Reds vs Rays 6-29-2011

[cumberlandreds]

Here are the lineups per Fay. Looks like Hanigan is still hurting. Could we see Mesoraco if he isn't well soon?

Lewis 7, Phillips 4, Votto 3, Rolen 5, Bruce 9, Gomes DH, Hernandez 2, Stubbs 8, Janish 6, Volquez RHP.

[cumberlandreds]

Jays lineup per Yahoo. Not really looking forward to this game. On paper a pitching mismatch.

Tampa Bay
J. Damon dh
B. Zobrist rf
E. Longoria 3b
M. Joyce lf
C. Kotchman 1b
B.J. Upton cf
S. Rodriguez 2b
K. Shoppach c
E. Johnson ss

Shields P

[Big Klu]

Here are the lineups per Fay. Looks like Hanigan is still hurting. Could we see Mesoraco if he isn't well soon?

Lewis 7, Phillips 4, Votto 3, Rolen 5, Bruce 9, Gomes DH, Hernandez 2, Stubbs 8, Janish 6, Volquez RHP.

I didn't know anything was wrong with Hanigan. Doesn't Hernandez usually catch Volquez?

[Homer Bailey]

Hanigan is starting. Fay Fayl.

[_Sir_Charles_]

They said Hanny had an injured lat if I recall correctly. But they said he wouldn't be out very long which makes me think they won't bother to DL him....hence, no Mesoraco. Just an assumption on my part of course.

~edit~ Yep, it looks like they corrected the lineup and Hanny is starting. And of course I just now saw Homer's post. :O) Nevermind, nothing to see here. Move along.

[cumberlandreds]

Corrected Reds lineup. He said the wrong was sent out. Yea, sure....

Can't believe Rolen is in there on a day game after a night game. He must have taken an extra dose of geritol this morning.

Lewis 7, Phillips 4, Votto 3, Rolen 5, Bruce 9, Gomes DH, Hanigan 2, Stubbs 8, Janish 6, Volquez RHP.

[Homer Bailey]

Can't believe Rolen is in there on a day game after a night game. He must have taken an extra dose of geritol this morning.



Off day tomorrow.

[cumberlandreds]

Off day tomorrow.

True. But they usually don't miss an opportunity to give him two days off in a row. I'm glad he's in there. He's going to need to start playing more of these games for the Reds to have optimum offense in the 2nd half.

[cumberlandreds]

We are off and running. Lewis bounces back to the mound for the first out.

[cumberlandreds]

Another bounce back to the mound. Two away.

[cumberlandreds]

Votto singles but not before Marty can get his verbage in.

[cumberlandreds]

Votto picked off. And the inning is over.

[cumberlandreds]

Damon GO to Janish. That only took 4 pitches.

[cumberlandreds]

Zobrist walks on 4 pitches.

[cumberlandreds]

Longoria grounds into a 6-3 DP. No score after one.

[OesterPoster]

Votto picked off. And the inning is over.

Not sure I completely understand why Marty had to be so critical, but I guess it's just Marty being Marty. Shields is tough to run on and that was his 8th pickoff of the year.

[cumberlandreds]

Not sure I completely understand why Marty had to be so critical, but I guess it's just Marty being Marty. Shields is tough to run on and that was his 8th pickoff of the year.

If Marty can't grouch about something its just not a good day for him.

[cumberlandreds]

Rolen K's

[cumberlandreds]

Bruce K's.

I know the ATT trivia answer. The Cowboy's answer is wrong.

[westofyou]

Not sure I completely understand why Marty had to be so critical, but I guess it's just Marty being Marty. Shields is tough to run on and that was his 8th pickoff of the year.

Probably because back in the day Marty was known as the smartest player on the field, one who never strayed from the game or it's goal... pure winning.

or he's just a grouchy guy

[cumberlandreds]

Gomes singles. His hot hitting continues.

[OldXOhio]

How long can Gomes keep this up?

[cumberlandreds]

How long can Gomes keep this up?

Hopefully all season. Because we are going to see him no matter what.

[cumberlandreds]

Hanigan singles. Runners on the corners for Stubby.

[TheBurn]

Absolutely diggin' Gomes going 1st-to-3rd on that single.
That's more like what we saw last year.

[cumberlandreds]

Stubbs does what he does best. Strike out. 34 pitches for Shields after two.

