6-7-11 Cubs at Reds, take 2

[edabbs44]

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[Edskin]

The leaguewide motto when playing the Cubs should be:

Just put the ball in play and enjoy the circus.

My word, they really suck.

[Chip R]

My word, they really suck.


I know. Isn't it great? :laugh:

[_Sir_Charles_]

Oh my. Aren't you two tempting fate. Karma has eyes and ears...and one heck of a bite. :O)

(not that I disagree or anything) *grin*

[Degenerate39]

The leaguewide motto when playing the Cubs should be:

Just put the ball in play and enjoy the circus.

My word, they really suck.

Volquez's motto when playing anyone is:

Strike everyone out or give up some home runs

[11larkin11]

Volquez's motto when playing anyone is:

Strike everyone out or give up some home runs

Woah, come on now. He walks people too!

Volquez is the pitching counterpart of Adam Dunn. Three true outcomes...

[hebroncougar]

Volquez cut his hair. I'm predicting a DOMINATING performance.

[MrCinatit]

The leaguewide motto when playing the Cubs should be:

Just put the ball in play and enjoy the circus.

My word, they really suck.



A team doesn't even have to put the ball in play for the circus to start. Starting a conversation with a Cub should be enough...starting a conversation involving two or more Cubs is the potential for a firestorm.

[JaxRed]

5 pitch K.... all were fairly high.

[757690]

Volquez cut his hair. I'm predicting a DOMINATING performance.

A reverse Samson.

[The Operator]

nice play by Cairo

[VR]

balls 1 and 2 were both within the strike zone on gameday. Where were they?

[RedsMan3203]

Wonder how many hat sizes Volquez had to go down once he cut his hair off?

[kbrake]

balls 1 and 2 were both within the strike zone on gameday. Where were they?

I thought both were strikes but the first one had a ton of late break and dropped into the zone right at the end. Thought it was a strike but wasn't surprised at all to see it called a ball.

[VR]

I thought both were strikes but the first one had a ton of late break and dropped into the zone right at the end. Thought it was a strike but wasn't surprised at all to see it called a ball.

thanks. The last thing EV needs is to be squeezed.

[JaxRed]

He's certainly more under control than he has been. When he misses he doesn't miss by that much. Hope he keeps it up.

[The Operator]

KK

[reds44]

Man I hope the new hairdo fixes Volquez's problems.

[VR]

Why did a scoreless first from EV just feel like a complete perfect game?

[kbrake]

Man I hope the new hairdo fixes Volquez's problems.

Think how dominating he could be if he would wear his hat correctly....

[reds44]

Think how dominating he could be if he would wear his hat correctly....
If he worse stirrups he'd be the best pitcher in the game.

[Matt700wlw]

Doug Davis, the Human Rain Delay.

[reds44]

Doug Davis, the Human Rain Delay.
I need a nap already.

[Red in Chicago]

joey has a black lamborghini

[_Sir_Charles_]

Wonder how many hat sizes Volquez had to go down once he cut his hair off?

Shame I've got no video, I'm curious to see the non-predator Volquez.

[Big Klu]

Wonder how many hat sizes Volquez had to go down once he cut his hair off?

I'm guessing he was a 7 5/8 or 7 3/4 before, and now he's a 7 1/4 or 7 3/8.

[JaxRed]

Bruce misplays a ball into a double....:(

[Matt700wlw]

Bruce misplays a ball into a double....:(

Chris said the ball got hung up in a swirling wind, and it wasn't as easy of a play as it looked.

I don't know.



It hasn't been windy all day :dunno:

[JaxRed]

That ball should be caught.... Volquez getting wilder.....

[Matt700wlw]

...and here we go

[WVRedsFan]

Wow. I couldn't even tell it was Volquez at first. From one extreme to another, I guess. Regardless, I just hope he pitches well.

As I say that, DeWitt drives in a run.

[reds44]

Volquez has thrown 0 offspeed pitches this inning.

[Matt700wlw]

Hasn't thrown a first pitch strike all inning...not sure he's thrown a second pitch strike

[reds44]

Bet that hurt.

[Red in Chicago]

wow, that looked painful...i'm surprised he's walking so well already...

[kbrake]

I can see why Volquez is leaning so heavily on the fastball.

[JaxRed]

Yeah, I thought maybe he broke something..

