6/22/2011 Game Thread: The Reds vs. The Evil Empire 12:35 Game

[Edd Roush]

Fred Lewis 7
Brandon Phillips 4
Joey Votto 3
Jay Bruce 9
Scott Rolen 5
Drew Stubbs 8
Edgar Renteria 6
Ryan Hanigan 2
Mike Leake 1

[Edd Roush]

That's the closest Dusty has come to the lineup that I would like against right-handers all year. I would still flip Phillips and Lewis and Renteria and Hanigan. I know managers don't like playing guys both games of a double header, but I would start Janish (or Cozart) in both.

[cumberlandreds]

I wonder if old man Rolen will play both? I'm guessing not.

[Edd Roush]

I would imagine we will see a different left fielder (Gomes), center/right fielder (Heisey), third baseman (Cairo), shortstop (Janish), catcher (Hanigan) and pitcher (Cueto) for the second game of the day.

I'm guessing the lineup will be

Heisey
Phillips
Votto
Bruce
Cairo
Gomes
Hanigan
Janish
Cueto

[cumberlandreds]

The Yankee lineup per Fay. No ARod or Texiera. Got to take advantage of that and beat these guys in this one.

Brett Gardner lf
Curtis Granderson cf
Nick Swisher rf
Robinson Cano 2b
Jorge Posada 1b
Eduardo Nunez ss
Ramiro Pena 3b
Francisco Cervilli c
Freddy Garcia p

[Edd Roush]

I am going to try to do PBP until the boss man comes around.

Gardner leads off the game grounding out 4-3.

[Edd Roush]

Leake Ks Granderson. 2 outs none on for Swisher.

[CTA513]

zone looks small so far.

[cumberlandreds]

Very nice first inning by Leake.

[Edd Roush]

Swisher grounds out 4-3.

16 first inning pitches for Leake.

[Edd Roush]

Let's hope Fred gets on base here so Dusty takes this small sample size for more than it is worth and starts batting him up there more often and Lewis gets most of the starts against right handed starting pitchers.

[Edd Roush]

Lewis lines out to the right fielder.

[The Voice of IH]

Is their any surprise Leake goes out and takes care of business. What a guy.

[Edd Roush]

Phillips doubles. Runner in scoring position and one out for Votto.

[Edd Roush]

Is their any surprise Leake goes out and takes care of business. What a guy.

Let's not get ahead ourselves. Even Jimmah had perfect first innings.

[The Voice of IH]

Let's not get ahead ourselves. Even Jimmah had perfect first innings.

He's the best.

[cumberlandreds]

Bruce needs to break the team slump. Right here and right now. How's that Thommy?

[Edd Roush]

Votto walks. First and second for Brrrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce.

[Edd Roush]

So much for a small zone. The umpire called the outer edge of the black against Bruce.

[The Voice of IH]

So much for a small zone. The umpire called the outer edge of the black against Bruce.

completely agree, like the Umpire was trying to help him out.

[CTA513]

Chris said Garcia didn't have the stuff to get Bruce out and then Garcia went and made Bruce look bad.

[Edd Roush]

Bruce Ks. Two out. Time for another big hit from Scotty.

[cumberlandreds]

Reds offense still slumping.

[jojo]

He's the best.

:deadhorse:

[Edd Roush]

Scott flies out to left. Inning over.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Wow ... an inning in which Garcia didn't have much and the Reds still can't score. The Bruce and Rolen at bats were terrible

[Edd Roush]

Wow ... an inning in which Garcia didn't have much and the Reds still can't score. The Bruce and Rolen at bats were terrible

I guess I'm glad I couldn't actually "watch" them then.

[Edd Roush]

Robby Cano grounds out 1-3.

[The Voice of IH]

:deadhorse:

It is not kicking a dead horse when people continue to disagree while Leake continues to show the world that he is the Ace of the rotation.

[Edd Roush]

Looks like called Ball 2 on Posada was exactly where called Strike 1 was on Jay Bruce.

[Edd Roush]

The "ace" walks the washed up Posada. One on, one out for Nunez.

[reds44]

It is not kicking a dead horse when people continue to disagree while Leake continues to show the world that he is the Ace of the rotation.

Haha this is a joke right? I love how Leaker is pitching right now, but the ace is pitching tonight.

