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CarolinaRedleg
05-19-2011, 10:08 AM
Lineups, courtesy of Jamie Ramsey, Better Off Red

Chris Heisey 8
Edgar Renteria 6
Joey Votto 3
Brandon Phillips 4
Jay Bruce 9
Miguel Cairo 5
Fred Lewis 7
Ramon Hernandez 2
Johnny Cueto 1

reds1869
05-19-2011, 10:28 AM
Glad to see Stubbs getting a day off, especially when it results in both Heisey and Lewis in the lineup. It seems like Drew has been trotted out there every day and even though he has performed wonderfully I don't want to run his legs into the ground.

Chip R
05-19-2011, 10:38 AM
Dusty giving Gomes a rest to prepare for his weekend of DHing.

RBA
05-19-2011, 11:22 AM
Dusty giving Gomes a rest to prepare for his weekend of DHing.

D'oh!

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 11:35 AM
The Pirate lineup:


A. McCutchen cf
X. Paul lf
G. Jones rf
N. Walker 2b
L. Overbay 1b
R. Doumit c
P. Alvarez 3b
R. Cedeno ss
J. McDonald p

Far East
05-19-2011, 11:45 AM
Cairo might be behind Bruce because he might have a good history against the Pirate starting pitcher or to be a potential baserunner in front of Lewis to allow Fred to attempt a hit-and-run.

But I'd protect Bruce with Hernandez and bat Cairo 8th (or Ninth).

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 11:49 AM
No Reds TV today. But the game will be on the MLB Network.

klw
05-19-2011, 11:49 AM
I would have liked:
Chris Heisey 8
Fred Lewis 7
Joey Votto 3
Brandon Phillips 4
Jay Bruce 9
Ramon Hernandez 2
Edgar Renteria 6
Miguel Cairo 5
Johnny Cueto 1

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 11:50 AM
I would have liked:
Chris Heisey 8
Fred Lewis 7
Joey Votto 3
Brandon Phillips 4
Jay Bruce 9
Ramon Hernandez 2
Edgar Renteria 6
Miguel Cairo 5
Johnny Cueto 1


:nono: SS always bat second.

klw
05-19-2011, 11:51 AM
I may have liked this even more:

Fred Lewis 7
Brandon Phillips 4
Joey Votto 3
Ramon Hernandez 2
Jay Bruce 9
Edgar Renteria 6
Chris Heisey 8
Miguel Cairo 5
Johnny Cueto 1

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 12:03 PM
I may have liked this one EVEN MORE!

Pete Rose 3b
Ken Griffey rf
Joe Morgan 2b
Johnny Bench c
Tony Perez 1b
George Foster lf
Cesar Geronimo cf
Dave Concepcion ss

But maybe I'm too greedy. :O)

klw
05-19-2011, 12:15 PM
I may have liked this one EVEN MORE!

Pete Rose 3b
Ken Griffey rf
Joe Morgan 2b
Johnny Bench c
Tony Perez 1b
George Foster lf
Cesar Geronimo cf
Dave Concepcion ss

But maybe I'm too greedy. :O)

no no no. To quote CumberlandReds SS must hit 2nd. Also you must split up the lefties, CF hits leadoff. Catcher hits 8th.


Cesar Geronimo cf
Dave Concepcion ss
Joe Morgan 2b
Tony Perez 1b
Ken Griffey rf
George Foster lf
Pete Rose 3b
Johnny Bench c
Freddie Norman p

Pretty hard to come up with a bad lineup with those guys.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 12:38 PM
Heisey runs down the 1st out.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 12:40 PM
The X man flies to LF. Two Away.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 12:41 PM
Jones K's. Perfect inning for Cueto.

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 12:44 PM
LOL. I just can't help laughing when Marty says that. "Dusty gives Stubbs a blow in center today". It's just SOOOO wrong. You'd think that by now he'd find a new way to say that.

Sorry, back to the thread. :laugh:

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 12:46 PM
http://www.x-entertainment.com/halloween/2005/october12/4.jpg

Frightening that he's not playing more. Lead off single after a great at bat.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 12:46 PM
Heisey a bloop single.

oneupper
05-19-2011, 12:47 PM
Game is on MLB.tv, but only the Pirate feed.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 12:51 PM
McCutch with a diving catch and Heisey is doubled up. Heisey was running on the pitch.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 12:52 PM
Votto takes a walk.

