6-6-10

[mth123]

It worked yesterday, so I'll start it again for luck today. Need a lot of luck with the Sunday special.

Cabrera - SS
Cairo - 3B
Votto - 1B
Phillips - 2B
Bruce - RF
Nix - LF
Stubbs - CF
Miller -C
Arroyo - P

Miggy, Corky and Laynce all at once. Need big days from Bruce and Votto. Maybe Cairo recaptures his magic of a couple weeks ago.

[PuffyPig]

Corky and Cairo pretty expected with Hernandez sure not to play, and Rolen generally not playing a day game after a night game.

[Degenerate39]

Nix will probably make me regret saying this but Heisey needs to start over Nix. Outside of a few good starts this season he hasn't been very good.

[GAC]

http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/v/mlb/teams/20080123/80x60/cin.gif

O. Cabrera ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .269
M. Cairo 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .295
J. Votto 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .321
B. Phillips 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .287
J. Bruce rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .268
L. Nix lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .232
D. Stubbs cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .231
C. Miller c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
B. Arroyo p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .167

http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/v/mlb/teams/20080123/80x60/was.gif

C. Guzman 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .314
N. Morgan cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .258
R. Zimmerman 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .310
A. Dunn 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .276
J. Willingham lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .277
R. Bernadina rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .247
I. Desmond ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .274
W. Nieves c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .186
C. Stammen p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .300

[Edd Roush]

Can't really complain too much with the lineup. I would expect bruce to get an off day tomorrow against zito and hopefully heisey gets a start in his place.

[GAC]

Hope Cairo's bat can carry the absence of Rolen today. Not sure, but the last time he filled in for Rolen at 3B was in that Atlanta debacle where he committed a very critical error.

Just noticed that this kid pitching for the Nats (Stammen) is from up around my neck of the woods - Coldwater, Ohio.

He's never faced the Reds till today. He's winless since beating Colorado on April 19. The right-hander did not get a decision for a third straight start last Tuesday night, when he gave up five runs and nine hits in five innings of an 8-7 loss to Houston.

[Edd Roush]

Hope Cairo's bat can carry the absence of Rolen today. Not sure, but the last time he filled in for Rolen at 3B was in that Atlanta debacle where he committed a very critical error.

Just noticed that this kid pitching for the Nats (Stammen) is from up around my neck of the woods - Coldwater, Ohio.

He's never faced the Reds till today. He's winless since beating Colorado on April 19. The right-hander did not get a decision for a third straight start last Tuesday night, when he gave up five runs and nine hits in five innings of an 8-7 loss to Houston.
Stammen is actually a graduate of the University of Dayton. I wish he would represent a little bit better, but he can wait to turn it around until after this start.

[oneupper]

Today is my wedding anniversary. :) GO REDS!

OT. Cairo is not in the lineup for Rolen. He's in for Hernandez, since a dash of Venezuelan flavor is required to spice up the team menu.

[TheNext44]

D-Day!

The Reds should have called up Danny Dorn just for today!

[Big Klu]

It worked yesterday, so I'll start it again for luck today. Need a lot of luck with the Sunday special.

Cabrera - SS
Cairo - 3B
Votto - 1B
Phillips - 2B
Bruce - RF
Nix - LF
Stubbs - CF
Miller -C
Arroyo - P

Miggy, Corky and Laynce all at once. Need big days from Bruce and Votto. Maybe Cairo recaptures his magic of a couple weeks ago.


I don't know if I would call this a "Sunday Special". There are five starters in the lineup, as well as the fourth OF and a backup INF who was a contender for NL Player Of The Week last week.

RedsZone would have straight-out hated Sparky's lineups in 1975 and Lou's in 1990--both were well-known for giving their subs plenty of playing time.



Can't really complain too much with the lineup. I would expect bruce to get an off day tomorrow against zito and hopefully heisey gets a start in his place.

I wouldn't mind giving Cabrera a day off at some point during the homestand, too.

[GAC]

Today is my wedding anniversary. :) GO REDS!

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY GUY!


OT. Cairo is not in the lineup for Rolen. He's in for Hernandez, since a dash of Venezuelan flavor is required to spice up the team menu.

