9/11 Reds vs. Pirates--Heisey Scratched, Cairo in RF

[reds44]

Phillips 2B
Cabrera SS
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Gomes LF
Hernandez C
Stubbs CF
Cairo RF
Edinson Volquez P

[Redsfan320]

Oh my gosh. Does this mean we're down to 2 HEALTHY OFers?? Remember the play at 1st last night!

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[Redsfan320]

MODS: Please MERGE this thread with the other thread for TODAY'S GAME. THANKS

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[alloverjr]

Oh my gosh. Does this mean we're down to 2 HEALTHY OFers?? Remember the play at 1st last night!

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Offensive upgrade minus the bunt.

[Degenerate39]

Offensive upgrade minus the bunt.

Extremely major right field down grade.

[reds44]

So why did we activate Edmonds if he can't play?

[RedsMan3203]

So why did we activate Edmonds if he can't play?

Doesn't matter, you got your wish of Cario in the OF. :p:

[PuffyPig]

So why did we activate Edmonds if he can't play?

Maybe he can field but not bat. Or vice versa.

[jojo]

I find myself chomping at the bit to hit against Morton. The Reds might get too healthy today.... All things in moderation boys...

[SirFelixCat]

So why did we activate Edmonds if he can't play?

Seriously? The obvious answer is coming back into the booth tonight!:D

[Degenerate39]

Glad they didnt get to show the Rose celebration. Thanks college football

[mbgrayson]

Glad they didnt get to show the Rose celebration. Thanks college football

Not happy about this. I wanted to watch it....

[Chip R]

I'm sure it will be available to watch somewhere in the very near future.

[mbgrayson]

The Pittsburgh TV feed just showed a quick summary.

[RedsMan3203]

Its going to be a Grande night!

[RedsMan3203]

Still no HD feed on DirecTV here in Columbus....

[mbgrayson]

Reds wearing white hats with red bills and a red, white, blue 'C'.

[mbgrayson]

McCutchen pops out to short.

[Chip R]

Reds wearing white hats with red bills and a red, white, blue 'C'.

I was gonna ask but I get it.

[Chip R]

Still no HD feed on DirecTV here in Columbus....

Ditto

[mbgrayson]

I have HD with the Pirates feed on 659 DirecTV.

[mbgrayson]

Ohio State wins 36-24.

[Ron Madden]

Janish makes that play.

[mbgrayson]

OCab lets Tabata single to center off his glove. Should be E-6.

[RedsMan3203]

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11940939


There some video of Rose tonight.

[mbgrayson]

Walker bounces to Phillips, Tabata goes to 2nd.

[Chip R]

Alvaraz pops to Stubbs. End of inning.

[mbgrayson]

EV walks Jones on 4, then Alvarez pops out to Stubbs in shallow center.

[Raisor]

I will not be doing play by play again tonight.

[RedsMan3203]

I now have the Nascar HotPass preview showing up on my DirecTV HD.

[Raisor]

Chat is open for making fun of Chip.

[mbgrayson]

Morton has given up 14 HRs in a little over 50 innings. Wow.

[RedsMan3203]

Morton has given up 14 HRs in a little over 50 innings. Wow.

Wait, he is 1-11 in 50 innings?!?! :eek:

[mbgrayson]

Wait, he is 1-11 in 50 innings?!?! :eek:

He has started 12 games, and has 50.1 innings coming into tonight. (14 HRs)

[Big Klu]

Reds wearing white hats with red bills and a red, white, blue 'C'.

The white hats look good with the home uniforms.

[Ron Madden]

OC picked off.

[RedsMan3203]

He has started 12 games, and has 50.1 innings coming into tonight. (14 HRs)

Guess it was dumb luck he won that 1 game....

[nemesis]

OC picked off.

Already missing Janish. 1 inning 2 botched plays...

[mbgrayson]

Already missing Janish. 1 inning 2 botched plays...

Not enough outfielders, too many shortstops. Lol...

[mbgrayson]

After one inning, Reds 0, Pirates 0.

Volquez at 17 pitches, 9 strikes.
Morton at 11 pitches, 8 strikes.

[RedsMan3203]

Not enough outfielders, too many shortstops. Lol...

Reds have just as many healthy SS as they have outfielders....

[corkedbat]

Votto and Rolen both struggling at the plate a little right now.