[OldXOhio]

Stubbs does what he does best. Strike out. 34 pitches for Shields after two.

This is a real problem....beyond the "we know this about Drew" stage IMO.

[OldXOhio]

Hopefully all season. Because we are going to see him no matter what.

That's my concern, although if he can provide league average over the last 3 months, i'd take it.

[cumberlandreds]

This is a real problem....beyond the "we know this about Drew" stage IMO.

Yep. If this continues the Reds are going to have another position player to decide on this winter. You can't have Stubbs striking out as much as he does.

[OldXOhio]

Yep. If this continues the Reds are going to have another position player to decide on this winter. You can't have Stubbs striking out as much as he does.

he's responded fairly well in the past to getting time off...at what point does Dusty make Heisey the starter for a few series?

[cumberlandreds]

Joyce K's.

[cumberlandreds]

he's responded fairly well in the past to getting time off...at what point does Dusty make Heisey the starter for a few series?

I think anytime now is fine. He's really struggling and just isn't helping this team out much at the moment.

[cumberlandreds]

Kotchman walks.

[cumberlandreds]

Upton K's looking.

[cumberlandreds]

Rodriquez K to end the inning. No score after two.

[cumberlandreds]

31 pitches for Volquez. Who would have thought he would have less pitches than Shields after two innings?
After Hanigan went to the mound in the 2nd Volquez threw nothing but fastball's as pointed out by Brantley. I wonder if Hanigan told him to just use his best stuff and don't worry about the rest?

[cumberlandreds]

Janish pops out to SS.

[cumberlandreds]

Lewis K's looking

[cumberlandreds]

Longoria makes a nice play to retire Phillips and the Reds in the 3rd.

[reds44]

This is the second time Hanigan has caught Volquez. The first time was arguably his best start of the year in St. Louis. Just something to keep an eye on.

[RichRed]

Janish pops out to SS.

Has Janish ever popped out before?

[cumberlandreds]

Shoppach GO to 3rd

[cumberlandreds]

Phillips with a nice play to retire Johnson.

[cumberlandreds]

Damon GO to Phillips to end the 3rd. zip to zip after three.

[cumberlandreds]

Votto singles to start the 4th. Followed by a Rolen single.

[cumberlandreds]

Has Janish ever popped out before?

Once or twice but that's it. :)

[cumberlandreds]

Bruce K's

[OldXOhio]

Can't say i thought i'd be making the following statement:

glad to see gomes up in this situation.

[signalhome]

Horrific at-bat by Bruce. You honestly cannot look any worse than he just did.

[cumberlandreds]

Gomes K's. That was easy.

[cumberlandreds]

Hanigan HOMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheBurn]

Hanny HR!
3-0 Rojos
:clap:

[OldXOhio]

huge

[cumberlandreds]

You know, other than Votto, I would rather have Hanigan up in a clutch situation than anyone else on this team

[cumberlandreds]

Stubbs GO to end the inning. At least he didn't K. That's progress.

3-0 Reds in the 4th. Lets make it stand Volquez!

[klw]

Hanigan should tweak his back more often if this is the result!!!!!!

[cumberlandreds]

Volquez K's the first hitter, Zobrist I think.

[cumberlandreds]

Longoria pops out.

[cumberlandreds]

Line out to Bruce. 3-0 Reds after four.

[TheBurn]

EV cruising along... ;)

[reds44]

Hanigan catches Volquez from now on.

[cumberlandreds]

Janish K's

[cumberlandreds]

Lewis GO to 2nd

[cumberlandreds]

Phillips GO to third to end the Reds 5th.

[TheBurn]

Only 8 pitches for Shields on that 1-2-3 half.

[cumberlandreds]

Single by Kotchman. 1st hit of the day by the Rays.

[cumberlandreds]

A pop out to Bruce. One away in the 5th

[cumberlandreds]

Rodriquez K's

[cumberlandreds]

Shoppach K's WOW! 74 pitches for Volquez

[reds44]

Volquez is dealing.

[TheBurn]

Very nice.
So that's 5IP 1H 0ER 2BB 6K for EV

[cumberlandreds]

Did Volquez inherit Cueto's body and mind today? If so I like it.

[OesterPoster]

Did Volquez inherit Cueto's body and mind today? If so I like it.

Catcher.

[cumberlandreds]

Votto K's

[cumberlandreds]

Catcher.

