5/18/10- Brewers @ Reds/ Heisey bats 5th (Votto & Rolen FTW!)

[Redsfan320]

Check it:

Cabrera 6
Phillips 4
Votto 3
Gomes 7
Heisey 8
Bruce 9
Hanigan 2
Janish 5
Bailey 1

vs. LHP Manny Parra

I'm not sure what to think. It's certainly interesting for an off-day lineup (a day where some players get a day off, not the team)

Also, it's our 1st day game in 1st place.

Keep in mind it's radio only. Start time 12:35

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[flyer85]

I thought Janish was dead.

"Not hardly"

[edabbs44]

Interesting that Stubbs would get the breather vs the lefty and not Bruce.

[cumberlandreds]

This is Parra's first start of the season. he will either have a great game or get run off the mound early. I'm hoping for the latter.

[kbrake]

I didn't even realize it was a 1235 game. Man, I would have been annoyed with myself when I sat down at 7 tonight expecting a game.

[cumberlandreds]

I didn't even realize it was a 1235 game. Man, I would have been annoyed with myself when I sat down at 7 tonight expecting a game.

No TV either today. Just saw the Live version of this new app in action. Looks pretty cool. :thumbup:

[Redsfan320]

Heisey bats 5th- MAYBE NOT

That lineup was from Sheldon and was then posted by Fay.

But Jamie Ramsey's lineups are actually pictures of the lineups posted in the clubhouse. The picture today has Heisey leading off and OCab 5th, switching them.

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[redsmetz]

Heisey bats 5th- MAYBE NOT

That lineup was from Sheldon and was then posted by Fay.

But Jamie Ramsey's lineups are actually pictures of the lineups posted in the clubhouse. The picture today has Heisey leading off and OCab 5th, switching them.

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The Reds tweeted this: UPDATED 5-18 Reds lineup Heisey CF Phillips 2B Votto 1B Gomes LF Cabrera SS Bruce RF Hanigan C Janish 3B Homer Bailey P

[medford]

Interesting that Stubbs would get the breather vs the lefty and not Bruce.

W/ another day game after a night game on Thursday, I'm guessing we're going to see some more "resting of starters" this week. I wouldn't mind seeing Janish get the nod at SS tomorrow to give Ocab a day off and allow Janish a chance at back to back games and maybe get in some consitant at bats over a couple of days. Perhaps you could say the same regarding Bruce/Heisey.

[Chip R]

I thought Janish was dead.

"Not hardly"


Just mostly dead.

[fugowitribe]

I always look at competition as a way to get guys to perform their best. I like the idea of reminding stubbs that he still has to play well in order to start everyday in CF. Not saying that he has played bad as of late, but letting a young guy who is fully capable of playing through a wierd schedule (like we have today) sit back and watch someone play the spot he has "locked up" is always a good thing.

[TRF]

Just mostly dead.

which means a little bit alive. With all dead there is only one thing you can do.

[HotCorner]

The Reds tweeted this: UPDATED 5-18 Reds lineup Heisey CF Phillips 2B Votto 1B Gomes LF Cabrera SS Bruce RF Hanigan C Janish 3B Homer Bailey P

This makes more sense. :thumbup:

[Chip R]

which means a little bit alive. With all dead there is only one thing you can do.


What's that?

[11larkin11]

Eh, I would have liked the first lineup. Let O-Cabs continue to thrive up top. Don't mess with whats working.

[Degenerate39]

Is the game on the Brewers FSN?

[LincolnparkRed]

Is the game on the Brewers FSN?

MLB.com says yes. I am heading to a bar at lunch hoping they are right

[TRF]

I'm going to say it right now. Jinx or not, Bailey K's 10. That's a free swinging club, day game after a night game, and Bailey has something to prove: that the last game wasn't a fluke.

[cumberlandreds]

Heisey is leading off and Cabrera 5th. I don't think I would have changed things but maybe it will work out.

[Redsfan320]

We are go

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[Degenerate39]

Weeks grounds out to Phillips. Phillips throws him out at 1st. One out

[membengal]

Is the game on the Brewers FSN?

Yes. Watching it now, thanks to being out of Reds market here in Baltimore, not blacked out.

[Degenerate39]

Escobar grounds one to Phillips also and Phillips throws him out at first. Two outs

[membengal]

Brewers announcers on their TV side lamenting how well the Reds starting staff as a whole has been pounding the strike zone of late.