[RedsMan3203]

Meanwhile in Atlanta... Box lets pitcher Saito lead off the inning hitting and after the inning is completed he replaces him with Farnsworth

[RedsMan3203]

Volkie looked good right there.... Touching 96 with his FB.

[Ron Madden]

Edinson is bringin' it, so far tonight.

[nemesis]

Looking like he did when he first came back. He could be huge if he stays even close to that form.

[WebScorpion]

Volquez with a walkless inning! :eek: :D

[corkedbat]

Rhank you Sxottie! Needed that!

[WebScorpion]

Edinson is bingin' it, so far tonight.
Oh, did he pick up a Microsoft endorsement? :evil:

[RedsMan3203]

HD working on DirecTV now...

[VR]

Stubby due for a gapper.

[VR]

Grande > Keels (x100)

[WebScorpion]

Rolen with a leadoff double,
Gomes singles to center and Rolen moves to third,
Razor Ramon hit by pitch to load them up.
So bases juiced with nobody out for Stubbs. :thumbup:

[NJReds]

If Cairo was any closer to HP while on deck, he'd be right behind the umpire.

[mbgrayson]

Cardinals out in the 11th w/o scoring. Still 3-3 in Atlanta.

[Gallen5862]

Thanks for the PBP. Let's go Reds.

[mbgrayson]

Stubbs lines a sac fly to center, Rolen scores, Gomes to third. One out, 1st and 3rd.

[VR]

Stubbs hits one on the screws.....end up being a Sac fly to center.

[mbgrayson]

Cairo hits into a 5-4-3.

[alloverjr]

Cairo hits into a 5-4-3.

Fillin' in nicely for Heisey. ;)

[mbgrayson]

After 2 innings, Reds 1, Pirates 0.

Volquez at 29 pitches, 18 strikes.
Morton at 24 pitches, 17 strikes.

[WebScorpion]

After 2 complete, Reds 1 - Buccos 0

Morton 24 pitches, 17 strikes
Volquez 29 pitches, 18 strikes.

[TeamBoone]

They are going to show the Pete Rose celebration tomorrow at 12:30 pm on Reds Live.

I believe all teams are wearing the white hats in recognition of 9/11.... RIP all.

[WebScorpion]

After 2 innings, Reds 1, Pirates 0.

Volquez at 29 pitches, 18 strikes.
Morton at 24 pitches, 17 strikes.
JINX! :laugh:

[VR]

This is a different version of EV than we saw in his previous starts. His windup is completely under control....not arms and legs flailing and the ball coming out like a scud missile.

[RedsMan3203]

Wow! Pretty quiet around here... I thought Live Topic was broken.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cards and Braves headed to the 12th.

[RedsMan3203]

97 MPH heat on the black...

[Reds Fanatic]

1-2-3 inning for Volquez ends with his 3rd K.

[NJReds]

Volquez looks so smooth and under control tonight. Looks like a couple weeks in the minors did some good.

[RedsMan3203]

Volkie and Phillips ground out to start the inning....

[WebScorpion]

Wow! Pretty quiet around here... I thought Live Topic was broken.
I had to reboot my computer...it looks like that cleared up my speed problem. :D

[NJReds]

Making another awful pitcher look like a worldbeater.

[RedsMan3203]

Cabby grounds out to the pitcher...

[mbgrayson]

After 3 innings, Reds 1, Pirates 0.

Volquez at 45 pitches, 29 strikes.
Morton at 33 pitches, 25 strikes.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cards went down 1-2-3 in the 12th.

[VR]

All three balls could have been hits.

EV hit a slow grounder that the 3b had to make a clean/ quick pick up and throw across his body.

BP squirted one down the 1b line, diving stop and toss to get the out.

OC hit one up the middle....off the shoe of the pitcher who recovers and throws him out.


Not good fortune at all there.

[VR]

10 pitch inning woudl be good here.

[Reds Fanatic]

Walker flies out to the track in left.

[mbgrayson]

Jones pops out to Rolen, two down.

[RedsMan3203]

Hmm... TLR the "Genius" moved FeLo to RF.

[RedsMan3203]

Cario gets the job done....

[mbgrayson]

Alvarez flies to fairly deep right. 1-2-3 inning.

[Reds Fanatic]

1-0 Reds mid 4th.

[VR]

15 pitches....not bad.

Bottom of the order coming up, hopefully he can blow through them economically.

