View Full Version : New Jersey to host 2014 Super Bowl
Chip R
05-25-2010, 04:35 PM
This could be interesting.
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5219486 (http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5219486)
Hey just another ticket no one who cares can afford.
westofyou
05-25-2010, 04:41 PM
I went to the Ice Bowl game, I'll never go to another winter football game in a northern state.
RedsBaron
05-25-2010, 05:18 PM
Some of football's most memorable games have been played in bad weather. Since I won't be attending the Super Bowl anyway, it's fine with me if the game is played in New Jersey. This probably will open up the possibility of other northern cities getting a Super Bowl.
Puffy
05-25-2010, 05:20 PM
Go Giants.
RichRed
05-25-2010, 05:52 PM
Of course, that'll be the year for a Chargers-Bucs Super Bowl.
joshnky
05-25-2010, 05:58 PM
Some of football's most memorable games have been played in bad weather.
Some of the most awful games have also been played in bad weather. A 7-6 super bowl in a blizzard won't be any fun.
KronoRed
05-25-2010, 06:14 PM
Some of the most awful games have also been played in bad weather. A 7-6 super bowl in a blizzard won't be any funny.
Depend, I can see it being quite funny
"Is he in the end zone? we can't see!"
:D
Eric_the_Red
05-25-2010, 10:31 PM
ESPN showed that over the last 5-6 years, only in 2010 was there any snow in the area, and that was 0.7". Most of the time the temps were highs in the upper 40's and lows in the low 30's, with slight/chance of rain.
guttle11
05-25-2010, 10:43 PM
I get the sense that the media cares far more about the location of the Super Bowl than the players, fans, and sponsors. The players will play. It's a party, and the fans and corporate folks will find places to party.
reds1869
05-26-2010, 07:11 AM
Cold? That ain't cold. Just wait until the first World Series game at Target Field!
RedFanAlways1966
05-26-2010, 07:14 AM
Do not like it. If it works, do not mess with it. I'd have to say that the Super Bowl has worked fine for many years. But I forget that money sometimes makes people do dumb things.
Roy Tucker
05-26-2010, 12:55 PM
I think most football fans don't mind a little inclement weather. But I don't think your average football fan attends the Super Bowl.
As long as its on TV, I don't really care. And I think the odds are good it will be on TV.
HoosierRedsFan
05-26-2010, 01:11 PM
I think most football fans don't mind a little inclement weather. But I don't think your average football fan attends the Super Bowl.
As long as its on TV, I don't really care. And I think the odds are good it will be on TV.
I think you are on to something there. I am hoping maybe some of the "corporate big wigs" will decide maybe its a little too cold for them and hopefully some of us football fans can afford to actually attend a Super Bowl.
Glad the the Super Bowl is coming to Indy in 2012 as it will probably be my one and only time to get to a Super Bowl.
HoosierRedsFan
05-26-2010, 01:22 PM
I think each city that has a NFL team should get at least one time to host the Super Bowl.....but thats my opinion and I know a lot of people disagree with me.
bucksfan2
05-26-2010, 01:26 PM
I love it. There is no doubt in my mind that warm weather super bowls give an advantage to warm weather teams and dome teams. I look at the Bengals the way they stand now and over the past few years they have placed a greater emphasis on winning games in the AFC North and winning outdoor football games in December.
edabbs44
05-26-2010, 01:40 PM
Jersey, represent. Cannot wait for the Snookie/Situation hosted parties.
westofyou
05-26-2010, 01:46 PM
Jersey, represent. Cannot wait for the Snookie/Situation hosted parties.
Leave it Jersey to have a gal from Poughkeepsie and a doof from Queens represent the state!
cumberlandreds
05-26-2010, 01:55 PM
I'll be watching on TV so I don't mind it. In fact I like to watch games in which it snows. This past year the first week in Feb featured a monster blizzard for most of the east coast. I hope it does the same in 2014.