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 12:52 PM
One of these days Joey's going to absolutely bust out and hit like 3 dingers in a game. He hasn't hit one in like a month.

oneupper
05-19-2011, 12:52 PM
McCutch with a diving catch and Heisey is doubled up. Heisey was running on the pitch.

Pirate announcers giving Heisey the riot act. It was a hit and run. :confused:

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 12:53 PM
One of these days Joey's going to absolutely bust out and hit like 3 dingers in a game. He hasn't hit one in like a month.

April 27th. It's longest he's gone in his MLB career without one.

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 12:54 PM
April 27th. It's longest he's gone in his MLB career without one.

I knew I was close.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 12:54 PM
Pirate announcers giving Heisey the riot act. It was a hit and run. :confused:

Marty did too. But if he was running there's not much he can do.

11larkin11
05-19-2011, 12:56 PM
Marty did too. But if he was running there's not much he can do.

Just saw the replay on Gameday, he wasn't running. He didn't go until the ball was hit.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 12:57 PM
Fly out to RF ends the inning. Nil to Nil after one.

klw
05-19-2011, 12:58 PM
27 pitches to 4 hitters for Mr. McDonald. He won't be long for this game if the Reds can keep working the count like that.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 12:58 PM
Just saw the replay on Gameday, he wasn't running. He didn't go until the ball was hit.

Ah...Marty said he was running. I think he and the Cowboy were too much into the UDF already.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:00 PM
Walker walks to begin the 2nd

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:04 PM
Base hit. Runners on 1st and 2nd with no one out.

redhawkfish
05-19-2011, 01:05 PM
Just saw the replay on Gameday, he wasn't running. He didn't go until the ball was hit.

Yep! Horrible baserunning play!

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:06 PM
Doumit flies to the warning track in LF. Runner goes to third.

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 01:09 PM
Bases jacked....and here comes Ronny Cedeno. Uh-oh.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:10 PM
Alvarez walks to load them up. Cueto channeling his inner Volquez today.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:13 PM
Cedeno K's looking. Cueto really struggling with his control. He went 3-2 on Cedeno.

Hoosier Red
05-19-2011, 01:13 PM
Big K there. Just get the pitcher and be done with it.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:14 PM
McDonald lines out to CF. That's the inning, finally.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:14 PM
45 pitches for Cueto through two. Not good.

oneupper
05-19-2011, 01:15 PM
McDonald lines out to CF. That's the inning, finally.

McDonald was an OF in the minors.

Hoosier Red
05-19-2011, 01:16 PM
45 pitches for Cueto through two. Not good.

It's not a disaster. He just needs a couple of quick innings to balance it out.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:17 PM
Bruce goes Yard!!!!!!!!!!

Chip R
05-19-2011, 01:17 PM
Whoop!

CarolinaRedleg
05-19-2011, 01:18 PM
Need ya past third, Brucie!

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:18 PM
Cairo pops out to 2nd.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:20 PM
Bounce out to the box. Two away.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:21 PM
Hernandez pops to 2nd to end the inning. 1-0 Reds after two.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:27 PM
McCutch Grounds out and Paul K's.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:27 PM
GO to SS ends a quick inning. Cueto needed that.

Chip R
05-19-2011, 01:27 PM
Bucs go down 1-2-3.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:27 PM
Cueto at 54 pitches through three.

Hoosier Red
05-19-2011, 01:28 PM
GO to SS ends a quick inning. Cueto needed that.

Just curious, what statsheet are you watching to count pitches? I tend to use Gamecast for the combination of ease of graphics and speed, but it doesn't list pitches.

Or does it?

Chip R
05-19-2011, 01:30 PM
Cueto tries to get on with a bunt but just barely was out.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:30 PM
Just curious, what statsheet are you watching to count pitches? I tend to use Gamecast for the combination of ease of graphics and speed, but it doesn't list pitches.

Or does it?

MLB Gameday I think. It's what pops up when I log into the audio section. It gives a pitch summary with the type of pitch and location

OesterPoster
05-19-2011, 01:31 PM
On Cueto's bunt...

@Jamieblog Jamie Ramsey
Television replay indicates Cueto was safe. Win some, ya lose some.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:31 PM
Cueto bunts out to the pitcher and then Heisey flies out for two quick outs.

RichRed
05-19-2011, 01:32 PM
On Cueto's bunt...