[WebScorpion]

Volquez at 60 pitches after 4 innings. He's gonna need to economize if he wants to finish the 7th. I wonder if they have him on a pitch count?

[Gallen5862]

Thanks for all the updates.

[Reds Fanatic]

Braves have runners on 1st and 3rd with 1 out in the 12th.

[RedsMan3203]

Votto walks...

[Redsfan320]

Grande > Keels (x100)

Grande > Anyone today except Marty & Scully, and possibly Jon Miller, IMO

Just a joy to listen to.

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[corkedbat]

Braves have 1st and 3rd with 1 out

[WebScorpion]

Braves have 1st and 3rd with 1 out
and the guy on 3rd is Rick Ankiel. :ughmamoru

[Cedric]

4 Ip and 2 hits off of Charlie Morton.

Struggling time.

[mth123]

Cards lose

[VR]

agon with the 3 run jack to beat the Cards.....

[Reds Fanatic]

Alex Gonzalez homers for the Braves. Magic number is 16.

[alloverjr]

agon with the 3 run jack to beat the Cards.....

I always liked that guy. :D

[SirFelixCat]

AGon still a fan of the Reds! :thumbup:

[WebScorpion]

Alex Gonzalez hits a walk-off 3-run homer in the 12th for Atlanta. Reds magic number is 16! :thumbup:

[VR]

I think EV just threw 5 balls in that at bat.....and gets the K.

[RedsMan3203]

I think EV just threw 5 balls in that at bat.....and gets the K.

His stuff is that good, he fools the ump also...

[RedsMan3203]

Volkie keeps it going....

[WebScorpion]

KKKKK! :thumbup:

[Reds Fanatic]

5 Ks for Volquez. 1-0 Reds mid 5th.

[VR]

His stuff is that good, he fools the ump also...

yep.....just keep throwing enough strikes, and he'll get those kind of calls.

[Brutus]

Where has thee gone, Reds offense? Charlie Morton, of the 9 ERA Mortons is limiting thee to one run on a pair of hits.

[VR]

Another magical play....ruled foul however

[Reds Fanatic]

Hernandez grounds out to short.

[Reds Fanatic]

Stubbs lines a double to left.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cairo grounds out to short on the first pitch. Stubbs to 3rd.

[corkedbat]

I know there are a lot of mixed feeling on Stibbs but I have a feeling he's going to keep improving

[Reds Fanatic]

Volquez strikes out swinging. 1-0 Reds after 5.

[NJReds]

I know there are a lot of mixed feeling on Stibbs but I have a feeling he's going to keep improving

Lately he's been our best hitter.

[Chip R]

Just once I'd like to see a pitcher bunt with a runner on and 2 down. What can it hurt?

[WebScorpion]

I know there are a lot of mixed feeling on Stibbs but I have a feeling he's going to keep improving
Most young players are streaky and as they mature they shorten their bad streaks and lengthen their good streaks...I see no reason he won't progress like that. :dunno:

[VR]

I would have like to see Stubby try to steal 3rd with Cairo batting. He's speed is not being used enough as a weapon imho.

[mbgrayson]

After 5 innings, Reds 1, Pirates 0.

Volquez at 73 pitches, 46 strikes.
Morton at 57 pitches, 39 strikes.

[Ron Madden]

Charlie Morten isn't really this good.

[Reds Fanatic]

6th K for Volquez.

[WebScorpion]

6th K for Volquez. Strikeouts are great if you can do it with 3 pitches! :thumbup:

[Reds Fanatic]

McCutchen strikes out looking. 7 Ks.

[Reds Fanatic]

Tabata grounds out to short on the first pitch. 1-0 Reds mid 6th.

[mbgrayson]

THis is great to see EV thru 6 on 82 pitches, even if they are the Pirates. Nice to get that final minor league tune-up before facing MLB hitters.

[TRF]

Tabata's AB was a bullpen savior. Volquez has a chance to go 8 innings tonight.

[BCubb2003]

Is it my imagination or are George Grande's comments a little more pointed tonight?

[membengal]

Great to see EV so sharp tonight. Just what this staff needed at this moment in time.

[WebScorpion]

Tabata's AB was a bullpen savior. Volquez has a chance to go 8 innings tonight.Yeah, 9 pitches that inning including 2 Ks. :eek:

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips grounds out to 3rd.