Its makes you wonder. After Hanigan made that trip to the mound in the 2nd things have been much different.

[cumberlandreds]

Rolen GO to SS. two away

[OesterPoster]

Pitching matchup for the 1st game in St. Louis will be Carpenter and Cueto.

Oh boy.

[Edd Roush]

Thanks for the PBP, cumberland.

[cumberlandreds]

Pitching matchup for the 1st game in St. Louis will be Carpenter and Cueto.

Oh boy.

Just great for the 4th of July! :)

[TheBurn]

Really liking JB making Shields work on this AB...

[cumberlandreds]

Bruce K's for the third time. Shields owns him.

[cumberlandreds]

Thanks for the PBP, cumberland.

No problem. I'm sorry I'm not as colorful as some others that do this.

[signalhome]

Another strikeout, but at least he put up a good AB.

[cumberlandreds]

82 pitches for Shields through six.

[Homer Bailey]

Hanigan catches Volquez from now on.

I've mentioned this several times.

[cumberlandreds]

Johnson is K number 7 for Volquez.

[_Sir_Charles_]

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTg2OTk5MTg3NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwOTExOTM5._V1._ SY317_CR3,0,214,317_.jpg

Who is this guy, and what has he done with Edinson Volquez!?! Wowsers! :O)

[Homer Bailey]

For those with MLB.tv, is it just me, or is the Rays feed a much better picture than the Reds feed?

[lollipopcurve]

Has Janish ever popped out before?

Still tabulating.....

[_Sir_Charles_]

Johnny Damon just tied Ted Williams on the all time hit list. That is just SOOOOOOO wrong.

[cumberlandreds]

Bloop single by Damon. Damon ties Ted WIlliams on the hit list. Who thinks Damon is as good as Williams?

[TheBurn]

Man... really thought Bruce could get to that blooper.
Must be seeing things.

[Homer Bailey]

Man... really thought Bruce could get to that blooper.
Must be seeing things.

He was playing really deep.

[Edd Roush]

Awful job by Volquez vs Zobrist. Is any one warming in the pen?

[Homer Bailey]

Volquez is back.

[signalhome]

For those with MLB.tv, is it just me, or is the Rays feed a much better picture than the Reds feed?

Mine looks good, but I've had that problem before. Sometimes I'm able to get a better picture with the opposition's feed. No idea why.

[VR]

Its makes you wonder. After Hanigan made that trip to the mound in the 2nd things have been much different.

Spanish is a romance language. It sound much more direct and intimidating when the catcher lights up the pitcher in English.

[cumberlandreds]

Game may decided right here with Longoria. Lets see how much Volquez has learned.

[cumberlandreds]

Longoria doubles in two runs.

[Edd Roush]

That pitch was literally right down the middle. With the off day tomorrow, I bring in an arm from the pen. Good start for Volquez, but he's losing it now.

[cumberlandreds]

Bullpen just now getting going

[Homer Bailey]

2nd two run bloop double in less than 24 hours. I hate baseball.

[TheBurn]

Nice DP to end the inning!

[cumberlandreds]

Whewww! A break. Line out DP to Phillips. 3-2 Reds after six.

[Edd Roush]

We needed that. Volquez should not pitch next inning.

[_Sir_Charles_]

If somebody asked me how Volquez pitched today, all I would have to do is point to one thing.

90 pitches, 54 strikes, 36 balls. Edinson throws strikes, he's VERY good. I vote that Hanigan catches him the rest of the season.

[OldXOhio]

Not a good series for Longoria on the bases.

[Edd Roush]

I think I go to Ondrusek for the 7th. Maybe I pitch Chapman against Kotchman to start the inning and then go to Ondrusek for the two righties, but I am afraid of Chapman giving up a lead-off walk.

I want to give Ondrusek his confidence back. Last night was rough no doubt, but you have to trust your horses and Ondrusek is good.

[Edd Roush]

Nice lead-off walk from Gomes. Come on Hanny, put the lead back up to 3!

[cumberlandreds]

Gomes walks

[reds44]

Leave Volquez in. Neither of the hits last inning were hit even remotely hard.

[TheBurn]

Back-to-back walks!

[VR]

Leave Volquez in. Neither of the hits last inning were hit even remotely hard.

Yep. Have the pen ready......but they have to get this guy used to pitching in the 7th inning of baseball games.

