6/14/2011 Reds @ Dodgers

[nate]

Tonight!

[nate]

Redlegs:
Stubbs, CF
Phillips, B, 2B
Votto, 1B
Bruce, RF
Rolen, 3B
Heisey, LF
Hernandez, R, C
Janish, SS
Cueto, P

Trolleydodgers:
Gordon, SS
Carroll, 2B
Ethier, RF
Kemp, CF
Loney, 1B
Uribe, 3B
Barajas, C
Gwynn, LF
Kershaw, P

[Captain Hook]

Looking forward to tonights pitching matchup.Could be a good one.

[fearofpopvol1]

anyone else have the package? this infuriates me. the game is on 2 channels and both channels, there are 2 games in progress in the 6th inning. that means i should plan to miss at least 3 innings of this game.

what's worse is that the phillies/marlins game is a blowout.

[edabbs44]

anyone else have the package? this infuriates me. the game is on 2 channels and both channels, there are 2 games in progress in the 6th inning. that means i should plan to miss at least 3 innings of this game.

what's worse is that the phillies/marlins game is a blowout.

They usually put the game on another channel.

[nate]

anyone else have the package? this infuriates me. the game is on 2 channels and both channels, there are 2 games in progress in the 6th inning. that means i should plan to miss at least 3 innings of this game.

what's worse is that the phillies/marlins game is a blowout.

KCAL 9 here!

:cool:

[Captain Hook]

Nationals just got 6 runs in the 7th to go up on the Cards 8-6.

[nate]

Chat is open!

[redsfaninbsg]

Reds go down in order in the top of the first.

[fearofpopvol1]

They usually put the game on another channel.

That would be the logical thing to do. No such luck here. At least not so far.

[redsfaninbsg]

1B for Gordon.

[redsfaninbsg]

Carroll BB, 2 on none out.

[redsfaninbsg]

6-4 FC, probably an error on Phillips allows Gordon to score. 1-0 LA.

[redsfaninbsg]

5-4-3 DP by Kemp ends the inning, 1-0 LA on an unearned run.

[edabbs44]

BP having a rough go of it on turning the DP. Votto with the nice scoop.

1-0 LA.

[AmarilloRed]

A double play to end the inning.

[redsfaninbsg]

I'm going E4, it may be a 1B for Bruce.

[redsfaninbsg]

It is E4.

[redsfaninbsg]

6-4-3 DP, 2 out none on.

[edabbs44]

My body hurts watching Rolen try to beat out a DP.

[Big Klu]

anyone else have the package? this infuriates me. the game is on 2 channels and both channels, there are 2 games in progress in the 6th inning. that means i should plan to miss at least 3 innings of this game.

what's worse is that the phillies/marlins game is a blowout.

The game is also supposed to be on MLB Network, but the Yankees game is now three and a half hours old and only in the seventh inning.

I'm also having cable problems with FoxSports Ohio--the signal is being scrambled. I called Time Warner, and they said if it's still like that tomorrow to give them a call. :angry:

[redsfaninbsg]

Heisey K's.

[VR]

The game is also supposed to be on MLB Network, but the Yankees game is now three and a half hours old and only in the seventh inning.

I'm also having cable problems with FoxSports Ohio--the signal is being scrambled. I called Time Warner, and they said if it's still like that tomorrow to give them a call. :angry:

I'm in Southern Washington and the game on MLB is blacked out....with the only other option for the game on MLB Extra Innings.

I don't get it.

[redsfaninbsg]

Cardinals lose 8-6. Loney F9.

[redsfaninbsg]

Uribe K's.

[CrackerJack]

nice pitch - made 'em look silly, silly I say

[redsfaninbsg]

Barajas is out 5-3.

[redsfaninbsg]

Cubs have tied the Brewers at 4 all in the 8th.

[redsfaninbsg]

Ramon out F8.

[redsfaninbsg]

Janish out 1-3.

[redsfaninbsg]

Cueto down F8.

[mbgrayson]

I have DirecTV and the only channel the game is on channel 661 in standard def only right now....