[oneupper]

Is it my imagination or are George Grande's comments a little more pointed tonight?

I just tuned in, but I'm liking it.

[VR]

THis is great to see EV thru 6 on 82 pitches, even if they are the Pirates. Nice to get that final minor league tune-up before facing MLB hitters.

Yes....against one of the better AAAA teams.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cabrera lines out to 1st on the first pitch.

[Cedric]

This team has major problems because Dusty has no options. The 1/2 spots are black holes.

[mbgrayson]

EV is actually throwing a no hitter tonight. The only hit was the 1st inning single off OCab's glove, which should have been scored an E-6.

[BCubb2003]

Yes....against one of the better AAAA teams.

A rehab assignment against the Pirates.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto lines out to short. 1-0 Reds after 6.

[mbgrayson]

BABIP is biting the Reds hard tonight. Two hard liners right at infielders that inning.

[Ron Madden]

EV is actually throwing a no hitter tonight. The only hit was the 1st inning single off OCab's glove, which should have been scored an E-6.

I think so too.

[membengal]

Yes....against one of the better AAAA teams.

I know that's funny and all, but the Pirates took 2 of 3 from StL a few weeks back, and lit up Carpenter in the process.

Just sayin'...

[mbgrayson]

I know that's funny and all, but the Pirates took 2 of 3 from StL a few weeks back, and lit up Carpenter in the process.

Just sayin'...

Sure, in Pittsburgh. They have 14 wins all year on the road.

[Reds Fanatic]

Walker strikes out swinging. 8 Ks.

[membengal]

Sure, in Pittsburgh. They have 14 wins all year on the road.

Fine. But they can hit. And have. No need to continually slag the Reds taking care of business, or that EV is throwing a nice game.

[VR]

I know that's funny and all, but the Pirates took 2 of 3 from StL a few weeks back, and lit up Carpenter in the process.

Just sayin'...

They've got some hitters, for sure.

Their pitching staff looks like what we endured in Cincy from 2003-2006.

[Reds Fanatic]

Walker strikes out swinging. 9 Ks.

[nate]

This has been the best announced game of the year.

Even if it is against the Pirates!

:cool:

[mbgrayson]

They've got some hitters, for sure.

Their pitching staff looks like what we endured in Cincy from 2003-2006.

Pirates have a .241 team batting averge, and a .302 team OBP, both last in the NL. Their team slugging percentage is .370, next to last in the NL.

With that said, Volquez looks great tonight.

[Chip R]

Pedro better rent not own in PIT cause once he gets paid, he's gone.

[Reds Fanatic]

Alvarez strikes out swinging. Volquez strikes out the side. 10 Ks. 1-0 Reds mid 7th.

[NJReds]

Volquez is flat out nasty tonight. Some really great pitches down in the zone.

[sivman17]

So I am just able to start watching.. was the missed play by Cabrera in the first an easy play?

[Ron Madden]

Edinson is looking great tonight.

[membengal]

So I am just able to start watching.. was the missed play by Cabrera in the first an easy play?

It felt like one that should have been made. He kind of short-armed a ball up the middle and it glanced off his glove.

[Reds Fanatic]

98 pitches for Volquez.

[Degenerate39]

So I am just able to start watching.. was the missed play by Cabrera in the first an easy play?

Janish would've had it

[mbgrayson]

It felt like one that should have been made. He kind of short-armed a ball up the middle and it glanced off his glove.

Wouldn't it be interesting if the official scorer changed the call on that one...a retroactive no-hitter.

[sivman17]

Wouldn't it be interesting if the official scorer changed the call on that one...a retroactive no-hitter.

I was gona ask that. Any chance of it?

[Ron Madden]

So I am just able to start watching.. was the missed play by Cabrera in the first an easy play?

Could have easily been scored an E6 IMHO.

[Reds Fanatic]

I was gona ask that. Any chance of it?

I would make history if they did it. I don't think a no-hitter has ever been declared after the fact due to a changed scoring decision.

Rolen doubles to left.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gomes singles to center. 1st and 3rd.

[membengal]

Yeah, I don't see them changing the scoring decision now. The time to have reconsidered and changed it would have been back in the first.

Doesn't take away from what a great game EV has pitched. Just tremendous.

[Brutus]

Fine. But they can hit. And have. No need to continually slag the Reds taking care of business, or that EV is throwing a nice game.

