9/3/10 Reds at Cards

[Homer Bailey]

Stubbs CF
Phillips 2B
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Gomes LF
Hanigan C
Heisey RF
Janish SS
Arroyo P

[OesterPoster]

Can't wait to hear the response when BP bats in the 1st inning. They should put one of those decibel meters on the screen. :)

[Cedric]

Dusty knows the player attitude more than most. He knows that Phillips HAD to play after what he has said this year.

Love it.

[Ghosts of 1990]

yea but, no bruce... and no word on him either

[Tornon]

Why did we activate OC if he isn't starting?

[Ron Madden]

yea but, no bruce... and no word on him either


Lefty on the mound for the Cardinals tonight, Jay will most likely play tomorrow.

[Ghosts of 1990]

Lefty on the mound for the Cardinals tonight, Jay will most likely play tomorrow.

My bad, had my Cards starters mixed up. Thought Garcia was going tomorrow and Wainwright today.

[hebroncougar]

Lefty on the mound for the Cardinals tonight, Jay will most likely play tomorrow.

Was there an actual reason given? Considering he crushed lefties last week?

[Ron Madden]

Was there an actual reason given? Considering he crushed lefties last week?

No, I was just giving my opinion. I guess Dusty figures with a Lefty going tonight it wouldn't hurt to give Jay one more day.

[Homer Bailey]

I agree, RM.

[medford]

Tom & the creeper indicated that was the plan on Wednesday night during the broadcast. I don't know if it was speculation, but they mentioned it two different times which tells me that they probably heard it directly from either Dusty or Bruce.

I wonder if this is a sign that Janish is going to hold down the SS job thru the end of the year over OCab, or if Dusty's just giving OCab another day off, or perhaps Janish has done well vs Garcia.

[Big Klu]

Why did we activate OC if he isn't starting?

Additional depth. Also, it allows Orlando to get into the flow of being an active player without being thrown in the deep end of the pool. Dusty likes to bring players back gradually.

[oneupper]

Janish is 1 for 13 vs. the Cardinals this year.
OCab a bit better 12 for 50.

[Homer Bailey]

Bruce is 1 for 7 against Garcia, FWIW.

[PuffyPig]

Why did we activate OC if he isn't starting?

Why wouldn't he be?

Maloney was brought up and he's not starting.

Better still, why would you want OC starting?

[Ghosts of 1990]

Johnny Cuetos uncle was shot In his home in the Dominican republic a source tells me.

[Hap]

I very much like Hanigan in the six hole.

[Ron Madden]

I like the fact that Dusty is capable of putting the SS in the eight hole, hope he can do that when Cabrera starts. ;)

[Homer Bailey]

Johnny Cuetos uncle was shot In his home in the Dominican republic a source tells me.

Some guy on Twitter?

[Redsfan320]

Johnny Cuetos uncle was shot In his home in the Dominican republic a source tells me.

Is this source trustworthy??

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[Homer Bailey]

http://twitter.com/brandonsosna


@DiamondHoggers Cuetos uncle was shot in his home in the Dominican.

He has 34 followers. I'm not saying he's wrong, but I'm not passing judgment yet.

[Ghosts of 1990]

He has been right on stuff before, knows Kremchecks son real well.

[Tornon]

Why wouldn't he be?

Maloney was brought up and he's not starting.

Better still, why would you want OC starting?


I don't really, I was just curious. It seemed odd, because I was under the assumption Dusty had OC tagged as the starting SS

[Tornon]

http://twitter.com/brandonsosna


He has 34 followers. I'm not saying he's wrong, but I'm not passing judgment yet.

I heard (from someone that may have got the info from the same place) that that's why Johnny isn't joining the team in St. Louis

[Redsfan320]

Schumaker 4
Jay 9
Pujols 3
Holliday 7
Rasmus 8
Molina 2
Feliz 5
Ryan 6
Garcia 1

vs. BA

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[Redsfan320]

No PBP for me tonight.