@Jamieblog Jamie Ramsey
Television replay indicates Cueto was safe. Win some, ya lose some.

Funny, I thought the replay showed he was just barely out.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:33 PM
ER pops out to end the third. 1-0 Reds

Hoosier Red
05-19-2011, 01:33 PM
MLB Gameday I think. It's what pops up when I log into the audio section. It gives a pitch summary with the type of pitch and location

Thanks,

And actually I saw that you can track # of pitches on Gamecast but only for the guy actually on the mound.

HotCorner
05-19-2011, 01:34 PM
Funny, I thought the replay showed he was just barely out.

Funny, I thought the replay showed he was just barely safe. ;)

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:36 PM
Walker GO to SS.

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 01:37 PM
Ah, I missed it. Oh well...too bad, I'm doing it anyway. :O)

BRRUUUUUUUUUUUCE! :jump:

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:38 PM
Overbay a soft liner to Cairo for the 2nd out.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:40 PM
Doumit a hard liner over Votto's head for a single.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:41 PM
Alvarez flies to lf to end the Pirate 4th.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:41 PM
69 pitches for Cueto. He's just about back on target.

RichRed
05-19-2011, 01:41 PM
Funny, I thought the replay showed he was just barely safe. ;)

Guess it must've been a really close play then, huh? :D

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:43 PM
Votto's its time to end the HR drought.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:44 PM
Votto's its time to end the HR drought.

Or maybe not. Fly out to LF

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 01:44 PM
10 game hitting streak for BPhil

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:44 PM
DatDude lines a single into LF

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:46 PM
Bruce K's.

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 01:46 PM
Brrrrruce? *sigh* K.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:47 PM
Phillips gunned down trying to steal. 1-0 Reds after four.

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 01:47 PM
Do they take away his hit for that? *grumble, grumble*

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:48 PM
61 pitches for Ole McDonald through 4 innings.

757690
05-19-2011, 01:49 PM
I would be happy if Phillips never attempted another stolen bases, ever.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:50 PM
Cedeno K's. That's 4 K's for Cueto today.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:51 PM
Three pitch K to McDonald.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:51 PM
McCutch doubles on the first pitch.

Homer Bailey
05-19-2011, 01:53 PM
Why am I getting the Mets and the Nationals on MLB Network?

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:53 PM
Paul lines a hit off Phillips glove and McCutch scores to tie it up

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:56 PM
A walk by Cueto. 1st and 2nd with two out.

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 01:56 PM
Totally got squeezed there. That should've been a K looking.

RichRed
05-19-2011, 01:56 PM
How was that not a strike???

Caveat Emperor
05-19-2011, 01:56 PM
I'm sick of the Pirates. They're a 90-L team that the Reds can't figure out.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:57 PM
1st earned run of the year given up by Cueto.

Caveat Emperor
05-19-2011, 01:59 PM
Also, I know the game isn't on TV, but is anyone else bothered by the unchanging vacant expression on Andrew McCutchen's face? He looks like an N64-era character model from Triple Play baseball.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 01:59 PM
Walker doubles in two runs over heiseys head. 3-1 Bucs

Homer Bailey
05-19-2011, 01:59 PM
3-1. Sickening.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:00 PM
I'm sick of the Pirates. They're a 90-L team that the Reds can't figure out.

They don't come to Cincy anymore this season. But the Reds play in Pittsburgh 9 more games. How weird is that.

Heisey flies out to end this miserable 5th inning.

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 02:01 PM
1st poor inning of the season from Cueto. Hard to get too upset about that. Now just go out and get those runs back boys!

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:01 PM
The bats have to get it going. One run won't win many games. They have suddenly gone into a funk.

Caveat Emperor
05-19-2011, 02:02 PM
I'm not as concerned with the Pirates scoring 3-runs as I am with the Reds being unable to dent the plate against a thoroughly mediocre rotation.

Score some runs on these guys -- they aren't sending Cy Young to the mound, and they've been playing for pride since they entered the Pirates organization.

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 02:02 PM
Morton was one thing...but McDonald we should be PUMMELING.

RichRed
05-19-2011, 02:02 PM
1st poor inning of the season from Cueto. Hard to get too upset about that. Now just go out and get those runs back boys!

And even that should've ended in a goose egg. Terrible non-strike call by the ump on that 3-2 pitch.

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 02:03 PM
And even that should've ended in a goose egg. Terrible non-strike call by the ump on that 3-2 pitch.