EV is definitely on fire tonight, but are you aware that Pittsburgh has the second worst offense in baseball this year? They've scored 486 runs which is only better than Seattle.

They have a few nice hitters, but as a team, no Pittsburgh deosn't hit. 3.5 runs per game--that's awful.

I'm not bagging on Volquez. He's looked great. Just saying: this Pittsburgh team is terrible.

[TRF]

hello offense. we were wondering if you'd show up.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hernandez sac fly to center. 2-0 Reds!

[RedsMan3203]

Get em on, Get em over, Get them in!

[Chip R]

lead is not cordero proof

[sivman17]

lead is not cordero proof

I'm not sure if there is a lead that is Cordero proof.

[alloverjr]

lead is not cordero proof

if there were such a thing.

[Chip R]

a lead where we dont have to use him

[Reds Fanatic]

Stubbs singles to right center. 1st and 3rd.

[membengal]

EV is definitely on fire tonight, but are you aware that Pittsburgh has the second worst offense in baseball this year? They've scored 486 runs which is only better than Seattle.

They have a few nice hitters, but as a team, no Pittsburgh deosn't hit. 3.5 runs per game--that's awful.

I'm not bagging on Volquez. He's looked great. Just saying: this Pittsburgh team is terrible.

I am aware of that. And yet, EV is throwing a good game. No need to act like it doesn't count because it's against the Pirates. Again, this same Pirates team lit up Carpenter a few weeks back. It's not like they are always awful. They have their moments.

[Brutus]

I am aware of that. And yet, EV is throwing a good game. No need to act like it doesn't count because it's against the Pirates. Again, this same Pirates team lit up Carpenter a few weeks back. It's not like they are always awful. They have their moments.

Sure. Every Major League team has their moments. That's why they're Major League baseball teams. Heck, the worst teams in history win at least a third of their games.

Edinson's game still counts and I'm thrilled to death to see him bring it tonight. I'm especially pleased with his command. But I think it's fair to point out that he's doing it against a team that is pushing historically bad.

[membengal]

Right, because it's always important to minimize it when the Reds do something nice...

[Reds Fanatic]

Chris Resop in to pitch

[GriffeyFan]

Grande > Anyone today except Marty & Scully, and possibly Jon Miller, IMO

Just a joy to listen to.

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Sorry, can't stand to listen to him. Why's he on tonight?

[Chip R]

Sorry, can't stand to listen to him. Why's he on tonight?

Keels had tOSU football

[Reds Fanatic]

Keels had tOSU football
That and Thom has an NFL game tomorrow.

[Brutus]

Right, because it's always important to minimize it when the Reds do something nice...

I think some people are just frustrated that these performances haven't carried over against top tier competition. That's created some perspective as to who it's coming against and who it's not. It's not that people don't enjoy/appreciate it, just that they're trying to temper enthusiasm because it clearly hasn't yielded the same results against the big boys.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cairo sac fly to center. 3-0 Reds!

[BCubb2003]

I wonder what Harry Caray say about Chris Resop?

[RedsMan3203]

Get em on, Get em over, Get em in....

[Brutus]

Interesting that over the past 6 weeks, Stubbs is now hitting over .300 with an OPS of about .850. That's very encouraging going forward. Hope he keeps it up.

[Chip R]

That and Thom has an NFL game tomorrow.

That is unbelievable. UN believable. ;)

[Reds Fanatic]

Alonso hitting for Volquez.

[membengal]

I think some people are just frustrated that these performances haven't carried over against top tier competition. That's created some perspective as to who it's coming against and who it's not. It's not that people don't enjoy/appreciate it, just that they're trying to temper enthusiasm because it clearly hasn't yielded the same results against the big boys.

Why is anyone the self-appointed enthusiasm temperers? Is anyone in this game thread saying that the Reds are all of a sudden evenly matched against likely playoff teams because EV threw a good game tonite?

Because, if so, I sure missed those posts...

[Chip R]

You know Yonder's story.

[Reds Fanatic]

Fantastic start by Volquez: 7IP, 1H, 0ER, 1BB, 10K.

[RedsMan3203]

Fantastic start by Volquez: 7IP, 1H, 0ER, 1BB, 10K.

Wood or Volquez for the final spot in the playoffs?

[sivman17]

Really wish they could find a spot for Yonder. Seems like he could be a good hitter.