Huh? Are you trying to be funny? :D

[GAC]

Chat is open! :beerme:

[RedsMan3203]

OC, lead off double

[mbgrayson]

leadoff double for OCab.

[mbgrayson]

Warm in DC today: 88 is the game time temp.

[RedsMan3203]

Cario bunts OC to 3rd, out at 1st.

[RedsMan3203]

Votto singles in OC! 1-0 Reds

[TheNext44]

Gotta beat up on teams like the Nats if the Reds want to stay in contention.

[RedsMan3203]

BP flies out to center.

[WVRedsFan]

I don't know about you guys, but this thing of bunting a runner over to third drives me batty. He would have scored anyway on Votto's hit and we waste an out. Now it's 2 outs, any hope for more runs is gone. silly stuff

[RedsMan3203]

Bruce grounds out to 2nd..

Reds 1, Nats 0 bt 1

[mbgrayson]

I don't know about you guys, but this thing of bunting a runner over to third drives me batty. He would have scored anyway on Votto's hit and we waste an out. Now it's 2 outs, any hope for more runs is gone. silly stuff

Agreed. Bunting is way over used. That was a good example of a place not to do it.

[RedsMan3203]

Guzman doubles to right.

[RedsManRick]

With 2-3-4 coming up and a fast guy on 2B, why in the world do you make an out on purpose, when a hit scores the runner and there's a decent chance an out will advance the guy to 3B anyways.

It's one thing if you're going up against Lincecum and runs are likely to be scarce. But there's absolutely no reason to give Craig Stamen free outs.

[WVRedsFan]

I could see it if you're buting a man into scoring position, but not when a runner is on second. Old school tactics. And from the looks of things we're going to need some runs.

[RedsMan3203]

Morgan bunts Guzman over to 3rd, out at 1st.

[Edd Roush]

I don't know about you guys, but this thing of bunting a runner over to third drives me batty. He would have scored anyway on Votto's hit and we waste an out. Now it's 2 outs, any hope for more runs is gone. silly stuff

If we were talking about votto bruce phillips rolen or gomes bunting, I could agree with you. But we are talking about cairo. Might as well let him move the runner over in case votto does hit a loing fly ball. Votto is really good but you can't expect him to get a hit every at bat.

[RedsMan3203]

Zimmerman singles home Guzman.

[RedsManRick]

I could see it if you're buting a man into scoring position, but not when a runner is on second. Old school tactics. And from the looks of things we're going to need some runs.

Managers who played ball in the 70's when runs were harder to come by and outs were less valuable simply don't understand how the calculus changes in a different run scoring environment.

I wonder how many managers actively seek professional development to hone their craft and stay up on industry trends the way most other professionals do.

[RedsMan3203]

Dunn strikes out swinging....

[WVRedsFan]

Oh well. Day game. Bad Arroyo. SOS. We're going to need some runs, boys.

[RedsManRick]

Both managers give up an out for no good reason.

[RedsMan3203]

Willingham lines out to BP

1 to 1 after 1

[RedsMan3203]

Nix singles to right

[WVRedsFan]

These red uniforms the Nats are wearing look so much like the Reds' so-called Sunday uniforms, that it isn't funny. Confusing.

[RedsMan3203]

Stubby hits one oppo to the track... Just a long out

[GAC]

free beer in chat!!!

[RedsMan3203]

Miller flies out to center on the 1 pitch.

[WVRedsFan]

This lineup is Hackers Anonymous. Could be a long day.

[westofyou]

Hey Corky Miller...Gorman Thomas called, he wants his mustache back.

[jojo]

Corky just looks like a ball player...

[RedsMan3203]

Arroyo singles to left..

[WVRedsFan]

Corky just looks like a ball player...Yeah. Disco Ball.

[Ron Madden]

I don't know about you guys, but this thing of bunting a runner over to third drives me batty. He would have scored anyway on Votto's hit and we waste an out. Now it's 2 outs, any hope for more runs is gone. silly stuff

I agree with you.

[RedsMan3203]

OC lines a rope out to SS.

1-1 after 1.5

[RedsMan3203]

And Nats open up with a single to right.

[Puffy]

This lineup is Hackers Anonymous. Could be a long day.

Or they are just doing what the scouting report of Stammen says. Fastballs over plate early in counts, maybe??

[RedsMan3203]

Desmond strikes out swinging.