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[aubashbrother]

nm

[blumj]

I don't really, I was just curious. It seemed odd, because I was under the assumption Dusty had OC tagged as the starting SS

If he's done with rehab games, there's no reason once it's Sept. not to activate him. Even if he isn't even there, he's already taking up the roster spot.

[Redsfan320]

KEELS!!! FOR THE STINKING CARDS SERIES, THEY GIVE US KEELS. :cry::angry:

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[mbgrayson]

KEELS!!! FOR THE STINKING CARDS SERIES, THEY GIVE US KEELS. :cry::angry:

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Just play the radio if you don't like Keels....

[Redsfan320]

Just play the radio if you don't like Keels....
This is exactly what I'll do... was hoping for Thom though.

BTW, the umpiring crew is the same as for the last series, just FYI.

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[Reds Fanatic]

KEELS!!! FOR THE STINKING CARDS SERIES, THEY GIVE US KEELS. :cry::angry:

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Tomorrow we won't have Keels with Fox covering the game.

[Redsfan320]

No, RF, tomorrow it'll be worse. We'll have Joe Buck and Tim McCarver, 2 of the worst broadcasters, and also biggest Cardinal fans, that ever lived.

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[_Sir_Charles_]

Johnny Cuetos uncle was shot In his home in the Dominican republic a source tells me.

oh my gosh. That's horrible. I feel bad for Johnny. Our prayers go out to you and your family Johnny.

[Tornon]

If he's done with rehab games, there's no reason once it's Sept. not to activate him. Even if he isn't even there, he's already taking up the roster spot.

That's the thing, once he was done with his rehab & ready to play I was sure Dusty would have him back in the lineup

[_Sir_Charles_]

This is exactly what I'll do... was hoping for Thom though.

BTW, the umpiring crew is the same as for the last series, just FYI.

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FWIW, the game is televised on the MLB network tonight too. I don't know if they'll use the local announcers though. I doubt it.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dusty says Cabrera will start tomorrow. He always likes to give players an extra day off when they are ready but he will start tomorrow.

[Tornon]

FWIW, the game is televised on the MLB network tonight too. I don't know if they'll use the local announcers though. I doubt it.

They're using the Braves local announcers for the game on MLB network here, so I think they will for the Reds game as well

[_Sir_Charles_]

Cards announcers for the mlb network game.

*mute pressed, WLW tuned in* :O)

[dsmith421]

Keels starts the day off by stating that Stubbs hasn't hit leadoff in a while.

Does he pay any attention to anything? Stubbs led off ON WEDNESDAY, i.e., the last game the Reds played.

[_Sir_Charles_]

And this game is underway.

Surprising. Gameday audio is ahead of the video on mlb network.

[Reds Fanatic]

Stubbs flies out to left.

[_Sir_Charles_]

LOL. Fans chanting for Bruce I think. :O)

[Reds Fanatic]

no tapping of the shin guards this time.

[CrackerJack]

WLWT reporting Cueto went home and "should" be back for his start vs Col on Tuesday.

[Tornon]

Quick question.. do we think Rolen gets booed?

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips strikes out swinging.

[_Sir_Charles_]

K swinging. Cards fans standing ovation.

[mbgrayson]

Quick question.. do we think Rolen gets booed?

Nope.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Votto K's.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto strikes out swinging. 0-0 mid 1st.

[sabometrics]

Serve em up some Sloppy Joes Bronson! They can't hit it!

[Mario-Rijo]

Not alot of fastballs being thrown to our guys, not surprising I guess we are a fastball hitting bunch.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Both Casey & Larkin have said that if the Cards don't win tonight...their season is over. The seem to feel that a sweep is an absolute necessity for them. I'm not sure I disagree.

[Reds Fanatic]

Schumaker lines a single to right.

[dsmith421]

If the Cardinals' scrappy white guys had real names rather than being called Skip and Colby I'd hate them less I think.