Yep. Clearly a strike IMO

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:04 PM
Cairo singles.

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 02:04 PM
Miggy leads off with a single. Let's get it goin'!

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:04 PM
Smith warming in the bullpen. Cueto has 94 pitches. That may be it for him.

Caveat Emperor
05-19-2011, 02:05 PM
Someone at the ballpark should get a "contraction" chant going.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:08 PM
Lewis GO with Cairo moving up to 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 02:08 PM
Gomes on deck. Cueto's done.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:11 PM
Hernandez K's.

Gomes and his robust .183 avg will PH.

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 02:11 PM
Hey now! .183 if you please. :O)

Ooooh. Ninja edit. Quick on the draw. *grin*

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:12 PM
Hey now! .183 if you please. :O)

Just corrected it. Can't slight him three points.

Homer Bailey
05-19-2011, 02:12 PM
Well done Gomesy!

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:12 PM
Hey! Gomes with an unusual K.

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 02:13 PM
Make that .182

OesterPoster
05-19-2011, 02:13 PM
He's our DH this weekend. Can't wait to watch.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:13 PM
Mc Donald has 82 pitches through five.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:14 PM
Reds need to do an MRI on Gomes shoulder to see if he has some shoulder inflamation.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:15 PM
Jordan Smith in the game.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:17 PM
HR by Doumit. And the beat rolls on.....

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 02:18 PM
Jordan Smith in the game.

Baseball out of the game. Dinger Doumit

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:18 PM
Alvarez lines to LF

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:19 PM
Fly out to Heisey. Two away.

Homer Bailey
05-19-2011, 02:19 PM
This would be a really frustrating end to a great homestand if we lose two to the Pirates.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:20 PM
Hit by McDonald.

_Sir_Charles_
05-19-2011, 02:21 PM
This would be a really frustrating end to a great homestand if we lose two to the Pirates.

Yep. Marty was just saying that. We'd take a 5-2 homestand anytime...but the worst way to do it is to win 5 and then lose the last 2. Bad way to head to the airport.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:23 PM
A walk to McCutheon. This could get ugly quickly.

Dusty going to change pitchers. Arredondo in.

Homer Bailey
05-19-2011, 02:24 PM
I'm actually glad this isn't on MLB network for me.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:28 PM
K Arredondo does the job. Now the bats have to do the job. 3-1 Bucs in the 6th.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:31 PM
Heisey K's swinging.

Chip R
05-19-2011, 02:32 PM
4-1 actually.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:33 PM
4-1 actually.

Correct. Thanks. I'm trying to actually do some work while listening.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:33 PM
Votto GO as the latest CY Young pitcher for Pirates sets the Reds down in order.

CTA513
05-19-2011, 02:36 PM
The shortstop who is supposed to be the one that can hit is now down to .240

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:39 PM
Walker doubles and Jones GO.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:39 PM
3-1 out. two down.

CarolinaRedleg
05-19-2011, 02:41 PM
At this rate, I'm glad these jokers aren't the team the Reds get 18 times this year. That'd be depressing.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:41 PM
Arredondo does a nice job and we are off the to the 7th inning stretch.

OesterPoster
05-19-2011, 02:42 PM
I like saying Arr-eh-don-do. Rolls off the tongue much nicer than, say...Smith.

The Operator
05-19-2011, 02:43 PM
Why on Earth can't The Reds touch this crap Pirates team? They really should be ashamed of themselves. Everyone laughed when The Cardinals lost to bad teams last year, well The Reds are doing a pretty good job of it this year.

2-4 vs. Arizona and getting their teeth knocked in by The flippin' Pirates.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:46 PM
Phillips out at 2nd trying to stretch a double. I think the Cubs wore off on the Reds.

CTA513
05-19-2011, 02:46 PM
Can't give away outs when you are losing.

OesterPoster
05-19-2011, 02:46 PM
Come on. Down 3 runs, that's just stupid.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:47 PM
base hit. two hits bit only one runner to show for it.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:48 PM
LO to RF

The Operator
05-19-2011, 02:48 PM
Phillips out at 2nd trying to stretch a double. I think the Cubs wore off on the Reds.Simply inexcusable. Ugh.

But I guess it's okay, guys tend to press against a juggernaut like The Pirates.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:48 PM
Another hit. Three hits but nothing yet to show for them.