[oneupper]

Or they are just doing what the scouting report of Stammen says. Fastballs over plate early in counts, maybe??

Yep. Methinks second time around they'll be waiting him out.

[RedsMan3203]

Nieves pop fly out to shalllllllow center.... Stubby with great range.

[jojo]

Stubbs is like defensive AFLAC.....short and left are in full panic, Stubbs isn't even challenged

[RedsMan3203]

Stammen grounds into a FC 6-4

1-1 after 2

[RedsMan3203]

Cario grounds out to 2nd.. ho hum...

[RedsMan3203]

Votto grounds out to 2nd... ho hum

[jojo]

That ball would've been over Gomes head for a triple I bet...

[RedsMan3203]

BP lines out to right.

Quick 1-2-3

1-1 after 2.5

[oneupper]

That was about 5-6 pitches max. There is aggressive and there is too aggressive...

[RedsMan3203]

Guzman flies out to Stubbs in center.

[RedsMan3203]

Morgan flies out to Stubbs in center.

[RedsMan3203]

Zimmerman flies out to right.

Quick 1-2-3

After 3, 1-1

[mbgrayson]

A very quick, low pitch 3rd inning all around.

[oneupper]

Bruce first pitch out. Now it's ridiculous.

[WVRedsFan]

You know...I can't figure out Jay Bruce. Hot for a week and now he's making some really poor decisions at the plate--confusing.

[oneupper]

Nix 2 for 2.

[WVRedsFan]

It's amazing how much this club misses Rolen and Gomes when they are not in the lineup. They become the anemic Reds we came to loathe

[WVRedsFan]

Oh yeah, and Hernandez-Hanigan, too. Man, this lineup is like the 1962 Mets.

[RedsMan3203]

Sorry all, Missed this inning.... Had to great some grub...

[WVRedsFan]

These Sunday Specials gripe me. Why take all your firepower out of the lineup on the same day? Sorry, but watching this 5.88 ERA pitcher pitch a clinic against the lineup we have today has me seeing red for some reason.

[oneupper]

Oh yeah, and Hernandez-Hanigan, too. Man, this lineup is like the 1962 Mets.

Not a good analogy. The '62 Mets could hit some, with Marv, Snider and all.
Their pitching and defense was atrocious.

[forfreelin04]

You know...I can't figure out Jay Bruce. Hot for a week and now he's making some really poor decisions at the plate--confusing.

I've noticed Bruce is hands happy at the plate. It's alright to move the bat until the pitch comes, but Bruce is doing it up until the pitch is on him. Thus, his hands start in different spots before the swing. This might explain his lack of power and his ugly groundouts to second. Same thing every time at the plate is key just like a windup

[RedsMan3203]

Looks like DC is starting to darken up..... Rain?

[oneupper]

Stubbs covering a whole county out there. Wow.

[HeatherC1212]

Poor Bronson. He could get messed up by a rain delay again. :eek:

[WVRedsFan]

Stubbs covering a whole county out there. Wow.Simply amazing. Worth whatever offensive liability he has.

[oneupper]

Bernadina walks on a borderline pitch.

[forfreelin04]

Another 2 out walk burns arroyo

[jojo]

Walls and Nix don't mix....

[HeatherC1212]

Wow, that ball looked like it totally tailed off sideways in the wind. :eek:

[Blitz Dorsey]

That should have been a strike on the 3-2 count. Terrible call.

Then Nix botches ANOTHER ball against the wall. Is he afraid of the fence or something. Make the freakin' catch!

[WVRedsFan]

Too bad we don't have another Stubbs in left. He might have caught that. But Brosnan has no one to blame but himself. Pouring the rain

[oneupper]

Wow, that ball looked like it totally tailed off sideways in the wind. :eek:

Fortunately, cause it was was smoked. Could have gone out.

[WVRedsFan]

That should have been a strike on the 3-2 count. Terrible call.

Then Nix botches ANOTHER ball against the wall. Is he afraid of the fence or something. Make the freakin' catch!Totally agree. Terrible call and Nix should have had that one.

[forfreelin04]

That should have been a strike on the 3-2 count. Terrible call.

Then Nix botches ANOTHER ball against the wall. Is he afraid of the fence or something. Make the freakin' catch!