[TheNext44]

Just mostly dead.

Janish: "I feel fine. I'm getting better"

Dusty: "Don't be such a baby"

Monty Python Bring Out Your Dead (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4423433463769698725#)

[Degenerate39]

Braun homers to left center. 1-0 Brewers

[cumberlandreds]

Braun goes yard.

[TRF]

I hate Ryan Braun.

[Chip R]

Stupid Lloyd Braun.

[membengal]

That was pounded in its own right.

[HeatherC1212]

Not the best start but at least it was only a solo shot.

[TRF]

bad Homer, bad!

*trf kicks himself for cursing Homer earlier...

[Caveat Emperor]

So, apparently Bad Homer Bailey on the mound today.

[Degenerate39]

Fielder doubles to left :(

[Degenerate39]

McGehee singles Fielder in. 2-0 Brews

[TRF]

Homer sure has thrown a lot of pitches this inning...

[cumberlandreds]

The bullpen may get their work in today. Bailey not looking so good.

[cumberlandreds]

Homer sure has thrown a lot of pitches this inning...

Up to 26 pitches so far.

[Chip R]

Price needs to go out and talk to Homer.

[Caveat Emperor]

The bullpen may get their work in today. Bailey not looking so good.

He doesn't have an off-speed pitch he can throw for a strike.

[membengal]

He's not locating his fastball, getting behind, and then keeps getting beat on his breaking stuff. That was a hanging slider that McGehee hit to drive in Fielder.

[Degenerate39]

Hart flys out to Bruce. 3 outs finally

[LincolnparkRed]

Price needs to go out and talk to Homer.

I think at this point he needs to work through this kind of day. Can't always baby him

[cumberlandreds]

30 pitches total in first inning.

[Chip R]

Let's hope the Brewers pitcher pitches below Par(ra) today.

[membengal]

He doesn't have an off-speed pitch he can throw for a strike.

He actually is throwing it for strikes, its that they are getting pounded today. He really needs to locate his fastball primarily, and go slow with the off-speed stuff.

Hopefully he's a bit warmer now.

Only 2-0. Hold it around here, and hope the offense doesn't go into snooze mode against Parra and Brewers bullpen.

[LincolnparkRed]

He doesn't have an off-speed pitch he can throw for a strike.

what happened to the splitter that Lehr taught him? don't think he threw it in the first inning?

[TheNext44]

Homer looked fine until he had to face a real hitter like Braun. That homer spooked him, plus he faced two more really good hitters.

[TheNext44]

Sometimes it's more about the other guys than it is you.

[Degenerate39]

Heisey works a 9 pitch walk.

[cumberlandreds]

Heisey with a nice AB and the walk.

[membengal]

Parra's pitch count high this year is 49 in one three inning stint. The Brewers TV announcers think the most he will be asked to go is 4 or 5 innings.

9 pitches to Heisey to start the game.

[nate]

Chat is open!

[cumberlandreds]

Parra's pitch count high this year is 49 in one three inning stint. The Brewers TV announcers think the most he will be asked to go is 4 or 5 innings.
9 pitches to Heisey to start the game.

The Reds just need to hang close in this one. The Brewers bullpen is bad and they should be able to light them up.

[Degenerate39]

BP strikes out. 1 out

[Degenerate39]

Votto strikes out. 2 outs

[TheNext44]

Gomes is on fire... Gomes is on fire...

[cumberlandreds]

Gomes stays hot! Double to drive in Heisey!

[Degenerate39]

Gomes smokes one to left field. Gomes gets a double and advances to 3rd while Heisey scores.

2-1 Brewers

[nate]

Let's GOMES!

[redsmetz]

Marty & Jeff commenting on Heisey's wheels.

[Degenerate39]

O.Cab grounds out to shortstop. 3 outs

[cumberlandreds]

25 pitches for Parra. At this rate neither pitcher will make the 5th.

[Degenerate39]

I think Bailey will turn it around now

[Degenerate39]

Gerut strikes out. 1 out

[TheNext44]

I think Bailey will turn it around now

The key will be when he faces 3-4-5 again.

[Degenerate39]

Kottaras grounds one to Phillips and Phillips throws him out at first. 2 gone

[membengal]

Bailey locating his fastball much better this inning.

[Degenerate39]

Parra grounds one to shortstop and is thrown out at first. 3 outs.