[Reds Fanatic]

Alonso lines out to short. 3-0 Reds after 7.

[RedsMan3203]

Really wish they could find a spot for Yonder. Seems like he could be a good hitter.

Votto or Yonder have to learn to play LF. Thats about the only spot either one could play other than 1st.

[mbgrayson]

Wood or Volquez for the final spot in the playoffs?

Bailey, Cueto, Arroyo, and Volquez. (Wood if a 5th guy were ever needed. )

[VR]

I wonder what Harry Caray say about Chris Resop?

I'm guessing this is your only post in tonights game thread BC.

Well played. Well played.

[oneupper]

Bailey, Cueto, Arroyo, and Volquez. (Wood if a 5th guy were ever needed. )

If you're up against Phllly you want a lefty. Probably Atlanta, too.

[RedsMan3203]

Heisey in RF.

[mbgrayson]

Nice to Heisey go out to play right.

[Reds Fanatic]

Masset in to pitch, Heisey in right.

[RedsMan3203]

If you're up against Phllly you want a lefty. Probably Atlanta, too.

You are correct there... Or atleast a dominating lefty out of the pen.... Do the Reds have one of those? :D

[Reds Fanatic]

Doumit strikes out looking.

[mbgrayson]

If you're up against Phllly you want a lefty. Probably Atlanta, too.

Then go with Wood, Maloney, and Chapman. (LOL)

[Reds Fanatic]

Cedeno singles to right.

[mbgrayson]

Cedeno gets the 1st legit hit of the night for the Pirates, in the 8th inning.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bowker lines a double to right center. 3-1 Reds.

[mbgrayson]

Chapman up in the pen.

[Brutus]

Why is anyone the self-appointed enthusiasm temperers? Is anyone in this game thread saying that the Reds are all of a sudden evenly matched against likely playoff teams because EV threw a good game tonite?

Because, if so, I sure missed those posts...

No one is the self-appointed enthusiasm temperers. But don't they have the right to say it? If that's how they feel, they should say so. It is, after all, a message board. It's a place for discussions. You have every right to say how good someone is looking. They have every right to agree, disagree or modify based on your comment.

For me, tonight is exactly why Volquez frustrates me. Because Pirates or not, this is the kind of quality pitching he's capable of. That it is woefully hit or miss is why I have a hard time getting too happy about this kind of performance. Unfortunately he's got a habit of sometimes following it up against a team like San Francisco with 5 walks and 7 hits in 4 innings.

[Reds Fanatic]

Young grounds out to 1st. Runner to 3rd.

[VR]

Bowker lines a double to right center. 3-1 Reds.

on an 0-2 pitch that Hernandez was trying to stand up to give a high target.....Massett left it 'down'

[Reds Fanatic]

McCutchen walks. 1st and 3rd.

[TRF]

No one is the self-appointed enthusiasm temperers. But don't they have the right to say it? If that's how they feel, they should say so. It is, after all, a message board. It's a place for discussions. You have every right to say how good someone is looking. They have every right to agree, disagree or modify based on your comment.

For me, tonight is exactly why Volquez frustrates me. Because Pirates or not, this is the kind of quality pitching he's capable of. That it is woefully hit or miss is why I have a hard time getting too happy about this kind of performance. Unfortunately he's got a habit of sometimes following it up against a team like San Francisco with 5 walks and 7 hits in 4 innings.

you do know he's just a year removed from Tommy John surgery right? expecting ANYTHING from him this year is silly.

Now next year, any criticism will have merit. But not this year.

[Reds Fanatic]

Infield hit that Cabrera can't field cleanly. 3-2 Reds.

[mbgrayson]

Paul, we need you.....

[Brutus]

you do know he's just a year removed from Tommy John surgery right? expecting ANYTHING from him this year is silly.

Now next year, any criticism will have merit. But not this year.

I don't think that's valid. He's had command/control issues his entire career. That's not something that is happening just because of surgery.

[corkedbat]

hope this is a 1.1 inning save opp

[Tony Cloninger]

I know the guy has pitched good....but then he comes in and acts like a rookie with no feel for what the heck is going on.

[Reds Fanatic]

Chapman in to pitch

[RedsMan3203]

Chapman in to pitch

Who?

[Brutus]

I know the guy has pitched good....but then he comes in and acts like a rookie with no feel for what the heck is going on.