[The Voice of IH]

The "ace" walks the washed up Posada. One on, one out for Nunez.

did you see that ball two call? the entire ball was over the plate.

[Edd Roush]

did you see that ball two call? the entire ball was over the plate.

Nope, just following gamecast.

[Edd Roush]

Nunez lines out to Phillips. Two outs, one on for Pena.

[jojo]

It is not kicking a dead horse when people continue to disagree while Leake continues to show the world that he is the Ace of the rotation.

He certainly seems to have shoplifted your heart but don't ya think your one sentence proclamations of affection posted constantly without any prodding are starting to become a little too repetitive?

[Edd Roush]

Leake hits Pena in an 0-2 count. Fail.

[Edd Roush]

Leake just got a called first strike on Cervelli that looked a good six inches off the plate on gamecast.

[The Voice of IH]

He certainly seems to have shoplifted your heart but don't ya think your one sentence proclamations of affection posted constantly without any prodding are starting to become a little too repetitive?

I feel that it is appropriate when the said proclamations are about the pitcher that is currently doing his work on the mound. And while others mock, like you just did, he continues to go out and get the job done. This time against one of the best offenses in baseball.

[reds44]

I feel that it is appropriate when the said proclamations are about the pitcher that is currently doing his work on the mound. And while others mock, like you just did, he continues to go out and get the job done. This time against one of the best offenses in baseball.
IT'S THE SECOND INNING.

Get off the hyperbole train.

[cumberlandreds]

Leake has 35 pitches through two.

If the Reds can't beat the Yanks in this first game they might as well not show up tonight. That is as weak a lineup as they can have. Giardi really threw his B team in there in this game.

[The Voice of IH]

IT'S THE SECOND INNING.

Get off the hyperbole train.

THIS IS A IN-GAME THREAD!

so we not only talk about what happened after the game, but during as well.

[Edd Roush]

THIS IS A IN-GAME THREAD!

so we not only talk about what happened after the game, but during as well.

Gentlemen, let's settle down and hope the Reds can string a few hits together so people are a little less on edge.

[cumberlandreds]

I feel that it is appropriate when the said proclamations are about the pitcher that is currently doing his work on the mound. And while others mock, like you just did, he continues to go out and get the job done. This time against one of the best offenses in baseball.

He's pitching to a lineup without ARod and Texiera. He better mow these guys down without those two in the lineup.

[Edd Roush]

By the way, Leake struck out Cervelli on a full count to end the inning. Stubbs, Renteria and Hanny due to bat in the home half of the second.

[cumberlandreds]

Apparently Swisher made a nice running catch to rob Stubbs of an extra base hit.

[cumberlandreds]

No luck for the Reds. Line out to the mound by Renteria.

[jojo]

I feel that it is appropriate when the said proclamations are about the pitcher that is currently doing his work on the mound. And while others mock, like you just did, he continues to go out and get the job done. This time against one of the best offenses in baseball.

At this point, it's likely that the ORG gets that you're enamored with Leake. I'm suggesting that constantly shouting it from the rooftops isn't going to change the minds of those you perceive disagree with you. In fact it might actually turn off many people who might be inclined to listen to a well thought out argument that you might post.

[kaldaniels]

Uh oh, did I hear the boring cincinnatiusa woman will soon be in the booth?

[Edd Roush]

Edgar makes another out. Lining out "sharply" to the pitcher.

Hanny lines out as well.

Reds go quietly in the second.

Still 0-0 heading into the third.

[cumberlandreds]

1-2-3 inning. 0-0 in the third.

[CTA513]

Uh oh, did I hear the boring cincinnatiusa woman will soon be in the booth?

You don't want anymore awkward creepiness like last time?

[Edd Roush]

The killer Gs due up for the Evil Empire: Garcia, Gardner and Granderson.

[jojo]

Apparently Swisher made a nice running catch to rob Stubbs of an extra base hit.

Yes, I thought it was 90:10 that the ball was gonna be gone rather than caught.

Thom said Swisher wasn't known for his defense, but for his career, Swisher has been an slightly above average glove.

It was a nice catch.

[kaldaniels]

You don't want anymore awkward creepiness like last time?

Did someone have a 2-martini lunch today? :lol:

[Edd Roush]

Garcia grounds out 1-3.

[cumberlandreds]

Yes, I thought it was 90:10 that the ball was gonna be gone rather than caught.