Agreed would have liked Keels to shut it for a second and see where that pitch was.

[redsfaninbsg]

I'd pinch hit here, rain is obviously near.

[WVRedsFan]

Agreed would have liked Keels to shut it for a second and see where that pitch was.Keels is the TV version of Steve Sloan. Full of trivia ad nauseum.

[mth123]

Keels is the TV version of Steve Sloan. Full of trivia ad nauseum.

Steve Sloan?

[redsfaninbsg]

Guess Dusty knew something I didn't. Nice job Bronson.

[oneupper]

Gotta get some runs. This pitcher is nothing special.

[WVRedsFan]

Steve Sloan?The Bad Boy. What was his name? How soon we forget.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Steve Stewart.

[oneupper]

Low shuffle to Desmond nixes the DP. Whew.

[forfreelin04]

Has anyone listened to keels when he does Osu games? Does he get excited for touchdowns?

[RedsMan3203]

Has anyone listened to keels when he does Osu games? Does he get excited for touchdowns?

I like guy for OSU and Reds baseball... But thats just me.

[GAC]

oneupper......

I can't beleive you're spending your anniversary on a GT.......

AND NOT IN CHAT WITH SENSIBLE PEOPLE! :D

[Blitz Dorsey]

Has anyone listened to keels when he does Osu games? Does he get excited for touchdowns?

He's beyond terrible as any OSU fan will tell you.

"And the 2002 national championship goes to the Buckeyes..." (Said in a deep voice, yet one from a person that is likely on Valium.)

[forfreelin04]

Votto needs to wake up and have an atbat.

[CTA513]

How awful would it be to have to watch Desmond and Guzman butcher plays all the time like they have this series?

[oneupper]

Nice play by Guzman there. Ball was on its way to right field.

GAC. I love you guys in Chat, but my mlb.tv feed runs behind.

[WVRedsFan]

oneupper......

I can't beleive you're spending your anniversary on a GT.......

AND NOT IN CHAT WITH SENSIBLE PEOPLE! :D

And what are we? Chopped liver? Insults will get you nowhere, GAC.

[Blitz Dorsey]

This is terrible. This pitcher has nothing and we've got one run. C'mon boys!

[forfreelin04]

He's beyond terrible as any OSU fan will tell you.

"And the 2002 national championship goes to the Buckeyes..." (Said in a deep voice, yet one from a person that is likely on Valium.)

Sounds like he should be announcing golf and tennis.

[jojo]

Mike Rizzo was creeping me out by staring at the camera....

[Blitz Dorsey]

Sounds like he should be announcing golf and tennis.

Absitively.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Nix didn't need to dive for that ball. Just sayin'.

[oneupper]

Nix didn't need to dive for that ball. Just sayin'.

After he took that awful route, he did. :)

[nate]

Mike Rizzo was creeping me out by staring at the camera....

At least it wasn't Frank Rizzo.

[forfreelin04]

Keels almost got excited there. He thought about raising his voice then realized it's never worth it.

[forfreelin04]

I'm gonna scream if Bruce swings at the first pitch. It's clear that someone told the lineup the pitcher who throws first pitch fastballs. That person I would like to punch for his hideous advice.

[oneupper]

Brandon first pitch pop up.

[fearofpopvol1]

Is there a rule that when it's a day game, the Reds are instructed to hack?

[Blitz Dorsey]

This is hard to watch.

[fearofpopvol1]

Bruce has hit the ball on the ground 3 times in a row to the same spot. He looks terrible.

[forfreelin04]

Best way to make an average pitcher better is to swing early in the count often.

[WVRedsFan]

Great goodness, Jay.

[GoReds]

Is everyone in a slump right now? These aren't exactly Cy Young candidates out there.

[GAC]

GAC. I love you guys in Chat, but my mlb.tv feed runs behind.

we're not doing pbp.

We're too drunk guy! :p:

[forfreelin04]

Looks like a get back home plate approach

[fearofpopvol1]

Less than 10 pitches this inning, 3 outs.

[mbgrayson]

Absolutely no plate patience today: Stammen through 6 on 60 pitches.

[WVRedsFan]

Nix just swung at a pitch on the ground. So many irregulars in the lineup today--3 to be exact and missing a major part of the offense as well as Bruce with his head far up his rectum is a gift from Dusty to the Nationals and their 5.88 ERA pitcher. Santa Baker?

[fearofpopvol1]

Absolutely no plate patience today: Stammen through 6 on 60 pitches.

That's ridiculous...10 pitches an inning. And this guy came into the game with an ERA in the high 5s.

[redsfaninbsg]

9 outs left to do something. I hate these Sunday games, this is two Sunday's in a row where I felt like the team just didn't try to win.

[mbgrayson]

9 outs left to do something. I hate these Sunday games, this is Sunday's in a row where I felt like the team just didn't try to win.


It feels that way to me too.

[Gallen5862]

What inning is it? Is the score still 1-1? Is Arroyo still pitching? Any PBP or inning summaries would be apreciated.

[GoReds]

2-1 Nats, bottom 6.

Arroyo is still in, pitching pretty well, but the Reds offense is in a coma.

[Gallen5862]

How did the Nats take the lead?

[jojo]

9 outs left to do something. I hate these Sunday games, this is two Sunday's in a row where I felt like the team just didn't try to win.

and this one might get rain delayed too....

[forfreelin04]

Like to see some patience here at least 15 pitches thrown this inning.

[GoReds]

Arroyo walked Bernadina on a close pitch that should have been strike 3. Desmond then hit a ball that would have been gone on any other day, but the wind was blowing towards right. Looked like Nix had a chance to catch it, but couldn't bring it in.

[mbgrayson]

How did the Nats take the lead?

In the 4th, two out walk on a bad full count call, followed by a Desmond double off the wall.

[Gallen5862]

Thanks for the Info. Let's go Reds.

[GoReds]

Angel Hernandez expands his strikezone as the rain starts to fall.

[Degenerate39]

Stubbs is fast

[TheNext44]

He needs to steal here.

[WVRedsFan]

Any reason why Hanigan isn't playing? Corky flipping Miller. What a waste.

[jojo]

Dunn flashing the leather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now he is no doubt mentoring Stubbs on how to steal bases...

[Degenerate39]

Any reason why Hanigan isn't playing? Corky flipping Miller. What a waste.

He's on the DL?

[mbgrayson]

Any reason why Hanigan isn't playing? Corky flipping Miller. What a waste.

He is on the DL.

[GoReds]

Nice for Corky to take a couple pitches before hacking away. Sheesh.

[TheNext44]

Now he needs to steal second & third

[fearofpopvol1]

Dibble is not very professional. He continues to pound the umps for past calls (not even ones today). Once was enough. Concentrate on the game, dude.

[nate]

Any reason why Hanigan isn't playing? Corky flipping Miller. What a waste.

He's on the DL.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Wow, I think Mesoraco could give a better at-bat than Corky. What a joke.

[forfreelin04]

Corky Miller looks like he just came from the set of deadwood. Which is kind of a good way to describe his hitting.

[jojo]

He's on the DL?

Nuthin' can keep Corky down...

[HeatherC1212]

Orlando needs a hit right here.

[TheNext44]

Dibble is not very professional. He continues to pound the umps. Once was enough. Concentrate on the game, dude.

The umps today or still talking about the first two games?

[fearofpopvol1]

Wow, pitching change for Nats. I don't get it? Stammen has mowed the REds down.

[HeatherC1212]

Wow, they're taking out their pitcher? That's odd.

[Degenerate39]

That was a curious move by the Nats

[WVRedsFan]

Nationals take out their ace--the guy that held the Reds to one run.

[fearofpopvol1]

The umps today or still talking about the first two games?

The prior games

[Blitz Dorsey]

Dibble is not very professional. He continues to pound the umps for past calls (not even ones today). Once was enough. Concentrate on the game, dude.

You're listening to Dibble? All of a sudden Keels doesn't sound so bad. ;-)

Rob "Traitor" Dibble. You would never know he played for the Reds (let alone won a WS title) listening to his dumb-@..

[mbgrayson]

They have Storen, Clippard, and Capps ready to roll.

[fearofpopvol1]

You're listening to Dibble? All of a sudden Keels doesn't sound so bad. ;-)

Rob "Traitor" Dibble. You would never know he played for the Reds (let alone won a WS title) listening to his dumb-@..

Not by choice...Extra Innings is showing the Nats telecast. And unfortunately, the Nats have shown all 3 feeds for the Nats this series. It has been miserable.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Bring on their overrated relievers.

[TheNext44]

The prior games

Well Dibble never has shown the ability to let it go. Which is why he wasn't as good of a closer as he should have been.

[Degenerate39]

What a horrible game

[mbgrayson]

Bring on their overrated relievers.

OCab flies to right. Inning over. You jinxed us!

[Blitz Dorsey]

Cabrera looked surprised that he hit the ball. What the heck is up today? Just terrible at-bats left and right from the Reds. Terrible at-bats. Swinging like it's an 0-2 count when it's 1-0 or 2-0.

[redsfaninbsg]

Worst game I've seen them play since that Padres game.

[mbgrayson]

Worst game I've seen them play since that Padres game.

Like they stayed up too late partying last night? Bags already packed and ready to fly home?

[Blitz Dorsey]

Seriously, go back and watch Cabrera's reaction after he hit the ball. You shouldn't be surprised you hit the ball when you're the one that swung. WTH?

[redsfaninbsg]

I really think it's just an attitude thing on Sunday's. Dusty gives multiple guys off, at the plate nobody goes deeper than three pitches, and it's pretty ho hum.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Like we can afford to be putting out a "B List" lineup.

[HeatherC1212]

This game is not worse than the Padres game. No errors, no one has forgotten how many outs there are, and we're only down by one run. That Padres game was pure crap and even though the hitting approach has sucked today, the rest of their play hasn't been that bad.

[Blitz Dorsey]

This is one of those games where Brook Jacoby must want to hide in the clubhouse. Terrible approaches at the plate, terrible at-bats ... but the Reds have the Nats right where they want 'em. Reds are going to win this one.

[Ron Madden]

This game is not worse than the Padres game. No errors, no one has forgotten how many outs there are, and we're only down by one run. That Padres game was pure crap and even though the hitting approach has sucked today, the rest of their play hasn't been that bad.

Agreed.

[mbgrayson]

I really think it's just an attitude thing on Sunday's. Dusty gives multiple guys off, at the plate nobody goes deeper than three pitches, and it's pretty ho hum.

Reds are 4 wins, 4 losses on previous Sunday games.

[Blitz Dorsey]

How does someone like Wil Nieves even make it to the Big Leagues? Bad offensively and defensively.

[WVRedsFan]

Both managers love the bunt. Yuck.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Great baserunning from Bernadino. More players should do that. (You hear me talkin' Laynce Nix?)

[redsfaninbsg]

I didn't say it's as bad as the Padres game, I said it's the worst I've seen them play since the Padres game.

[fearofpopvol1]

Stubbs didn't throw the ball in quickly yet again. I would bench him for a day...2 out of the last 3 days he's been blase with throwing the ball in and the Nats have made him/The Reds pay.

[Blitz Dorsey]

I love how Stubbs all of a sudden thinks he's Brandon Phillips or something and he's allowed to hot dog. (Kind of a joke there. But at least BP has a 30/30 year on his resume. Stubbs has nothing.)

Hey Drew, play hard, don't loaf. You don't hit nearly well enough for you to ever loaf defensively.

[Tony Cloninger]

It is games liek these the last 3 days and the one against HOU..... that makes me realize why FCB....is the way he is.

[CTA513]

How does someone like Wil Nieves even make it to the Big Leagues? Bad offensively and defensively.

They have like 2 or 3 catchers out with injuries.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Nice. Come on now!

[oneupper]

Arroyo pitched well enough to win. Now HIT (or walk or something that's not an out).

[redsfaninbsg]

2-3-4, Reds have to score here.

[Blitz Dorsey]

They have like 2 or 3 catchers out with injuries.

I knew Pudge was down, didn't realize they had 1-2 others on the shelf. Nieves is garbage. (So, we have a pair of AAA catchers starting today.)

[fearofpopvol1]

I'm glad Arroyo got out of the jam...but here's the question...does Stubbs learn his lesson? Does Dusty talk to him about it? Or does it become irrelevant since Arroyo got out of the jam? Would a dogging it play only become an issue if it costs the Reds a game or causes a run to score?

[Ron Madden]

Get some runners on base and score some runs, it's gettin' late.

[mbgrayson]

We HAVE to get to Clippard here.

[mbgrayson]

Cairo has not looked good since Joey came back....

[Blitz Dorsey]

Bad idea to give Rolen the day off. He's hot, Cairo hasn't played in a week.

[Degenerate39]

Cairo has not looked good since Joey came back....

He's not very good

[Blitz Dorsey]

Awful. This is just one of those games I guess. Even Votto is having poor ABs.

[Degenerate39]

Votto hasn't looked good except for the first at-bat

[HeatherC1212]

Angel Hernandez sucks.

[WVRedsFan]

hang it up friends. This one is over. When Joey Votto has an at-bat like that, it's time to pack for home.

[Blitz Dorsey]

That pitch was high to BP. This home plate ump is having a rough day.

[Blitz Dorsey]

If you are a man and your name is Angel, there could be issues.

[mbgrayson]

That pitch was high to BP. This home plate ump is having a rough day.

But Arroyo benefited too. Gotta score more than one run.

[forfreelin04]

That pitch was high to BP. This home plate ump is having a rough day.

Never trust someone named Angel

[Blitz Dorsey]

But Arroyo benefited too. Gotta score more than one run.

He did? There should have been a K on a 3-2 count right before Desmond's "double" (that should have been caught by Nix).

[toledodan]

Bad idea to give Rolen the day off. He's hot, Cairo hasn't played in a week.

yep, lets sit down rolen, gomes and hernandez in the same game.:thumbdown

[Blitz Dorsey]

Atta boy BP.

[HeatherC1212]

This pitcher has one of the weirdest pitching motions I've ever seen. :eek:

[Ron Madden]

Here we go!

[GoReds]

Hope Guzman is ready...

[mbgrayson]

He did? There should have been a K on a 3-2 count right before Desmond's "double" (that should have been caught by Nix).

Agreed that he has missed some. Still, 1 run off Stammen? That is just bad. Stammen had 1 K. The Reds got themselves out all the other times.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Agreed that he has missed some. Still, 1 run off Stammen? That is just bad. Stammen had 1 K. The Reds got themselves out all the other times.

You're right about that.

[HeatherC1212]

Good AB by Jay here....

[HeatherC1212]

It didn't end well. *sigh* :(

[Blitz Dorsey]

YUCK

[WVRedsFan]

Good AB, but same result. Like I said, he really confuses me when he goes through long periods like this.

[forfreelin04]

Kinda surprised bp wasn't given the steal sign in that atbat

[Ron Madden]

It didn't end well. *sigh* :(

It was still a good AB.

[Tony Cloninger]

Hernandez or whoever is the Catcher ...always gets the day game after a night game off....almost all the time...60% of the time.

Hernandez is a bad umpire and has been for a while. Like Charlie Williams bad.

[forfreelin04]

Good AB, but same result. Like I said, he really confuses me when he goes through long periods like this.

Like I said, he's got busy hands. He doesn't look comfortable at all.

[Homer Bailey]

Good AB, but same result. Like I said, he really confuses me when he goes through long periods like this.

Every single major league hitter goes through stretches like this.

He's hitting a mere .293 over the last month and OPS'ing .851.

[mbgrayson]

That was pitch 100. Bronson's effectiveness drops after 100.

[redsfaninbsg]

I have no problem with Dusty resting Ramon and even one of Rolen/Gomes. You can not rest all 3 on the same day.

[HeatherC1212]

If I know an umpire's name in this league, it means I know it for a reason and more than likely the reason is that he isn't good. Angel Hernandez is one of those umpires along with CB Bucknor that I hate seeing behind home plate. :(

I understand Rolen and Hernandez being off more because they're a little older but I really hope one or both of them pinch hit in the next inning.

[Degenerate39]

If I know an umpire's name in this league, it means I know it for a reason and more than likely the reason is that he isn't good. Angel Hernandez is one of those umpires along with CB Bucknor that I hate seeing behind home plate. :(

I understand Rolen and Hernandez being off more because they're a little older but I really hope one or both of them pinch hit in the next inning.

Hernandez will pinch hit for Miller and Rolen for the pitcher spot.

[Blitz Dorsey]

This Cairo start just keeps looking worse and worse.

[Ron Madden]

Every single major league hitter goes through stretches like this.