[redsfaninbsg]

Gwynn GO 1-3.

[redsfaninbsg]

Kershaw 1B, a 12 pitch AB............

[redsfaninbsg]

I have DirecTV and the only channel the game is on channel 661 in standard def only right now....

661-1 is what I have the hd feed in.

[redsfaninbsg]

Gordon out 6-4 on the FC.

[Caveat Emperor]

Kershaw 1B, a 12 pitch AB............

One of those most pathetic sequences I've seen from a Reds pitcher in years. Cueto basically gave up 10% of his start and STILL didn't record an out on the pitcher.

He'd get an earful from me if I were his manager. You should never go 3-2 to an opposing pitcher, much less double-digit for pitches.

[redsfaninbsg]

Carroll out 6-4, inning over.

[VR]

I have DirecTV and the only channel the game is on channel 661 in standard def only right now....

Not my market.

This is aggravating.

[Big Klu]

Yankees game on MLB is now almost four hours old and in the top of the ninth.

[signalhome]

One of those most pathetic sequences I've seen from a Reds pitcher in years. Cueto basically gave up 10% of his start and STILL didn't record an out on the pitcher.

He'd get an earful from me if I were his manager. You should never go 3-2 to an opposing pitcher, much less double-digit for pitches.

Very disheartening outcome. Kershaw did a great job in that AB, but it should have never even came to a 3-1 count.

[redsfaninbsg]

Stubbs 1B, infield hit.

[redsfaninbsg]

Phillips P4 foul out on one pitch.

[redsfaninbsg]

Stubbs steals second.

[mbgrayson]

661-1 is what I have the hd feed in.

Thanks, that worked....

[Big Klu]

Yankees game is finally over. Let's see if MLB sends us to the Reds game.

[redsfaninbsg]

Votto K's on a curveball again.

[mbgrayson]

Votto K's on a curveball again.

That is one tough pitch from a lefty to a lefty....

[redsfaninbsg]

Bruce walks, two on, two out.

[redsfaninbsg]

Rolen doubles in Stubbs, Bruce nailed at the plate, 1-1. Somebody else take over PbP.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Dang. Bruce nailed at the dish. 1-1 game.

[VR]

Dang. Bruce nailed at the dish. 1-1 game.

Close play?

[Kc61]

Jay looked safe to me. But I'm not neutral.

[dougdirt]

Close play?

He beat the throw, but had to slide around the plate some. His front leg was over home plate when he was tagged, but it never touched the plate.

[reds44]

Please be okay, Jay.

[Caveat Emperor]

Close play?

He was safe. DVR confirms, he had has lead slide foot on the plate before the catcher even went for the tag.

BS call.

[dougdirt]

Jay looked safe to me. But I'm not neutral.

He was out. Watched it in slow mo.

[Caveat Emperor]

He was out. Watched it in slow mo.

I did, he was clearly safe IMO.

[dougdirt]

He was safe. DVR confirms, he had has lead slide foot on the plate before the catcher even went for the tag.

BS call.

Might be time for some new glasses. He was out.

[reds44]

He was clearly out.

Run him over next time.

[kaldaniels]

That mean catcher, why didn't he step aside and let Jay score? Boo!

[mbgrayson]

Clearly out. The call was correct.

[VR]

That mean catcher, why didn't he step aside and let Jay score? Boo!

Wait until Mike Matheny finds out.

[kaldaniels]

Johnny!

[reds44]

Haha I love Johnny.

[Hoosier Red]

Who would have thought that on a play where Jay Bruce and Scott Rolen were running around the bases, the correct play would be to throw Jay Bruce out.

Baseball's funny sometimes.

[Slyder]

What a heads up play by Cueto!

[Superdude]

Cueto throwing smoke tonight. Is he rotating way further back in his windup recently or am I seeing things? He looks totally different.

[mbgrayson]

After 4 innings, Reds 1, Dodgers 1.

Kershaw at 69 pitches, 43 strikes.
Cueto at 61 pitches, 44 strikes.



