4-15-10 Reds vs Marlins

[_Sir_Charles_]

Chris Dickerson cf
Orlando Cabrera ss
Joey Votto 1b
Brandon Phillips 2b
Scott Rolen 3b
Jay Bruce rf
Jonny Gomes lf
Ramon Hernandez c
Aaron Harang p


vs. RHP Josh Johnson (0-1 with a 6.30 ERA...15-5 with a 3.23 ERA last year)

According to Fay, Nix was going to start but was scratched due to the flu.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Central Updates:

Brewers beating Cubs 8-5 in the 9th. Suppan & Zambrano started
Houston beat the Cards for win #1. Norris & Loshe started and got the decisions
Pirates are off

[Tom Servo]

Bold prediction: The guy wearing the number 42 will score.

[LincolnparkRed]

Bold prediction: The guy wearing the number 42 will score.
He will also be driven in by #42

And another fearless prediction: #42 will strike someone out in this game

[oneupper]

Las Vegas predicting a Marlins win.
The line is +130 Reds -150 Florida.

[Will M]

Las Vegas predicting a Marlins win.
The line is +130 Reds -150 Florida.

i suspect this is about the usual line if 2 equal teams with equal starters play. the home team has a bit of an edge.

[HeatherC1212]

I like Joey being a stolen base threat this year. :D

[RBA]

The Game is on MLB Network alternate channel. I'm getting it on Directv Channel 214 (SD) and 214-1 (HD).

[Tom Servo]

Bruce with a hit. Good to see.

[Ghosts of 1990]

Bruce with a hit. Good to see.

He's been swinging the bat well this series, but really the only difference is he's finding holes finally every now and then. I would expect the power to come once he gets a little more confidence through sustained success.

[reds44]

5 strikeouts already.

[Tom Servo]

Josh Johnson's good.

[HeatherC1212]

Hey, I think there might be twenty Marlins fans at the game tonight. :p:

[Ghosts of 1990]

Hernandez went from an offensive catcher in baltimore to a guy who really doesn't offer much in any phase of the game.

[CTA513]

The only positive is that its taken Johnson 45 pitches to get through 2 innings.

[oneupper]

Wide strike zone tonight. The Ks will be piling up.

[Ghosts of 1990]

Doc Kremcheck sighting

[Tom Servo]

Whoa, suddenly my TV cuts to Ric Flair hyping nascar. I love the Nature Boy, but I'm trying to watch the Reds.

[reds44]

What on earth was Gomes doing there?

[Ghosts of 1990]

Uggla hammers Harang.... played beautifully by Gomes in left

[Ghosts of 1990]

I'll have to tell you guys sometime about the time I met Doc Kremcheck's brother in the diamond seats.... it was funny

[Ghosts of 1990]

2 down on the groundout to Cabrera. Come on aaron get out of this without any damage

[Tom Servo]

1-0 Fish.

[oneupper]

RFS62 is in the stands. See if someone can spot him.

[Chip R]

RFS62 is in the stands. See if someone can spot him.

Look for the floral shirt.

[Ghosts of 1990]

Harang tennis rackets out to third

[Ghosts of 1990]

base hit for Dickerson to RF

[Ghosts of 1990]

CDick steals 2nd base. Love it.

[Tom Servo]

O-Cab ties the game with a double.

[Ghosts of 1990]

Double by Orlando Cabrera on a bad ball.... he feels Janish nipping at his heels ;)

1-1 ballgame

[reds44]

OC has shown some surprising power this year.

1-1.

Reds are running on Johnson, making him work too.

[Ghosts of 1990]

Johnson seems to be throwing a fastball right down the middle first pitch every at bat.

[reds44]

Those were a couple of pitiful ABs by Votto and Phillips.

[mbgrayson]

Johnson at 59 pitches after throwing three innings....At that rate, he will be gone after 5 innings as long as the Reds don't get too hacktastic (like Phillips last inning)

[Tom Servo]

blergh. 2-1 Marlins.