[reds44]

I can see why Volquez is leaning so heavily on the fastball.
Throw the change up. The curveball, not so sure haha.

[reds44]

Throw. Something. Off. Speed.

[reds44]

4 hits in 1 and a third. Leakesque.

[redsfaninbsg]

Needs to limit the damage here.

[reds44]

20 balls, 16 strikes.

[CTA513]

20 balls, 16 strikes.

He should have went with a mohawk.

[redsfaninbsg]

Already over 40 pitches, 3-2 count, bases juiced. Run for the hills.

[kbrake]

Have a feeling its about to turn ugly in here.

[_Sir_Charles_]

20 balls, 16 strikes.

Un-Leake-like.

[reds44]

He has lost all faith in his change up.

[redsfaninbsg]

Thank goodness, he swung at ball four it appeared.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

The position players must hate playing behind volquez.

[Matt700wlw]

He got out of it. That's progress, perhaps :)

[Red in Chicago]

barney swung at ball 4...thanks

[reds44]

21 strikes, 23 balls and he's only walked one guy. I don't know how that's possible lol

[Playadlc]

I don't think Edinson is going to win any WHIP titles in his career.

[Captain Hook]

barney swung at ball 4...thanks

The Cubs are the gift that keeps on giving.They've really become one of my favorite team but their fans are still idiots I sure.

[_Sir_Charles_]

So what was the injury delay Gameday's showing?

[_Sir_Charles_]

I like this new guy. Anybody have any info on this J. Gomes fellow?

[reds44]

Doug Davis is one guy I'll say advantage: Gomes to.

[reds44]

Is Rolen dead?

[kbrake]

So what was the injury delay Gameday's showing?

That Campana kid from the Cubs struggled with the 1st base bag running out a grounder.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Is Rolen dead?

Head cold / Strep throat. Out a couple days.

[Captain Hook]

I like this new guy. Anybody have any info on this J. Gomes fellow?

I hear he's a great team guy and quite the competitor.

[_Sir_Charles_]

That Campana kid from the Cubs struggled with the 1st base bag running out a grounder.

Thanks. I see he's still in so...not serious.

[_Sir_Charles_]

*sigh* The Brantley Trivial Pursuit begins anew. How can they spend SOOOOO much time on this garbage. He's advanced from blind guesses to his "system" and now to the "machine"...whatever THAT's supposed to be. Just talk BASEBALL!

/rant

[WVRedsFan]

It has to be in his head. If he can pitch so well at AAA (as people say), it must be something mental. And that's hard to combat.

[kbrake]

It has to be in his head. If he can pitch so well at AAA (as people say), it must be something mental. And that's hard to combat.

Or people in AAA swing at more pitches off the plate.

[reds44]

It has to be in his head. If he can pitch so well at AAA (as people say), it must be something mental. And that's hard to combat.
Or because minor league hitters can't touch his stuff.

[reds44]

Or people in AAA swing at more pitches off the plate.
What he said.

[reds44]

No idea how that wasn't a homer.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Who is this P. Janish fellow? :O)

[Strikes Out Looking]

Head cold / Strep throat. Out a couple days.

Strep as an adult stinks -- it takes much longer for a grown up to recover then a kid. Said as a father of kids who once got strep.

[Brutus]

Strep as an adult stinks -- it takes much longer for a grown up to recover then a kid. Said as a father of kids who once got strep.

It feels like I can read one chapter at a time of my book between Doug Davis pitches.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Stubby! 1-1 ballgame after Drew's double.

[WebScorpion]

Stubby! I thought that was out for a sec... doubles off the wall! :thumbup:

[reds44]

Yay runs!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Yay runs!

That would've been nice. But it's "Yay run!" instead.

[reds44]

Hey Jonny Gomes is a good defender.

[Captain Hook]

Gomes has to come get that.Looked like he was waiting for Paul to make a over the shoulder diving catch when he could've just ran to it for a somewhat routine catch.

[JaxRed]

Gomes giveth, Gomes taketh away

[RedsManRick]

Heisey please.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Heisey please.

I agree...but Heisey & Lewis haven't exactly been stellar out there in LF either. I was expecting much better defense from Chris...but I sure didn't see it.

[757690]

That was not in "no man's land" it was in "anyone but Gomes land"

[_Sir_Charles_]

Yessirree!