[Edd Roush]

Leave Volquez in. Neither of the hits last inning were hit even remotely hard.

I am not worried about the hits, I am worried about the walks. He was very wild within and outside of the zone and with the off day tomorrow there is no reason to "save" the pen.

[cumberlandreds]

Gotta take advantage of this.

[reds44]

I am not worried about the hits. He was very wild within and outside of the zone and with the off day tomorrow there is no reason to "save" the pen.
I'm not trying to save the pen, I'm trying to win the game.

Have the bullpen going, but leave him in.

[Edd Roush]

I'm not trying to save the pen, I'm trying to win the game.

Have the bullpen going, but leave him in.

I just don't want Kotchman walked and let BJ Upton get lucky on one pitch and then we are losing. The bullpen is ready, let's use it.

[Edd Roush]

Better get the bunt down here.

[VR]

I suspect a squeeze

[reds44]

I just don't want Kotchman walked and let BJ Upton get lucky on one pitch and then we are losing. The bullpen is ready, let's use it.
I hear you. You have a valid point, but I'm leaving him in.

[Homer Bailey]

Bunt in front of Janish? Really?

[reds44]

I smell a pop out.

[signalhome]

Don't understand the bunt there. Stubbs has been bad, but a bad Stubbs is substantially better than Janish. Hopefully Janish gets him in.

[reds44]

LOL @ your signature Homer. Where is that from?

[klw]

Bunt in front of Janish? Really?

My reaction as well.

[edabbs44]

Hanigan catches Volquez from now on.

Not sure that the Card game was his best, or even 2nd or 3rd best.

[Homer Bailey]

LOL @ your signature Homer. Where is that from?

The best looking player thread, haha.

[reds44]

The best looking player thread, haha.
HAHAHAHAHA that makes it even better, although it does make sense why he'd post that then.

[Edd Roush]

My Gameday has Janish up to bat now which is why I assumed the bunt. It skipped Stubbs altogether and I am used to him following the catcher either way.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Crud. Janish K's. 2 down.

[cumberlandreds]

Janish K's

[TheBurn]

Foul-tip strikeout for Janish :thumbdown:

[Homer Bailey]

Just awful, awful, awful managing.

[Matt700wlw]

Does Janish serve a purpose?

[Edd Roush]

Another disappointing at-bat from Paul Janish.

[reds44]

Honestly, if we aren't going to call up Cozart or make a trade I'd give ER some more ABs.

[OldXOhio]

brilliant piece of managing there

[signalhome]

I try to not be negative, but man, bunting Stubbs there is looking pretty bad now.

[Edd Roush]

Does Janish serve a purpose?

Defensive wizard at short-stop. I just wish he could hit his way out of a paper bag.

[_Sir_Charles_]

YES! Single for Lewis. 4-2 Reds

[cumberlandreds]

HIT!!!!!!!! Runs scores 4-2 Reds

[Matt700wlw]

Fred Lewis serves a purpose :)

[TheBurn]

Lewis drives in the run!
4-2 Rojos
:clap:

[OesterPoster]

Fred Lewis, your permanent leadoff man against righties.

[hebroncougar]

Defensive wizard at short-stop. I just wish he could hit his way out of a paper bag.

He sacrifices himself by looking bad at the plate, making Shields overconfident, thereby letting Lewis getting a fat pitch to hit for a 2 out RBI.

[reds44]

Lewis.

[Edd Roush]

Fat pitch there from Shields. I am shocked he hasn't been pulled yet.

[cumberlandreds]

Does Janish serve a purpose?

I honestly think he could be a good batboy. :) He looks the part.

[Edd Roush]

He sacrifices himself by looking bad at the plate, making Shields overconfident, thereby letting Lewis getting a fat pitch to hit for a 2 out RBI.

Haha, I love the mental mind games of Paul Janish!

[OesterPoster]

I honestly think he could be a good batboy. :) He looks the part.

He'd be pretty good at hitting infield pop fly practice.

[Homer Bailey]

I honestly think he could be a good batboy. :) He looks the part.

I wouldn't want him infecting other people's bats as well.

[cumberlandreds]

I wouldn't want him infecting other people's bats as well.

Yes that's true. I think Oester has it. Janish would be a good Fungo hitter.

[cumberlandreds]

Phillips GO. 4-2 Reds in the 7th.

[Edd Roush]

Come on, Dusty. Bring in a reliever here. Trust your bullpen.