[cumberlandreds]

Bailey just 14 pitches that inning. Now up to 44 total.

[Degenerate39]

Bruce flys out to left. 1 out

[Degenerate39]

Hanigan flys out to center. 2 outs

[Degenerate39]

Janish walks

[cumberlandreds]

A good AB by Janish. Works a walk and gets Bailey out of the way for the third.

[Degenerate39]

Bailey grounds one to 2nd. 3 outs

[cumberlandreds]

42 pitches by Parra through two.

[Degenerate39]

Weeks is hit by a pitch apparently.

[Degenerate39]

Weeks thrown out trying to steal 2nd. 1 out

[Degenerate39]

Escobar strikes out. 2 gone

[redsmetz]

Escobar strikes out. 2 gone

Just like that, says Jeff Brantley.

[Degenerate39]

Braun grounds out to Phillips. 3 outs.

[Tommyjohn25]

Handled him that time. Gotta give him credit now, he looks to be settling down.

[medford]

Sauce on the side, says Jeff Brantley.

FTFY

[cumberlandreds]

52 pitches by Homer through three.

[Degenerate39]

Heisey flys out to center. 1 out

[medford]

Seriously though, what are most people's opinions on Brantly, outside of the multiple food references and general corniness? Seems like he offers up pretty good insight into the mechanics of the game, ie telling us the Cueto is pulling off towards 1st and that is when his fastball gets high and flat a couple of starts ago, and telling us when its better. He mentioned something about something he saw wrong w/ a particular batter the other day, perhaps Votto.

I'm not savy enough to know how accurate these observations are, but rather than just saying that a player is struggling, he's often able to point to a specific issue w/ the player at the time that is different than his normal self.

[Degenerate39]

Phillips grounds out. 2 outs

[edabbs44]

Seriously though, what are most people's opinions on Brantly, outside of the multiple food references and general corniness? Seems like he offers up pretty good insight into the mechanics of the game, ie telling us the Cueto is pulling off towards 1st and that is when his fastball gets high and flat a couple of starts ago, and telling us when its better. He mentioned something about something he saw wrong w/ a particular batter the other day, perhaps Votto.

I'm not savy enough to know how accurate these observations are, but rather than just saying that a player is struggling, he's often able to point to a specific issue w/ the player at the time that is different than his normal self.

He nailed Gomes' HR last night before it happened...thought it was solid analysis.

[Degenerate39]

Votto singles to center

[medford]

single to right for Gommes, Votto at 3rd

[yab1112]

Seriously though, what are most people's opinions on Brantly, outside of the multiple food references and general corniness? Seems like he offers up pretty good insight into the mechanics of the game, ie telling us the Cueto is pulling off towards 1st and that is when his fastball gets high and flat a couple of starts ago, and telling us when its better. He mentioned something about something he saw wrong w/ a particular batter the other day, perhaps Votto.

I'm not savy enough to know how accurate these observations are, but rather than just saying that a player is struggling, he's often able to point to a specific issue w/ the player at the time that is different than his normal self.

Pretty much agree with everything you said. His pbp isn't always great, but his analysis and insight usually is. My favorite thing to hear though, is when he makes some generalization that sounds good but isn't really true, then Marty calls him out on it. :D

[Degenerate39]

I don't know what Gomes was doing on that one. Gomes singles to right as Hart missed the ball as he dived for it. Gomes on first and Votto on third. Gomes was almost out as he was going back to first.

[fugowitribe]

We need one of those clutch seeing eye singles by OCab right here.

[edabbs44]

Up to the inning Gomes OPS watch: .872.

[Degenerate39]

O.Cab grounds out to 3rd. 3 out

[cumberlandreds]

Parra at 61 pitches. Brantley said he was on a 70 to 80 pitch count. So maybe one more inning from him.

[Degenerate39]

Fielder walks. Get the oxygen tank ready at first.

[Ron Madden]

In my opinion of all the Reds radio broadcasters Brantley is at the bottom of the totem pole.

[Degenerate39]

McGehee pops up to right and Phillips gets to it. 1 out

[Degenerate39]

Hart K's. 2 gone

[Chip R]

Pretty much agree with everything you said. His pbp isn't always great, but his analysis and insight usually is. My favorite thing to hear though, is when he makes some generalization that sounds good but isn't really true, then Marty calls him out on it. :D


I think he does the analysis thing better on TV than radio for the most part. He's awful at play by play. I was in my car on Sunday and there was a fly ball that Bruce and Stubbs went after and almost collided and Brantley didn't say whether it was an out or not. That used to drive me crazy with Joe too so I'm not just picking on Brantley.