Thom said Swisher wasn't known for his defense, but for his career, Swisher has been an slightly above average glove.

It was a nice catch.

The way Marty was calling it I thought it was gone and Marty did too.

[Edd Roush]

The first two "balls" Leake threw to Gardner were close.

[cumberlandreds]

Marty just said LeCure has been activated for this game. I missed who had got optioned out.

[kaldaniels]

The way Marty was calling it I thought it was gone and Marty did too.

Thom said "Let's keep this guy in the 6 spot! And its caught."

[Edd Roush]

The first two "balls" Leake threw to Gardner were close.

Gardner takes advantage with a single hit to Brandon Phillips.

[kaldaniels]

Marty just said LeCure has been activated for this game. I missed who had got optioned out.

Wood

[cumberlandreds]

Wood

Wow! I would have thought Horst would be the first to go since he hasn't been seen in at least a week.

[Edd Roush]

Many pickoff attempts by Leake to try to keep Granderson close.

[Edd Roush]

Wow! I would have thought Horst would be the first to go since he hasn't been seen in at least a week.

I'm going to guess Fisher will go down for Sunday's starting pitcher and then Horst will go down when Chapman is deemed ready. No reason to send down a bullpen arm when you know you are going to have a different starter on Sunday.

[Edd Roush]

2-2 count on Granderson.

[cumberlandreds]

I'm going to guess Fisher will go down for Sunday's starting pitcher and then Horst will go down when Chapman is deemed ready. No reason to send down a bullpen arm when you know you are going to have a different starter on Sunday.

Good point. This should mean that Bailey will go this weekend in Baltimore.

[Edd Roush]

Good point. This should mean that Bailey will go this weekend in Baltimore.

Could be Bailey or Dontrelle. I will be there so I am pumped to see either of them over Wood. It would be awesome to be at Dontrelle's first start as a Red. He did dominate over seven innings in his last start with Louisville.

[kaldaniels]

If Bailey is ready, he is the guy. Willis isn't jumping him.

[Edd Roush]

The "ace" in trouble. Granderson singles on the 9th pitch of the at-bat. He's just lucky it's Swisher coming to the plate first and third one out instead of Tex.

[Edd Roush]

If Bailey is ready, he is the guy. Willis isn't jumping him.

I would agree. Bailey went more than 100 pitches last night, so the stamina is probably there.

[Edd Roush]

Called Ball 1 and Called Strike 2 appear to be the exact same pitch on gamecast. This umpire is struggling with his consistency.

[RichRed]

Could be Bailey or Dontrelle. I will be there so I am pumped to see either of them over Wood. It would be awesome to be at Dontrelle's first start as a Red. He did dominate over seven innings in his last start with Louisville.

I'll be at the Saturday game.

[HotCorner]

I'll be at the Saturday game.

So will I. :D

[Edd Roush]

I'll be at the Saturday game.

Awesome, I should be there too with a couple buddies. I think we are just going to buy the cheapest seats and move down, apparently it is easy to do at Camden. Any idea where you will be sitting?

[redsfaninbsg]

Need a K here.

[redsfaninbsg]

Damn.

[Edd Roush]

Groundout to first brings home the run. Granderson moves into scoring position.

[jojo]

Nice play by Votto but I think he could've went to second and had better results.

[redsfaninbsg]

I feel like this half inning has taken three days.

[jojo]

Need a K here.

Unfortunately Leake isn't that kind of guy.

[cumberlandreds]

Groundout to first brings home the run. Granderson moves into scoring position.

I didn't know they got the out at first. Brantley never said anything about Votto touching first then to home. The Reds have all of these announcers and still can't call a game worth anything.

[redsfaninbsg]

Down 2-0 and the Yankees are yet to hit a ball hard.

[Edd Roush]

Cano brings home the second run on a pretty well located pitch by Leake. I was thinking we should walk Cano.

[jojo]

Thom daring Posada to go yard...

[cumberlandreds]

I feel like this half inning has taken three days.

That's the Yankee way. They grind a pitcher down. They may be doing that to Leake this inning.

[traderumor]

Fun times. Man I hate stretches where we're punishing the ball and get nothing and the other team is scoring runs on grounders that find holes. Its about as frustrating as this game gets.

[CTA513]

Yankees don't even have a good lineup out today and they are still showing they can make a pitcher work.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Down 2-0 and the Yankees are yet to hit a ball hard.