[reds44]

Gomes has to come get that.Looked like he was waiting for Paul to make a over the shoulder diving catch when he could've just ran to it for a somewhat routine catch.
He didn't wait for anything. He started back then rounded his angle coming in. He's just an awful defender, but that's not a surprise.

[reds44]

I agree...but Heisey & Lewis haven't exactly been stellar out there in LF either. I was expecting much better defense from Chris...but I sure didn't see it.
That's nice and all but Heisey is still a better hitter and fielder than Gomes.

Lewis, if they cut tomorrow I wouldn't care. He's a guy.

[edabbs44]

That's nice and all but Heisey is still a better hitter and fielder than Gomes.

Lewis, if they cut tomorrow I wouldn't care. He's a guy.

Heisey is not a better hitter than Gomes.

[WebScorpion]

Gomes has to come get that.Looked like he was waiting for Paul to make a over the shoulder diving catch when he could've just ran to it for a somewhat routine catch.His initial break was to the right, then he seemed like he had no idea where the ball went as he strolled in. :bang:

[reds44]

Heisey is not a better hitter than Gomes.
OPS' last year:
Heisey: .757
Gomes: .758

This year:
Heisey:.791
Gomes: .723

Career:
Gomes: .786
Heisey: .768

At worst, it's very close, and there is no doubting Heisey is far better in the field.

[_Sir_Charles_]

That's nice and all but Heisey is still a better hitter and fielder than Gomes.

Lewis, if they cut tomorrow I wouldn't care. He's a guy.

I know. Which is why I said "I agree". I only elaborated on my opinion.

[WebScorpion]

Jonny is effectively 0-for-2 today since he got a hit and gave up one and struck out. ;)

[Captain Hook]

He didn't wait for anything. He started back then rounded his angle coming in. He's just an awful defender, but that's not a surprise.

Either way it's the FSN broadcast teams job to call someone out for not making the catch but because it was Gomes they chose to ignore the fact that the ball should've been caught.They really hate the idea that he's a poor defender.

[_Sir_Charles_]

YES! I love a successful hit and run!

[reds44]

Either way it's the FSN broadcast teams job to call someone out for not making the catch but because it was Gomes they chose to ignore the fact that the ball should've been caught.They really hate the idea that he's a poor defender.
If it was Phillips Thom would have spent the next (literally) 2 hours talking about it.

[WebScorpion]

Miggy is the dogs bollocks! :thumbup:

[The Operator]

That'll do. 2-1

[_Sir_Charles_]

Sac fly to make it 2-1 Reds. Good job Razor.

[WebScorpion]

Sac fly to make it 2-1 Reds. Good job Razor.Small ball takes the lead! Woohoo! :clap:

[Captain Hook]

If it was Phillips Thom would have spent the next (literally) 2 hours talking about it.

Hey, what's up with the new avatar?Did I miss something?

[reds44]

Hey, what's up with the new avatar?Did I miss something?
Nope you did not haha.

[reds44]

Holy crap Janish almost doubled.

[edabbs44]

OPS' last year:
Heisey: .757
Gomes: .758

This year:
Heisey:.791
Gomes: .723

Career:
Gomes: .786
Heisey: .768

At worst, it's very close, and there is no doubting Heisey is far better in the field.

I've said it a bunch of times but when Chris Heisey does anything as a starter, I'll consider him a candidate to start.

Starting Heisey: .223/.300/.341
Sub Heisey: .365/.412/.671

The gap is too wide to ignore.

[reds44]

I've said it a bunch of times but when Chris Heisey does anything as a starter, I'll consider him a candidate to start.

Starting Heisey: .223/.300/.341
Sub Heisey: .365/.412/.671

The gap is too wide to ignore.
Making a small sample size smaller.

Purely coincidence. You really think a guy is better when he sits around for 2 hours and pinch hits?

[_Sir_Charles_]

I've said it a bunch of times but when Chris Heisey does anything as a starter, I'll consider him a candidate to start.

Starting Heisey: .223/.300/.341
Sub Heisey: .365/.412/.671

The gap is too wide to ignore.

I agree with this too. But I still think he deserves an extended look. After all of Gomes' struggles...he's never really gotten a week or 2 steady. Lewis got more starts than Heisey did after they pulled Gomes. I haven't looked, but it felt like considerably more than Chris.

