View Full Version : Jay Bruce last 9 games
Batting average: .273
OBP: .342
Slugging: .545
Looks like what most of us thought he should have been hitting once some of the bad luck went away. Good to see.
The Operator
04-23-2010, 12:22 AM
I saw this same line earlier in the day somewhere else, and couldn't help but think of it tonight in the car when Bruce made an out and Marty proclaimed "And things just aren't getting ANY better for Jay Bruce."
Really Marty?
Rockermann
04-23-2010, 09:09 AM
If the team has any hope, he has to hit. It's a good sign to see the tide appears to be turning in his favor.
PhillipsHead
04-23-2010, 03:02 PM
I think a hot streak is in order for the kid. Once he gives his confidence back, the sky's the limit. I think he'll be just fine...
MrMcConnell
04-23-2010, 05:03 PM
Batting average: .273
OBP: .342
Slugging: .545
Looks like what most of us thought he should have been hitting once some of the bad luck went away. Good to see.
How can one be unlucky when he's batting below .240 with over 800+ at bats?
The Operator
04-25-2010, 03:04 AM
Barry Bonds only hit .223 in his first 500 atbats. He only hit .261 the year after that.
MrMcConnell
04-25-2010, 02:55 PM
Barry Bonds only hit .223 in his first 500 atbats. He only hit .261 the year after that.
That's a fine comparison. But I hardly doubt Pirates fans were saying he hit .223 because he was "unlucky."
Vottomatic
04-25-2010, 03:39 PM
3 for 4 today.
That's a fine comparison. But I hardly doubt Pirates fans were saying he hit .223 because he was "unlucky."
Yea they also didnt have the stats we have now either.
The Operator
04-25-2010, 05:29 PM
That's a fine comparison. But I hardly doubt Pirates fans were saying he hit .223 because he was "unlucky."
Maybe not but I bet there were plenty of inpatient, overzealous Pirate fans calling for him to be benched, sent down, etc. just like there are Reds fans about Bruce. Plus, as another poster mentioned, BABIP wasn't exactly a huge stat in Bonds' rookie year.
Meanwhile, Bruce had a great day at the plate today. Maybe the people saying he was unlucky were onto something after all.
Bruce since the 1st 6 games
.283/.358/.587
.945 OPS
TC81190
04-25-2010, 06:36 PM
Bruce since the 1st 6 games
.283/.358/.587
.945 OPS
I haven't seen many games this year outside of the opening series and the Florida one, but I wonder if he has changed his approach a little since the last time I watched him hit. Seemed like the Bruce I was watching this year was having some issues with selectivity and was swinging at a lot of bad pitches. It sounds like he is driving the ball now, so maybe he picked up on something and has found his pitches to hit now.
Sounds like maybe Votto has had a little bit of this problem the past game or two as well.
I haven't seen many games this year outside of the opening series and the Florida one, but I wonder if he has changed his approach a little since the last time I watched him hit. Seemed like the Bruce I was watching this year was having some issues with selectivity and was swinging at a lot of bad pitches. It sounds like he is driving the ball now, so maybe he picked up on something and has found his pitches to hit now.
Sounds like maybe Votto has had a little bit of this problem the past game or two as well.
Or its as simple as the line drives werent finding the leather.
TC81190
04-25-2010, 06:42 PM
Or its as simple as the line drives werent finding the leather.
Maybe so. I know his line drive rate wasn't really jiving with his BABIP and the number of hits he had. All the same, it was a problem he was having, and he was putting himself in a hole swinging at low breaking pitches and other "pitcher's pitches" that he should have laid off on.
texasdave
04-25-2010, 09:12 PM
In his last 13 games the Jay Bruce line now reads: .261/.340/.522/.862.
corwinator3407
04-26-2010, 01:12 PM
Hope to see this hitting continue on the road by him. If the team hits like the last road trip again, they will need Bruce's streak to continue.
gedred69
04-26-2010, 07:43 PM
Watch his swing. When he shortens the swing he makes better contact, and misses less. He has to consistently resist the same temptation that turned Adam Dunn into what he became. A big swatter with a lousy batting average. Just hit the ball, HRs will come.
The Operator
04-26-2010, 08:11 PM
What Adam Dunn "became" was a guy with .901 career OPS who has driven in 100 runs 5 of the past 6 years.