RichRed
05-26-2010, 02:27 PM
The fact that Mike Golic is so dead set against the idea makes me think the NFL is on to something.
Chip R
05-26-2010, 02:58 PM
It's not the best idea they have ever had. If a big snowstorm hits the east coast, they are going to be in trouble. But it's better than holding the game in London. However, they have conference playoff games in inclement weather all the time. It's going to be funny to listen to the media complain about this because it isn't in a place with warm weather where they can't pad their expense accounts.
bucksfan2
05-26-2010, 03:06 PM
It's not the best idea they have ever had. If a big snowstorm hits the east coast, they are going to be in trouble. But it's better than holding the game in London. However, they have conference playoff games in inclement weather all the time. It's going to be funny to listen to the media complain about this because it isn't in a place with warm weather where they can't pad their expense accounts.
The Super Bowl has been in Detroit a couple of times. But yea I do think you will hear the media upset because they don't get to go to Florida or Arizona.
15fan
05-26-2010, 03:31 PM
A couple of years ago, Atlanta was bidding on 2 Super Bowls.
It was well-known that the powers-that-be downgraded Atlanta's bid because of the ice storm that hit the city the day of the Rams-Titans Super Bowl, which was one of the more epic SBs in recent years. The NFL subsequently awarded the Super Bowls to Miami and Tampa (or New Orleans, I can't remember), citing the much better chance of good weather for those games and the weeklong events associated with the Super Bowl.
The first Super Bowl following the aforementioned bidding was in...Detroit.
(Domes in both cities. Late January in Detroit is ok, but late January in Atlanta isn't?)
The second Super Bowl following the aforementioned bidding was the Colts-Bears game in Miami that was played in a steady rain for most of the game.
(Would've been a 100% chance of 72 degrees and dry in the Georgia Dome that day...)
So the NFL can spin this however it wants. The fact of the matter is that it is all about $. Pure and simple. And that's fine if you have to make a decision based 100% on finances. I think we can all understand that.
Just don't be surprised when karma rears its ugly head for the 2014 Super Bowl and New York is hit with a massive blizzard and subzero temperatures for the championship game between San Diego and Arizona.
Puffy
05-26-2010, 03:32 PM
Leave it Jersey to have a gal from Poughkeepsie and a doof from Queens represent the state!
Snookie is from Poughkeepsie?? See I kept telling people I didn't need to watch that show because I grew up with those people everyday and now I have proof!!
westofyou
05-26-2010, 03:47 PM
Snookie is from Poughkeepsie?? See I kept telling people I didn't need to watch that show because I grew up with those people everyday and now I have proof!!
Yep, she's Hudson Valley all the way
Unassisted
05-26-2010, 04:55 PM
Hey, if it turns out to be a success, maybe you'll get one in Cincinnati. ;)
oneupper
05-26-2010, 05:07 PM
Don't Like. Dolphins don't like the cold. :)
Kingspoint
05-26-2010, 05:19 PM
I went to the Ice Bowl game, I'll never go to another winter football game in a northern state.
Did the same in Seattle, and won't go again. What a miserable day, but instead of ice, it was nothing but cold, freezing, windy rain; and, if you wanted to see any of the game (I was 10 rows up at the 10 yard line), you had to stand the whole game because Seattle fans stand during the entire game.
I could handle snow in another City, but not the nasty weather in Seattle.
Kingspoint
05-26-2010, 05:22 PM
ESPN showed that over the last 5-6 years, only in 2010 was there any snow in the area, and that was 0.7". Most of the time the temps were highs in the upper 40's and lows in the low 30's, with slight/chance of rain.
Those are highs. But, since the game won't even start until after sunset, the game-time temperatures will probably be in the 20's, at most in the low 30's.
Kingspoint
05-26-2010, 05:23 PM
Cold? That ain't cold. Just wait until the first World Series game at Target Field!
Where's Target Field?
