5/22/10 Reds @ Indians--The Greatest Rivalry in Sports Part Deuce

[reds44]

Cabrera SS
Phillips 2B
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Bruce RF
Gomes DH
Nix LF
Hernandez C
Stubbs CF

Cueto on the mound

[reds44]

Cardinals are down 8-2.

[Degenerate39]

Cardinals are down 8-2.

Top of the 7th same score now

[Degenerate39]

Still no Heisey?

[Degenerate39]

Top of the 7th same score now

8-3 bottom of the 7th

[reds44]

1st and 3rd too.

Get Kazmir out.

[reds44]

Wow and LaRussa lets the pitcher hit for himself?

[HeatherC1212]

Dusty knows he has a great weapon the bench in Heisey. He'll bring him out when he needs to spark something in the Reds. That's my theory anyway, LOL :p:

I guess bad Kyle showed up for the Cards today. Hehehehe :lol:

[reds44]

And Kazmir has gone 3-2 on the pitcher.

[reds44]

Strikes him out swinging. Imagine if Dusty did that.

[Degenerate39]

Strikes him out swinging. Imagine if Dusty did that.

The game thread would implode

[_Sir_Charles_]

Still no Heisey?

3 starts since his callup on April 30th

Janish...3 starts at short since April 5th (and 3 at third)

The difference...Heisey's getting ph opportunities and late inning defensive replacement opportunities. At this point, I think we need to send Janish to Louisville or look to trade him. It's become quite clear that Dusty is NOT going to play him.

[Degenerate39]

3 starts since his callup on April 30th

Janish...3 starts at short since April 5th (and 3 at third)

The difference...Heisey's getting ph opportunities and late inning defensive replacement opportunities. At this point, I think we need to send Janish to Louisville or look to trade him. It's become quite clear that Dusty is NOT going to play him.

O.Cab has had a really hot bat lately but I would like to see Janish more as a defensive replacement.

[reds44]

3 starts since his callup on April 30th

Janish...3 starts at short since April 5th (and 3 at third)

The difference...Heisey's getting ph opportunities and late inning defensive replacement opportunities. At this point, I think we need to send Janish to Louisville or look to trade him. It's become quite clear that Dusty is NOT going to play him.
Who should he play over? Janish deserves to take no time away from Rolen, Cabrera, or Phillips. Should he play over Cairo, yes, but that would have given him only another couple starts.

Paul Janish is never going to be an everyday player. Might as well get him used to his role now.

[_Sir_Charles_]

O.Cab has had a really hot bat lately but I would like to see Janish more as a defensive replacement.

I'm all for riding the hot bat. I just don't understand keeping a guy on the roster and refusing to use him at all. We're playing basically 2 men short compared to the opposition. Janish & Cairo. Despite all the wrath he got, I was glad to see Cairo get that recent start. Not because I like him, but if he's on the roster he SHOULD get a start every once in a while. Of course I'd rather he NOT be on the roster.

Same holds for Owings & Fisher on the pitching side of things. If you're not going to use them, get someone Dusty WILL use.

[reds44]

10-3 Halos.

[reds44]

I'm all for riding the hot bat. I just don't understand keeping a guy on the roster and refusing to use him at all. We're playing basically 2 men short compared to the opposition. Janish & Cairo. Despite all the wrath he got, I was glad to see Cairo get that recent start. Not because I like him, but if he's on the roster he SHOULD get a start every once in a while. Of course I'd rather he NOT be on the roster.
Why would you play bad players over good players? It doesn't make any sense.

Play the best players.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Who should he play over? Janish deserves to take no time away from Rolen, Cabrera, or Phillips. Should he play over Cairo, yes, but that would have given him only another couple starts.

Paul Janish is never going to be an everyday player. Might as well get him used to his role now.

I'm not saying he should start over anyone. But the occasional start, the occasional ph chance, the regular defensive replacement shot. It's the refusal to put him in for 7th, 8th & 9th inning defensive purposes that just boggles my mind.

[HeatherC1212]

Yay Halos!!! :D

[Raisor]

O.Cab has had a really hot bat lately

last 7 days .321/.345/.429/.773
last 14 days .286/.314/.367/.681

When a .773 OPS is a "really hot bat" you know you're talking about a weak bat.

[alloverjr]

Stubbs CF



Enough already. I know he's hitting 9th but give someone else a shot at the gig.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Why would you play bad players over good players? It doesn't make any sense.

Play the best players.

