Good start for Evan Turner

[Brutus]

For you OSU fans and/or quasi NBA fans, Evan Turner shook off a rough camp (and summer for that matter) with a solid debut off the bench this evening against Miami.

16 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists and only two turnovers in 31 minutes. He was 7-of-10 from the field.

I think he's going to be a fine offensive player at this level. I know his jumper still needs a lot of work, especially off the dribble, but in the league, if you can beat people off the dribble, you already have a leg up since teams primarily play man defense (and sometimes lazy at that).

I think Philadelphia will be better putting him at point slowly, and letting him evolve.

[Captain Hook]

For you OSU fans and/or quasi NBA fans, Evan Turner shook off a rough camp (and summer for that matter) with a solid debut off the bench this evening against Miami.

16 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists and only two turnovers in 31 minutes. He was 7-of-10 from the field.

I think he's going to be a fine offensive player at this level. I know his jumper still needs a lot of work, especially off the dribble, but in the league, if you can beat people off the dribble, you already have a leg up since teams primarily play man defense (and sometimes lazy at that).

I think Philadelphia will be better putting him at point slowly, and letting him evolve.

I was able to watch thanks to a free first week of the NBA pass.

He looked good and at times it seemed like the 76ers were letting him run things.It won't be long before he's a top NBA player imo. Guys his size that can handle the point,get good penetration while being a threat to score or pass the ball along with playing good defense will always become stars as long as they can shoot from the outside at a average rate.He's likely to be the complete package.

We'll see how far that takes him.As long as the desire is there and he can stay healthy the sky is the limit.

[NorrisHopper30]

I don't think he'll do much in the NBA, but we will see. If he can keep the turnovers down then he may be a solid player, but otherwise I don't see it.

[Brutus]

I don't think he'll do much in the NBA, but we will see. If he can keep the turnovers down then he may be a solid player, but otherwise I don't see it.

LeBron James turns the ball over at a prodigious pace. In fact, he was 4th highest in the league in turnovers last season. Obviously he's in a league of his own, but my point is... there's a lot more to basketball than just turnovers. Turner is a potential PG that can pass, get to the basket and rebound extremely well for his position. There's an enormous amount of value in that.

Guys that can break down a defender and get to the rim, while having tremendous court awareness and being able to rebound... they tend to have success in the NBA, especially when they're playing point.

He's tailor made to do well. It's not a sure thing, and no question his handle will have to continue to get better, but I'll be surprised if he isn't at least a solid 10-year vet that starts most of his career.

[gilpdawg]

I don't see Turner as a star, but I think he's got a very good chance to be a Battier type player. Won't put up stats, but will help you win games.

[BuckWild03]

All of last year and even the year before, I kept saying that Evan would make a great NBA player and I still think he will. Definitely still needs some polishing, but he is a guy that the 76ers can build around.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Turner will never be "the guy", but he's a real good second option on most teams.

[WMR]

It has to make the Sixers sick to think how close they got to drafting the next transcendent NBA talent.

Remember this quote from the combine... "I was the national player of the year, not John Wall." :eek:

[WMR]

Damn!! Jodie Meeks is drinking Evan Turner's milkshake right now! Meeks playing really well for Sixers. 40 mins tonight for Jodie ... Only 6 for Turner.

YouTube - Jodie Meeks' 3 Point Barrage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u11jtTdNuT0&feature=player_embedded)

This is from last week... Tied a Sixers record with 20 in the quarter...

[BuckeyeRed27]

It looks to me like Turner is trying to adjust to not having the ball in his hands all the time. The last two seasons at OSU he did a good majority of the PG play and was always there to create one on one. That is not what he's doing in Philly and he looks lost sometimes.

[Cedric]

It has to make the Sixers sick to think how close they got to drafting the next transcendent NBA talent.

Remember this quote from the combine... "I was the national player of the year, not John Wall." :eek:

John Wall and Demarcus Cousins aren't exactly lighting up anything right now. Cousins is an embarrassment.

[Javy Pornstache]

John Wall and Demarcus Cousins aren't exactly lighting up anything right now. Cousins is an embarrassment.

LOL. Okay.

[WMR]

John Wall and Demarcus Cousins aren't exactly lighting up anything right now. Cousins is an embarrassment.

Are you obsessed with Cousins or something? How did he get dragged into this thread? :lol: UC fans talking about embarrassing basketball players does make me laugh a bit though.

As for John Wall, averaging 16 pts. 9 assists and 2.5 steals per game as a rookie is pretty damn awesome. Sorry your irrational hate won't let you see and recognize that. :(

[NorrisHopper30]

Cousins is doing better than Turner

[Brutus]

Are you obsessed with Cousins or something? How did he get dragged into this thread? :lol: UC fans talking about embarrassing basketball players does make me laugh a bit though.