[Matt700wlw]

Volquez still out there....Dusty has a lot of faith in this guy today.

[Matt700wlw]

Lewis out of the game....Heisey in the game

[_Sir_Charles_]

I hate to be the killjoy in the Paul Janish-pouncefest, but Phillips is 0 for 4 today, Bruce is 0 for 3 today with 3 k's, Stubbs is 0 for 3 today....but let's keep beating that same old drum because Janish is 0 for 3 today.

[cumberlandreds]

Kotch GO to Votto. Bray and Ondrusek warming

[Matt700wlw]

And thus the HR is now giveth....

[TheBurn]

And there it is... Upton with the HR to CF

[RichRed]

I hate to be the killjoy in the Paul Janish-pouncefest, but Phillips is 0 for 4 today, Bruce is 0 for 3 today with 3 k's, Stubbs is 0 for 3 today....but let's keep beating that same old drum because Janish is 0 for 3 today.

Problem is, Janish is 0 for every day.

[Homer Bailey]

I hate to be the killjoy in the Paul Janish-pouncefest, but Phillips is 0 for 4 today, Bruce is 0 for 3 today with 3 k's, Stubbs is 0 for 3 today....but let's keep beating that same old drum because Janish is 0 for 3 today.

Oh cmon Charles. Do we need to compare season numbers as well?

Runner on third with less than two outs, and he couldn't get the bat on the baseball. It was a terrible, terrible at bat.

[cumberlandreds]

HR by Upton. 4-3 Reds. That's it for Volquez.

[Edd Roush]

I hate to be the killjoy in the Paul Janish-pouncefest, but Phillips is 0 for 4 today, Bruce is 0 for 3 today with 3 k's, Stubbs is 0 for 3 today....but let's keep beating that same old drum because Janish is 0 for 3 today.

I can't speak for everybody, but I am down on Janish not just because of today, but because of his disappointing season. I did not expect a sub 600 OPS bat. As for the small sample sizes of Phillips and Bruce, both have been producing lately Bruce with a jack last night. While Stubbs may be disappointing, his OPS is still above 700.

[signalhome]

I hate to be the killjoy in the Paul Janish-pouncefest, but Phillips is 0 for 4 today, Bruce is 0 for 3 today with 3 k's, Stubbs is 0 for 3 today....but let's keep beating that same old drum because Janish is 0 for 3 today.

I think the frustration isn't as much about performance today as it is about performance over the entire season. While those three have certainly been disappointing today, Janish has disappointed at the plate on a consistent basis.

Personally, I'm much more annoyed with the poor performance of those three than with Janish, because I'm simply at the point where I don't expect Janish to do anything but make outs. I expect those three to be much better.

Edit: We should probably say Stubbs is 0-2, since Dusty took the bat out of his hands in his last plate appearance.

[Matt700wlw]

NOW Dusty goes and gets him...I see.

[Edd Roush]

I had a bad feeling about leaving Volquez in against BJ Upton. Now the lead has been halved. Let's hope the bullpen can be perfect.

[TheBurn]

Volquez 6.1 IP 4H 3ER 3BB 7K
Not bad at all considering...

[cumberlandreds]

NOW Dusty goes and gets him...I see.

I think Dusty was going to let him go until someone got on base. Unfortunately the one on base was a home run.

[reds44]

I hate to be the killjoy in the Paul Janish-pouncefest, but Phillips is 0 for 4 today, Bruce is 0 for 3 today with 3 k's, Stubbs is 0 for 3 today....but let's keep beating that same old drum because Janish is 0 for 3 today.
It's easy to beat the same old drum when Janish goes oh for just about everyday.

[cumberlandreds]

Volquez 6.1 IP 4H 3ER 3BB 7K
Not bad at all considering...

I would take that from him every game.

[Matt700wlw]

I would take that from him every game.

Me too....as long as those 3 runs don't come in the first inning :)

[cumberlandreds]

Fly out to Stubbs.

[cumberlandreds]

Ondrusek in the game BTW

[signalhome]

Volquez 6.1 IP 4H 3ER 3BB 7K
Not bad at all considering...

That's a BB/9 of, what, a shade under 4.5? If he can stay there, he will be effective. That's close to where he was in 2007.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I realize all that guys. I'm not trying to say he's having a good season. Not at all. But the pouncing on one guy gets old. This month for example.....