Gameday is running way behind for me tonight.

[mbgrayson]

Reds out 1-2-3- in the 5th.

[Kc61]

Bottom five 1-1.

[Kc61]

Cards and Brewers lost. Big opportunity here.

[VR]

What a heads up play by Cueto!

What happened?

[Kc61]

One each thru five. Reds up.

[mbgrayson]

After 5 innings, Reds 1, Dodgers 1.

Kershaw at 75 pitches, 48 strikes.
Cueto at 73 pitches, 52 strikes.

[mbgrayson]

What happened?

In the 4th Kemp hit a bloop single over Votto into short right, and Votto ran out to get the ball. Kemp rounded 1st, testing whether to go to 2nd, and Cueto snuck in behind him. Votto threw to Phillips, who threw to Johnny, and they got Kemp out in a rundown.

[Kc61]

One out Stubbs up.

Hit.

[Kc61]

Phillips up. Stubbs on first. One out.

Stolen base.

[mbgrayson]

Stubbs steals second and is called safe by the ump, who looked to be out of position. Replay was very close, may have been out.

[kaldaniels]

I don't even know who said it...but where are all you guys who wanted Stubbs to ride the pine tonight?

[Kc61]

I don't even know who said it...but where are all you guys who wanted Stubbs to ride the pine tonight?

I did. Phillips fans.

[kaldaniels]

Alright, Votto's looked silly twice. Rarely happens 3 times.

[mbgrayson]

Kershaw gets Phillips on a NASTY curve.

[Kc61]

Votto flies out. Nada.

[kaldaniels]

I did. Phillips fans.

Hopefully tonight will buy him some goodwill from you.

[reds44]

Whoops

[The Operator]

Cueto should have put it in his pocket. Oh well.

[mbgrayson]

Cueto Ks Ethier to end the inning, stranding Dee Gordon at 3rd.

After 6 innings, Reds 1, Dodgers 1.

Kershaw at 88 pitches, 58 strikes.
Cueto at 85 pitches, 61 strikes.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

Cueto pitching like an ace tonight.

Pitching with attitude as well.

Love it.

[VR]

In the 4th Kemp hit a bloop single over Votto into short right, and Votto ran out to get the ball. Kemp rounded 1st, testing whether to go to 2nd, and Cueto snuck in behind him. Votto threw to Phillips, who threw to Johnny, and they got Kemp out in a rundown.

thanks mb

[Kc61]

Hopefully tonight will buy him some goodwill from you.

Ok.

Just wanted to rest him.

But ok.

[mbgrayson]

Last couple innings the Reds stopped working Kershaw. They had his pitch count fairly high after 4 innings. They could have had him out by now with a little patience.

[reds44]

Play that man everyday.

Every. Day.

[Kc61]

Dodgers should walk Ramon.

[reds44]

And this is where having Paul Janish kills you.

[Kc61]

Ramon up Heisey on second.

Ramon now intentionally walked.

[The Voice of IH]

This is a huge at bat of the season here. we already missed out once!

[WVRedsFan]

Janish has been warm. Please hit.

[Captain Hook]

paul did come through in this situation last night.

.429 with 2 outs and risp

[reds44]

Pfft

[The Voice of IH]

wow, this is big here.

[Kc61]

Out.

[mbgrayson]

Janish grounds into a 6-4 force of Ramon at 2nd....

[CTA513]

Easy out at 2nd with Ramon running.

[Kc61]

Reds need to clear Kemp here.

[kaldaniels]

Probably Cueto's last inning with him leading off the 8th.

[redsfaninbsg]

At some point, the Reds have to win one of these close games right?

[WVRedsFan]

I hope theDust doesn't stay with Cueto too long.

[mbgrayson]

I hope theDust doesn't stay with Cueto too long.

We'll only know in hindsight, as usual...

With the bullpen meltdowns in San Francisco, I expect that Dusty will have a slow hook.

[kaldaniels]

I hope theDust doesn't stay with Cueto too long.

No beef, but curious.

It's not an absolute, but do you not pop in game threads until late innings by design?