I think you're misunderstanding me. I WANT the best players to play. But if Dusty's not going to use Janish...then he's leaving our bench short a player. If you're not going to use him, send him down and bring up someone who WILL get some use...as a pinch hitter or another reliever or something.

And you can't tell me that Rolen & OCab don't both need the occasional day off at their ages. 1 start a week for OCab at short. 1 start a week for Rolen at third for Cairo or whoever. The collapse game vs Atlanta is the one that stunned me. With that big lead we had early on...why not get Ocab some needed rest? Why not bring in the better glove to protect that big lead? Just sayin'.

[reds44]

I think you're misunderstanding me. I WANT the best players to play. But if Dusty's not going to use Janish...then he's leaving our bench short a player. If you're not going to use him, send him down and bring up someone who WILL get some use...as a pinch hitter or another reliever or something.

And you can't tell me that Rolen & OCab don't both need the occasional day off at their ages. 1 start a week for OCab at short. 1 start a week for Rolen at third for Cairo or whoever. The collapse game vs Atlanta is the one that stunned me. With that big lead we had early on...why not get Ocab some needed rest? Why not bring in the better glove to protect that big lead? Just sayin'.
Who like Cairo who booted a double play ball in the 9th, who was playing that day for Rolen?

It works both ways.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Who like Cairo who booted a double play ball in the 9th, who was playing that day for Rolen?

It works both ways.

Not sure I follow you here. Are you saying Janish booted a DP ball when playing for Rolen?

[reds44]

Not sure I follow you here. Are you saying Janish booted a DP ball when playing for Rolen?
No.

Cairo booted a DP ball in the 9th, while playing for Rolen.

[pedro]

last 7 days .321/.345/.429/.773
last 14 days .286/.314/.367/.681

When a .773 OPS is a "really hot bat" you know you're talking about a weak bat.

Considering that he's a SS and the alternative is a guy with a lifetime .601 OPS it is what it is.

[_Sir_Charles_]

No.

Cairo booted a DP ball in the 9th, while playing for Rolen.

Yes, I know. Errors happen. But during that game thread, many were complaining why we didn't bring in Janish or Rolen as a defensive sub for Cairo. Well, my thinking on the matter is simple. Cairo got the start because Dusty wanted to give Cairo some playing time. He also wanted to give Rolen the day off. You don't yank Cairo for Rolen in that situation. Cairo was going to stay in there simply because it was his rare turn for a start. Ocab though...we'd already knocked in a bunch of runs early and he hasn't gotten a day off in quite some time (3 days off all season thus far). I thought it made sense to bring in Janish for Cabrera back in the 4th inning or so.

[reds44]

10-5 with runners on the corners and one out for the Cardinals.

[reds44]

Oh my god.

10-7, runner on 3rd, still one out.

Pujols on deck.

[reds44]

After falling behind Mather 3-0, Rodney gets him.

And luckily LaRussa took out Pujols, so Jon Jay is hitting.

LaRussa had some issues in this game.

[reds44]

Rodney strikes out Jay on 3 pitches.

Ballgame.

Reds can move into first with a win.

[HeatherC1212]

I see the Angels decided to make the end of the game a little too interesting. :eek:

[GAC]

I heard the reason the Reds game is not televised tonight is because Fox is carrying the Yanks-Mets game, and due to a contract stipulation Fox's other affiliates cannot televise any other games. Anyone know if there is any truth to this as to why the Reds aren't being televised on FSO?

[Hoosier Red]

That's pretty much it GAC. I don't know if it's an agreement between Fox and MLB, or between Fox and their affiliates. It used to be worse, there used to be a 6 hour block around the beginning of the Fox game of the week.

Does anyone know why Fox is starting the game at 7 tonight instead of 4?

[RedsMan3203]

That's pretty much it GAC. I don't know if it's an agreement between Fox and MLB, or between Fox and their affiliates. It used to be worse, there used to be a 6 hour block around the beginning of the Fox game of the week.

Does anyone know why Fox is starting the game at 7 tonight instead of 4?

Stupid Soccer game I believe....

[11larkin11]

OPS isn't all, guys. Cabrera gets hits, he gets clutch hits. Hes been a great spark at the top of the lineup.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I heard the reason the Reds game is not televised tonight is because Fox is carrying the Yanks-Mets game, and due to a contract stipulation Fox's other affiliates cannot televise any other games. Anyone know if there is any truth to this as to why the Reds aren't being televised on FSO?

Well, down here they're showing the Cubs & Rangers.

[GAC]

Well, down here they're showing the Cubs & Rangers.