BuckeyeRed27
05-26-2010, 05:27 PM
Where's Target Field?
The new outdoor Twins stadium.
For the Super Bowl I don't mind the idea. Football is an outdoor sport and the weather plays into the game a lot. If it snows it will be a pretty boring game, but it wouldn't be the first time it snowed during a football game either.
Somebody had the idea of passing it around to all the teams in the league and I have to say that is a terrible idea. The Super Bowl is a huge event that only a few NFL cities can really handle. Jacksonville had a ton of problems and that isn't that small of a city. What would Green Bay or Buffalo do? To be honest Cincinnati and Cleveland would probably struggle with it to some degree.
KoryMac5
05-26-2010, 06:10 PM
NY made a good presentation to the owners and it paid off for them. This super bowl will probably be the biggest sporting event of our time no matter who the teams are. The ratings for this will be through the roof and you won't be able to find a ticket any where for this game. The NY media will be all over this. From XMas on til Feb nothing but NY Super Bowl talk.
The only thing I worry about is that some of these folks will be out in those conditions for 7-8 hrs by the time the game is over. That's a lot of time to be out in 30 degree weather.
This will probably open the door for Chicago to host a Super Bowl down the road. I can't see any other team getting one (cold weather teams) as some of the smaller cities aren't equipped to handle that many folks coming in to their cities.
Great idea and I will love sitting at home watching.
Kingspoint
05-26-2010, 07:59 PM
The new outdoor Twins stadium.
For the Super Bowl I don't mind the idea. Football is an outdoor sport and the weather plays into the game a lot. If it snows it will be a pretty boring game, but it wouldn't be the first time it snowed during a football game either.
Somebody had the idea of passing it around to all the teams in the league and I have to say that is a terrible idea. The Super Bowl is a huge event that only a few NFL cities can really handle. Jacksonville had a ton of problems and that isn't that small of a city. What would Green Bay or Buffalo do? To be honest Cincinnati and Cleveland would probably struggle with it to some degree.
Minneapolis had their 3rd snowless March in about 120 years this year.
Things are changing. We should be able to have more games up North now.
Eric_the_Red
05-26-2010, 08:47 PM
Those are highs. But, since the game won't even start until after sunset, the game-time temperatures will probably be in the 20's, at most in the low 30's.
Need to re-read my post...the lows were in the low 30's during the last few games.
The NFL report says: Average February temperatures there are 24 to 40 degrees, with several inches of rain, according to the bid documents.
Since the game starts around 6:30pm, I don't think the temperatures will be at their lowest level at that time.
Also, why is it okay for dome or warm weather teams to have ideal conditions for the Super Bowl, but not cold weather teams?
Kingspoint
05-26-2010, 09:39 PM
Also, why is it okay for dome or warm weather teams to have ideal conditions for the Super Bowl, but not cold weather teams?
I hear you.
I hope it's as nasty as it usually was in the Meadowlands.
reds1869
05-27-2010, 09:25 AM
Where's Target Field?
Minnesota.
Yachtzee
05-27-2010, 01:27 PM
NY made a good presentation to the owners and it paid off for them. This super bowl will probably be the biggest sporting event of our time no matter who the teams are. The ratings for this will be through the roof and you won't be able to find a ticket any where for this game. The NY media will be all over this. From XMas on til Feb nothing but NY Super Bowl talk.
The only thing I worry about is that some of these folks will be out in those conditions for 7-8 hrs by the time the game is over. That's a lot of time to be out in 30 degree weather.
This will probably open the door for Chicago to host a Super Bowl down the road. I can't see any other team getting one (cold weather teams) as some of the smaller cities aren't equipped to handle that many folks coming in to their cities.
Great idea and I will love sitting at home watching.