[edabbs44]

Making a small sample size smaller.

Purely coincidence. You really think a guy is better when he sits around for 2 hours and pinch hits?

No...maybe he's just better on T/F tests than multiple choice ones.

[reds44]

No...maybe he's just better on T/F tests than multiple choice ones.
We're all better at those, unless it's the dreaded "if false put in the right answer" ones. I hate those.

[edabbs44]

I agree with this too. But I still think he deserves an extended look. After all of Gomes' struggles...he's never really gotten a week or 2 steady. Lewis got more starts than Heisey did after they pulled Gomes. I haven't looked, but it felt like considerably more than Chris.

Chris got 12 starts last August: .226/.333/.340
16 starts last Sept: .234/.258/.359

Maybe it isn't 100% fair, but you have to do something when you get chances. He's had some chances.

[Captain Hook]

I agree with this too. But I still think he deserves an extended look. After all of Gomes' struggles...he's never really gotten a week or 2 steady. Lewis got more starts than Heisey did after they pulled Gomes. I haven't looked, but it felt like considerably more than Chris.

I think I heard that Chris has started 19 games this year.Probably a little less then 2 starts a week.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Chris got 12 starts last August: .226/.333/.340
16 starts last Sept: .234/.258/.359

Maybe it isn't 100% fair, but you have to do something when you get chances. He's had some chances.

Not disputing that. But I was referring to this year. After how badly our LF production was...you'd think he'd at least get a SHOT. I'm still not sure what people see in Lewis.

[reds44]

You're taking a guy with less than 300 career ABs and making his sample size even smaller. It's silly.

[edabbs44]

I agree with this too. But I still think he deserves an extended look. After all of Gomes' struggles...he's never really gotten a week or 2 steady. Lewis got more starts than Heisey did after they pulled Gomes. I haven't looked, but it felt like considerably more than Chris.

And the guy hits when he is a sub. I'm not sure why inconsistent starts would affect him negatively.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Diving grab by Stubby!

[Gainesville Red]

I didn't think he had a shot at that one. Nice range.

[WebScorpion]

Drew Stubbs! The anti-Gomes! Steals a hit (probably a double) from *^$udome.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Renteria would've ...umm... missed that by more?

[Captain Hook]

Renteria would've ...umm... missed that by more?

Would've just stood there and watched it roll into CF.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Would've just stood there and watched it roll into CF.

Now come on...be fair. He would've taken a step and fallen over.

Is it a bad thing when your range is smaller than your wingspan?

[reds44]

That was a dirty curve.

[reds44]

That was a dirty change.

[_Sir_Charles_]

That was a dirty change.

No thanks. I did that about 10 minutes ago. Why would you feed a baby refried beans? Oh, the humanity! :eek:

[edabbs44]

You're taking a guy with less than 300 career ABs and making his sample size even smaller. It's silly.

In less than 300 ABs he doesn't hit starters and gets swallowed up by good teams.

[reds44]

In less than 300 ABs he doesn't hit starters and gets swallowed up by good teams.
Which really is a lot less than 300 ABs, which really means nothing.

[edabbs44]

Which really is a lot less than 300 ABs, which really means nothing.

So then your OPS comparison vs Gomes means nothing as well?

[Captain Hook]

So Heisey can hit except when he starts?Interesting.

[_Sir_Charles_]

So then your OPS comparison vs Gomes means nothing as well?

LOL. Yep, can't have it both ways. Except in Utah apparently.

[reds44]

So then your OPS comparison vs Gomes means nothing as well?
In the last two seasons, he's been a better baseball player than Jonny Gomes. It's not a lock that it will continue, but he's earned the chance to find out.

The thought of somebody being able to hit off the bench and not as a starter is laughable.

[_Sir_Charles_]

So Heisey can hit except when he starts?Interesting.

Weird...but thus far it's true.

Wait! Volquez with a .... HIT!?!

[WebScorpion]

The whole left field argument is moot IMO...the difference between two kinds of suck and mediocre is not going to be the difference in many games. Now if we had a guy who could RAKE.... :D

Now we got something going...2 on, no outs and the #2, 3, & 4 hitters up.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Time for some add on! 2 on, no outs after Volquez & Stubbs single.