[kbrake]

Both Casey & Larkin have said that if the Cards don't win tonight...their season is over. The seem to feel that a sweep is an absolute necessity for them. I'm not sure I disagree.

I agree with them. They're alright with Carpenter and Wainwright next 2 days but they need this. They have to sweep, IMO.

[dsmith421]

That didn't take long.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Not exactly a perfect beginning. 1-0 cards.

Heisey misplays it in the corner. I'm sure it'll be ruled a triple instead of a double with an error

[Reds Fanatic]

Jay triples down the right field line. 1-0 Cards.

[Tornon]

Albert looks weird shaved

[membengal]

That's the best line-up Larussa has been bothered to put together since they last left Cincy.

It is to the Cardinals shame that they can't be bothered to play this hard against teams not from Cincy.

[corkedbat]

2-0 cards - Pujols ain't leavin a guy on third w/ no outs

[edabbs44]

Jay triples down the right field line. 1-0 Cards.

Looked like a potential 2b + error, not a good camera shot on MLB. But Heisey looked to have misplayed it.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Looked like a potential 2b + error, not a good camera shot on MLB. But Heisey looked to have misplayed it.

I thought so too.

[Reds Fanatic]

Pujols sac fly to left. 2-0 Cards.

[_Sir_Charles_]

sac fly to left. 2-0 cards.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Plunked him.

Right on the wrist. Ouch.

[REDSEER]

Oh boy. I'm down for more brawling.

[Reds Fanatic]

Holliday hit by the pitch on the hand.

[kbrake]

Had him 0-2 this is a disaster.

[Tornon]

Well.. Joey or Scott better get ready for one

[REDSEER]

Think Joey's temper would flare if they plunk him?

I would hope not.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Well.. Joey or Scott better get ready for one

I doubt it. Not a chance that was intentional and the Cards know it too.

[kbrake]

Think Joey's temper would flare if they plunk him?

I would hope not.

I wouldn't think so.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rasmus flies out to center. 2 outs.

[kbrake]

I doubt it. Not a chance that was intentional and the Cards know it too.

Won't matter for LaRussa. He'll make it out like it was intentional even though it was obvious to everyone that it wasn't.

[Tornon]

I doubt it. Not a chance that was intentional and the Cards know it too.

This is Tony LaRussa you're talking about here

[OldRightHander]

Take 1 out 3 and that's still a 7 game lead. Cards have to sweep.

[CTA513]

Arroyo was channeling his inner Drew Storen on that HBP.

[backbencher]

Had him 0-2 this is a disaster.

If this is what you call a "disaster," what word do you use for actual bad things, like hurricanes or the Pirates' season?

[_Sir_Charles_]

This is Tony LaRussa you're talking about here

I don't like him either, but he's not an idiot either.

[Reds Fanatic]

Molina flies out to center. 2-0 Cards after 1.

[_Sir_Charles_]

2-0 Cards after 1

[kbrake]

If this is what you call a "disaster," what word do you use for actual bad things, like hurricanes or the Pirates' season?

Never experienced a hurricane. A Pirates season I've handled that for a decade and I call that a major disaster.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Take 1 out 3 and that's still a 7 game lead. Cards have to sweep.

I sure hope that's not what the Reds are thinking. They should be holding to the mindset of winning every series. I want 2 of 3. Sweep is gravy...but take the series.

[BCubb2003]

No game ever continues at the pace set in the first inning.

[Brutus]

I doubt it. Not a chance that was intentional and the Cards know it too.

I wouldn't be so sure. For as much spouting as the Cardinals did about all the previous incidents, I actually think it was a puposeful message. I believe the Reds were sending out a signal they're not backing down.

[_Sir_Charles_]

No game ever continues at the pace set in the first inning.

I sure hope not. 18-0 would be beyond depressing. :O)

[dsmith421]

I sure hope that's not what the Reds are thinking. They should be holding to the mindset of winning every series. I want 2 of 3. Sweep is gravy...but take the series.

Both Rolen and Arroyo's quotes in the media today made it almost sound like the team is resigned to being swept. It was really bizarre.