[Degenerate39]

Gerut grounds it to BP who gets the force out at 2nd. 3 outs

[cumberlandreds]

76 pitches for Homer. At this rate maybe two more innings for him.

[yab1112]

I think he does the analysis thing better on TV than radio for the most part. He's awful at play by play. I was in my car on Sunday and there was a fly ball that Bruce and Stubbs went after and almost collided and Brantley didn't say whether it was an out or not. That used to drive me crazy with Joe too so I'm not just picking on Brantley.

I never get to watch the game on tv so I'll take your word for it, but that would make sense.

I remember a call by Joe in one of his last years calling games, "And there's a base hit to left-right-center field!"

[Degenerate39]

Bruce gets a board with a single

[KoryMac5]

Bruce gets a board with a single

Quick trade him for Cliff Lee :p:

[Degenerate39]

Quick trade him for Cliff Lee :p:

And print off the playoff tickets

[GoReds]

MLB Gameday has it that Parra is down 4-5 mph on his fastball this inning.

[Degenerate39]

Bruce steals 2nd.

[medford]

Bruce plays robin hood, and steals 2nd

[Caveat Emperor]

With a slow runner like Hanigan up, a stolen base is worth a little bit more than usual because it takes the DP off the table.

[Degenerate39]

Hanigan walks

[cumberlandreds]

Basically a sacrifice by Janish.

[Degenerate39]

Janish hits a dribbler to the pitcher. Runners advance and Janish out at 1st.

2nd and 3rd with 1 out.

[Caveat Emperor]

Might we be looking at a squeeze situation here?

[fugowitribe]

I would think long and hard about turning this over to a healthy bullpen right now. Homer only has an inning left anyway.

[KoryMac5]

Don't trust Bailey to get down the squeeze here. Hopefully he can make contact to the right side of the IF.

[fugowitribe]

Anyone know if the infield is in right here?

[Degenerate39]

Bailey k's. 2 outs

[fugowitribe]

Nevermind.

[cumberlandreds]

It's up to heisey to drive 'em in.

[KoryMac5]

I like Heisey here. Still think he should be getting more starts in CF.

[Ron Madden]

Heisey has been hitting the ball pretty good of late.

[fugowitribe]

Watching the MLB Gameday thing, and it keeps talking of all these balls in the dirt by Parra. Is he really struggling?

[Degenerate39]

Heisey walks again. Bases loaded for Brandon

[cumberlandreds]

Parra has to be out of gas.

[KoryMac5]

Phillips needs to be patient here.

[medford]

Parra to remain in vs Phillips. Sounds like a solid play by the 3b on the 1st pitch to throwout Phillips.

[TRF]

Phillips needs to be patient here.

so much for that idea.

[Degenerate39]

Watching the MLB Gameday thing, and it keeps talking of all these balls in the dirt by Parra. Is he really struggling?

Yes sir I think all the balls he threw in Heisey at bat were in the dirt.

McGehee just made a great play to rob Phillips of probably a double

[Ron Madden]

I hate it when Brandon swings at the first pitch after a walk.

[cumberlandreds]

Can't blame Phillips on that one. Sounded like it took a great play by McGeeHee to him out.

[KoryMac5]

Good play by the Brewers, Homer killed us that inning with the weak K. Kid has to make contact.

[Degenerate39]

Kattaras bounces one to BP. 1 out

[fugowitribe]

Good play by the Brewers, Homer killed us that inning with the weak K. Kid has to make contact.

He is at 77 Through Four innings, It appears that he only has one more left the way he is throwing. It would have been a great spot to let Rolen PH and get Owings some much needed work.

[cumberlandreds]

Parra's day is done. Stern PHing for him.

[VR]

He is at 77 Through Four innings, It appears that he only has one more left the way he is throwing. It would have been a great spot to let Rolen PH and get Owings some much needed work.

Couldn't disagree more. Unless he's injured or getting shelled, the starter needs to bat for himself in the bottom of the 4th.

[KoryMac5]

He is at 77 Through Four innings, It appears that he only has one more left the way he is throwing. It would have been a great spot to let Rolen PH and get Owings some much needed work.

I don't think that thought would have crossed Dusty's mind. He's old school.