[Kc61]

I hope theDust doesn't stay with Cueto too long.

Just no Arredondo.

Kemp up and he fans.

[WVRedsFan]

No beef, but curious.

It's not an absolute, but do you not pop in game threads until late innings by design?
Been busy lately. Tonight was election day in my town. Over the last two weeks, I've been campaigning at night, thus the late entry to the game thread. I was re-elected to a second term on the city council tonight. I now promise to be here earlier.

[kaldaniels]

The term has been thrown around and there is no set definition.

But Cueto has been an ace this year.

[reds44]

Cueto is pretty good.

[Kc61]

Loney with a long at bat finally fans. Cueto is awesome so far.

[WVRedsFan]

The term has been thrown around and there is no set definition.

But Cueto has been an ace this year.
Totally agree.

[kaldaniels]

Been busy lately. Tonight was election day in my town. Over the last two weeks, I've been campaigning at night, thus the late entry to the game thread. I was re-elected to a second term on the city council tonight. I now promise to be here earlier.

Councilman WVRedsFan. Good for you. :beerme:

[Superdude]

Welsh standing strong opposite years of statistical research. Low BABIP baby!

[reds44]

Bruce....uhhhh

[Kc61]

Uribe doubles off the wall.

[kaldaniels]

The term has been thrown around and there is no set definition.

But Cueto has been an ace this year.

D'oh. I thought there were 3 outs when I wrote that.

[Red in Chicago]

should have been caught

[CTA513]

Bruce pulled a Stubbs at the wall and Uribe gets a double.

[kaldaniels]

Uribe doubles off the wall.

If that's intentional comedy thats gold. :laugh:

Oh no...did you edit?

[WVRedsFan]

Councilman WVRedsFan. Good for you. :beerme:

Thanks!

[signalhome]

Looked like he took his eye off the ball and looked at the wall. Absolutely should have caught that. Awful play.

[redsfaninbsg]

Way to stick with it.

[reds44]

Thank God Barajas is slower than death.

[Kc61]

If that's intentional comedy thats gold. :laugh:

Typo corrected. Was funny.

[mbgrayson]

After 7 innings, Reds 1, Dodgers 1.

Kershaw at 104 pitches, 67 strikes.
Cueto at 103 pitches, 72 strikes.

[WVRedsFan]

Cairo to hit for Cueto?

[Kc61]

Cmon Reds. Can't take these close games.

[kaldaniels]

Rolen flips it from 3rd to 1st like nothing.

[VR]

Uribe doubles off the wall.

doubles or dribbles?

[Kc61]

doubles or dribbles?

Ok, got it.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Cueto done. :clap: Great job Johnny! GREAT!

Cairo PH'ing. Hawksworth on the mound.

[reds44]

Love me some Miggy.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Cairo leads off with a single.

[Kc61]

Cairo singles.

[WVRedsFan]

Johnny is this staff's ace. And Cairo gets a hit.

[signalhome]

Reds need to put one across this inning and get Cueto the win. He deserves it.

[VR]

Just stunned to see the way Cueto has taken command on the mound this year. Wasn't sure he had it in him.

[Captain Hook]

Johnny is this staff's ace. And Cairo gets a hit.

It would be nice to get our ace a win tonight.

[WVRedsFan]

Reds need to put one across this inning and get Cueto the win. He deserves it.

Absolutely.

[Cedric]

What in the world? Ok I have to calm down now. Bunting with Stubbs again?

[reds44]

Stubbs needs to get the bunt down and then run really really fast.

[signalhome]

What in the world? Ok I have to calm down now. Bunting with Stubbs again?

I feel like I've seen this movie before. It doesn't end well.

[redsfaninbsg]

Phillips is due.

[WVRedsFan]

Good job by Drew

[mbgrayson]

Sac bunt nicely by Stubbs. Good basic baseball.

[kaldaniels]

I don't always agree with Welsh, but I always nod in agreement when he begins his "you aren't fooling anyone, just square around and bunt" schpeel.