Just checked up here (Dayton), and it's Red Sox-Phillies.

Friggin Arena FB is on FS-Cin and FSO states "to be announced". Ridiculous.

[RedsMan3203]

Columbus gets Mets/Yanks

FSO = TBA
FSO Cincinnati = Arena Football... When did Cleveland get a team?!?! When did the AFL come back?!?!

[Tony Cloninger]

OC has a decent OBP and some want to harp on an OPS that is less than .800 for a SS? Not everyone can have a Ramirez playing that post.

[GAC]

OC has a decent OBP and some want to harp on an OPS that is less than .800 for a SS? Not everyone can have a Ramirez playing that post.

A few years ago some were more then happy with Felipe at SS with an OPS around .740

And while Cabby is no Concepcion, but we're talking about OPS, Davey's career OPS was sub-.700 ;)

[GAC]

Wow! Relegated to listening to MLB audio. Unless I want to go and listen to the game in my car. For some reason - probably internal electrical wiring interference - I can't get WLW on a radio in my house. Bummer



CHAT IS OPEN! :beerme:

[Tony Cloninger]

Yeah but Davey never started to bat higher than 6th until the BRM became the Mini BRM after 1978.

I only see OBP when the leadoff hitter is concerned. IF Ricky Henderson's and Eddie Yost's were falling off trees...then by all means, grab one. Power is a plus for sure at 1-2 posts but doubles power will do.

[reds44]

This is gonna be like in the old days when I had mlb audio.

At least I have gameday to go with it.

[reds44]

Chris Rose and Kevin Millar are in the studio for FOX?

Yuck.

[RedsMan3203]

Lets get this going..... Come'on Reds!!

[reds44]

1 out double for BP

[_Sir_Charles_]

Brandon with a double that one-hops the wall.

[GAC]

BP hits his 14th Dbl of the year

[mbgrayson]

Cabrerra grounds out to third.
Phillips doubles off the wall.

[reds44]

RBI single for Votto, to second on the throw.

1-0.

[toledodan]

votto rbi 1-0 reds!

[GAC]

Votto singles to drive in BP.


1-0 Reds

[_Sir_Charles_]

Votto! He's a beast. 1-0 Redlegs!

Single and an error? Votto's on second regardless.

[mbgrayson]

Joey knocks him in, bad throw allows Votto to take 2nd.

Reds up 1-0

[Edd Roush]

That was fast. I like it.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Rolen pops out for the 2nd out. Up to Jay to bring in Joey.

[mbgrayson]

Rolen pops out to third, two down.

[reds44]

That a boy Jay!

2-0.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Jay! Votto scores. 2-0 Reds!

[GAC]

Bruce drives in Votto 2-0 Reds

[Tornon]

Killer J's!

[toledodan]

bruce rbi single 2-0

[mbgrayson]

Bruce delivers a hard single through the left side to knock Votto in, 2-0.

[RedsMan3203]

Here's Johnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnny!

[_Sir_Charles_]

I just don't understand this fascination with a shift for Bruce. He's shown he can spray the ball to the opposite field.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Gomes pops out to end the inning. But I'll take a 2-0 lead in the first. :O)

[RedsMan3203]

20 pitch, 2 run 1st inning for Carmona. I like it

[Brutus]

I just don't understand this fascination with a shift for Bruce. He's shown he can spray the ball to the opposite field.

You really should go to the MLB site and look at his spray charts the last two years. He actually absolutely does not spray the ball very much. Over 90% of the balls hit in or through the infield are on the right side. The balls he hits to left field are generally lazy flyballs.

[_Sir_Charles_]

You really should go to the MLB site and look at his spray charts the last two years. He actually absolutely does not spray the ball very much. Over 90% of the balls hit in or through the infield are on the right side. The balls he hits to left field are generally lazy flyballs.

I know he hasn't. But I'm saying he can. In fact he's best at the dish when he's doing that. Same for Phillips. Throwing the shift on just makes those hitters make a conscience effort to do just that. Not to mention the fact that Jay's perfectly capable of bunting too. That type of shift just begs for a bunt down the line.

[reds44]

See ya Mr. Crowe

[_Sir_Charles_]

K

[RedsMan3203]

Looks like Cueto is just throwing gas... 5 straight 95 MPH Heaters and gets Crowe to strike out on a 91 MPH Slider

[Homer Bailey]

K #2!

[_Sir_Charles_]

KK

Haven't seen Cueto hitting 96 much this year. Nice. Make that 97!

[Screwball]

Wow, Cueto means business tonight.