[corkedbat]

Looks like everyone is taking a strike tonight.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rolen infield hit up the middle.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Both Rolen and Arroyo's quotes in the media today made it almost sound like the team is resigned to being swept. It was really bizarre.

Missed those. Linkage?

[REDSEER]

Weird shift on Rolen there....allows the infield single

[_Sir_Charles_]

6-4-3

[Reds Fanatic]

Gomes grounds into a 6-4-3 DP on the first pitch.

[REDSEER]

Really wish we had other options.

[OldRightHander]

I sure hope that's not what the Reds are thinking. They should be holding to the mindset of winning every series. I want 2 of 3. Sweep is gravy...but take the series.

That's what I'm thinking too. Just trying to be the glass half full guy.

Cards were up 2 runs in their last game too.

[Mario-Rijo]

Really wish we had other options.

Seriously, I'd put Yonder out there at this point defense be damned.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hanigan flies out to right. 2-0 Cards mid 2nd.

[_Sir_Charles_]

6 up 6 down.

[dsmith421]

Missed those. Linkage?

Rolen's was on TV, so I don't have it. Arroyo said this:


"We've got a bigger lead than we could have ever asked for at this point in the season," pitcher Bronson Arroyo said. "We're exactly where we wanted to be. You just go in there and play the games.

"Worst-case scenario, we leave up five games. We don't want that to happen. But we're winding down. There are only 20-some games left. Their margin for error becomes less and less."

Now, obviously you can interpret that different ways.

[CTA513]

2 scoreless innings on 20 pitches for Garcia.

[mbgrayson]

I think they are going out of their way not to give the Cards any bulletin board material this time...

[_Sir_Charles_]

Rolen's was on TV, so I don't have it. Arroyo said this:



Now, obviously you can interpret that different ways.

Thanks for that. Brutal honesty as usual from Bronson. He's a hard guy NOT to like. It's so refreshing in today's game.

[Reds Fanatic]

Feliz flies out to the track in center.

[Brutus]

Rolen's was on TV, so I don't have it. Arroyo said this:



Now, obviously you can interpret that different ways.

I don't see any resignation in that statement. I see simply a matter-of-fact truth. Worst-case scenario they're still up 5 games. It just reinforces the perspective that they don't need to treat this series with any dire importance... at least any more than another series. The games all count equally right now.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ryan singles to left.

[REDSEER]

Bronson really seems to be laying them in there tonight....not too much movement (compared to usual)

[_Sir_Charles_]

They're putting VERY solid wood on Bronson's stuff.

[NJReds]

This is a team that couldn't score against the Astros?

[Reds Fanatic]

Garcia doubles over Votto who was drawn in for the bunt.

[edabbs44]

They were saving it up for this series.

[dsmith421]

As Al Swearengen would say, we look flatter than hammered poo. Except he wouldn't say poo.

[CTA513]

Arroyos pulling a Harang tonight.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Bronson seems to be missing his locations pretty badly thus far. Very few steady mitts from hanny.

[corkedbat]

Winng out of three would be a very bad result for the Cards. Losing two out of three should be consider the same way for the Reds too. While leaving with a five-fame lead would not be disasterous, they need to make a statment going into the stretch - especially after the sweep a few weeks ago in your own crib.

Bronson needs to stop the bleeding now.

[Reds Fanatic]

Schumaker grounds out to 2nd. 3-0 Cards. Runner on 3rd.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Brandon flexing his hand after that.

[REDSEER]

Nice play Paul. We really need to answer soon.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice play by Janish. 3-0 Cards after 2.

[Brutus]

This one is over. No biggie. Down to 7 games. Fight on tomorrow.

[_Sir_Charles_]

This one is over. No biggie. Down to 7 games. Fight on tomorrow.

Oh come ON! You've GOT to be kidding me? The way this team has refused to lay down all season long? For shame Brutus.