I think a place like Cleveland or Cincinnati is certainly as well equipped to handle a Super Bowl as places like Detroit or Indianapolis, or even warmer weather sites like Nashville, Charlotte, or Atlanta, should the NFL consider those sites for Super Bowls. For example, Cleveland has a newer downtown stadium. It also has the Q for holding indoor practices and media events, with its main entertainment district located between the two locations. Plus, Cleveland has an advantage over places like Nashville and Charlotte in that it is well accustomed to dealing with large amounts of snow and bad weather. Road crews in Northeast Ohio are extremely capable of keeping the roads clear in bad weather in order to allow events to go on as scheduled. So, as opposed to some of those more southern cities, where the city shuts down when an inch or two of snow falls, Cleveland could get up to 6-12 inches and still be able to clear things out in a reasonable amount of time. Cincinnati could also be a good place for the game, with ample hotel space downtown and across the river in Covington. Once the Banks Project is complete, they should have a nice entertainment district between Paul Brown Stadium and the Riverfront Coliseum (whatever it is called now) for indoor practices/media events. Though they might need to call in some Clevelanders to consult on snow removal if a storm hits. ;)
westofyou
05-27-2010, 01:34 PM
Hotels, you have to have lot's of hotel rooms
Roy Tucker
05-27-2010, 01:47 PM
IIRC, the movement to have a Super Bowl in Giants Stadium started right after 9/11.
Sea Ray
05-27-2010, 01:56 PM
I think a place like Cleveland or Cincinnati is certainly as well equipped to handle a Super Bowl as places like Detroit or Indianapolis, or even warmer weather sites like Nashville, Charlotte, or Atlanta, should the NFL consider those sites for Super Bowls. For example, Cleveland has a newer downtown stadium. It also has the Q for holding indoor practices and media events, with its main entertainment district located between the two locations. Plus, Cleveland has an advantage over places like Nashville and Charlotte in that it is well accustomed to dealing with large amounts of snow and bad weather. Road crews in Northeast Ohio are extremely capable of keeping the roads clear in bad weather in order to allow events to go on as scheduled. So, as opposed to some of those more southern cities, where the city shuts down when an inch or two of snow falls, Cleveland could get up to 6-12 inches and still be able to clear things out in a reasonable amount of time. Cincinnati could also be a good place for the game, with ample hotel space downtown and across the river in Covington. Once the Banks Project is complete, they should have a nice entertainment district between Paul Brown Stadium and the Riverfront Coliseum (whatever it is called now) for indoor practices/media events. Though they might need to call in some Clevelanders to consult on snow removal if a storm hits. ;)
I don't know that our stadium is big enough. Don't they want more than 66K?
bucksfan2
05-27-2010, 02:19 PM
I don't know that our stadium is big enough. Don't they want more than 66K?
How big was Jacksonville's stadium?
I think Cincinnati is better equipped to handle a super bowl than say Jacksonville. Infrastructure and logistically speaking it has the ability to handle such a crowd. As for the hotel situation it poses an interesting question but you have to wonder how far away people would be willing to stay. The downtown area is by no means itself is equipped to handle a super bowl, but the metro area is as capable or more capable than places like Jacksonville.
I would love to see a rotating super bowl that goes to all the cities regardless of weather. If the NFL is willing to play a championship game in a cold weather city I see no reason why it shouldn't play a super bowl in a cold weather city on a more regular basis.
Maybe Mike Brown can strike a deal with the NFL. He will hire and GM and build a practice bubble if the NFL grants him a super bowl!
Chip R
05-27-2010, 02:25 PM
Hotels, you have to have lot's of hotel rooms
http://www.travelodge.com/Travelodge/Booking/branded/TL/images/09733_b1.jpg
westofyou
05-27-2010, 02:44 PM
http://www.travelodge.com/Travelodge/Booking/branded/TL/images/09733_b1.jpg
fans are one thing, they'll sleep anywhere they might only be in town for a couple of days, meanwhile there is the media horde, tehy can't stay outside of the loop and they want lots of rooms for maybe 2 weeks in some cases.
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