[reds44]

9 pitches, 7 strikes, 2 strikeouts.

[mbgrayson]

Choo Ks.

[Brutus]

I know he hasn't. But I'm saying he can. In fact he's best at the dish when he's doing that. Same for Phillips. Throwing the shift on just makes those hitters make a conscience effort to do just that. Not to mention the fact that Jay's perfectly capable of bunting too. That type of shift just begs for a bunt down the line.

Every major leaguer can. But when the percentages say you do something 90% of the time, why wouldn't you adjust your defense to accommodate that?

Just because someone can do something doesn't mean he's likely to. Paul Janish could hit a home run, but you wouldn't play your outfielders on the track expecting the possibility.

[RedsMan3203]

Cueto isn't fooling around... K's Choo on a 92 MPH Fastball, hit 96 twice in that AB.

[Screwball]

Cueto hit 97 (!) on the first pitch to Kearns.

[reds44]

Cueto is throwing gas. Last one to Kearns was 97.

[RedsManRick]

If Cueto can keep throwing 90 mph sliders in the zone, he's going to be awfully tough. I just hope he doesn't overthrow it trying to light up the gun and lose command. Kid can get a little excited.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Kearns with a double into the corner

[reds44]

Gameday had ball 2 as a strike.

[RedsMan3203]

Twins just blew a 4 run lead in the 9th to the Brewers..... Still 0 outs for the Brew Crew..

97 FB, 90 Slider, 97 FB, 96 FB, 91 Slider

AK doubles on a 90 MPH Slider

[RedsManRick]

Gameday had ball 2 as a strike.

It's gonna be a loong night if the ump isn't calling the bottom of the zone. Luckily JC will have more luck working up in the zone than Carmona.

[reds44]

It's gonna be a loong night if the ump isn't calling the bottom of the zone. Luckily JC will have more luck working up in the zone than Carmona.
Marty seemed to think it was a strike.

[Screwball]

nm

[reds44]

I think the first couple hitters made Cueto fall in love with the strikeout.

[RedsManRick]

Cueto at 20 pitches. Needs to stop trying to be so perfect.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Cueto at 20 pitches. Needs to stop trying to be so perfect.

Not sure about that. I think it was just a good job by the hitters fouling off stuff they couldn't square up on.

[RedsMan3203]

Brewers take the lead with a 5 run 9th inning, Fielder scores on an RBI Double from 1st! I thought he was gonna pass out by 3rd base.

Cueto has a 22 pitch 1 hit, 2K 1st inning

[reds44]

Brewers take the lead with a 5 run 9th inning, Fielder scores on an RBI Double from 1st! I thought he was gonna pass out by 3rd base.

Cueto has a 22 pitch 1 hit, 2K 1st inning
Reds aren't the only ones who blow games.

[HeatherC1212]

Stuck watching Cubs-Rangers on Fox (at least until the Lost pilot starts on ABC in about a half hour...gotta watch that to get ready for the finale tomorrow!) and I'm thankful for the PBP here tonight. No radio near my computer either. :(

Glad Jay and Joey are all ready hitting and scoring runs. :D

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nix grounded out sharply to 2nd.

[RedsMan3203]

Stuck watching Cubs-Rangers on Fox (at least until the Lost pilot starts on ABC in about a half hour...gotta watch that to get ready for the finale tomorrow!) and I'm thankful for the PBP here tonight. No radio near my computer either. :(

Glad Jay and Joey are all ready hitting and scoring runs. :D

Boycot FOX and MLB and don't watch the game.....

[_Sir_Charles_]

Pretty tight zone tonight.

[Screwball]

Gameday has ball 3 to Hernandez at the bottom edge of the zone. Looks like the ump ain't giving that call to either pitcher.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Ramon hits one up the middle, but Donald snags it and gets the slow-running Hernandez

[HeatherC1212]

I only have the game on until Lost starts then it's going off. It's noise in the background right now. It was kind of fun to listen to them talk earlier in this game about how much the Cubs have sucked lately, LOL :laugh:

[_Sir_Charles_]

Stubbs is still striking out too much, but I haven't seen him swinging at balls out of the zone as much. He seems to be laying off those out of the zone.

"I don't think you'll see Stubbs hit leadoff the rest of the year" ~ Marty

[_Sir_Charles_]

Stubbs out on a soft liner to Kearns

2-0 Reds after 1 1/2

[Screwball]

"I don't think you'll see Stubbs hit leadoff the rest of the year" ~ Marty

Brantley was saying Stubbs needs to make a couple adjustments to Major League pitching. If by "adjustments" he means "completely retooling his looping swing", then I agree.