[dsmith421]

I realize we're comfortably ahead in the division and that's what matters, I get it intellectually. Emotionally, letting this bunch of crybabies just jump all over us every time we play a big series against them drives me crazy.

[Red in Chicago]

This one is over. No biggie. Down to 7 games. Fight on tomorrow.

It's the 3rd inning and you're waiving the white flag already

[_Sir_Charles_]

Has anybody heard an update on Jay yet?

[kbrake]

This one is over. No biggie. Down to 7 games. Fight on tomorrow.

Man, I thought I was taking the start of this poorly hahaha hang in there big guy.

[REDSEER]

I realize we're comfortably ahead in the division and that's what matters, I get it intellectually. Emotionally, letting this bunch of crybabies just jump all over us every time we play a big series against them drives me crazy.

This sums up my thoughts as well. Just drives me crazy how their bats magically awaken when they see Cincinnati on the front of the opposing team's uniforms.

[Phhhl]

Big lead or not, if the Reds mail it in this series and carry that malaise into Colorodo, we could find ourself back in a dogfight in a week's time. They need to put the boot to their throats if they want to be champs.

[kbrake]

I realize we're comfortably ahead in the division and that's what matters, I get it intellectually. Emotionally, letting this bunch of crybabies just jump all over us every time we play a big series against them drives me crazy.

Sums up my frustration perfectly.

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey flies out to center.

[Reds Fanatic]

Has anybody heard an update on Jay yet?

Side still hurting probably not available at all tonight.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2010/09/03/notes-on-bruce-cueto-cabrera/

[BCubb2003]

The pace has already dropped from 18-0 to 13.5 to 0, so we're gaining ground.

[dsmith421]

3-1.

[Brutus]

It's the 3rd inning and you're waiving the white flag already

This team's ability to fight back aside, surely you've watched these St. Louis games this year too, yes? For whatever reason, this team is snake-bitten against St. Louis.

[blumj]

This one is over. No biggie. Down to 7 games. Fight on tomorrow.

You have to use those smiley things or the younger people don't get it.

[_Sir_Charles_]

:jump: JANISH!

[Reds Fanatic]

Janish homers to left center! 3-1 Cards.

[REDSEER]

Nicely done. Let's get it going now.

[Tornon]

This team's ability to fight back aside, surely you've watched these St. Louis games this year too, yes? For whatever reason, this team is snake-bitten against St. Louis.

Well what if we end up winning?

[corkedbat]

Maybe SS should be hitting 2nd!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Who wanted Cabrera to start tonight? :O)

[Brutus]

Well what if we end up winning?

Then we'll party like it's 1999, no pun intended.

:)

[kbrake]

Who wanted Cabrera to start tonight? :O)

I'm ducking...

[Reds Fanatic]

Arroyo strikes out looking.

[mbgrayson]

Janish isn't ready to sit out of the starting lineup just yet...lol.

[OldRightHander]

Never count this team out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Infield hit for Stubbs.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nubber by Stubbs....Garcia didn't have a chance...juggle or not.

[dsmith421]

Nothing would make me happier than to see Phillips hit a home run and then take about five minutes circling the bases.

[corkedbat]

Good deal! Stubbs steals second - Brandon singles him in and Joey goes yard

[REDSEER]

Nothing would make me happier than to see Phillips hit a home run and then take about five minutes circling the bases.

This.

[OldRightHander]

Phillips needs to go yard.

[Tornon]

Were they chanting to throw the foul ball back?

[_Sir_Charles_]

No, Phillips needs to put together a solid at bat. Nothing more, nothing less. Don't change your approach because the fans are booing.

[NJReds]

Were they chanting to throw the foul ball back?

Yes.

[edabbs44]

Weirdly disturbing stat of the night: Heisey now has 66 PAs this season that would qualify as his 1st 2 PAs of a game vs a SP. He has 10 total bases in those 66 PAs. And is now hitting under .100 in his first PA.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Threw the foul ball back out.

[dsmith421]

Best fans in baseball, ladies and gentlemen.