[reds44]

Maybin can fly.

[CTA513]

Grand slam time

[Ghosts of 1990]

Harang simply not giving us much of a chance tonight. Becoming a common theme really.

[Tom Servo]

bloop single. 3-1.

[flyer85]

Gomes showed some wheels on that one

[CTA513]

This team really needs someone in LF who can hit and play some defense.

[mbgrayson]

Gomes showed some wheels on that one

And he deked the baserunners by acting like he was going to catch the ball. That saved one run, at least for now.

[Mario-Rijo]

This team really needs someone in LF who can hit and play some defense.

The guy at the plate perhaps? I imagine the Marlins would come off him.

NM

[Tom Servo]

Ross k's his bat right out of his hands.

[Mario-Rijo]

:confused:

:D

[Tom Servo]

Very hittable Harang tonight. 4-1 Fish.

[Mario-Rijo]

Boy this Maybin kid is something else to watch.

[Ghosts of 1990]

Harang, Bruce, Gomes, etc.

On a given night this group will make you turn off your television.

[jojo]

Has anyone ever given up 100 homers in a season? It sure seems like Harang is given up alot...

[flyer85]

awful pitch selection on Maybin. Where the hell was the slider he couldn't have hit with an ironing board

[mbgrayson]

After only 4 innings, Marlins up 4 to 1.

Josh Johnson has throw 73 pitches, 49 of which were strikes.
Aaron Harang has thrown 89 pitches, 53 of which were strikes.

[reds44]

Very hittable Harang tonight. 4-1 Fish.
That's just about every night.

[reds44]

I still think Stubbs should be in CF and Dickerson should be in LF and they should be hitting 1-2.

[jojo]

I still think Stubbs should be in CF and Dickerson should be in LF and they should be hitting 1-2.

Stubbs has back issues tonight doesn't he?

[reds44]

Stubbs has back issues tonight doesn't he?
Yes, but he's supposed to be back tomorrow.

[reds44]

So Votto looks at a pitch right down the middle for strike 3.

[CTA513]

This team whiffs a lot.

[Ghosts of 1990]

Getting Harang through five might be a tough act every 5th day.

[mbgrayson]

So Votto looks at a pitch right down the middle for strike 3.

Votto has now struck out 13 times already in 42 plate appearances. That is a 31% K rate.

In 2009, Votto's K rate was 22.6%, and in 2008 it was 19.4%.

[flyer85]

anyone else notice that Hernandez rarely drops and blocks the ball in the dirt

[Ghosts of 1990]

We cut Cantu.

[reds44]

Harang is bad.

[Tom Servo]

That's just about every night.
I'm kinda beginning to think you hate everyone on this team.

[redsfaninbsg]

I can't believe I'm saying this but I think Harang is done.

[reds44]

I'm kinda beginning to think you hate everyone on this team.
Not everybody. Just the bad players.

[CTA513]

I can't believe I'm saying this but I think Harang is done.

He won't improve until he starts pitching to the whole plate instead of just the outside corner.

[Ghosts of 1990]

you guys have a great night. Back to .500 we go.

[Mario-Rijo]

I can't believe I'm saying this but I think Harang is done.

He simply is too predictable, you can't live on the outer half of the plate all of the time.

[alloverjr]

We knew the offense would be bad but it looks like the rotation is very overrated.

[reds44]

We knew the offense would be bad but it looks like the rotation is very overrated.
Eh, too early to say that, but Harang is well on his way to another 15 loss season.

[redsfaninbsg]

If this continues for much longer the Reds may not have much choice other than to put Owings in the rotation.

[CTA513]

Eh, too early to say that, but Harang is well on his way to another 15 loss season.


The Reds have 1 starting pitcher they can count on.

[jojo]

He simply is too predictable, you can't live on the outer half of the plate all of the time.

He's being killed by poor location though... He'll make some great pitches then he'll serve one up...