[RedsMan3203]

Reds go 1-2-3

Carmona up to 38 pitches

Twins open up the bottom of the 9th with a double and single. 1st and 3rd no outs.

[Screwball]

Twins open up the bottom of the 9th with a double and single. 1st and 3rd no outs.

That Brewers bullpen is atrocious. Like mid-2000s-Reds atrocious.

[_Sir_Charles_]

K #3

[reds44]

Got him on a slider.

[RedsMan3203]

Got him on a slider.

At 92 MPH!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Johnny's got some NASTY stuff tonight.

Deep flyout to Bruce for out #2

[reds44]

Cueto looking good.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Man! Hitting 97 pretty regularly. What's gotten into Cueto?

Quick 1-2-3 on 9 pitches. Better. That +20 had me a bit worried in the first.

[reds44]

He looks like early rookie year Cueto right now.

[RedsMan3203]

Johnny's got some NASTY stuff tonight.

Deep flyout to Bruce for out #2

He was at 96 MPH on that pitch on the outside lower half of the plate...

Opens this AB up with an 97 FB

Cueto up to 31 pitches

D. Young ground rule double scores 1, 2nd and 3rd 1 out for the Twins.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Is Hoffman pitching?

[HeatherC1212]

Glad to hear Cueto is looking good so far! :D

[RedsMan3203]

Is Hoffman pitching?

Nope, IBB to Jim Thome to load the bases with 1 out.

[Buckeye33]

Is Hoffman pitching?

No, they are going with Villenueva again.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice snag by Peralta. OCab hit it hard. 1 down.

[Screwball]

Brantley now doing PBP.


:barf:

[Buckeye33]

Not sure if it's been mentioned in this thread yet but LeCure has a NO NO go going through 7 inning tonight. And he's only at 73 pitches.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Phillips K's swinging. 2 down

Way to jinx LeCure....I'm sure it's over for sure in a bit. :O) j/k GO SAM!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Votto with a single to right

[RedsMan3203]

Votto with a single to right

Joey being Joey...

[_Sir_Charles_]

"he's hittin' the snot outta the ball" ~ Brantley

[_Sir_Charles_]

Carmona nibbling with Rolen

3-0

[GAC]

Rolen INF pop-up to end inning

[_Sir_Charles_]

Rolen pops up to Donald. 2-0 Reds after 2 1/2

[RedsMan3203]

Span flies out to the wall, leaves the bases loaded for the Twins.

Going Extra - Span also raised his arms, and was slowly jogging up the line thinking it was out... If that was BP he would of gotten reemed.

Carmona up to 53 pitches...

[_Sir_Charles_]

Brewers got out of it. K & a pop out. Extras

[Screwball]

Rolen INF pop-up to end inning

On a 3-1 fastball right down the middle. Carmona was fortunate that one wasn't crushed.

[HeatherC1212]

I see Joey is helping out my fantasy team again tonight. :D

[_Sir_Charles_]

Grounder to Phillips. Redmond gone.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I see Joey is helping out my fantasy again tonight. :D

Fixed that for you Heather. :D

[_Sir_Charles_]

Bad hop to Phillips. IF single.....nope. Error called on Brandon.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Crowe grounds to Cueto. 2 down, but runner (Donald) advances to 2nd.

[Buckeye33]

And yes, I jinxed LeCure. 0-2 line drive single with 1 out in bottom of the 8th ends the NO NO.

My apologies to the LeCure family.

[guttle11]

Yep, Buckeye33 jinxed LeCure...single with 1 out in the 8th.

[HokieRed]

Didn't take long for the jinx to work on LeCure. Second guy up in the 8th got a single. 7 and a third no-hit.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Single to Nix....but he gets it quickly and holds Donald at third.

Bad Buckeye, BAD!

[Tony Cloninger]

I did not mind if Spann raised his arm....there was 2 outs and it's not like he needed it to be out...i just think he thought it would hit the wall at least.
Bases were loaded as well. It is when Phillips hits one with no one on and just stares at it and you actually need his run ....that drives you nuts.

[HeatherC1212]

Fixed that for you Heather. :D

Ohhh, someone is a little ornery tonight, LOL :lol:

[_Sir_Charles_]

hehe. Sorry. Been that kinda day.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Fly out to Stubbs by Kearns to get out of it. Remains 2-0 Redlegs after 3 full.

Cueto at 44, only 15 balls.