Swine.

[kbrake]

Best fans in baseball.

[Tornon]

Even the Cardinal announcers are on them

[_Sir_Charles_]

Brandon grounds out to third.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips grounds out to 3rd. 3-1 Cards mid 3rd.

[REDSEER]

The Cardinals announcers are treating every Phillips AB like the 27th out of game 7.

[CTA513]

Threw the foul ball back out.

The Cardinals should toss the fan out.

[NJReds]

I don't see the big deal in the way the fans are acting. He ripped their team. They're booing him, not throwing batteries?

[corkedbat]

Even the Cardinal announcers are on them

The Stadiums not called "Busch" just cause it's named after Augie

[Phhhl]

The Cardinals announcers are treating every Phillips AB like the 27th out of game 7.

When a team is buried in the standings, fans and announcers have to find ways to amuse themselves.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Best fans in baseball, ladies and gentlemen.

Swine.

Not sure I agree with this. They're supporting and rooting for THEIR team. They're rooting against and booing a guy they feel insulted their team. If nothing else, that stadium sure does look pretty full.

From my personal experience, Cards fans seem pretty knowledgable and respectful of opposing players & fans. Cubs fans...not so much.

[kbrake]

I don't see the big deal in the way the fans are acting. He ripped their team. They're booing him, not throwing batteries?

I'm not super offended I just get tired of the "best fans in baseball" crap.

[corkedbat]

Nice way to start back, now Bronson needs to do some work and keep them of the board for a few innings.

[dsmith421]

Not sure I agree with this. They're supporting and rooting for THEIR team. They're rooting against and booing a guy they feel insulted their team. If nothing else, that stadium sure does look pretty full.

Throwing the ball back into the infield is absolute clown behavior and shouldn't be tolerated. Heck, I think the Chicago thing is stupid and dangerous and ought to be stopped. Booing is fine.

[NJReds]

They also panned the crowd. There's a fair number of Reds fans and I don't see fights going on our anything. Looks like a pretty calm group to me.

[Reds Fanatic]

Pujols grounds out to 1st.

[Tornon]

They also panned the crowd. There's a fair number of Reds fans and I don't see fights going on our anything. Looks like a pretty calm group to me.

I'm surprised they haven't thrown the Reds fans onto the field yet

[OldXOhio]

Phillips grounds out to 3rd. 3-1 Cards mid 3rd.

Brandon continues to underwelm the cards

[Reds Fanatic]

Whew. Holliday flies out to the track in left.

[REDSEER]

Big time hanger there from Arroyo....

[NJReds]

I'm surprised they haven't thrown the Reds fans onto the field yet

Really? Is it that bad what they're doing? If someone ripped the Reds like Brandon ripped the Cards, wouldn't GABP act similarly?

[NJReds]

Whew. Holliday flies out to the track in left.

That was close.

[mbgrayson]

The Cardinals should toss the fan out.

I agree with this. If they allow every foul ball to be thrown back onto the field, it will really slow things down. Even every BP foul....

[corkedbat]

Really? Is it that bad what they're doing? If someone ripped the Reds like Brandon ripped the Cards, wouldn't GABP act similarly?

But it's true about the Cards! :D

[NJReds]

I agree with this. If they allow every foul ball to be thrown back onto the field, it will really slow things down. Even every BP foul....

I think the whole "throw it back" thing is overdone, anyway. HR's included.

[schroomytunes]

Bronson has done nothing against the cards since his outburst!! just sayin

[Always Red]

I agree with this. If they allow every foul ball to be thrown back onto the field, it will really slow things down. Even every BP foul....

We'd be doing the same thing here, were the situation reversed.

[Phhhl]

I agree with this. If they allow every foul ball to be thrown back onto the field, it will really slow things down. Even every BP foul....

Let them do it. They'll only be hurting their own pitcher.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rasmus strikes out looking. 3-1 Cards after 3.

[Tornon]

Bronson has done nothing against the cards since his outburst!! just sayin

When was his outburst?