[757690]

Ramirez just doesn't care anymore.

[_Sir_Charles_]

BB to jam the bases packed...for Mr. MVP

[Captain Hook]

The whole left field argument is moot IMO...the difference between two kinds of suck and mediocre is not going to be the difference in many games. Now if we had a guy who could RAKE.... :D

If the Reds had Reyes at SS,Kemp in LF and Chapman and Volquez could throw strike consistently they'd be the best team ever.Just pointing out that there are basically only four things we complain about.That's not too bad.

[edabbs44]

In the last two seasons, he's been a better baseball player than Jonny Gomes. It's not a lock that it will continue, but he's earned the chance to find out.

The thought of somebody being able to hit off the bench and not as a starter is laughable.

His production is also ridiculously weighted vs the Pirates.

Line vs pitchers who do not play for Pittsburgh: .243/.288/.386

[Superdude]

Did Thom whisper the F bomb to me after Volquez got the hit? Surely someone else caught that.

[757690]

Based loaded, no one out, Votto, Bruce up.

I've dreamed of moments like these. :)

[KYRedsFan]

Glad you finally brought up the F bomb. He definitely dropped it

[reds44]

His production is also ridiculously weighted vs the Pirates.

Line vs pitchers who do not play for Pittsburgh: .243/.288/.386
Care to give me Gomes' line against all pitchers who do not play for the Cubs this year?

[Captain Hook]

Glad you finally brought up the F bomb. He definitely dropped it

I caught it to.Don't think it's the first time he's done that.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Votto hasn't gotten a hit yet this season with the bases loaded. YET.

[edabbs44]

Care to give me Gomes' line against all pitchers who do not play for the Cubs this year?

I'm talking career.

[KYRedsFan]

I caught it to.Don't think it's the first time he's done that.

Raised in the Brenneman household for sure.

Cmon VOtto!

[edabbs44]

I caught it to.Don't think it's the first time he's done that.

Just went back...unsure if it was the F.

[HokieRed]

Need last year's MVP and this year's to turn this into a laugher right now.

[HokieRed]

Last year's did his job. Now it's this year's turn.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I'll take the walk. 3-1 Reds.

[reds44]

I'm talking career.
You're talking career with a guy who has less than 300 ABs. Gomes has 150 ABs this year alone.

[Captain Hook]

Just went back...unsure if it was the F.

Yeah maybe not but it was something.Seems like it was a Reds pitchers he was talking about then.

[Captain Hook]

Come on Bruce!!!!!

[_Sir_Charles_]

*sigh* Bruce K's

[WebScorpion]

*sigh* Bruce K'sHe couldn't resist the 84mph heat up in his eyes. :(

[HokieRed]

Be careful what you wish for. With a jack here Jonny cements his spot for the rest of the year.

[reds44]

Or here edabbs, take Gomes' OPS the last two years but remove May of 2010. This is what you are doing to Heisey.

[alloverjr]

Be careful what you wish for. With a jack here Jonny cements his spot for the rest of the year.

Maybe we should hope for a K ;)

[11larkin11]

At this point, we cannot beat the Pirates. So I'll take Heisey vs. The Pirates every time we play them.

[edabbs44]

You're talking career with a guy who has less than 300 ABs. Gomes has 150 ABs this year alone.

Chris has 15+ PAs vs 8 teams in his career:

Cubs: .616
Rockies: .444
Astros: .820
Brewers: .683
Phillies: .535
Pirates: 1.272
Giants: .388
Cards: .667

Throw in interleague if you want: .496

When the sample is small, it doesn't mean it's wrong.

[edabbs44]

At this point, we cannot beat the Pirates. So I'll take Heisey vs. The Pirates every time we play them.

I am down.

[reds44]

Chris has 15+ PAs vs 8 teams in his career:

Cubs: .616
Rockies: .444
Astros: .820
Brewers: .683
Phillies: .535
Pirates: 1.272
Giants: .388
Cards: .667

Throw in interleague if you want: .496

When the sample is small, it doesn't mean it's wrong.
You're taking completely random numbers basically. And Gomes' OPS since the ASB last year is .708.

[reds44]

Admire that flyout a little more, Jonny.

4-1.

[edabbs44]

Or here edabbs, take Gomes' OPS the last two years but remove May of 2010. This is what you are doing to Heisey.