[Degenerate39]

Stern pinch hitting for Parra. And pops up to O.Cab. 2 gone

[membengal]

I am watching the game, and parra was absolutely gassed. Phillips swung at a pitch at his ankles, unfortunately. McGehee did make a nice play, but I would have liked to see Phillips wait for a ball to drive.

[Degenerate39]

Weeks K's. 3 outs

[membengal]

And there is no way that Baker should have pinch hit for Bailey in the 4th. That would have been insane.

[TRF]

Good inning for Homer. Seems to be settling in. If he has an easy 6th, I'd let him start the 7th.

[VR]

Next inning is an early season litmus test for Homer. Should be his last inning...he faces 2/3/4 in the order.
If he gets through that....he should be done for the day.

[KoryMac5]

Homer has been pretty stout since the first inning. Nice to see him putting in some efficient innings.

[fugowitribe]

Couldn't disagree more. Unless he's injured or getting shelled, the starter needs to bat for himself in the bottom of the 4th.

The more I think about it, the more I don't know that I agree with myself. I was really in the moment of trying to score the tying run with one out and runners at 2nd and 3rd......Just mindless rable of a possible strategy. Would have been nice to see a risk though.

[VR]

what's his pitch count?

[Degenerate39]

Estrada making his MLB Debut

[CTA513]

what's his pitch count?

87 pitches

[Degenerate39]

Votto lines out to 1st base on the first pitch

[Degenerate39]

Gomes K's

[Degenerate39]

O.Cab flys out to center. 3 outs.

[membengal]

junk balling righty they have never seen. That's not a good combination for the Reds on many occasions in the past

[cumberlandreds]

junk balling righty they have never seen. That's not a good combination for the Reds on many occasions in the past

Marty and Brantley says he has a weird delivery too. Anyone verify that?

[Degenerate39]

Escobar popped out to 3rd and then Braun grounded out to 3rd. 2 outs

[medford]

popout, ground out to 3rd, 2 down. No hit ball (1 hit batter, 1 walk) since the 2 runs given up in the first.

[membengal]

Marty and Brantley says he has a weird delivery too. Anyone verify that?

Yup. It's odd.

[Degenerate39]

Fielder grounds out to short. 3 outs.

Is that Baileys last inning of work?

[TRF]

6 IP, 96 pitches. I let him start the 7th.

[cumberlandreds]

96 pitches for Bailey. Maybe one more inning?

[membengal]

Homer Bailey has been really, really, really good today.

[medford]

G.O. to SS, 94 pitches I think. Homer due up 4th, if he doesn't bat this inning, I think I'd let him pitch the 7th on a short lease, let him build up some more confidence.

err... 96 pitches based upon comments above, but I still let him pitch the next inning unless he comes to the plate w/ runners on base, so how about back to back homers :)

[membengal]

I think Homer's staying or being done depends entirely on who is on base when his spot is due up this inning.

[MikeS21]

He's throwing 94-95 mph? At least let him start the inning.

[Degenerate39]

Bruce grounds out to Prince. 1 out

[membengal]

Bailey is not tired. It will depend on whether they need to pinch hit for him.

I am more concerned about this guy they have never seen with the Chris Reitsma change....

[Degenerate39]

Hanigan pops up in foul territory. 3rd baseman gets it. 2 gone

[membengal]

ugly offense right now.

[Degenerate39]

Janish pops up to the centerfielder. 3 outs

[membengal]

hate how many runners they stranded against parra.

[fugowitribe]

Does Drew Stubbs Leadoff Next Inning as a PHer?

[Degenerate39]

McGehee doubles to left

[Degenerate39]

Hart flys out to Bruce. McGehee stays put lol. 1 out

[TheNext44]

Nice throw by Bruce. He will win Gold Gloves someday

[Degenerate39]

Gerut grounds out to first and the runner advances to 3rd. 2 outs.

[Degenerate39]

They intentionally walk Kattaras

[TheNext44]

Estrada doing such a good job, Macha sends him out to hit

[Degenerate39]

Estrada batting

[TheNext44]

Says a lot about what Macha thinks of the rest of his bullpen.

[Degenerate39]

Estrada grounds out to O.Cab.

I'm assuming we see Stubbs bat here in the bottom of the 7th?

[membengal]

what a fine outing for Homer. Against a really good offensive team. Need to score some runs now to pick him up.