[NJReds]

But it's true about the Cards! :D

Well that's true.

[BCubb2003]

Mark Sheldon says the fan was ejected.

[schroomytunes]

sorry brandon!!!!

[Brutus]

Let them do it. They'll only be hurting their own pitcher.

WWCD

What would Carpenter do?

[mbgrayson]

Mark Sheldon says the fan was ejected.

Sweet! One less jerk at the game....

[Tornon]

WWCD

What would Carpenter do?

My guess is he'd be mad at Brendan Ryan

[mbgrayson]

WWCD

What would Carpenter do?

He'd be complaining that his balls were too slippery....

[schroomytunes]

3-1....we need to drop the hammer this inning and take the crowd out of it!!!

[Always Red]

WWCD

What would Carpenter do?

Carpenter would ***** at the grounds crew for allowing the ball to reach the field.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto grounds out to 2nd.

[corkedbat]

He'd be complaining that his balls were too slippery....

He should use sandpaper on them then

[Tony Cloninger]

I realize we're comfortably ahead in the division and that's what matters, I get it intellectually. Emotionally, letting this bunch of crybabies just jump all over us every time we play a big series against them drives me crazy.

I am with you. Quit trying to pull this guy and go the other way.......and quit acting like this race is over.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Throwing the ball back into the infield is absolute clown behavior and shouldn't be tolerated. Heck, I think the Chicago thing is stupid and dangerous and ought to be stopped. Booing is fine.

This I agree with.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rolen walks

[CTA513]

WWCD

What would Carpenter do?

He would get the ball and toss it towards the Reds dugout and then blame Phillips and the Reds after the game for it.

:D

[Brutus]

DP lane

[REDSEER]

Gomes trying to hit the ball out of the stadium

[Brutus]

He would get the ball and toss it towards the Reds dugout and then blame Phillips and the Reds after the game for it.

:D

All true!

[Tornon]

DP lane

Gomes already had his grounder for the week

[Reds Fanatic]

Gomes doubles off the wall in left center. Gomes is thrown out at 3rd. 3-2 Cards.

[NJReds]

Nice hit by Gomes ... bad baserunning.

[Tornon]

I'm okay with that from Jonny

[WVRedsFan]

What has happened to the base running? Made no sense to go to third.

[REDSEER]

And that is a bit frustrating. Our baserunning has been lacking lately.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hanigan singles to left.

[REDSEER]

And of course Hanigan singles...

[dsmith421]

Gomes giveth and taketh away, sometimes within 8 seconds.

[Tornon]

What has happened to the base running? Made no sense to go to third.

It made some sense.. it'd be alot easier for Hanigan to score him

[mbgrayson]

We'd be tied if Gomes held at 2nd...

[Phhhl]

What has happened to the base running? Made no sense to go to third.

He obviously thought he needed to draw the throw away from the plate. But, Rolen was scoring anyway. Bad running.

[corkedbat]

Won't complain about the aggression - yes I will. Woulda tied the game!

[WVRedsFan]

I'm okay with that from JonnyWhy? That would have been the tying run with Hanigan's hit. Just stupid IMHO.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Kinda hard to get too mad at Gomes there. He did knock in the run and he was running aggressively. Was Berry waving him over?

[REDSEER]

Wow...low strike there to Heisey. He didn't like it.

[Tornon]

Why? That would have been the tying run with Hanigan's hit. Just stupid IMHO.

Keep the aggression up, you have a much better chance of scoring with a runner at 3rd & 1 out rather than a runner at 2nd & 1 out

[dsmith421]

That may be one of those things that you deal with from Gomes.

It strikes me that if we get Gomes to engage his brain we may not like the results.

[Reds4Life]

You can tell Chris Welsh hates LaRussa. He's ripping on him everytime he gets the chance tonight.

Love it.

[NJReds]

Kinda hard to get too mad at Gomes there. He did knock in the run and he was running aggressively. Was Berry waving him over?