[reds44]

Atta boy Brandon. Joey time.

[redsfaninbsg]

Votto has to come through.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Way to go Brandon. Single puts 'em on 1st & 3rd for Votto.

[mbgrayson]

Phillips singles hard to left, and Cairo is held (wisely) at 3rd.

[kaldaniels]

BP looked bad at the plate all night until that pitch. Good for him.

[Kc61]

We are about to test the consecutive lefty hitters theory.

[WVRedsFan]

Votto may break bad after not having to look at Kershaw this time.

[kaldaniels]

One job right now for the MVP.

[Wheelhouse]

The way Vin Scully pronounces Cueto's name makes me want to jump out the window.

[reds44]

MVP.

[redsfaninbsg]

MVP, man he's clutch.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Joey! Love it. Single to plate Cairo. 2-1 Reds.

1st & 3rd again...now for Bruce

[nate]

Most
Votto
Player

[kaldaniels]

Votto's had that crazy look in his eye lately.

And that's a good thing.

[mbgrayson]

Votto lines a single into right-center. 2-1 Reds, 1st and 3rd, 1 out.

[Cedric]

MVP

[WVRedsFan]

The way Vin Scully pronounces Cueto's name makes me want to jump out the window.Love to get that feed. Vin is my hero.

[Kc61]

Not satisfied. Cmon Bruce.

[Wheelhouse]

Sweet.

[VR]

After 10 years of watching sure thing hitters come up big against the Reds.....it's so nice to have Votto. So unbelievably nice.

[WebScorpion]

The way Vin Scully pronounces Cueto's name makes me want to jump out the window.Coo-wet-oh. I was thinking the same thing....I love Vin Scully, but not digging his pronunciation of his name.
:evil:

[kaldaniels]

Don Mattingly.

Worthy manager, or got the job b/c of his name?

I'm torn.

[Kc61]

Bruce fans, pitching change.

[reds44]

"It's almost impossible to watch this kid swing the way he did in May and watch him revert back to what he did in April."--Marty B on Bruce

Get over it old man.

[WebScorpion]

I can't believe they use Eldred as a loogy...that kid's got some stuff. :eek:

[kaldaniels]

"It's almost impossible to watch this kid swing the way he did in May and watch him revert back to what he did in April."--Marty B on Bruce

Get over it old man.

Even for Marty, that's a bit much if you ask me.

[Kc61]

Even for Marty, that's a bit much if you ask me.

Needed the fly ball there.

[signalhome]

"It's almost impossible to watch this kid swing the way he did in May and watch him revert back to what he did in April."--Marty B on Bruce

Get over it old man.

Bruce has a .373 OBP in June. He isn't hitting for power (.372 SLG), but the good thing is that he's still being productive and helping his team by getting on base.

Edit: Should have added that in April, his OBP was .301. His June has been nothing like his April.

[kaldaniels]

Needed the fly ball there.

Hound him for that AB, sure.

But revert to April? c'mon

[mbgrayson]

Interestingly, Bruce's power dropped as soon as he was moved to the #4 slot.

[Chip R]

I would rather see him strike out in that situation than hit into a double play.

[Kc61]

Hound him for that AB, sure.

But revert to April? c'mon

Bruce has been great. Marty is just being controversial.

[Kc61]

Ondrusek.

Well rested.

[WVRedsFan]

Jay did look clueless there. Lack of concentration?

[VR]

A lot of BP options for the Reds right now.

Amazing what happens when the starters keep throwing up innings and keep the BP rested. Getting Chapman and LeCure back gives the Reds the pen to take them into the postseason.

Bray, Ondrusek, Massett, Chapman, 2011 version of CoCo.

That's scary if they are all right.

[redsfaninbsg]

I would have went with Massett here but that's me and I need fantasy stats.

[signalhome]

Hound him for that AB, sure.

But revert to April? c'mon

Spot on. He had a 10:25 BB:K ratio in April; it's 8:12 so far in June, and was 11:21 in May. Looks to me that so far the plate discipline is even better than in May, but the hits just haven't been falling. Before yesterday's game, his LD% for June was 29.4% (if I calculated that correctly, somebody may want to check that). That's pretty good.