If there was a reason why we should (like if he was playing in Coors circa 1995 or facing AA level pitching the entire month) I may agree.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Deep sac fly to the wall. Almost. 4-1 Reds.

[Matt700wlw]

Gomes' little walk there would have sent the Cardinals into a frenzy.

[paintmered]

Admire that flyout a little more, Jonny.

4-1.

No kidding.

[edabbs44]

You're taking completely random numbers basically. And Gomes' OPS since the ASB last year is .708.

They aren't random. You may want to think they are, but they aren't.

[WebScorpion]

Be careful what you wish for. With a jack here Jonny cements his spot for the rest of the year.What does he get for a deep sac fly? ;)

[HokieRed]

Have to give him credit. Gomes did his job.

[Captain Hook]

Gomes has been hitting the ball real hard lately.

[edabbs44]

What does he get for a deep sac fly? ;)

One week.

[HokieRed]

What does he get for a deep sac fly? ;)

A month.

[reds44]

They aren't random. You may want to think they are, but they aren't.
I'm not arguing this anymore. Jonny Gomes is bad no matter how good you want him to be.

The end.

[edabbs44]

Gomes has been hitting the ball real hard lately.

He has looked a lot better since his hiatus. Maybe whatever they did worked, or it may just be his babip straightening out.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Gomes' little walk there would have sent the Cardinals into a frenzy.

He did that on the dinger the other day too. When you're struggling like he is....you don't preen & strut.

[757690]

Juiced bases no one out, you need two runs minimum.

Was really hoping for more than the minimum there, but I'll take it.

[edabbs44]

I'm not arguing this anymore. Jonny Gomes is bad no matter how good you want him to be.

The end.

Gomes is no worse than what's in house right now. That's really as far as i go with my backing of him.

[edabbs44]

He did that on the dinger the other day too. When you're struggling like he is....you don't preen & strut.

Or, you can be Bryce Harper...

[Captain Hook]

He did that on the dinger the other day too. When you're struggling like he is....you don't preen & strut.

Next time the Reds play the Cards he can do it all he wants.That is if he's hitting balls out.

[reds44]

Gomes is no worse than what's in house right now. That's really as far as i go with my backing of him.
You know that's he's better than Alonso?

It's hard to be worse than .708 with his defense, which he has been for a long long time now.

[paintmered]

I turned the game on five minutes ago. How has Volquez looked? I see only one run given up. Is he effective or are the Cubs doing their part?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Or, you can be Bryce Harper...

Enlighten me? Does he do something ridiculous?

[reds44]

I turned the game on five minutes. How has Volquez looked? I see only one run given up. Is he effective or are the Cubs doing their part?
Bad in the second, fine everywhere else.

I wouldn't call this a step forward though. I think a team other than the Cubs would have more than one on the board right now.

Better than the alternative, though.

[757690]

He has looked a lot better since his hiatus. Maybe whatever they did worked, or it may just be his babip straightening out.

Personally, I think most times when a players BABIP straightens out, it means just that, that you made an improvement or correction.

[edabbs44]

Enlighten me? Does he do something ridiculous?

Blew a kiss to the pitcher while rounding the bases.

[reds44]

Get the bullpen up.

[The Operator]

Volquez is going right after these guys with the lead. :p

[_Sir_Charles_]

Blew a kiss to the pitcher while rounding the bases.

Oh my. That's just begging to be beaned.

[Captain Hook]

Volquez at 86 pitches.Hope he gets through this inning.

[Matt700wlw]

Oh my. That's just begging to be beaned.

The Cardinals may have rioted the clubhouse had he done that to Carpenter.

[_Sir_Charles_]

YESSIRREE!

[The Operator]

Pitcher's best friend, baby.

[reds44]

Phillips threw a changeup to first.

[edabbs44]

You know that's he's better than Alonso?

It's hard to be worse than .708 with his defense, which he has been for a long long time now.

My money is they would be break even. Alonso's greatest value for the 2011 Reds will be in a trade.

[The Operator]

Phillips threw a changeup to first.He was saying "Remember when you threw these, Edinson?"

[WebScorpion]

Pitcher's best friend! DP! 2 outs, nobody on now. :D

[reds44]

89 pitches thru 6 for Volquez.

Let him throw another.