[TRF]

Good day for Homer. He pitches like this every 5th day, and I'll certainly be happy. :)

[cumberlandreds]

A great outing by Bailey after a slow start. Let's reward him with at least two runs this inning.

[CTA513]

Another good outing by Bailey.
7 Innings, 2 ER, 11 ground outs and only 2 walks (1 was intentional).

[cumberlandreds]

110 pitches by Homer. 71 strikes and 39 balls.

[Chip R]

Nix to pinch hit

[Degenerate39]

Nix pinch hitting

[TRF]

Nix is still alive?

[Degenerate39]

Nix k's. 1 out

[TRF]

Nix is still alive?

guess not. :)

[reds44]

Nix needs to go away.

[pedro]

Nix is still alive?

I think he's toast when/if Dickerson comes back. I don't think they'll send Heisey back down.

[TheNext44]

Nix is still alive?

technically only, judging from that AB

[membengal]

this guy is pitching like vintage reitsma. nasty change down to 78 has them all flailing, and then they can't time the 92 mph straight fastball

[Degenerate39]

Heisey k's. 2 outs

[Raisor]

I think he's toast when/if Dickerson comes back. I don't think they'll send Heisey back down.

Heisey needs to be playing every day. IMO

[membengal]

yeah, they are completely messed up. 93 mph right down the middle and heisey just looked at it. this is ugly at the moment.

[cumberlandreds]

Estrada must be thinking what's the big deal about the major leagues. This is easy.

[Degenerate39]

BP flys out to Hart in right. 3 outs.

2-1 Brewers after 7

[pedro]

Heisey needs to be playing every day. IMO

In center or left?

[HeatherC1212]

Macha probably wishes he could pitch that guy for the rest of the game, LOL :laugh:

Nice outing for Homer today. The guys gotta get him a win today. :)

[TRF]

Too bad the Reds couldn't tack on a run there, or pushed more than one of the 8 baserunners Parra allowed across. But Homer still from all accounts pitched a heckuva game.

[Degenerate39]

Macha probably wishes he could pitch that guy for the rest of the game, LOL :laugh:

Nice outing for Homer today. The guys gotta get him a win today. :)

Or at the least tie it up so he won't be charged with the lose. He's pitched well enough today and kept the team in it all day. Just had one bad inning is all.

[membengal]

TRF: I am watching it on the Milwaukee feed, and Homer was absolutely nails.

[Homer Bailey]

Lincoln vs. Braun should be hilarious.

[cumberlandreds]

Macha probably wishes he could pitch that guy for the rest of the game, LOL :laugh:



He may keep him in. The Brewers bullpen has been horrid this year. This guy has to be a breathe of fresh air to Macha.

[Degenerate39]

Weeks grounds out to short. 1 out

[membengal]

I can only hope the Reds have loaded their how-to-hit-a-changeup program in the Matrix for the 8th.

[TRF]

TRF: I am watching it on the Milwaukee feed, and Homer was absolutely nails.

Good to know. a 1-2 of Cueto/Bailey could be great for years.

[Degenerate39]

Good to know. a 1-2 of Cueto/Bailey could be great for years.

Don't forget Leake!

Escobar beats out an infield single.

[TRF]

Don't forget Leake!

Escobar beats out an infield single.

too soon. But depth is fun!

[Degenerate39]

too soon. But depth is fun!

How about Volquez then?

[membengal]

Good to know. a 1-2 of Cueto/Bailey could be great for years.

He got looser after the first, like a lot of power pitchers. He spotted his fastball much better from the second inning on. They got no good swings at him after the three hits in the first, frankly. One hit only in the second through seventh for Bailey. It was dominant.

Sick to my stomach, actually, that they did not get him some runs.

[edabbs44]

In center or left?

Probably CF if Alonso is still at AAA.

[TRF]

How about Volquez then?

Usually takes a year to get control back. usually. Liriano has been filthy this year, but struggled last year. Maybe Volquez will do better.

[membengal]

too soon. But depth is fun!

TRF, I don't think it's too soon. I think Leake is special.

[Degenerate39]

BRaun walks

[TRF]

TRF, I don't think it's too soon. I think Leake is special.

Maybe I'm just a tad jaded, having not seen solid pitching since '99. but it is just 7 career starts. I'm cautious.

[TRF]

Lincoln slowly turning back into... Mike Lincoln.

[VR]

looks like all the pitches to Braun just missed?