[WebScorpion]

I would rather see him strike out in that situation than hit into a double play.Elbert's no slouch. The last time they faced him he struck out Joey and Jay. This time Joey tagged a fastball, so Jay got nothing but sliders. Elbert's slider is just plain nasty for a lefty...looks like it's coming at your ear and crosses the low outside corner of the plate. :dunno:

[WVRedsFan]

Miles hits no one but the Reds.

[reds44]

Atta boy Logan.

[WVRedsFan]

K

[Blitz Dorsey]

Logan Ondrusek: EXCELLENT. You want to talk about a draft steal. Wow.

[WVRedsFan]

Coming from an agent, this is typical, but we need insurance!

[WVRedsFan]

I salivate when we beat the Dodgers. Gotta happen. Hate Dodger Blue.

[VR]

CoCo will have to face the meat of the order....earning his keep tonight for the save.

Unless the Reds decide to put up a 3 spot....which is fine too.

[WVRedsFan]

Razor walks

[Captain Hook]

Bunt!!!

[WVRedsFan]

Fred flipping Lewis on deck. Why?

[WebScorpion]

Nice shot, wrong spot...that hit Miles right in the glove. :(

[Blitz Dorsey]

I actually thought Soft-J had a hit there ... but it was a soft-liner right in the glove.

[WVRedsFan]

Fred flipping Lewis on deck. Why?

That is why, idiot.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Freddie Lew with a hit.

[WebScorpion]

Fred flipping Lewis on deck. Why?He's only good as a pinch hitter. :ughmamoru:

[_Sir_Charles_]

Leake pinch running for Ramon. Lewis at first after the ph single.

[WVRedsFan]

Leake with stirrups. Nice.

[VR]

That is why, idiot.

Spoken like a true city councilor;)

[reds44]

Drew. Stubbs.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Way to go Stubby! Leake scores! 3-1 Redlegs!

[WebScorpion]

Come on Stubby! I want to see an inside the ... nevermind, that'll do. :D

[Red in Chicago]

That was huge

[Blitz Dorsey]

Oh yeah baby! 3-1.

[Playadlc]

Need to hold on here. This would be a big win.

We are about to go on a run.

[VR]

Does Drew still get two days off? :)

[kaldaniels]

Beginning with pulling Cueto for the PH Cairo...Dusty has hit all the right buttons tonight.

[Brutus]

Leake with stirrups. Nice.

Winona has style

[WVRedsFan]

CoCo time. Fasten your seat belts. This may make The Beast look tame!

[WebScorpion]

CoCo time. Fasten your seat belts. This may make The Beast look tame!CoCo has been solid all year. :thisyear:

[Big Klu]

Beginning with pulling Cueto for the PH Cairo...Dusty has hit all the right buttons tonight.

Inserting Leake as the pinch-runner for Hernandez was a big move. I don't know if Ramon scores on that hit by Stubbs.

[kaldaniels]

2nd night in a row where what Kemp does is not important one bit.

[mbgrayson]

Ethier flies out to Bruce. One down.

[kaldaniels]

2nd night in a row where what Kemp does is not important one bit.

Not entirely accurate.

[WebScorpion]

Kemp would look soooo good batting between Joey and Jay. :pray:

[WVRedsFan]

Inserting Leake as the pinch-runner for Hernandez was a big move. I don't know if Ramon scores on that hit by Stubbs.

No doubt.

[WebScorpion]

Cordero lives in the dirt. -Vin Scully :laugh:

[reds44]

Two nights in a row bad walks by Cordero.

[Homer Bailey]

Does Cordero know that a Kemp homer and a Kemp walk there mean basically the same thing? Zero excuse to walk him.

[WVRedsFan]

This really is nail biting time.

[reds44]

Does Cordero know that a Kemp homer and a Kemp walk there mean basically the same thing? Zero excuse to walk him.
Two nights in a row.