As for John Wall, averaging 16 pts. 9 assists and 2.5 steals per game as a rookie is pretty damn awesome. Sorry your irrational hate won't let you see and recognize that. :(

You brought Jodie Meeks into the discussion. I'd say most people would agree you opened up the can of worms.

[WMR]

Here's a good article explaining how Meeks' hot hand has affected Evan Turner's first year in Philly.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/538962-what-the-emergence-of-jodie-meeks-means-for-the-future-of-evan-turner

Unless someone is being intentionally obtuse or trying to troll, not sure how they could confuse comparing and discussing a teammate who plays the same position who has relegated a top pick to the bench to bringing up a Center from the Western Conference. (Or a player, John Wall, that Turner guaranteed would be compared to him for his entire career after his boneheaded comments in pre-draft interviews.) :lol:

Cedric is just a little frustrated I'm guessing. ;)

[WMR]

It is not the two points that people should worry about. It is the one assist and one rebound. Turner has got to start producing in those areas if he is going to stay on the court and get a chance to develop. Right now, Evan Turner's development does not seem to be priority one for the Sixers. Their priority is winning and Jodie Meeks is giving them the best chance to do that. Meeks has given the Sixers perhaps their most balanced starting five since the early 2000's. Everyone clearly knows their roles in this lineup and they are playing them well right now.

This part of the article I really agree with. Turner can still contribute to this team, but he's gotta start looking to do it in areas besides the scoring column.

[Cedric]

Here's a good article explaining how Meeks' hot hand has affected Evan Turner's first year in Philly.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/538962-what-the-emergence-of-jodie-meeks-means-for-the-future-of-evan-turner

Unless someone is being intentionally obtuse or trying to troll, not sure how they could confuse comparing and discussing a teammate who plays the same position who has relegated a top pick to the bench to bringing up a Center from the Western Conference. (Or a player, John Wall, that Turner guaranteed would be compared to him for his entire career after his boneheaded comments in pre-draft interviews.) :lol:

Cedric is just a little frustrated I'm guessing. ;)

You are just a typical arrogant Kentucky fan. Trying to bait people into arguments because you want to brag about "your boys".

It's annoying and immature.

You have trolled and baited throughout this thread. It's obvious what you were trying to do with the Meeks comment and the other immature comments.

[paintmered]

You are just a typical arrogant Kentucky fan. Trying to bait people into arguments because you want to brag about "your boys".

It's annoying and immature.

You have trolled and baited throughout this thread. It's obvious what you were trying to do with the Meeks comment and the other immature comments.

This. WMR, knock it off or you're getting a vacation from The Tavern.

[Betterread]

Unless someone is being intentionally obtuse or trying to troll, not sure how they could confuse comparing and discussing a teammate who plays the same position who has relegated a top pick to the bench to bringing up a Center from the Western Conference. (Or a player, John Wall, that Turner guaranteed would be compared to him for his entire career after his boneheaded comments in pre-draft interviews.) :lol:

Cedric is just a little frustrated I'm guessing. ;)

A) Jodie Meeks doesn't play the same position as Evan Turner. Iguodala does, therein lies Turner's PT obstacle. Meeks is a shooter, that takes 2/3 of his shots behind the 3pt line. His game is not comparable to Turner's, who lacks that shooting skill but is superior in every other BB skill category to Meeks.
B) Cousins is not a center, although, it should be said, it is unknown what position he does play. He can't guard NBA 4s or 5s on defense. He's slow, he's weak and he's a dumb basketball player with no defensive intelligence. All he can do is foul people, which he does at a very impressive rate. A rate almost as high as his turnover rate. Yeah. Impressive player all right.
C) John Wall is an impressive player. Very impressive. It is not fair to lump Turner, or Cousins in the same sentence as Wall.

[redsfanmia]

You are just a typical arrogant Kentucky fan. Trying to bait people into arguments because you want to brag about "your boys".

It's annoying and immature.

You have trolled and baited throughout this thread. It's obvious what you were trying to do with the Meeks comment and the other immature comments.

This is not the only thread he does that in.

[gilpdawg]

If there wasn't obnoxious Kentucky fans, there wouldn't be any Kentucky fans at all. :)

That's only a joke, lest anybody get offended. I like reading WMR's stuff, even when he's completely and wrongly biased. :)

[TeamSelig]

Not sure where WMR "trolled" but then again I'm a UK fan. :) He was just mentioning that Turner has struggled in the NBA, as most do... including Cousins. However, 12-8 with almost a block per game in 25 minutes is pretty impressive for a rookie. Low shooting percentage and fouls too much, sure... but that is common for rookies IMO.