Janish is 16 for 65 (.246 ba)
Stubbs is 23 for 93 (.247 ba)
Bruce is 19 for 84 (.226 ba)

I don't see the pouncing on the other guys like I do Janish. Just about every player on the roster has had periods of them being brutal at the dish. Janish more than most. But we're winning and still complaining. Just tough to enjoy the game thread that way is all. Sorry. Just thought I'd voice my opinion on it. I certainly don't expect things to change. No biggie.

[reds44]

I realize all that guys. I'm not trying to say he's having a good season. Not at all. But the pouncing on one guy gets old. This month for example.....

Janish is 16 for 65 (.246 ba)
Stubbs is 23 for 93 (.247 ba)
Bruce is 19 for 84 (.226 ba)

I don't see the pouncing on the other guys like I do Janish. Just about every player on the roster has had periods of them being brutal at the dish. Janish more than most. But we're winning and still complaining. Just tough to enjoy the game thread that way is all. Sorry. Just thought I'd voice my opinion on it. I certainly don't expect things to change. No biggie.
Janish's period is the entire season.

[cumberlandreds]

Shoppach GO to SS. Good job by Ondrusek. Need another insurance run guys.

[signalhome]

I realize all that guys. I'm not trying to say he's having a good season. Not at all. But the pouncing on one guy gets old. This month for example.....

Janish is 16 for 65 (.246 ba)
Stubbs is 23 for 93 (.247 ba)
Bruce is 19 for 84 (.226 ba)

I don't see the pouncing on the other guys like I do Janish. Just about every player on the roster has had periods of them being brutal at the dish. Janish more than most. But we're winning and still complaining. Just tough to enjoy the game thread that way is all. Sorry. Just thought I'd voice my opinion on it. I certainly don't expect things to change. No biggie.

I understand your frustration, I really do. A barrage of negativity really gets under my skin. However, I think the threads are doing a good job of not raining the negativity on Stubbs and Bruce, because overall, their numbers are pretty good, or in Stubbs' case, at least acceptable. People aren't piling on them just because they've had a bad month, which is what really would frustrate me. Janish has been bad all year, so I understand the growing complaints. If Bruce had posted a .670 OPS all year like he has in June (something around .670, unsure of what it is exactly), I expect that the complaints would be piling up, as they rightfully should.

Edit: I should point out that I really like Janish. It's a borderline man-crush, because I really love watching good defense, especially guys with rocket arms. His offense has really disappointed me, though.

[Edd Roush]

Do you have Bray or Chapman pitch against Damon in the 8th? Bray pitched last night and gave up that "hit" to Damon, but I think I still like him in that match-up today.

[Edd Roush]

I realize all that guys. I'm not trying to say he's having a good season. Not at all. But the pouncing on one guy gets old. This month for example.....

Janish is 16 for 65 (.246 ba)
Stubbs is 23 for 93 (.247 ba)
Bruce is 19 for 84 (.226 ba)

I don't see the pouncing on the other guys like I do Janish. Just about every player on the roster has had periods of them being brutal at the dish. Janish more than most. But we're winning and still complaining. Just tough to enjoy the game thread that way is all. Sorry. Just thought I'd voice my opinion on it. I certainly don't expect things to change. No biggie.

I don't want to get too off topic here, but there is no way I am judging the Reds' offensive performance based solely upon BA.

[cumberlandreds]

Do you have Bray or Chapman pitch against Damon in the 8th? Bray pitched last night and gave up that "hit" to Damon, but I think I still like him in that match-up today.

Bray. I didn't see it last night but that was bloop wasn't it? Can't fault Bray for that. Chapman just too much unkown right now to bring him in a one run game.

Votto K's and is discussing things with Angel Hernandez.

[_Sir_Charles_]

2 of those called strikes were not even CLOSE

[signalhome]

That wasn't even close. Pitch FX has it outside by a mile.

[Matt700wlw]

Angel Hernandez must have to be somewhere by 3

[Homer Bailey]

That's one of the worst strike calls ive ever seen.

[cumberlandreds]

This set of umpires in the worst crew in MLB,IMO. None of them are good ball and strike umpires.

[Matt700wlw]

"Nobody's ever accused Angel Hernandez of being a good ball and strike caller" - Marty

[Edd Roush]

That's one of the worst strike calls ive ever seen.

As long as we get the same sized strike zone for the last two innings, I'm cool with it.

[_Sir_Charles_]

The second called strike was considerably outside too. But that 3rd one....Jeez!

[Homer Bailey]

Anyone have a gameday/pitchfx image of that one?

[signalhome]

That's one of the worst strike calls ive ever seen.

There was a low strike three on Rolen last year (near the 3/4 mark of the season, I believe) that was pretty awful, but that strike three on Votto was even worse.

[cumberlandreds]

Fly out to Joyce for the 2nd out.

[Matt700wlw]

Angel Hernandez would call Mayor Mallory's opening day attempt a strike.

[cumberlandreds]

Bruce going for the golden sombrero

[signalhome]

Anyone have a gameday/pitchfx image of that one?

Juuuuuuuuust a bit outside (http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/cache/numlocation.php-pitchSel=434442&game=gid_2011_06_29_cinmlb_tbamlb_1&batterX=57&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=3.gif)

[Homer Bailey]

There was a low strike three on Rolen last year (near the 3/4 mark of the season, I believe) that was pretty awful, but that strike three on Votto was even worse.

I remember that one. Hunder Wendlestatt I believe? It was against the Dodgers.

[cumberlandreds]

Angel Hernandez would call Mayor Mallory's opening day attempt a strike.

And John Wall's first pitch too.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Golden sombrero for Mr. Bruce. Ugh.

[cumberlandreds]

Bruce going for the golden sombrero

Give that man a hat. 4-3 Reds in the 8th

[Edd Roush]

As long as Bruce brings his glove for the last two innings, I will be okay.

[cumberlandreds]

Long fly out to Bruce by someone named Ruggiano. Whewwww I was afraid that was out by Martys call.

Bray coming in to face Damon.

[Homer Bailey]

Just grabbed the screen shot of the strike 3 call. Wait until you see this.

[Matt700wlw]

Bray coming in to face Damon

[signalhome]

Just grabbed the screen shot of the strike 3 call. Wait until you see this.

That pitch f/x image I posted is damning enough. I expect the actual screen to be even better.

[Edd Roush]

I like this move. I would bring in the Masset for Zobrist.

[cumberlandreds]

A roll out to Rolen. Two away.

[VR]

Nice bounceback game by Ondrusek

[_Sir_Charles_]

I understand your frustration, I really do. A barrage of negativity really gets under my skin. However, I think the threads are doing a good job of not raining the negativity on Stubbs and Bruce, because overall, their numbers are pretty good, or in Stubbs' case, at least acceptable. People aren't piling on them just because they've had a bad month, which is what really would frustrate me. Janish has been bad all year, so I understand the growing complaints. If Bruce had posted a .670 OPS all year like he has in June (something around .670, unsure of what it is exactly), I expect that the complaints would be piling up, as they rightfully should.

Edit: I should point out that I really like Janish. It's a borderline man-crush, because I really love watching good defense, especially guys with rocket arms. His offense has really disappointed me, though.

I agree. I wasn't trying to just point out Janish...just the general pouncing attitude in the game threads, he was just the most recent target. And from my point of view, in a game thread I tend to look at their performance in THAT game...not their season-wide performance. I'll drop it because it's not that big of a deal and it's just something that had been bugging me. Just felt the need to speak my mind a bit.

[cumberlandreds]

Zobrist K's. Nice work by Bray!

[Edd Roush]

Nicely done by Bray. Let's give Coco some insurance.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Billy, Billy, Billy. :O) I really think the Reds have some bullpen arms who've got a legit shot for the All Star game. But they'll probably just take starters and closers. But our middle relievers have been VERY good.

[VR]

Nice bounceback game by Ondrusek

and Bray....

[Homer Bailey]

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g413/solomocm/VottoStrike3.jpg

[CTA513]

This Bill Bray guy has been pretty decent so far this season.

[_Sir_Charles_]

LOL. That's great! :O)

[Playadlc]

I remember that one. Hunder Wendlestatt I believe? It was against the Dodgers.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=9077729

[cumberlandreds]

As the old saying goes, He couldn't have that with a ten foot pole. Good Lord!

If I had been Dusty I would been run in this game. No excuse for that.

[cumberlandreds]

Fly out to deep center. Dang...

[Edd Roush]

The home plate umpire should be suspended for that call.

[klw]

Is that where the catcher set up or did he have to move to get it? If he was set up there it always seems to help with the call. That being said....