Chapman acts like that? Chapman is about as cool as a cucumber. Calm as a cookie. OK well cliches aside, I think Chapman has been pretty darn poised.

[Reds Fanatic]

Runners steal 2nd and 3rd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Single to center. 4-3 Pirates. 2nd straight great start is blown.

[TRF]

I don't think that's valid. He's had command/control issues his entire career. That's not something that is happening just because of surgery.

true, but they are exacerbated right now. his past is irrelevant to the point that NO ONE comes back from TJ surgery in 12 months (less even) with control. And as poor as his command was say in 2007, it wasn't as bad as it has been this year sans 2 starts.

I think you know that.

[CTA513]

Imagine how bad Bray would be getting ripped right now.

[sivman17]

well that's awesome.. 2nd night in a row our bullpen blows a tremendous start

[Chip R]

I guess the Pirates may be a little better than advertised or our bullpen sucks.

[Reds Fanatic]

One thing that is really getting old is none of our relievers bother to hold runners on base.

[VR]

Stolen bases give Pirates the lead. Anyone remember those?

[alloverjr]

One thing that is really getting old is none of our relievers bother to hold runners on base.

or that the offense managed 3 runs against a starter that was 1-11 with an ERA over 9.

[Reds Fanatic]

Of course I say that and then Chapman picks off a runner. 4-3 Pirates mid 8th.

[Cedric]

or that the offense managed 3 runs against a starter that was 1-11 with an ERA over 9.

No depth. Just hope they crawl into a playoff spot.

[VR]

In Stubbs last 17 times on base....he has attempted one sb.

[PuffyPig]

The Pirates have basically one well hit ball tonight, Browker's double, but have managed 4 runs.

Meanwhile, we've hit line drives all over the park.

That's baseball, but it sucks right now.

[Tony Cloninger]

I was talking about Nick M. The guy with all the great K ratio and hits to IP ratio and all those numbers that do not tell the story about what this guy's mindset is.

The hit that went back up the middle was supposed to be inside.....but he left it out and high. Bad command and location.
This is a Triple A team. I do not care if the Cards lost...this is BS.

[Cedric]

Can the Astros still win this division? I'm only half joking.

[PuffyPig]

I was talking about Nick M. The guy with all the great K ratio and hits to IP ratio and all those numbers that do not tell the story about what this guy's mindset is.

The hit that went back up the middle was supposed to be inside.....but he left it out and high. Bad command and location.
This is a Triple A team. I do not care if the Cards lost...this is BS.

The hit that wemt up the middle was thrown by Chapman.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips flew out to right.

[sivman17]

What does Ocab bring to this team? Besides a .262 BA and no range?

[TheNext44]

This is the result of Cordero blowing the save last night. It forced the Reds to workthe bullpen, so that today, they are running on fumes.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cabrera singles to right center.

[alloverjr]

I think the answer is always Cordero.

[alloverjr]

Votto going all Puljos the last week or so. See if that works.

[mbgrayson]

Can the Astros still win this division? I'm only half joking.

Baseball prospectus says the Astros chances of winning the division are .00257 of 1%

[Cedric]

Baseball prospectus says the Astros chances of winning the division are .00257 of 1%

Ok.. I was full on joking.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto walks. 1st and 2nd.

[alloverjr]

C'mon Scott.

[oneupper]

Rolen's second half power outage has given other teams the option to pitch around Joey.

[alloverjr]

Pinch run for Cabrerra and steal 3rd. Please.

[Tony Cloninger]

The hit that wemt up the middle was thrown by Chapman.

OK....I know that. I was talking about prior TO that...not Chapman.

Then I added on about the pitch that was hit up the middle...that happened to be thrown by Chapman.

Sorry I am not stating people's names in each of my quotes.
I'm already sick of George Grande "the Buccos" "yes sirree" "hit pretty good....it's gonna beeee gone!"

[Chip R]

Need Janish for the OF. Maybe.

[klw]

Need Janish for the OF. Maybe.

Nah they have Leake.

[mbgrayson]

Rolen's second half power outage has given other teams the option to pitch around Joey.

This.

[Cedric]

Rolen sure hates to take walks.

[VR]

Ryan Doumit has allowed 76 stolen bases this year......and caught 8.

It's like they've just given up on the concept of the stolen base.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rolen strikes out swinging. 2 outs.