I'd take that guy in the middle of the Reds lineup again in a heartbeat. Meanwhile, we get Phillips - a guy who wishes he was a big swatter but is looking more and more like Willie Mays Hayes every day.
Jays last 15 games
.283/.371/.547
OPS of .918
combined with gold glove amazing D in right a stat line like that might garner him some MVP votes.
PhillipsHead
04-29-2010, 01:03 PM
Jays last 15 games
.283/.371/.547
OPS of .918
combined with gold glove amazing D in right a stat line like that might garner him some MVP votes.
MVP? Come on dude. unless Bruce hits .300/40/120, AND the Reds win 90+, then we'll talk MVP.
MVP? Come on dude. unless Bruce hits .300/40/120, AND the Reds win 90+, then we'll talk MVP.
"Might" is a key word. I dont expect it to happen but if he finishes the year with a line like that its very possible he gets a MVP vote.
MrMcConnell
04-29-2010, 05:46 PM
"Might" is a key word. I dont expect it to happen but if he finishes the year with a line like that its very possible he gets a MVP vote.
MVP's usually hit better than .167 w/ RISP.
A double and a homer should help his line tonight a little. :)
.378/.630 for an OPS of 1.008 doing some quick math.
If its wrong I blame it being late
ian_madden
04-30-2010, 12:39 AM
What Adam Dunn "became" was a guy with .901 career OPS who has driven in 100 runs 5 of the past 6 years.
I'd take that guy in the middle of the Reds lineup again in a heartbeat. Meanwhile, we get Phillips - a guy who wishes he was a big swatter but is looking more and more like Willie Mays Hayes every day.
:rolleyes:
Correction since April 11th Bruce is hitting
.298/.379/.614
OPS of .993
Beastly numbers.
After todays game Bruce OPS since the 6th game of the year is higher than 1.000.
Roush's socks
05-02-2010, 01:58 AM
From what I've seen he is more relaxed and doing a better job of laying off bad pitches. He also is hitting more line drives and less pop ups.
Vottomatic
05-02-2010, 08:35 AM
What Adam Dunn "became" was a guy with .901 career OPS who has driven in 100 runs 5 of the past 6 years.
I'd take that guy in the middle of the Reds lineup again in a heartbeat. Meanwhile, we get Phillips - a guy who wishes he was a big swatter but is looking more and more like Willie Mays Hayes every day.
Last I checked, Rolen was our cleanup hitter.
BP has started hitting now that he's in the 2 hole. And he's swinging less and less for the fences. So is the whole team.
The Operator
05-02-2010, 11:49 PM
Last I checked, Rolen was our cleanup hitter.
BP has started hitting now that he's in the 2 hole. And he's swinging less and less for the fences. So is the whole team.
At the time of my post, Phillips was the cleanup hitter. And he was all of last year.
I want to see an entire year of Brandon Phillips taking a decent approach to the plate before I let him off the hook for his hack-tastic ways.
The Operator
05-02-2010, 11:49 PM
:rolleyes:Solid rebuttal. Touche.
Jay Bruce BABIP for the season is up to .295.
OPS up to .858 for the season.
Over Jay Bruce last 87 PA spanning 22 games and 21 starts Jay has a slash line of .289/.368/.566. His BABIP for this period of time is .333.
I wish I knew how to find his line drive rates over this time but I dont. His BABIP could be simply normal because he smokes the ball or it could be a little high. Either way a .934 OPS is more than adequate from a RF with the defensive ability of Jay Bruce.
Jay Bruce last 27 games (26 starts)
.309/.400/.564
OPS of .964
.373 BABIP during that span (.317 for the year)
23% LD percentage for the year (32nd in baseball)
Bruce should be an all star this year unless he falls off the face of the world soon.
1990REDS
05-12-2010, 04:32 PM
Jay Bruce last 27 games (26 starts)
.309/.400/.564
OPS of .964
.373 BABIP during that span (.317 for the year)
23% LD percentage for the year (32nd in baseball)
Bruce should be an all star this year unless he falls off the face of the world soon.
Great job of finding stats! What site do you use to get info like that?
Griffey012
05-12-2010, 05:36 PM
Great job of finding stats! What site do you use to get info like that?
fangraphs.com is a great place to find all kinds of stats. They have quite a few advanced statistics.
davereds24
05-12-2010, 06:01 PM
Jay Bruce last 27 games (26 starts)
.309/.400/.564
OPS of .964
.373 BABIP during that span (.317 for the year)
23% LD percentage for the year (32nd in baseball)
Bruce should be an all star this year unless he falls off the face of the world soon.
all star? please tell me you are joking.
all star? please tell me you are joking.