[The Operator]

Oh my. That's just begging to be beaned.If he does that stuff in the bigs he will be. No question about it.

[edabbs44]

The Cardinals may have rioted the clubhouse had he done that to Carpenter.


With the game scoreless in the sixth inning, Harper hit a home run to right-center field and took a few seconds to admire his handiwork from the batters' box before slowly tossing his bat aside and heading to first.

Greensboro pitcher Zachary Neal apparently didn't care for Harper's display and let Harper know how he felt as he rounded the bases, according to media reports. Harper replied by puckering up in Neal's direction as he reached home plate.

On Harper's next trip to the plate, with Hagerstown trailing 3-2 in the eighth, Greensboro relief pitcher Grant Dayton backed Harper off the plate with a high and inside first pitch. Harper connected with the second, but his long fly ball was caught at the fence.


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6634378

[Captain Hook]

89 pitches thru 6 for Volquez.

Let him throw another.

He's due up this inning not that it matters to me.I think you take what he's given tonight and be grateful.

[reds44]

YouTube - ‪Bryce Harper Blows Kiss To Pitcher After Hitting A Home Rum‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApkT5TZd9gA)

ehehe

[HokieRed]

89 pitches thru 6 for Volquez.

Let him throw another.

I'd let him work to 115 if he continues to throw the ball well.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Edinson's only allowed 1 run, 6 hits. Surprisingly only 2 walks. But he STILL needs to get better control. 89 pitches...49 strikes, 40 balls. Living outside the strikezone WAAAY too much for my liking. He's gotten decent results...but I wouldn't say he's throwing the ball well.

[Matt700wlw]

Cubs defense

:)

[edabbs44]

Cubs defense

:)

Is it me or is everyone a little too in love with Castro this year?

[WebScorpion]

I think the Cubs were a good first game for Volquie. They're kind of halfway between a AAA team and a Major League team. :laugh:

[_Sir_Charles_]

Is it me or is everyone a little too in love with Castro this year?

He's got a heckuva bat...but I don't see him long at short. That defense is atrocious.

[reds44]

Is it me or is everyone a little too in love with Castro this year?

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg620/scaled.php?tn=0&server=620&filename=5e8tl.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

And he came up when he was 20.

[edabbs44]

Such a cherrypicked stat...where's Janish???

[reds44]

Such a cherrypicked stat...where's Janish???
Right below the Astros pitchers haha

[reds44]

For anybody who wants to know why Volquez dominates AAA, look at what he's done to that Campana character tonight.

[_Sir_Charles_]

KKKKK

[edabbs44]

It's quiet...maybe too quiet.

[_Sir_Charles_]

We're hunting wabbits.

[Captain Hook]

So are we back to Wood is the odd man out when Homer comes back?Everyone should keep in mind that it's just one start against the Cubs.Still, nice performance turned in by Volquez tonight.

[reds44]

Volquez: 7 IP, 7 H, 2 BB, 5 K
61 strikes, 44 balls.

[reds44]

So are we back to Wood is the odd man out when Homer comes back?Everyone should keep in mind that it's just one start against the Cubs.Still, nice performance turned in by Volquez tonight.
Wood and Volquez are the two on the bubble. They'll be more time, but yes right now I'd say Wood is the odd man out.

[edabbs44]

Wood and Volquez are the two on the bubble. They'll be more time, but yes right now I'd say Wood is the odd man out.

What a turn of events that would be.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Wood and Volquez are the two on the bubble. They'll be more time, but yes right now I'd say Wood is the odd man out.

Why burn Wood's option. Volquez & Leake have already used this year. I'd be fine with either of them going back. I think Leake will have more consistent success of the 3...but he could also use the experience in the minors the most I'd say. I'd give Travis a few more starts before we make that call. As for Volquez...he could certainly use more time to fine tune his control....if that's possible.

[reds44]

Why burn Wood's option. Volquez & Leake have already used this year. I'd be fine with either of them going back. I think Leake will have more consistent success of the 3...but he could also use the experience in the minors the most I'd say. I'd give Travis a few more starts before we make that call.
Whoever is pitching the worst will go. Homer is going to need at least 2 starts in the minors before coming back, if not 3. There's still time.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Brandon! Leadoff double.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Whoever is pitching the worst will go. Homer is going to need at least 2 starts in the minors before coming back, if not 3. There's still time.