[RedsMan3203]

Cueto at 44 pitches through 3 IP.

Johnny been throwing nothing but Fastballs and Sliders, I've only seen 1 change up so far.

[Tony Cloninger]

I was wondering why everyone was talking about LOST being on in 30 minutes...the i realized Youz all are in the Midwest and I am on the West Coast and have to wait another 3 hours.

[Edd Roush]

I would love to see Jay hit a lead-off jack this next inning. See him bust out of a mini-slump and give Johnny another run.

[Screwball]

Cueto at 44 pitches through 3 IP.

Johnny been throwing nothing but Fastballs and Sliders, I've only seen 1 change up so far.

Saving it for the 3rd time through?

[Screwball]

I would love to see Jay hit a lead-off jack this next inning. See him bust out of a mini-slump and give Johnny another run.

Or a bunt. One of the two. :thumbup:

[Edd Roush]

Or a bunt. One of the two. :thumbup:

Haha, take what they give you I guess.

[HeatherC1212]

FYI: They're showing the Lost pilot with the pop up info thingee at the bottom of the screen. Pretty cool since they've never shown the premiere with that feature. :D

[reds44]

Oh those runnin' Redlegs.

[Buckeye33]

Haha, take what they give you I guess.

If a team is going to give that to you with 0 outs to lead off an inning in a 2-0 game you take it every time. Something Dunn or Griffey would have never done even if it was the bottom of the 9th and they were down by 1.

[RedsMan3203]

Bruce bunts his way on..... Thatta teach em..... Bruce then steals 2nd.... then takes 3rd on a throwing error....

Just like a lead off triple....

[reds44]

Oh Laynce.

4-0.

[Buckeye33]

FYI: They're showing the Lost pilot with the pop up info thingee at the bottom of the screen. Pretty cool since they've never shown the premiere with that feature. :D

Hey, it's Lost back when it was actually a good show to watch.

[RedsManRick]

Nix making a case of his own for some PT.

[Screwball]

Bruce bunts his way on..... Thatta teach em..... Bruce then steals 2nd.... then takes 3rd on a throwing error....

Just like a lead off triple....

Mike Redmond's first error in 256 games (an AL record for catchers). Funny thing is Brantley just mentioned it last inning. I guess Buckeye33 isn't the only one jinxing players...

[alloverjr]

Nix making a case of his own for some PT.

Was that a HR?

[Edd Roush]

Nix making a case of his own for some PT.

To say the least. I am almost wanting to consider a Gomes-Bruce-Nix outfield against the Pirates.

[reds44]

Was that a HR?
Yes.

[RedsMan3203]

To say the least. I am almost wanting to consider a Gomes-Bruce-Nix outfield against the Pirates.

Can Bruce play CF?

[_Sir_Charles_]

I'm out for pbp. gotta baby in my arms

[Tornon]

I know Nix can play CF

[BCubb2003]

Was that a HR?

Where are the little bouncing guys?

[reds44]

To say the least. I am almost wanting to consider a Gomes-Bruce-Nix outfield against the Pirates.
No. Don't sacrifice defense for offense right now, there's no need.

[HeatherC1212]

Are we now up 4-0?! :D :D

[RedsMan3203]

Stubbs.... Single :D

[alloverjr]

:jump:


Where are the little bouncing guys?

[RedsMan3203]

OCab grounds out.

Reds get 2 more on a 2-Run Johnson from Nix.

Carmona up to 69 pitches.

[Tony Cloninger]

I say you can platoon Nix and Heisey or Stubbs...in CF....since everyone says he can play CF? Which i just cannot see with his body type and speed. He looks like a big old lug out there.

[Edd Roush]

Can Bruce play CF?

I have absolutely no idea. I just think he would have at least adequate center field range and a plus center field arm. I understand the angles are different, but I really think Nix and Gomes both deserve PT and Bruce should be in there every day. I just don't see another way to get all three guys in the game at once.

I guess you can play Nix in center, but I don't know if he has the range Bruce does.

[reds44]

I say you can platoon Nix and Heisey or Stubbs...in CF....since everyone says he can play CF? Which i just cannot see with his body type and speed. He looks like a big old lug out there.
No. Both Nix and Gomes are going to cool off. Leave it as it is.

[HeatherC1212]

Bruce played CF for a while when he first came up (Jr. was still in RF) but I think he should stay in right field because he's better there.

[RedsMan3203]

I have absolutely no idea. I just think he would have at least adequate center field range and a plus center field arm. I understand the angles are different, but I really think Nix and Gomes both deserve PT and Bruce should be in there every day. I just don't see another way to get all three guys in the game at once.