Kemp is gonna run again, just like last night. Throw him out and make him look dumb.

[mbgrayson]

I don't think its a bad walk. Until he steals 2nd, the doubleplay still in order...

[CTA513]

What happened on that last pitch to Kemp?
I wasn't paying attention but gameday has it at 34 MPH with 50 BRK

[reds44]

I don't think its a bad walk. Until he steals 2nd, the doubleplay still in order...
Never walk a guy with more than a one run lead in the ninth. If he hits a homer it's the same thing as a walk.

[reds44]

What happened on that last pitch to Kemp?
I wasn't paying attention but gameday has it at 34 MPH with 50 BRK
Gameday operator fell asleep on the keyboard.

[Homer Bailey]

I don't think its a bad walk. Until he steals 2nd, the doubleplay still in order...

The tying run is at the plate whether he walks or homers there.

[reds44]

These pickoffs are all close.

[Brutus]

Never walk a guy with more than a one run lead in the ninth. If he hits a homer it's the same thing as a walk.

I'm not sure I agree in this situation. Kemp is the only guy that the Reds should worry about. Don't give him a chance to put any runs on the board if they don't have to. I'd rather pitch around him and take my chances with Loney, albeit the tying run.

[WebScorpion]

I'm not sure I agree in this situation. Kemp is the only guy that the Reds should worry about. Don't give him a chance to put any runs on the board if they don't have to. I'd rather pitch around him and take my chances with Loney, albeit the tying run.
I'm with you. :thumbup:

[kaldaniels]

I'm enjoying watching Coco go after Kemp myself.

No throwaways though.

[mbgrayson]

I'm with you. :thumbup:

Me too....as Kemp steals 2nd easily....

[reds44]

I'm not sure I agree in this situation. Kemp is the only guy that the Reds should worry about. Don't give him a chance to put any runs on the board if they don't have to. I'd rather pitch around him and take my chances with Loney, albeit the tying run.
You realize this makes no sense at all right? If Kemp hits one 800 feet there the Reds are in the same spot they are now.

[WVRedsFan]

All for naught. Hope it didn't distract Cordero enough to cause damage.

[Homer Bailey]

I'm not sure I agree in this situation. Kemp is the only guy that the Reds should worry about. Don't give him a chance to put any runs on the board if they don't have to. I'd rather pitch around him and take my chances with Loney, albeit the tying run.

Kemps run means literally nothing. All that matters is getting outs in the 9th.

[Brutus]

You realize this makes no sense at all right? If Kemp hits one 800 feet there the Reds are in the same spot they are now.

How so? By my count it's still only 3-1. If he had homered, it would be 3-2. I'm not seeing that as being the same spot.

[WVRedsFan]

Really stupid. Just like me.

[reds44]

How so? By my count it's still only 3-1. If he had homered, it would be 3-2. I'm not seeing that as being the same spot.
It's the ninth inning. It being 3-2 with nobody on base or 3-1 with a guy on base is the same thing.

[WebScorpion]

How so? By my count it's still only 3-1. If he had homered, it would be 3-2. I'm not seeing that as being the same spot.Um, maybe NOW it is. :eek:

[Brutus]

Kemps run means literally nothing. All that matters is getting outs in the 9th.

You need one guy to cross a plate before you can have a second cross. Whether it's one swing of the bat or two, they still need two separate runs. I'm not willing to concede the first run to the best hitter if I don't need to.

[reds44]

You need one guy to cross a plate before you can have a second cross. Whether it's one swing of the bat or two, they still need two separate runs. I'm not willing to concede the first run to the best hitter if I don't need to.
This is making my head hurt.

I honestly don't know how you don't understand this.

[Homer Bailey]

This is making my head hurt.

I honestly don't know how you don't understand this.

Yeah I give up.

[mbgrayson]

It's the ninth inning. It being 3-2 with nobody on base or 3-1 with a guy on base is the same thing.

Nonsense. Before the steal, with a walked batter on 1st, a ground ball doubleplay ends the game. With a HR by Kemp, a grounder is just one out.