CTA513
05-19-2011, 02:49 PM
of course 2 more hits after he is thrown out at 2nd.

The Operator
05-19-2011, 02:49 PM
Thanks Brandon!

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:49 PM
Pitching change. Daniel McCutcheon into the game.

RichRed
05-19-2011, 02:49 PM
I love BP but I think he's maybe not as fast as he thinks he is.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:53 PM
GO to 2nd and that's the inning. 4-1 Bucs after 7.

Someone else can take over PBP. I will start my journey home in just a few minutes.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2011, 02:55 PM
Massett in the game.

MississippiRed
05-19-2011, 03:02 PM
Massett in the game.

Doesn't really seem like it.

CTA513
05-19-2011, 03:04 PM
Doesn't really seem like it.

Probably figured he follow the flow of the game.

The Operator
05-19-2011, 03:04 PM
Cardinals up 2-0 early in Houston.

Decent chance The Reds will fall back out of first today and all because they can't come to play against The Pirates.

757690
05-19-2011, 03:12 PM
The Pirates are the team version of Bill Hall. :(

CTA513
05-19-2011, 03:13 PM
Cardinals up 2-0 early in Houston.

Decent chance The Reds will fall back out of first today and all because they can't come to play against The Pirates.

Everyones favorite player Gerald Laird put them up 2-0

klw
05-19-2011, 03:36 PM
Bruce with 2nd HR on the day!!!!!!!

It it wasn't still 5-3 Bucs I would break out this celebratory dance
YouTube - ‪I'm not your daddy I'm your grandpa‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58IXbwCP4aw)

klw
05-19-2011, 03:40 PM
Ballgame. Bucs win 5-3

Kc61
05-19-2011, 03:40 PM
And this one doesn't belong to the Reds.

GAC
05-19-2011, 04:58 PM
We've lost five of six to this team this year. That's downright embarrassing.

When I saw today's lineup I figured we'd have a hard time with this game.

redsmetz
05-19-2011, 07:37 PM
I was at the game. I'm curious to hear from someone who watched on TV whether it seemed as if the umpire was absolutely squeezing the pitchers. From where we sat (Sec 430), so many pitches looked to be strikes and he'd call them balls.

Most disappointing part of the game was Phillips getting thrown out at 2nd. The play was right in front of him and when he saw how quickly the left fielder got to that ball, he should have hit the brakes. Just horrible horrible base running.

This Pirate team is quite a surprise. They may not last, but they're playing some good ball now. Hope we can snap out of this two game funk in Cleveland.

WVRedsFan
05-19-2011, 11:40 PM
I didn't get to see the game--these day games on weekdays are bad for me with no MLB network or FSN Ohio at the office. Is it just me or are they doing this every week. I can remember when there were only 2 or 3 a year and now it seems like it's every week.

Just a few questions. Why is it that the Pirates can throw out a pitcher with a 5+ ERA and stymie the Reds?

Why is Smith in the majors?

Poor Nick Masset. Melted under pressure?

Where did Dusty get this lineup? Oh well.

Baseball is a funny game. The trouble is, sometimes it's not a laughing matter. Lead gone in two days. And we head to Cleveland where the Indians are hot. Really a downer.

redsmetz
05-20-2011, 07:30 AM
I didn't get to see the game--these day games on weekdays are bad for me with no MLB network or FSN Ohio at the office. Is it just me or are they doing this every week. I can remember when there were only 2 or 3 a year and now it seems like it's every week.

Just a few questions. Why is it that the Pirates can throw out a pitcher with a 5+ ERA and stymie the Reds?

Why is Smith in the majors?

Poor Nick Masset. Melted under pressure?

Where did Dusty get this lineup? Oh well.

Baseball is a funny game. The trouble is, sometimes it's not a laughing matter. Lead gone in two days. And we head to Cleveland where the Indians are hot. Really a downer.

I'm not sure I understand the comment about Massett? Certainly he gave up the lead off home run. Sadly, that's going to happen. He walked a batter and was charged with an error, although I was surprised looking at the box score just now that he got charged for it. It was a bunt back to him which he turned and threw to Renteria who dropped the ball as the runner slid into the base (and him). I'm not certain I would have awarded an error, but it could have just as easily have gone to either player, or as I said, not at all. It wasn't a great outing (at that point, you really don't want to give up more runs there), but I'd hardly say he "melted under pressure."