[reds44]

The Reds have 1 starting pitcher they can count on.
That's what happens when you have three guys in your starting rotation 24 and under.

[reds44]

He's being killed by poor location though... He'll make some great pitches then he'll serve one up...
Yeah. His main problem is he's throwing too many pitches right down the middle.

[Tony Cloninger]

He is the RH version of Tom Browning....but at least Tom would back someone off the plate.

[Tom Servo]

Micah Owings is still PISSED about getting plunked last year and tries to take it out on Hanley Ramirez.

[jojo]

Micah Owings is still PISSED about getting plunked last year and tries to take it out on Hanley Ramirez.

It was mostly a mistake pitch.

[Tom Servo]

It was mostly a mistake pitch.
I think it was mostly blind rage. Owings's bloodlust knows no bounds.

[jojo]

I think it was mostly blind rage. Owings's bloodlust knows no bounds.

Thank goodness it's not a full moon....

[Tony Cloninger]

At least someone knows that throwing inside is not a bad thing

[jojo]

Did anyone see the mysterious fireball last night?

[KronoRed]

Did anyone see the mysterious fireball last night?

Usually the aliens don't announce themselves like that.

[jojo]

Usually the aliens don't announce themselves like that.

a Raisor family reunion in the works? Seriously, if you can actually travel at the speed of light through deep space, maybe 50+ noble prizes isn't as impressive as it seems....

[oneupper]

That's what happens when you have three guys in your starting rotation 24 and under.

Yep. But those guys can get better. Harang is on the wrong side of the hill.

[HeatherC1212]

I think the Reds guys are exhausted from the previous two games and need a change of location to get their mojo back. I'm glad they'll at least split this series with the Marlins. It's still way early in the year to make snap judgments about the team as a whole and I'm giving them at least a month before I start worrying about anything. Thank goodness Pittsburgh is this weekend where the guys should get at least two wins out of the series.

Have fun being negative downers. Even me, one of the optimists of this board, can't handle too much of that tonight. :eek: :(

[reds44]

Yep. But those guys can get better. Harang is on the wrong side of the hill.
For sure.

[CTA513]

Owings pitch count has climbed pretty fast.

44 pitches in just 1.1 innings of work.

[WVRedsFan]

I think the Reds guys are exhausted from the previous two games and need a change of location to get their mojo back. I'm glad they'll at least split this series with the Marlins. It's still way early in the year to make snap judgments about the team as a whole and I'm giving them at least a month before I start worrying about anything. Thank goodness Pittsburgh is this weekend where the guys should get at least two wins out of the series.

Have fun being negative downers. Even me, one of the optimists of this board, can't handle too much of that tonight. :eek: :(Everyone must have gone to bed. I just got in. Just noticed the NL West Champs are 3-5, so it could be worse. We've played the very excellent Cardinals, the Cubs and a good Marlin team and will be 5-5. Two years ago, this team would be 3-7. Small steps.

[durl]

I just browsed the Reds and Marlins lineups. The Marlins have 2 hitters below .300 but everyone is above .290. The Reds aren't anywhere near that level. They really are stinking at the plate.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Everyone must have gone to bed. I just got in. Just noticed the NL West Champs are 3-5, so it could be worse. We've played the very excellent Cardinals, the Cubs and a good Marlin team and will be 5-5. Two years ago, this team would be 3-7. Small steps.

A four game split with a solid Marlins team on the road...AND our pitching was very sub-par. I'll take the split and walk away happy. Our hitting & pitching will improve.

btw...for those interested, it's 9-1 Marlins in the bottom of the 8th. Masset taking over for Ondrusek (who pitched well). More good news...Chris Dickerson is 2 for 3 with 2 sb's.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

14 K's tonight. This is certainly frustrating. Votto and Bruce are not having fun at the plate.

[_Sir_Charles_]

It's just that kind of night. Masset k's the first batter he faces...but it's a wild pitch and he's safe at first. :O) Oh well, I'm out. Gotta get up super early tomorrow. We'll get 'em next time.