This is frustrating. The Reds are raking the ball and have nothing to show for it; the Yankees are tapping slow grounders through the infield and have 2 runs.

:thumbdown:

[redsfaninbsg]

Finally, it's over.

[Edd Roush]

Ball 1 was Strike 3 according to Gamecast.

They really need to start having computers call balls and strikes. Screw the human element.

[cumberlandreds]

67 pitches for Leake. He's not going last six innings at this rate.

[Edd Roush]

Umpire calls the fourth pitch strike 3.

[durl]

I know we lead the majors in runs scored (do we still??) but it's starting to look as though we average 15 runs per game in April and May and we're down to 1 in June.

[Edd Roush]

Both strikes on Leake look off the plate on Gamecast.

[kaldaniels]

A lot of hard hit balls off Freddy. The flood gates should open soon.

[Edd Roush]

Leake flies out to center on essentially a batting practice fastball down the heart of the plate.

[Edd Roush]

Lewis grounds out 6-3. That's 7 in a row for Garcia.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

A lot of hard hit balls off Freddy. The flood gates should open soon.

That was the case the last homestand vs. Dempster. The first two innings the Reds were hitting the ball and getting walks and getting HBP, and it didn't look like Dempster would be around long at all. The Reds just didn't do nearly enough damage when they could have.

Then he flips a switch and locks down the Reds the rest of the game, getting the W.

[CTA513]

easy inning for Garcia

[_Sir_Charles_]

Is their any surprise Leake goes out and takes care of business. What a guy.

*grin* We really need to get you an avatar of Leake with a set of Pom-pom's. :O) Just kidding.

[cumberlandreds]

*grin* We really need to get you an avatar of Leake with a set of Pom-pom's. :O) Just kidding.


:laugh:

[CTA513]

Maybe the Yankees will help the Reds out and start throwing the ball around the field like the Cubs?

[cumberlandreds]

Yanks grinding it out again. 8 pitches to Pena and counting.

[CTA513]

Even the Yankees scrubs are putting up good at bats.

[cumberlandreds]

10 pitches to finally get Pena.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Leake seems to be throwing well...just these Yankee hitters keep wasting pitch after pitch. Tons of balls fouled off. He's pounding the zone...just some good AB's by the Yanks.

[cumberlandreds]

cervelli K's to end the inning.

[RichRed]

Awesome, I should be there too with a couple buddies. I think we are just going to buy the cheapest seats and move down, apparently it is easy to do at Camden. Any idea where you will be sitting?

All I know is somewhere in the upper level between 3B and home plate. It's a JMU alumni picnic/game that was organized by another guy.

[kaldaniels]

Votto. Bruce. Rolen. Stubbs.

I smell runs.

[cumberlandreds]

81 pitches for Leake. I hope LeCure is ready to go today.

[cumberlandreds]

Votto. Bruce. Rolen. Stubbs.

I smell runs.

You sure its not the offense your smelling. It's been very smelly lately. :)

[Edd Roush]

Heart of the order due up for the Reds. Time for runs.

[_Sir_Charles_]

81 pitches for Leake. I hope LeCure is ready to go today.

With it being a double header, Dusty'll push Leake a bit I'd think.

[CTA513]

You sure its not the offense your smelling. It's been very smelly lately. :)

They've been hitting like they got the runs.

[cumberlandreds]

They've been hitting like they got the runs.

Bada Bing! :laugh:

[kaldaniels]

Dave Cameron's chat over in fangraphs today says/speculates the Giants turned down a Bumgarner for Jose Bautista deal last season.

Found that interesting.

[Edd Roush]

Votto Ks.

[redsfaninbsg]

Bruce out 1-3 on a bunt attempt...........

[kaldaniels]

Good idea. Terrible bunt.

[kaldaniels]

Disappointing.

[cumberlandreds]

That was quick.

[Edd Roush]

Rolen Ks. Disappointing start for the offense.

[kaldaniels]

As a hitter, can you just not tell when a catcher is standing up...like on that strike 3 to Rolen?

[OldXOhio]

It's not the offense. We're just facing Cy Young candidates every day.

[durl]

1 hit and 4 Ks after 4 innings. <yawn.>

[cumberlandreds]

Garcia only 54 pitches as compared to Leake's 81.

[The Voice of IH]

At this point, it's likely that the ORG gets that you're enamored with Leake. I'm suggesting that constantly shouting it from the rooftops isn't going to change the minds of those you perceive disagree with you. In fact it might actually turn off many people who might be inclined to listen to a well thought out argument that you might post.

Regardless, With Leake pitching today I see no problem talking about Mike Leake.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

The Reds have settled into their traditional sleepwalk part of the game (usually innings 2-8) against the most mediocre of mediocre pitching.

[cumberlandreds]

The CincinnatUSA lady is on the air to liven things up! ;)

[Edd Roush]

Leake gets the first two out. Granderson up.

[cumberlandreds]

Is the game still going on? Marty has forgotten all about it.

[alloverjr]

Is the game still going on? Marty has forgotten all about it.

Good for him.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Is the game still going on? Marty has forgotten all about it.

So have the Reds batters

Edit: And Walt

[cumberlandreds]

The Yanks are out. Marty had to interrupt the commercial for another set of commercials.

[Edd Roush]

So have the Reds batters

Zing! 1-2-3 for Leake. Let's hope the Reds starting helping out Leake.

[The Voice of IH]

All we need is to get a few runners on. Everything will be OK then. One at bat at a time!

[Strikes Out Looking]

Are the Reds aware that they are scheduled to play a game this afternoon?

[Homer Bailey]

Forgot how fun game threads were during a losing streak/period.

[cumberlandreds]

E-5 Stubbs on.

[CrackerJack]

um, ouch

[CTA513]

Reds finally got someone on but it was at the cost of Stubbs getting hit in the mouth on Penas throw to 1st.

[Edd Roush]

Good call on whoever said we need the Yankees to start throwing around the ball like the Cubs for the Reds to get this offense going.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Well, there's the beginning of the Yanks throwing it around like the Cubs as requested. :O)

[cumberlandreds]

um, ouch

It sounded weird. Marty couldn't describe much as the infomercial continuing this inning.

[RichRed]

Reds finally got someone on but it was at the cost of Stubbs getting hit in the mouth on Penas throw to 1st.

If it leaves a mark, that could really hurt him in the "Best Looking Reds Player" race.

[The Voice of IH]

Alright, just one more runner please.

[Edd Roush]

Why doesn't Edgar just bunt here rather than hit into a double play?

[Edd Roush]

How do you not kill an 87 mph fastball right down the heart of the plate?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Why doesn't Edgar just bunt here rather than hit into a double play?

How about Stubbs just swiping second to eliminate that option? :O)

[The Voice of IH]

Hell Yea, now do something with it!

[cumberlandreds]

Wow! A hit by a Reds SS.

[CTA513]

Renteria with a single to left that sends Stubbs to 3rd.

[HotCorner]

Is this what's called a "rally"?

[_Sir_Charles_]

"Need ya on third, Brucie!"

[CTA513]

Wow! A hit by a Reds SS.

You think they will take his bat and put in in the Reds HOF?

[Edd Roush]

You think they will take his bat and put in in the Reds HOF?

haha, first and third for Hanny! Let's get something done!

[Edd Roush]

How did Hanny take a pitch right down the gut? Gotta be aggressive! Can't strike out here.

[RichRed]

haha, first and third for Hanny! Let's get something done!

Too bad Edgar's not available to pinch hit.

[CTA513]

Hanigan with a bad at bat but Pena thinks he plays for the Cubs and makes a bad throw to home allowing Stubbs to score.

[The Voice of IH]

Lets go now!

[CTA513]

Sac fly by Lewis ties the game at 2-2

[Edd Roush]

I don't like the bunt call there. Let Leake swing it, especially when the Yankees are acting like the Cubs in the field.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Maybe the Yankees will help the Reds out and start throwing the ball around the field like the Cubs?

Prophet. *high five*

[Edd Roush]

This ump is killing me with his strike zone. Called strike one on Brandon was up and away.

[Edd Roush]

Wild pitch moves Hanny to third. Do it again, Freddy!

[cumberlandreds]

Good call by CTA. :thumbup:

[Edd Roush]

LOL Called strike 2 is another ball per Gameday.

[durl]

WAY up out of the zone. Amazing.

[Edd Roush]

Phillips flies out, but the Reds tie it up at 2.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Where are the two-out hits BP?

[cumberlandreds]

That's Ted Barret behind the plate. He's been on Reds Live for the Mechanics of the Game segment or whatever they are calling it now. The Reds must have forgot to pay him for doing that.

[_Sir_Charles_]

You know, at one point in time the strikezone used to be from the batter's knees to the letters on the jersey. What is it now? The belt? I think we've gotten used to a very small strikezone over the years...*shrugs*...maybe I'm wrong. Who knows.

http://donklephant.com/wp-content/strike_zone.gif

I don't see many strikes called in that area between the belt and the letters anymore.

[Edd Roush]

Heart of the order due up for the Yankees. Swisher, Cano and Posada.

[Edd Roush]

Let's see if Leake can get through the 6th. 93 pitches heading into the inning.

[Edd Roush]

Ball 2 certainly looked close. Barret has been calling that all game.

[Edd Roush]

Swisher flies out to left. C'mon Leake let's get Cano.

[Edd Roush]

The "ace" throws an 0-2 pitch right down the heart of the plate and Cano turns it into a single. Why throw an 0-2 pitch with no one on base any where near the plate? I just don't get it.

[CTA513]

4-2 Yankees after old man Posada homers

[The Voice of IH]

Bloop and a blast. Dang it.

[jojo]

Dave Cameron's chat over in fangraphs today says/speculates the Giants turned down a Bumgarner for Jose Bautista deal last season.

Found that interesting.

He also said that he didn't think Guthrie would be highly regarded on the market and that he didn't think the Marlins would consider trading Sanchez.

[redsfaninbsg]

Gives up an 0-2 hit to Cano and then a line drive homer to Posada.

[durl]

1st homer in 5 weeks for Posada? Wow.

[alloverjr]

4-2 Yankees after old man Posada homers

Didn't even know he was still on their roster. :laugh:

At least it's baseball, right?

[reds44]

Man the ace just continues to do it!

The ace with a 4.23 ERA.

[Homer Bailey]

"Ace" continues to be hilarious.

[CTA513]

Man the ace just continues to do it!

The ace with a 4.23 ERA.

Hes trying to catch up to Volquez

[reds44]

Nobody is left proclaiming the "ace" ness of Edinson Volquez.

[The Voice of IH]

Man the ace just continues to do it!

The ace with a 4.23 ERA.

First 'un' quality start in 7 tires and people are getting after him

I LOVE IT!

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

The Reds have to scratch and claw and bend over backwards and need errors, wild pitches and broken bat hits to tie it.

Then the Yanks yawn and get their two-run lead right back.

[reds44]

First 'un' quality start in 7 tires and people are getting after him

I LOVE IT!
Oh he loves it.

Good pitcher, not an ace. Big difference.

[jojo]

Bloop and a blast. Dang it.

Sounds like something that could get ya arrested.

[kaldaniels]

First 'un' quality start in 7 tires and people are getting after him

I LOVE IT!

You set yourself up for it my friend.

[redsfaninbsg]

Votto just looks like a different hitter the past two weeks.

[Strikes Out Looking]

1st homer in 5 weeks for Posada? Wow.

Was Mickey Mantle's corpse unavailable?

[_Sir_Charles_]

First 'un' quality start in 7 tires and people are getting after him

I LOVE IT!

I feel for you IH. It's very difficult to be optimistic and positive-minded on this board sometimes. I think Leake has been the best starter for the Reds this season (Cueto's short time back has been very good though). I think people are reacting more to the term "ace" than to Leake's actual performances. He's been very good (especially considering his age & experience) but as of right now...the Reds don't have what many would consider a bonafide "ace".

But don't get your head down. Leake's my boy too! :O)

[_Sir_Charles_]

There ya go Jay! Get outta that funk!

[CTA513]

Rolen lines out to left and Bruce is doubled off 2nd to end the inning.

[The Voice of IH]

I get what your saying

Right now it is not the pitching it is the complete crap of an offense the Reds have. They sit back and expect the other team to make a mistake, and when it does not happen they lose.

[cumberlandreds]

Bruce doubles off the wall. And then is doubled off 2nd base. How horrible is this team becoming.

[reds44]

I feel for you IH. It's very difficult to be optimistic and positive-minded on this board sometimes. I think Leake has been the best starter for the Reds this season (Cueto's short time back has been very good though). I think people are reacting more to the term "ace" than to Leake's actual performances. He's been very good (especially considering his age & experience) but as of right now...the Reds don't have what many would consider a bonafide "ace".

But don't get your head down. Leake's my boy too! :O)

You do realize you just said what everyone else has been saying, just in a nicer way right?

[fearofpopvol1]

The Reds sure look like amateurs today going up against the Yankees AAA team.

[redsfaninbsg]

This is horrid.

[durl]

Bruce either thought there were 2 outs or he never saw where it was going. They simply can't make these kinds of mistakes against the Yankees.

Where's the swagger this team had early on??

[_Sir_Charles_]

You do realize you just said what everyone else has been saying, just in a nicer way right?

Not everyone. Many were just mocking him. And whether people mean something different or not...the impression it leaves is BEYOND depressing. Sometimes it looks like people are just waiting for bad things to happen so they can revel in their misery.

[cumberlandreds]

When you see the Yankees and compare them to the Reds, you see how much further the Reds need to go to be a true contender for a world championship.

[reds44]

So did Bruce just do what Volquez did?

I'm not watching the game.

[CTA513]

did they just show that womans credit card on tv?

[redsfaninbsg]

Thank God, I'm not at the game. The last two games I've been to Arrendondo has balked in a run and thrown a wild pitch to give up a run. For the life of me, I can't figure out why he's still pitching in the 7th-8th-9th.

[alloverjr]

The Reds have however managed to smash out 2 hits through the front 5. Baby steps.

[Chip R]

Rolen lines out to left and Bruce is doubled off 2nd to end the inning.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

When you see the Yankees and compare them to the Reds, you see how much further the Reds need to go to be a true contender for a world championship.

We saw it even earlier in the NLDS. Presumably, Walt, Dusty and Bob saw it too, though you'd never know it.

[CTA513]

1-2-3 inning for Arredondo

[cumberlandreds]

We saw it even earlier in the NLDS. Presumably, Walt, Dusty and Bob saw it too, though you'd never know it.

Absolutley. It's kinda like when I watch Kentucky football play against Alabama and Florida. You know you just aren't in their league yet and may never be.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Jeez guys. You're acting like this offense will struggle like this all season. Stubbs, Votto, Bruce, Rolen and Phillips...all 5 of them are in a slump. Kinda hard to put together much offense when your 5 bangers are in a slump. They'll get out of it.

I do feel that now is a great time to bring up a rookie bat or two. That youthful exuberance is sometimes just what the doctor ordered to turn a team's attitude around.

[OldXOhio]

Bruce either thought there were 2 outs or he never saw where it was going.

Both are inexcusable. On the grade school level.

Perhaps we're looking at things from the wrong side when proposing who the Reds ought to be in the market to "buy"? This is simply not a very good team.

[CTA513]

Future Cubs player Pena commits another error allowing Stubbs to reach

[redsfaninbsg]

Both are inexcusable. On the grade school level.

Perhaps we're looking at things from the wrong side when proposing who the Reds ought to be in the market to "buy"? This is simply not a very good team.

If this team were in the NL East, I'd agree it would be time to sell. However, the Central has two teams that couldn't beat the eight teams playing in Omaha this week.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Jeez guys. You're acting like this offense will struggle like this all season. Stubbs, Votto, Bruce, Rolen and Phillips...all 5 of them are in a slump. Kinda hard to put together much offense when your 5 bangers are in a slump. They'll get out of it.

They definitely will. Then we'll have two or three weeks of offensive production before they shut it down again for a few weeks.

It's been the pattern with this team. Wild ups and downs, and when you're in the middle of one of those swings, you know the other one is right around the corner.

Probably why we're sitting at about .500.

[_Sir_Charles_]

They definitely will. Then we'll have two or three weeks of offensive production before they shut it down again.

It's been the pattern with this team. Wild ups and downs, and when you're in the middle of one of those swings, you know the other one is right around the corner.

Probably why we're sitting at about .500.

That's what's so weird about it. I see one or two players slump for other teams, but not a whole batch of them like ours do. I just don't see THAT particular trend continuing.

[reds44]

Both are inexcusable. On the grade school level.

Perhaps we're looking at things from the wrong side when proposing who the Reds ought to be in the market to "buy"? This is simply not a very good team.
We're two games out of first.

[HotCorner]

Why is Stubbs not stealing to avoid the double play?

[CTA513]

Renteria quickly hits into a double play to snuff out any rally.
Hanigan grounds out to end the inning.

[fearofpopvol1]

A double play and a groundout to end the inning. Awesome. How many pitches did Garcia throw in the inning? 6?

[CTA513]

Garcia: 7 Innings, 3 Hits, 2 Runs (0 earned), 1 BB, 4 K - 89 pitches

[_Sir_Charles_]

A double play and a groundout to end the inning. Awesome. How many pitches did Garcia throw in the inning? 6?

It's worse than you think. FIVE.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

We're two games out of first.

We could be two games in front and it wouldn't mean that this team doesn't have serious - if not fatal - flaws that have to be corrected going forward.

Otherwise, "we're two games out of first" can quickly turn into "we're eight games out of first" in a little more than a week.

We're essentially one Brewers red-hot streak from being toast. That's literally playing with fire.

[Tom Servo]

Man, the Reds are just no fun to watch.

[OldXOhio]

We're two games out of first.

And the Pirates are 4. Does anyone really think we're that much better on the field than PIT at this time?

[CTA513]

1-2-3 inning for Bray

[cumberlandreds]

Lets go out there, score three runs and win this thing. What do you say?

[OldXOhio]

Garcia: 7 Innings, 3 Hits, 2 Runs (0 earned), 1 BB, 4 K - 89 pitches

The guy was a force in the AL and bonified CY candidate.

In 2001.

[CTA513]

Robertson in for the Yankees.
He strikes out a ton, but he also walks a bunch.

[Chip R]

Robertson in for the Yankees.
He strikes out a ton, but he also walks a bunch.

Bad matchup for the Reds since they strike out a bunch but don't walk.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Lets go out there, score three runs and win this thing. What do you say?

I second that. If the Reds pull this one out, I'll find a way to get into the nightcap. And I'll buy several beers there.

That would help team revenue.

[OldXOhio]

This DH, this series has sweep written all over it.

[_Sir_Charles_]

We could be two games in front and it wouldn't mean that this team doesn't have serious - if not fatal - flaws that have to be corrected going forward.

Otherwise, "we're two games out of first" can quickly turn into "we're eight games out of first" in a little more than a week.

We're essentially one Brewers red-hot streak from being toast. That's literally playing with fire.

We also haven't seen the REDS click yet either. When the offense was going good...the pitching wasn't. Or if the starters were going good, the bullpen started scuffling. Thus far, the Reds have had nothing bigger than a 3 game winning streak this season, right? Personally I think the other teams in the Central are the ones playing with fire. They're just coasting along and we've yet to click. The Brewers & Cards have BOTH clicked and it moved them both out front. As long as the starters keep going out and doing their jobs...we'll be fine.

[redsfaninbsg]

This is just simply hard to watch right now. If not for the Yankees own miscues the Reds wouldn't have even scored to this point.

[Always Red]

I've changed my mind on the LF situation: I'd rather get rid of all 3 of them and just start over again. :)

[redsfaninbsg]

Nice play by Cano.

[RBA]

MLB Network tuned into the game. Directv for some reason is blacking my area out. (San Diego?)

[durl]

MLB Network tuned into the game. Directv for some reason is blacking my area out. (San Diego?)

What's on their alternate channel?

[Homer Bailey]

Bad matchup for the Reds since they strike out a bunch but don't walk.

Reds are top half of the NL in BB rate (5th out of 15 teams), and bottom half in K rate (9th out of 15 teams).

[Homer Bailey]

MLB Network tuned into the game. Directv for some reason is blacking my area out. (San Diego?)

Ummmm duh that's Yankees territory. :p

[RBA]

What's on their alternate channel?

Directv LOGO (not to be confused with the network LOGO)

[redsfaninbsg]

Does Cueto have a no hitter in him?

[CTA513]

Votto K's to end the inning.

Might want to think about giving him a day off.

[durl]

Directv LOGO (not to be confused with the network LOGO)

Then Homer called it correctly, San Diego is Yankee territory :D

[CTA513]

LeCure to pitch the 9th

[RBA]

Then Homer called it correctly, San Diego is Yankee territory :D

I am thinking it is because the Padres are playing at Boston right now. Wouldn't want to take the chance that they will go to the game live for an at bat.