Why? They didn't do that when they sent Leake down.

[reds44]

What a turn of events that would be.
It appears to have worked for Leake. After one start it worked for Volquez. Why not give Wood a trip on the bus tour?

The problem is, whoever is the next to go down might be down for awhile. I get the feeling the rotation is starting to work itself out

[_Sir_Charles_]

1st & 3rd with no outs for Bruce after Votto singles.

[reds44]

Why? They didn't do that when they sent Leake down.
Yes they did?

[edabbs44]

Here's Jonny!

[HokieRed]

Jonny with the bases loaded. Again, be careful what you wish for.

[kaldaniels]

Why burn Wood's option. Volquez & Leake have already used this year. I'd be fine with either of them going back. I think Leake will have more consistent success of the 3...but he could also use the experience in the minors the most I'd say. I'd give Travis a few more starts before we make that call. As for Volquez...he could certainly use more time to fine tune his control....if that's possible.

If Wood is the odd man out, give me a match, I'll burn his option.

[_Sir_Charles_]

It appears to have worked for Leake. After one start it worked for Volquez. Why not give Wood a trip on the bus tour?

The problem is, whoever is the next to go down might be down for awhile. I get the feeling the rotation is starting to work itself out

Wood's gotten plenty of experience in the minors...I'm not sure what he could gain from a AAA trip. Volquez went to get his head straight. Leake to get him the experience. Not seeing the purpose for Travis.

[edabbs44]

Wood's gotten plenty of experience in the minors...I'm not sure what he could gain from a AAA trip. Volquez went to get his head straight. Leake to get him the experience. Not seeing the purpose for Travis.

Because he is pitching the worst and there just isn't the room?

[Captain Hook]

Wood's gotten plenty of experience in the minors...I'm not sure what he could gain from a AAA trip. Volquez went to get his head straight. Leake to get him the experience. Not seeing the purpose for Travis.

Because there's five that's better then he is?

[reds44]

Wood's gotten plenty of experience in the minors...I'm not sure what he could gain from a AAA trip. Volquez went to get his head straight. Leake to get him the experience. Not seeing the purpose for Travis.
Leake did not go down to get experience. He went down for the same reason Volquez did. And if Wood goes he'll go down for the same reason Volquez and Leake did.

[edabbs44]

Gomes just looked horrendous on that change

[_Sir_Charles_]

Yes they did?

Come on. Leake was worse than Volquez when he went down? That's not even CLOSE to the truth. (Leake is obviously not a reliever...so I'm not looking at that stuff...only starting)

[reds44]

Should have posed his way back to the dugout.

[edabbs44]

twice

[HokieRed]

Time for Heisey every day.

[edabbs44]

Here's Jonny!

There goes Jonny!

[reds44]

Holy crap!

[_Sir_Charles_]

:jump: MIGGY!!!!! Grand salami!!!! 8-1 Redlegs!

[The Operator]

Cairo! Grand salami!

[kaldaniels]

Oh yeah. This sex is on fire!

[edabbs44]

I love this dude

[HokieRed]

Put Miggy in left field.

[The Operator]

I wish we could play The Cubs about, oh, every day of the season.

[Matt700wlw]

The Reds need to play the Cubs for the rest of the season.

[reds44]

Put Miggy in left field.
Couldn't be any worse.

[Captain Hook]

Anyone here think that Rolen would've done that?Put Miggy at 3B.

[Quatitos]

Oh yeah. This sex is on fire!

:D

[paintmered]

YouTube - ‪southpark - nice‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgoXUzIwXk0)

[redsmetz]

I wish we could play The Cubs about, oh, every day of the season.

Heck, let's play two!!!

[Captain Hook]

Anyone here think that Rolen would've done that?Put Miggy at 3B.

BTW I'm only kidding.Kind of.

[The Operator]

Man, Cairo's HR was a SHOT. He got every bit of that.

[lollipopcurve]

Miggy Cairo in his 16th year in the bigs and still getting it done. Impressive.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Leadoff single off of Masset, but then he sits them down 3 in a row.

[_Sir_Charles_]

HELLO HELLO HELLO, ECHO ECHO ECHO, now batting for Pedro Borbon, Manny Mota mota mota mota.

*crickets*

Name that movie. :O)