[WVRedsFan]

I just browsed the Reds and Marlins lineups. The Marlins have 2 hitters below .300 but everyone is above .290. The Reds aren't anywhere near that level. They really are stinking at the plate.Just a thought. This organization has spent the last three years rounding up pitching and defense and for the most part have been successful. They've ignored offensive production. Thinking Jay Bruce was the next Ken Griffey Jr and it was OK to not have an offensive minded centerfielder and leftfielder, no real MLB hitters have been acquired outside of Scott Rolen, so this is what you get. If the pitching holds up, they've got a chance in any game they play. If it doesn't, it's pretty much lights out.

[WVRedsFan]

Heading to the top of the 9th chance, it's 10-1 bad guys. I don't think it's in the cards to win tonight (Duh).

[BCubb2003]

At least the Reds didn't get beaten by the Astros today.

[WVRedsFan]

The Reds must have a favorite barber in Miami. I don't know what to call the new doos that Hernandez and Gomes got.

[Will M]

Hats off to BCubb2003 & WVRedsFan, 2 truly dedicated fans. everyone else called the 'mercy rule' that allows us to turn the game off when the team has a 1% less chance or less to win. you guys are true diehards!

[reds1869]

At least the Reds didn't get beaten by the Astros today.

So true. Someone had to lose to them first and I'm glad it wasn't the Reds.

[mbgrayson]

Ninth inning:
Bruce grounds out to third.
Gomes triples (!)
Hernandez grounds to short, Gomes scores.
Hanigan grounds out to third.

Final Score, Marlins 10, Reds 2.

[Spring~Fields]

Florida 10, Cincinnati 2

Scoring Summary
Bot 2nd: Florida
- G. Sanchez doubled to deep left, D. Uggla scored

Top 3rd: Cincinnati
- O. Cabrera doubled to left, C. Dickerson scored

Bot 3rd: Florida
- J. Baker doubled to shallow left, C. Maybin scored
- D. Uggla singled to left, J. Baker scored, H. Ramirez to third, J. Cantu to second

Bot 4th: Florida
- C. Maybin homered to deep left

Bot 5th: Florida
- J. Cantu doubled to deep right center, H. Ramirez scored
- C. Ross doubled to right center, J. Cantu and D. Uggla scored
- J. Baker singled to shallow right, C. Ross scored, J. Johnson to third, C. Maybin to second

Bot 6th: Florida
- C. Ross doubled to left, J. Cantu scored

Bot 8th: Florida
- D. Uggla hit sacrifice fly to deep center, B. Barden scored

Top 9th: Cincinnati
- R. Hernandez grounded out to shortstop, J. Gomes scored



Cincinnati
IP H R ER BB K HR
A. Harang 4.0 10 8 8 2 4 1
M. Owings 2.0 2 1 1 3 3 0
L. Ondrusek 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0
N. Masset 1.0 2 1 1 0 1 0

[reds1869]

Ninth inning:
Bruce grounds out to third.
Gomes triples (!)
Hernandez grounds to short, Gomes scores.
Hanigan grounds out to third.

Final Score, Marlins 10, Reds 2.

We may not see that too many more times. But my favorite moment of the game was the single Ramon got on the ball he hit to the wall. Man, that dude is slooooooooooooow.

[Ron Madden]

I just browsed the Reds and Marlins lineups. The Marlins have 2 hitters below .300 but everyone is above .290. The Reds aren't anywhere near that level. They really are stinking at the plate.

WOW!

Who'd of thunk it?

[HeatherC1212]

At least the Reds didn't get beaten by the Astros today.

Quoted for truth. THAT is something I was truly afraid of happening later this month! I never want the Reds to be any team's first win of the year after several weeks, LOL :eek:

Props to anyone who made it through the game last night. I'm going out of town this weekend so I thought it would be better for me to pack and get ready for that trip than to watch my team get pummeled in last night's game. Time to kick some behind in Pittsburgh! :beerme: