Jay Mariotti arrested for felony domestic violence

[takealeake]

WOW. Couldn't have happened to a better guy:

http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/21/jay-mariotti-espn-sports-writer-arrested-los-angeles-felony/

This guy really is one of the most judgmental, 'I'm better than you and my opinion is fact' pricks in sports media.

[knoonan991]

I agree with every single word of your post.

The guy is a joke.

[takealeake]

I wonder what he says in response to this, since he seriously is one of the most holier than thou writers in sports and goes after ANY sports figure if they mess up even once.

[mckbearcat48]

Mariotti = Bag.

Any questions?

[GIDP]

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[NorrisHopper30]

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:laugh:

[Brutus]

WOW. Couldn't have happened to a better guy:

http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/21/jay-mariotti-espn-sports-writer-arrested-los-angeles-felony/

This guy really is one of the most judgmental, 'I'm better than you and my opinion is fact' pricks in sports media.

Agree completely on Mariotti. He's pompous, at best.

As far as this incident, laws of altercations between spouses or couples are so slanted against the male that we can know absolutely nothing with regard to the altercation itself without much more to go on.

[GIDP]

Felony domestic violence is pretty substantial of a charge.

[WMR]

Karma.

[WMR]

nm

[Reds4Life]

Felony domestic violence is pretty substantial of a charge.

Yep. If it's a felony charge, his wife must have had some pretty serious injuries or a weapon was involved.

I would LOVE to see Mariotti, with his attitude, locked up in LA county jail for awhile. He would last all of 1 hour.

[WMR]

They don't charge you with felony domestic violence and set a 50k bail if there's not some serious bad behavior going on. Nice to see Jay is as big of a scumbag in his personal life as he is professionally.

[ThornWithin81]

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:bowrofl:

[GIDP]

Yep. If it's a felony charge, his wife must have had some pretty serious injuries or a weapon was involved.

I would LOVE to see Mariotti, with his attitude, locked up in LA county jail for awhile. He would last all of 1 hour.

Yea I think you also get charged with that if you threaten someones life or something along those lines.

[mlh1981]

I'd like to know what Ozzie Guillen thinks of this........

[jredmo2]

When he quit the Sun-Times, you would not believe the way the other writers (not just sportswriters, just writers) piled on the guy in the newspaper. While there is bound to be some bad blood when a guy quits, the palpable disdain for him was incredible. IIRC one writer recounted a time where Jay threatened him with violence over some column. When a person's co-workers of several years are chomping at the bit to publicly ridicule him, that says a lot about the type of person he is IMO.

[Brutus]

They don't charge you with felony domestic violence and set a 50k bail if there's not some serious bad behavior going on. Nice to see Jay is as big of a scumbag in his personal life as he is professionally.

There are a lot of over-zealous prosecutors out there that will initially charge someone with a felony in hopes of inducing a plea bargain for a lesser misdemeanor charge. That's extremely common.

That he was initially charged with a felony tells us very little. Very, very little.

[WMR]

There are a lot of over-zealous prosecutors out there that will initially charge someone with a felony in hopes of inducing a plea bargain for a lesser misdemeanor charge. That's extremely common.

That he was initially charged with a felony tells us very little. Very, very little.

Crim Pro 101- he wasn't charged by a prosecutor, he was arrested by the police officer on suspicion of felony DV... there are specific checklists that police officers must follow when making a felony arrest

:lol:

You, Marriotti, and Mel Gibson should take a road trip together. :D

[Brutus]

Crim Pro 101- he wasn't charged by a prosecutor, he was charged by the arresting officer

:lol:

You, Marriotti, and Mel Gibson should take a road trip together. :D

Your snark isn't necessary.

The point still stands... these charges are often thrown heavy at first. That is true regardless of whether it's the arresting officer or prosecuting attorney.

[WMR]

nm

[Screwball]

Your snark isn't necessary.


Maybe, but I thought it was very funny. Very, very funny.

[Reds4Life]

Your snark isn't necessary.

The point still stands... these charges are often thrown heavy at first. That is true regardless of whether it's the arresting officer or prosecuting attorney.

It's more common to be charged with misdemeaner domestic violence than a felony. The most common cause of it going to a felony is involvement of a weapon of some sort, or his wife have pretty serious injuries. And I ain't talking about a few scratches from smacking each either.

[Brutus]

It's more common to be charged with misdemeaner domestic violence than a felony. The most common cause of it going to a felony is involvement of a weapon of some sort, or his wife have pretty serious injuries. And I ain't talking about a few scratches from smacking each either.

It really depends on the jurisdiction. There are some police departments that throw the book at people whenever possible, especially when it comes to these types of domestic disputes involving a man & a woman.

I grew up in a smaller jurisdiction and witnessed a guy got into a fight with his wife. She started the thing, was beating him on the chest and he pushed her off. She tripped and fell backwards, hitting her head and cutting it open. Guess what? He had been initially charged with a felony, despite the fact I witnessed the entire thing, gave a report stating he was just defending himself, and they still charged him.

The entire case wound up being dropped, but nonetheless it didn't stop them from making a mountain out of a molehill. And where I lived, it was well known that if that type of situation went to the authorities, as a male you were screwed.

[Brutus]

Maybe, but I thought it was very funny. Very, very funny.

No one really asked you, though.

[Yachtzee]

It really depends on the jurisdiction. There are some police departments that throw the book at people whenever possible, especially when it comes to these types of domestic disputes involving a man & a woman.

I grew up in a smaller jurisdiction and witnessed a guy got into a fight with his wife. She started the thing, was beating him on the chest and he pushed her off. She tripped and fell backwards, hitting her head and cutting it open. Guess what? He had been initially charged with a felony, despite the fact I witnessed the entire thing, gave a report stating he was just defending himself, and they still charged him.

The entire case wound up being dropped, but nonetheless it didn't stop them from making a mountain out of a molehill. And where I lived, it was well known that if that type of situation went to the authorities, as a male you were screwed.

There have to be certain circumstances involved as defined by state statutes before someone can be charged with a felony. If someone has prior DV convictions or the victim was pregnant, that can bump it up to a felony regardless of how serious the harm is. I've seen guys get charged with felonies in rather minor incidents because the guy had 2 or 3 priors on his record. I've also seen guys get charged with a felony because their wives were pregnant at the time. Likewise, I've seen guys get a misdemeanor even when there was substantial bruising present because it was a first offense. The police have to have probable cause that the elements of a felony exist. Otherwise they'll never get it past the grand jury.

[Screwball]

No one really asked you, though.

About that I care very little. Very, very little.

[Brutus]

About that I care very little. Very, very little.

That's really evident by your tone. Really very, very evident. Do you often stick your nose in things that don't involve you?

[Chip R]

You guys want to take it private?

[WVRed]

I think the title should be changed to "Jay Mariotti has a girlfriend". I don't know which of the two would be more newsworthy, the arrest or that he actually has someone of the feminine gender who can put up with him.

[reds44]

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Amazing. You ever notice how nobody beats the hell out of their woman in the middle of the day?

Alcohol makes you do stupid stuff.

[New York Red]

I think the title should be changed to "Jay Mariotti has a girlfriend". I don't know which of the two would be more newsworthy, the arrest or that he actually has someone of the feminine gender who can put up with him.
LOL ... I was thinking the same thing. Touche'. :beerme:

[Chip R]

I think the title should be changed to "Jay Mariotti has a girlfriend". I don't know which of the two would be more newsworthy, the arrest or that he actually has someone of either gender who can put up with him.

Fixed.

[Caveat Emperor]

There are a lot of over-zealous prosecutors out there that will initially charge someone with a felony in hopes of inducing a plea bargain for a lesser misdemeanor charge. That's extremely common.

That he was initially charged with a felony tells us very little. Very, very little.

It tells us that he probably did something that fits the criteria for felony DV. Usually it's pretty straight forward on whether or not a DV is a felony. The aggravating circumstances vary from state to state, but they're usually pretty cut and dry. Did he have a prior conviction? Did he cause serious physical harm (rule of thumb: if hospitalization of the victim was necessary, there's usually PC for serious harm)? Did he have a deadly weapon that he used? Was the victim pregnant at the time? Etc. The hardest part of proving a DV usually isn't the aggravating felony factors, it's the underlying conduct itself.

BTW -- WMR is right on this. Proseuctors don't charge cases, the police arrest and the case is taken by the prosecutor for presentation to the grand jury. The grand jurors decide whether or not charges are brought and what those charges should be. Ultimately, grand jurors can decide to do whatever they want. Plenty of cases that could be felonies (thefts over $500, shoplifting where the clerk gets punched that could be a robbery) get sent back for prosecution as misdemeanors.

Of course, DV is a charge that has a lot of political charge to it. It generally doesn't go over well in the public when the police or the prosecutors are perceived as "soft" on domestic violence cases in general.

[improbus]

I try not to get caught up in the whole "gotcha" mentality, because I end up feeling like I'm being a "Mariotti 2.0". However, I do hope this means that we have one less LCD (Lowest Common Denominator) Sports Writer.

BTW, Mariotti always reminded me of Max Mercy, Robert Duvall's character from The Natural.

[Brutus]

It tells us that he probably did something that fits the criteria for felony DV. Usually it's pretty straight forward on whether or not a DV is a felony. The aggravating circumstances vary from state to state, but they're usually pretty cut and dry. Did he have a prior conviction? Did he cause serious physical harm (rule of thumb: if hospitalization of the victim was necessary, there's usually PC for serious harm)? Did he have a deadly weapon that he used? Was the victim pregnant at the time? Etc. The hardest part of proving a DV usually isn't the aggravating felony factors, it's the underlying conduct itself.

BTW -- WMR is right on this. Proseuctors don't charge cases, the police arrest and the case is taken by the prosecutor for presentation to the grand jury. The grand jurors decide whether or not charges are brought and what those charges should be. Ultimately, grand jurors can decide to do whatever they want. Plenty of cases that could be felonies (thefts over $500, shoplifting where the clerk gets punched that could be a robbery) get sent back for prosecution as misdemeanors.

Of course, DV is a charge that has a lot of political charge to it. It generally doesn't go over well in the public when the police or the prosecutors are perceived as "soft" on domestic violence cases in general.

The prosecutor has every right in the world to ammend, add or subtract to the intitial charges before taking anything to a grand jury, though. Yes, grand juries can have the final say, but you're diminishing the discretion of a prosecutor to push for charges. Why do you think it's called "prosecutorial discretion?" The police may book someone on a charge, by the prosecutor has the final say of what charges to seek an indictment on.

[Caveat Emperor]

The prosecutor has every right in the world to ammend, add or subtract to the intitial charges before taking anything to a grand jury, though. Yes, grand juries can have the final say, but you're diminishing the discretion of a prosecutor to push for charges. Why do you think it's called "prosecutorial discretion?" The police may book someone on a charge, by the prosecutor has the final say of what charges to seek an indictment on.

It's been my experience that the push is usually downward to prevent the grand jury from indicting to the fullest extent of the law on cases that aren't worth the resources of a common pleas court matter.

Most prosecutors or DAs in major metro areas handle thousands of cases per year. The overwhelming majority of them are just paperwork pushing matters. Police officers arrests, facts are presented to the grand jury, grand jury issues a bill. Due to rapid indictment laws, there usually isn't time for the prosecutors to become invested in cases beyond "are the elements here?" and "did the right officer get notified for grand jury?"

[Brutus]

Mariotti is being charged with seven misdemeanors after the DA's office concluded there is not enough evidence to pursue a felony.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=5569202

[GIDP]

He stole her purse. What a surprise.

[Sea Ray]

This is probably the best thing about this whole story:


ESPN spokesman Josh Krulewitz said, "We have no plans to use him [Mariotti] at this time."

:clap:

[mlh1981]

What an embarrassment to my Alma Mater, Ohio University.

[RFS62]

What an embarrassment to my Alma Mater, Ohio University.



No offense, but he was already that before the arrest, IMO.