[signalhome]

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=9077729

Yep. That's the one.

[_Sir_Charles_]

As the old saying goes, He couldn't have that with a ten foot pole. Good Lord!

If I had been Dusty I would been run in this game. No excuse for that.

Watch that video that Playadlc just posted. It points out exactly why Dusty wouldn't have gotten run today. You can't see inside/outside from the dugout. High/low...yes.

I am surprised that Votto didn't get run though. He was RIGHTLY pissed.

[Homer Bailey]

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=9077729

Amazing.

[VR]

Amazing.

Does framing a pitch make a difference? :)

[RedLegsToday]

That pitch was in the righty batter's box! Holy Moly!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Is that where the catcher set up or did he have to move to get it? If he was set up there it always seems to help with the call. That being said....

Well, the thing that still picture doesn't show is that it crossed the plate right over the middle, but it had some VERY late break....of about 3 feet. :O)

[cumberlandreds]

Yep. That's the one.

I remember that. Terrible. Hunter Wendlestadt is another umpire who is not good at all. His daddy was much much better.

[cumberlandreds]

Gomes K's

[_Sir_Charles_]

Gomes K's

Hanny

[cumberlandreds]

Hanny

Whoops sorry it was Hanigan.

[Edd Roush]

9 pitches to get Hanny to K too. Heckuva day from him. The Reds' aren't pitching in the bottom of the 9th if Hanny doesn't come to play.

[signalhome]

If anyone's interested, here's the Pitch F/X data for that Rolen third strike vs. Votto's third strike.

Rolen's Strike Three (http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/cache/numlocation.php-pitchSel=477132&game=gid_2010_06_16_lanmlb_cinmlb_1&batterX=53&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=3.gif)

Votto's Strike Three (http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/cache/numlocation.php-pitchSel=434442&game=gid_2011_06_29_cinmlb_tbamlb_1&batterX=57&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=3.gif)

Votto's was worse. Votto's was outside by six inches, Rolen's was low by about four inches.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Stubbs' k's to end the inning. I will say this, the Rays have some swing and miss guys...that's for sure.

[cumberlandreds]

Stubbs K's.

Cordero will face the heart of the Rays lineup. Go getem' Coco.

[Homer Bailey]

I tweeted that screen shot, and my twitter has BLOWN up. Steve Berthiaume, Jonah Keri, C Trent, Dave Schoenfield, etc.

[Edd Roush]

I tweeted that screen shot, and my twitter has BLOWN up. Steve Berthiaume, Jonah Keri, C Trent, Dave Schoenfield, etc.

Hopefully with the way social media is the way today, you get a shout out on MLB Network tonight.

[Homer Bailey]

Hopefully with the way social media is the way today, you get a shout out on MLB Network tonight.

Haha, or they could show the video. ;)

[Edd Roush]

Nice rally from a 3-0 count by Coco.

[cumberlandreds]

GO to Votto 3-1 good comeback by Coco. He was 3-0 in the count and came back to get Longoria.

[cumberlandreds]

Joyce singles to rf. You knew this wouldn't be easy.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

If anyone's interested, here's the Pitch F/X data for that Rolen third strike vs. Votto's third strike.

Rolen's Strike Three (http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/cache/numlocation.php-pitchSel=477132&game=gid_2010_06_16_lanmlb_cinmlb_1&batterX=53&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=3.gif)

Votto's Strike Three (http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/cache/numlocation.php-pitchSel=434442&game=gid_2011_06_29_cinmlb_tbamlb_1&batterX=57&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=3.gif)

Votto's was worse. Votto's was outside by six inches, Rolen's was low by about four inches.

Maybe that one called on Rolen was a makeup for the missed pitch #6 called a ball. Still pretty bad though.

[_Sir_Charles_]

And this one belongs to the Reds! Yessirree! 6-3 dp to end it!

[cumberlandreds]

6-3 DP and this one belongs to the REDS!!!!!!!!!

[TheBurn]

DP to end it!
This one belongs to the Rojos!
:clap:

[BuckeyeRedleg]

Nice!

[Playadlc]

We won a 1-run game!!!

WOOHOO!!!!

[cumberlandreds]

A very good series win. I never thought they could win today with Volquez against Shields.

[reds44]

2 of 3 in Tampa, can't complain.

[OesterPoster]

That's the first winning series since when? I can't even remember.