I guess you can play Nix in center, but I don't know if he has the range Bruce does.

Right now, we have a CF that can cover everything with ease.... He plays plus D.

I don't think Nix/Bruce can do the same... Leave it be...

Twins load the bases Bottom 10, 2 hours.

[_Sir_Charles_]

3 up 3 down for Bruce...ummm...I mean Cueto. All outs to Jay. :O)

[mbgrayson]

Cueto thru 4 innings on only 51 pitches.

[Edd Roush]

No. Don't sacrifice defense for offense right now, there's no need.

I guess. But I would just hate to see Nix's bat on the bench when it is so hot right now. I definately wouldn't complain if Dusty keeps on running either Heisey or Stubbs in center, but it might be interesting to see an outfield of Gomes-Bruce-Nix out there. I guess that would be below average defensively, but with the way Nix is hitting right now, it would be good enough to off-set the defense offensively.

[RedsMan3203]

Cueto at 51 pitches, 3K's in 4 IP

Corey Hart robs Young with a great catch on the wall.

[reds44]

Cueto at 51 pitches, 3K's in 4 IP

Corey Hart robs Young with a great catch on the wall.
This is one of the best games I've watched in a long time.

[Screwball]

Cueto still pumping fastballs at 97. Beautiful.

[Tony Cloninger]

Great game in MIN... see ESPN...there are other teams that can play baseball.

The OF situation is looking a lot like 1999 to me. Which is a good thing.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Loshe numbness in his pitching hand. Penny already out. Ouchie!

[Screwball]

Sounds like Lohse will be following Penny onto the DL with numbness.

[reds44]

Cueto has thrown 29 pitches the last 3 innings.

That'll work.

[Buckeye33]

LeCure throws a CG 1 hitter.

[RedsMan3203]

This is one of the best games I've watched in a long time.

Just glad we have a decent game on TV to watch other then the FOX game.

[_Sir_Charles_]

LeCure throws a CG 1 hitter.

Nice

[RedsMan3203]

BP gets on with an fielding error on Peralta.

[reds44]

Just glad we have a decent game on TV to watch other then the FOX game.
FOX has to be hating this. Only reason I'm watching this game is because it's the only game on other than FOX.

[RedsMan3203]

Phillips steals 2nd.....

[reds44]

Oh those runnin redlegs again...

[RedsMan3203]

FOX has to be hating this. Only reason I'm watching this game is because it's the only game on other than FOX.

IF the Reds game was already over, I MIGHT watch the Fox game... But that would depend on what else is on.

Votto grounds out to 3rd, BP to 3rd.

[Tony Cloninger]

I hope FOX feels stupid.....and ESPN can follow as well. To me.... Colin Cowherd makes me hate ESON even more than possible. Talk about a shrill for big markets and front running. Can I pay Jose Canseco to turn him into an accordion?

[wheels]

Waitaminnute!

Is the game on TV or not?

[Screwball]

I hope FOX feels stupid.....and ESPN can follow as well. To me.... Colin Cowherd makes me hate ESON even more than possible. Talk about a shrill for big markets and front running. Can I pay Jose Canseco to turn him into an accordion?

I'll chip in.

And atta boy Rolen. Turn this thing into a laugher boys.

[RedsMan3203]

Waitaminnute!

Is the game on TV or not?

Nope

[_Sir_Charles_]

Waitaminnute!

Is the game on TV or not?

No, it's not. They're talking about the twins brewers game on ESPN

[reds44]

Deep, deep, deep sac fly.

5-0.

[HeatherC1212]

Can someone update the score randomly for folks like me who are only following here? Thanks a bunch! :D

[RedsMan3203]

Deep, deep, deep sac fly.

5-0.

What he said....

[_Sir_Charles_]

Can someone update the score randomly for folks like me who are only following here? Thanks a bunch! :D

Just put the baby to bed. I'm back for pbp.

Rolen just hit a sac fly to make it 5-0 to score phillips.

[wheels]

Okay.

I feel stupid now.

I can't keep up with you youngin's and alla yer fast talkin'.

[Tony Cloninger]

What's the matter Heather? Are you Lost?

[Edd Roush]

Haha, looks like Bruce tried the bunt again... he has to get those fair. It is an automatic hit every time.

[WVRedsFan]

Feel like a deaf blind man as far as the game goes. No TV, No radio--only RZ.

Of course, it always happens when the Reds are on a roll...