You dont think a continuation of his hitting since the 7th game of the year combined with his D isnt all star worthy? If he continues hitting at this rate he will be certainly all star worthy.
Then again him getting to the game is another issue.
lidspinner
05-12-2010, 06:57 PM
fangraphs.com is a great place to find all kinds of stats. They have quite a few advanced statistics.
fangraphs has a great iphone app if you have the iphone....its all stored date too if I remember correctly, therefore you dont need internet to look up stats.
33 games
.319/.418/.531/.949
Kid is STILL going berserk.
his LD rate for the year is 26%
mivers176
05-20-2010, 10:10 AM
You dont think a continuation of his hitting since the 7th game of the year combined with his D isnt all star worthy? If he continues hitting at this rate he will be certainly all star worthy.
Then again him getting to the game is another issue.
Wow, seriously? All Star? .270-ish ba with little power, 4 hr and not a lot of run production batting in the #5-6 spot ( <20 rbi)? give me a break. i want to see Bruce do good but too often when he gets chances to drive in runs, espeically like last night in crucial situations in the 8th and 9th - we got two k's out of him.
He's definitely improving and doing better than last year but he is far from an all star at this point.
I think it comes down to you would rather hate him because he didnt hit 1.000 instead of seeing that hes hitting over .300, getting on base over .400, and slugging over .500 from the 7th game on this year. Even more impressive is that hes doing it with out hitting home runs right now. His production is not a problem. He had a bad game with runners on base holy cow lets ignore 33 games worth of data because I just want to find a reason to blast a dude.
an ISO of over .200 is good. Consider that he isnt getting as many homers as some might expect the iso over .200 is actually really good.
From the April 12th game to May 24th
.304/.410/.489/.899
LD rate is at a very very good 24.6%
Whats amazing is that Bruce Home Run to Fly Ball ratio has dropped to 10%.
Is it possible that hes squaring the ball up so well that the balls just arent getting the lift they used to? Instead of the balls getting up in the air after he slightly missed them they are banging off the walls instead of going over them? I think its pretty possible considering the LD rate, and that his FB% hasnt really changed.
The Voice of IH
05-25-2010, 03:19 PM
The guy is absolutely tearing it up...and good for him, he went though alot last season, I hope that he is able to continue.
1990REDS
05-25-2010, 04:03 PM
From the April 12th game to May 24th
.304/.410/.489/.899
LD rate is at a very very good 24.6%
Whats amazing is that Bruce Home Run to Fly Ball ratio has dropped to 10%.
Is it possible that hes squaring the ball up so well that the balls just arent getting the lift they used to? Instead of the balls getting up in the air after he slightly missed them they are banging off the walls instead of going over them? I think its pretty possible considering the LD rate, and that his FB% hasnt really changed.
Love that stat line!!!:thumbup:
The only thing wrong with that line is that he isnt hitting many homers right now. A .900 OPS with his D is amazing especially if his OBP is over .400. If he gets his slugging up .100 or so more points like his power in the past really suggest he should be able to easily do imagine him at a 1.000 OPS including that D. If the homers start to show back up this kid is going to be great.
.308/.412/.510
Can anyone really complain about this line? Its really crazy to think about how much a bad start can screw with your seasonal stat line. Instead of people talking about how hes been hitting at a .300/.400/.500 pace for 90% of his PA this year people see a .100 point lower OPS. 20 PA has taken him from possible all star to "having a good year for a 23 year old"
Vottomatic
05-28-2010, 08:37 AM
The kid is learning quickly on the job. I was doubtful, but gotta give him props now.
.309/.411/.546/.957
180 PA. Hes probably the best player on the Reds, and easily our best outfielder since Juniors 1st year in Cincy.
1990REDS
05-30-2010, 10:56 AM
The only thing wrong with that line is that he isnt hitting many homers right now. A .900 OPS with his D is amazing especially if his OBP is over .400. If he gets his slugging up .100 or so more points like his power in the past really suggest he should be able to easily do imagine him at a 1.000 OPS including that D. If the homers start to show back up this kid is going to be great.
got 2 bombs for us last night. very nice:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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