Berry was waiving Rolen home. Gomes has to recognize that the low throw could be cut off. The play was in front of him.

[Brutus]

What has happened to the base running? Made no sense to go to third.

It actually makes perfect sense. With one out, he would be in position to score on a flyball.

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey strikes out swinging. 3-2 Cards mid 4th.

[kaldaniels]

It actually makes perfect sense. With one out, he would be in position to score on a flyball.

Agreed.

[schroomytunes]

Heisey's killing us...Bruce we need ya buddy!

[WVRedsFan]

It actually makes perfect sense. With one out, he would be in position to score on a flyball.Rally killer. There is something to be said for aggression, but something else for stupid aggression.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Berry was waiving Rolen home. Gomes has to recognize that the low throw could be cut off. The play was in front of him.

Thanks. I wasn't looking at Berry.

[corkedbat]

Need another scorless inning. If we can make it to the seventh and have it tied or take the lead, I'll like our chances in a battle of bullpens.

[Brutus]

Rally killer. There is something to be said for aggression, but something else for stupid aggression.

By my experience, around here, it's only stupid aggression if it doesn't work.

[Reds Fanatic]

Molina flies out to right. 1 out.

[_Sir_Charles_]

We've been aggressive on the base paths all season. No reason to stop now. Sometimes it comes back and bites you.

[Reds Fanatic]

Feliz grounds out to short. 2 outs.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Grounder to short. Quick 2 outs there.

I'd love to see Bronson settle in for a nice long game.

[WVRedsFan]

By my experience, around here, it's only stupid aggression if it doesn't work.Always, but down 3-1 you might want to err on the side of caution--or so I was taught playing as a kid. Making the second out is never cool

[kbrake]

By my experience, around here, it's only stupid aggression if it doesn't work.

Exactly going to have to take some bad with all the good they've done this year. Not saying I didn't flip out when he got thrown out but I'm over it.

[schroomytunes]

I like our chances this game.....come on guys

[Brutus]

Always, but down 3-1 you might want to err on the side of caution--or so I was taught playing as a kid. Making the second out is never cool

This team is what it is becuase it doesn't err on the side of caution. It's made its living by doing exactly what Gomes just did last inning. Sometimes you get a hold of fate, sometimes fate gets a hold of you.

If you insert 'caution' into the approach, it changes what the makeup of the team is all about. Why do that when it's worked a lot more than not?

[dsmith421]

I cannot believe how good Welsh as an analyst has become the last two years. It's astounding. It's like the follicles of his mustache contained every meathead/baseball guy cliche he'd ever learned. His lip stripped bare, he is free of old prejudices.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Always, but down 3-1 you might want to err on the side of caution--or so I was taught playing as a kid. Making the second out is never cool

I see your point, but it's VERY hard to be aggressive if you're erring on the side of caution regardless of the situation. The Reds forced the Cards to make the play and they did.

[edabbs44]

Why? That would have been the tying run with Hanigan's hit. Just stupid IMHO.

Pet peeve of mine...Hanigan wouldn't have definitely gotten a hit there if Gomes was on 2nd. Would have been a completely different AB.

Carry on.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ryan flies out to center. 3-2 Cards after 4.

[mbgrayson]

After 4 innings, Cards 3, Reds 2.

Arroyo at 55 pitches, 40 strikes.
Garcia at 58 pitches, 39 strikes.

[_Sir_Charles_]

1-2-3 Bronson. We've seen this before from Bronson. Rocked early...settles in and pitches exceedingly well.

[corkedbat]

Good deal 1-2-3. With a chance for another 1-2-3 before they get to Pujols again.

[Always Red]

I cannot believe how good Welsh as an analyst has become the last two years. It's astounding. It's like the follicles of his mustache contained every meathead/baseball guy cliche he'd ever learned. His lip stripped bare, he is free of old prejudices.

Quite poetic! :thumbup:

Maybe being free of GG (whom I loved as an announcer) has set Chris free?