[mbgrayson]

Bruce walks.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Carmona nearing 90 pitches already. Walk to Bruce. On all 3 times.

[reds44]

What's the matter Heather? Are you Lost?
http://captionsearch.com/pix/2rub7eoeem.jpg

[RedsMan3203]

Here's Johnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnny!

[HeatherC1212]

Thank you! :D

The Losties just saw the Smoke Monster for the first time. I love watching the pilot right before the finale tomorrow. :)

Tony-Oh you're so funny, LOL :lol:

[reds44]

Put Bruce back in the leadoff spot.

Just kidding.

[Edd Roush]

Hit here puts Johnny back over .300

[WVRedsFan]

Score?

[reds44]

Score?
5-0 Redlegs

[WVRedsFan]

5-0 Redlegs

Thanks 44. You guys keep up the good work.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Gomes K's looking to end the inning, but we play a bit of addon. 5-0 Redlegs after 4 1/2

[RedsMan3203]

Morneau is playing some hell of D down at 1st.

Deep Sac Fly by Rolen to get BP in from 3rd.

Reds 5-0 bottom 5.

Carmona at 91 pitches

[_Sir_Charles_]

Central Updates:

Cards lost 10-7 to the Angels
Brewers & Twinkies tied 7 all in the 11th
Braves & Pirates just underway
Rays 2 Astros 1 (5th)
Cubs 3 Rangers 3 (5th)

[HeatherC1212]

Island - 1, Losties - 0 after 1/2 hour

:lol:

[_Sir_Charles_]

3 hit shutout for Cueto so far. Just over 50 pitches

[Tony Cloninger]

That Lost thing never gets old does it?

When someone wrote Johnnnyyy...i thought he homered! I hate no TV!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Grounder to Ocab...knocked it down to throw Redmond out.

[WVRedsFan]

That Lost thing never gets old does it?

When someone wrote Johnnnyyy...i thought he homered! I hate no TV!

Me too. I hate no radio and no TV. You'd think you could get some information at a MEDIA center at a race track, but...

[reds44]

60 pitches thru 5 for Mr. Cueto.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Quick 1-2-3 for Cueto again. Nice. He's been on fire lately. 9 pitch inning.

[RedsMan3203]

Cueto 5 IP, 60 pitches 3 K's - FB still inbetweet 94-96.

[_Sir_Charles_]

21 innings of 1 run baseball now from Cueto. Wowsers.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nix...7 for his last 11

[wheels]

Cueto is on a serious roll.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nix K's swinging

[_Sir_Charles_]

Razor grounds out to 2nd. Fausto at 100

[_Sir_Charles_]

Chin music to Stubby

[_Sir_Charles_]

Stubbs takes the free pass. BB

[_Sir_Charles_]

Stubbs swipes 2nd on the first pitch. #10...easily.

[reds44]

The Reds never have an excuse to stop running after the other night.

[RedsMan3203]

Lets get a key base hit OCab... Come'on!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Liner to center by Cabrera to end the inning.

5-0 Reds middle of 6

[toledodan]

Liner to center by Cabrera to end the inning.



he keeps hitting the ball hard.

[RedsMan3203]

Carmona's night should be close to being done.... 107 pitches through 6. 7 hits, 5rs (3 ER) 2 BB and 4 K's

[_Sir_Charles_]

hmmm...not close on first 3 by Cueto....make that 4. leadoff walk. First walk of the game by Cueto.

[_Sir_Charles_]

KKKK

nice bounce back after the walk.

[_Sir_Charles_]

That was only Cueto's 2nd walk in THREE starts. Mercy!

[Tony Cloninger]

Cueto has gone from extremely high pitch counts to Greg Maddux territory.

Wish they could send 1 reliever down and get another hitter. I know as soon as you do that though...it backfires on you before you know it.

[_Sir_Charles_]

KKKKK

[_Sir_Charles_]

Cueto has gone from extremely high pitch counts to Greg Maddux territory.

Wish they could send 1 reliever down and get another hitter. I know as soon as you do that though...it backfires on you before you know it.

They could add a hitter by sending Cairo or Janish down. They're not being used anyway.

[_Sir_Charles_]

2 waaaaaay outside

[Topcat]

They could add a hitter by sending Cairo or Janish down. They're not being used anyway.

amen to that!

[Screwball]

Cueto being pitch efficient is big tonight. Rhodes and Masset are unavailable.

[Tony Cloninger]

Cairo should go down. Cairo and Janish are like Joel Youngblood on the 1976 Reds. An afterthought.