He's hitting a mere .293 over the last month and OPS'ing .851.


Stop using facts in this discussion, Marty and Jeff say Bruce sucks they must be right.

[forfreelin04]

Stop using facts in this discussion, Marty and Jeff say Bruce sucks they must be right.

Nobodys disputing may their disputing June.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Our bullpen is so bad that Dusty has elected to leave Arroyo in there even though he going off of fumes right now.

[nate]

Nobodys disputing may their disputing June.

14 ABs?

Really?

[Ron Madden]

Nobodys disputing may their disputing June.

Today is June 6th.

[forfreelin04]

Cairo again making his precense known again

[TheNext44]

This Cairo start just keeps looking worse and worse.

The honeymoon is over.

[HokieRed]

Starting Cairo and Miller on the same day is like not showing up.

[forfreelin04]

Today is June 6th.

So? A week of baseball is irrelevant?

[Degenerate39]

I bet Dunn goes deep here

[TheNext44]

I'm not liking his matchup. Arroyo v Dunn

[Blitz Dorsey]

Dusty will soon learn there will be plenty of opportunities to rest Rolen when he gets hurt. ;-)

Seriously, enough of worrying about "saving guys" and "giving them rest." Winning games should be at the forefront.

[mbgrayson]

Dunn has struck out 3 times today so far. Going for the golden sombrero....

[Blitz Dorsey]

Good job Bronson

[mbgrayson]

Complete game loss for Bronson?

[redsfaninbsg]

Saved the bullpen for SF at least.

[Ron Madden]

So? A week of baseball is irrelevant?

never mind.

[fearofpopvol1]

Arroyo pitched an excellent game today. Too bad the offense has gotten him 1 run. Here's to hoping we can tie it up or take the lead.

[nate]

So? A week of baseball is irrelevant?

It's not a "long stretch" nor is it indicative of anything other than the natural ebb and flow of hits find seats, ground or gloves. It happens to Albert Pujols and it happens to Willy Taveras.

To portray Bruce as being in the unique situation of having a poor 14 ABs is ignoring that this happens to every player.

[mbgrayson]

Lifetime vs. Matt Capps:

Nix is 2 for 2 (both singles)
Stubbs 0 for 1.
Rolen is 3 for 8 with a HR.
Hernandez is 1 for 3.

[toledodan]

Seriously, enough of worrying about "saving guys" and "giving them rest." Winning games should be at the forefront.



ding ding ding we have a winner. rolen gets more days off a week than i do.:thumbup:

[forfreelin04]

never mind.

There's a fundamental flaw in his approach. Just the mark of a young player. They might go through every bad habit before they find true consistency.

[fearofpopvol1]

Lifetime vs. Matt Capps:

Nix is 2 for 2 (both singles)
Stubbs 0 for 1.
Rolen is 3 for 8 with a HR.
Hernandez is 1 for 3.

Clippard is still pitching

[BCubb2003]

Would you rather start a weak lineup all in one game or weaken your lineup for several games?

[Blitz Dorsey]

That was pathetic, Laynce.

[mbgrayson]

Nix Ks swinging, now Capps being brought in.

[fearofpopvol1]

Would you rather start a weak lineup all in one game or weaken your lineup for several games?

I just wish they had started Heisey over Nix. No real problem with Rolen and Hernandez sitting.

[RedsMan3203]

Would you rather start a weak lineup all in one game or weaken your lineup for several games?

Last week vs Houston... Yes - This week against the Nats? No.. Rolen should of been playing

[redsfaninbsg]

Would you rather start a weak lineup all in one game or weaken your lineup for several games?

You can overcome one weak link, you can't overcome 3/8ths of your lineup being weak links.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Dusty should know this playoff race will come down to a game or two and we can't afford to put scrub lineups out there.

[fearofpopvol1]

Stubbs with a double!! Nice. C'mon now Gomes!

[redsfaninbsg]

At least Gomes/Rolen will get a shot to tie the game.

[mbgrayson]

Lifetime vs. Matt Capps:

Nix is 2 for 2 (both singles)
Stubbs 0 for 1.
Rolen is 3 for 8 with a HR.
Hernandez is 1 for 3.

Gomes is 0 for 1 lifetime vs. Capps.