[Degenerate39]

Oh boy Danny Ray pitching

[pedro]

Probably CF if Alonso is still at AAA.

I'm not ready to give up on Stubbs and don't think Alonso is ready yet.

I'd like to see Heisey get more AB's and be given chance to stick in LF though.

Pretty good outing by Bailey BTW.

[membengal]

Lincoln slowly turning back into... Mike Lincoln.

meh, he got a groundball that should have been an out to SS from escobar, and then was rightfully careful with braun.

[Raisor]

In center or left?

If Dusty is only going to just use him occasionally off the bench, he needs to be in AAA starting everyday.

[membengal]

Maybe I'm just a tad jaded, having not seen solid pitching since '99. but it is just 7 career starts. I'm cautious.

He was even better his second pass against the Cubs, and sure didn't shrink from a big moment last Saturday in front of a sold out crowd in what felt like a must-win against Wainwright. That was pretty nails from the kid. I really do think he's got a little something that is happily wonderful in his make-up.

[Degenerate39]

Thank God that was foul

[NJReds]

Oh boy Danny Ray pitching

Against Prince? Would this be the largest weight disparity between batter and pitcher in baseball history? ;)

[pedro]

If Dusty is only going to just use him occasionally off the bench, he needs to be in AAA starting everyday.

I don't know, he's already 25.

[Degenerate39]

PEACE! Oops thought this was the chat. Prince K's. 2 outs

[Hoosier Red]

Against Prince? Would this be the largest weight disparity between batter and pitcher in baseball history? ;)

At least since Sid Fernandez pitched to Jose Uribe.(If that ever happened. I think it did.)

[membengal]

DRH velocitized Fielder.

Glad Dusty kicked some of the rust of DRH's tires last night.

[Degenerate39]

Against Prince? Would this be the largest weight disparity between batter and pitcher in baseball history? ;)

I'd say Danny Ray is about 140 and Prince has to be pushing 300. You may be right

[TRF]

DRH K's the Prince.

DRH is a man/boy beast!

[Degenerate39]

McGehee strikes again. Singles to right and a run scores.

3-1 Brews

[RedsManRick]

Gameday shows that hit coming on a pitch that was at the knees and just out of the zone. That's a good location; hard to fault DRH for that.

[membengal]

Yeah, he reached out and poked it to right.

This may not be Cincy's day. Have not gotten their many runners home, and Milwaukee has cashed in their few chances.

[CTA513]

Lincoln to Herrera and now to Fisher.

[Kc61]

I think the league may be figuring out Danny Ray. He started the year great but hasn't been as good more recently. He had a long layoff but he didn't pitch well last night and that hit was costly.

[pedro]

Gameday shows that hit coming on a pitch that was out of the zone. Hard to fault DRH for that.

It was a good pitch, low and about a foot outside and Mcgee pool queued it down the 1B line.

[Degenerate39]

More than likely we can say good bye to first place today.

[VR]

Fisher in...I think the Reds are seeing the downside to all those darn complete games. Rusty relievers.

[Degenerate39]

McGehee steals 2nd

[flyer85]

dusty was a little late on the trigger

[RedsManRick]

I think the league may be figuring out Danny Ray. He started the year great but hasn't been as good more recently. He had a long layoff but he didn't pitch well last night and that hit was costly.

Maybe, maybe not. But I don't see how a strikeout of Fielder and a poke past the 1B on a ball out of the zone is any indication either way.

The "cost" of the single shouldn't matter in assessing the performance of the pitcher.

[membengal]

Fisher in...I think the Reds are seeing the downside to all those darn complete games. Rusty relievers.

Really, don't see it.

This inning was a grounder to SS that should have been an out, but Escobar beat the throw. Lincoln was careful with Braun as he should have been. DRH ruined Fielder, and then McGehee hits a ball outside and at the shins to RF. Sometimes the breaks don't go your way.

Bigger problem this game was all the runners the Reds stranded in the first through fourth innings.

[flyer85]

Herrera did his job, he got the LHB out.

[membengal]

wild pitch, but the brewers tv crew criticizing hanigan for his poor blocking attempt. It's a fair criticism frankly.

[edabbs44]

ugh

[Degenerate39]

Wild pitch. Braun scores.

4-1 Brewers.

Then they get Hart to K. 3 outs

[CTA513]

4-1 Brewers after a wild pitch scores another run.