Braves vs Reds 7-24-2011

[Ron Madden]

Cincinnati Reds
Stubbs 8
Renteria 6
Votto 3
Phillips 4
Bruce 9
Heisey 7
Cairo 5
Hernandez 2
Willis 1

Atlanta Braves
Prado 5
Heyward 9
McCann 2
Uggla 4
Freeman 3
Gonzalez 6
Ramirez 7
McLouth 8
Beachy 1

.

[Slyder]

My tv said that there was suppose to baseball from 1-4 was it wrong? Rain Delay? Rain Out? Because normally the HSN type shows was preempted by Fox Sports Ohio. My tv provider is Charter (or whatever its being called now).

[Tom Servo]

My tv said that there was suppose to baseball from 1-4 was it wrong? Rain Delay? Rain Out? Because normally the HSN type shows was preempted by Fox Sports Ohio. My tv provider is Charter (or whatever its being called now).
It's the Sunday night game on ESPN.

[Screwball]

Yeah, given tonight's game is on national TV and the Reds, by rule, aren't allowed to win back-to-back games anymore, I think I know who I'm laying money on tonight...

[forfreelin04]

I think this one belongs to the Reds. The Braves are stocked with lefties which favors Willis and a game like yesterday is going to give the offense some confidence.

Time to get Positive Redszone!!!

[Captain Hook]

I'm with ya.A win tonight and we're just 3 games back!

[Patrick Bateman]

On a WAR per plate appearance basis, Cairo is neck and neck with Joey for top player on the Reds.
Just thought I would throw that out there. Getting that old fogey Rolen out of here for the young sensation Cairo should continue making the Reds a better team.

Just thought I would throw that out there.

[The Voice of IH]

Big game tonight! got to get this win!

My tv is out, is anyone doing pbp here?

[Big Klu]

Is the the first time the Reds have ever worn red jerseys for a night game?

[Tom Servo]

Heisey shaved!

[forfreelin04]

Heisey shaving pleases the baseball gods

[Tom Servo]

D-Train don't give a F! Awesome.

[REDSEER]

I like energy guys: I like Dontrelle

Not a very good feed from Joey again....his fielding has left something to be desired lately.

[Brutus]

I like energy guys: I like Dontrelle

In a limited sample, admittedly, I trust Willis out there more than I trust Bronson.

[mth123]

I like energy guys: I like Dontrelle

:thumbup:

[mth123]

Prado Bobbles. Stubbs runs like heck. E5 runner on 1B for Renteria with no outs.

[mth123]

Renteria Ks.

[nate]

Chat is open!

[mth123]

Votto to Prado. 2 Outs. Stubbs on first.

[Patrick Bateman]

You know, when Willis has had the ability to throw strikes, he has always been pretty decent.

In his trouble years he never could. He has thrown well in the minors and continued with a few minor bad control innings in the majors. I think he's healthy and has improved mechanics. At this point, I don't think we need to be as skeptical of him as in years past.

[REDSEER]

I would like to see Stubbs take a shot at stealing here....

and there he goes!! SB #25 for Drew

[mth123]

HR Phillips.

[Tom Servo]

:phillips:

:jump:

[Matt700wlw]

He's back.

[mth123]

Bruce grounds to 1B. Inning over. 2-0 Reds.

[CTA513]

ground out to 1st on a 3-0 count

[REDSEER]

Big things happen when Stubbs gets on base. Honestly, with his strikeout problems I would have no problem with him being very aggressive early in the count. He generally puts the barrel on the ball when he makes contact, and I could live with him acting like less of the prototypical leadoff man.

[signalhome]

Big things happen when Stubbs gets on base. Honestly, with his strikeout problems I would have no problem with him being very aggressive early in the count. He generally puts the barrel on the ball when he makes contact, and I could live with him acting like less of the prototypical leadoff man.

Only problem is that his walks would plummet were he to be more aggressive early in the count.

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Brandon Phillips - 116
21. Frank McCormick - 110
22. Dave Parker - 107
23. Chris Sabo - 104
24. Joey Votto - 103
25. Dave Concepcion - 101

[REDSEER]

Only problem is that his walks would plummet were he to be more aggressive early in the count.

Definitely. I'm guess what I'm saying is that while I don't want him to go all Jeff Francoeur on us, I don't want him to take fastballs right down the middle in hitter's counts just because he is the leadoff hitter.

[signalhome]

Definitely. I'm guess what I'm saying is that while I don't want him to go all Jeff Francoeur on us, I don't want him to take fastballs right down the middle in hitter's counts just because he is the leadoff hitter.

Yep. Stubbs really isn't cut out to be a leadoff hitter; his OBP is a bit too low, and his power profiles better more in the middle of the order. Then again -- as has been harped on endlessly for two years -- the Reds lack a legitimate leadoff guy.

[mth123]

Definitely. I'm guess what I'm saying is that while I don't want him to go all Jeff Francoeur on us, I don't want him to take fastballs right down the middle in hitter's counts just because he is the leadoff hitter.

I don't think he's taking them because he's a lead-off hitter, He's taking them because he gets fooled alot. Especially against RHP.

[cinreds21]

Did he just call that strike three on Heisey a fastball?

[Ron Madden]

Cairo goes deep!!!

[REDSEER]

Miguel. Boom.

3-0 Reds!

[Patrick Bateman]

My lord.

He's like a mini-mini-mini Jose Bautisita is terms of unexpected production.

[Matt700wlw]

Is this real life?

:jump:

[Tom Servo]

Miggy!

[kaldaniels]

I hope the good offense is back to stay.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Miggy! :jump:

[Matt700wlw]

Gettin' Miggy Wit it.

[REDSEER]

Until Rolen is completely healthy, I want to see more Cairo

[Tom Servo]

I remember when Dontrelle crushed a Jose Lima fastball into the stratosphere for a grand slam. It was a great moment in baseball.

[CTA513]

My lord.

He's like a mini-mini-mini Jose Bautisita is terms of unexpected production.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g205/CTA513/mini-jose-bautista.jpg

[Ron Madden]

Drew Stubbs walks, Hernandez moves to second. Two on two out with Edgar at the plate.

[cinreds21]

I remember when Dontrelle crushed a Jose Lima fastball into the stratosphere for a grand slam. It was a great moment in baseball.

Ohhhh I love that moment too. I remember watching it live. Great times.

[Matt700wlw]

Thought Edgar had that one for a second

[VR]

I would have preferred Edgar let that go for ball 4 and bring Votto up.

[Ron Madden]

Renteria flies out to CF on a 3-2 pitch.

3-0 Reds after 2 innings

[signalhome]

Man, Bruce, c'mon. Awful.

[cinreds21]

lol


m_sheldon Mark Sheldon
Still 2-3 yrs away. 29 errors this yr. People have to be realistic on timetable -- RT @indycoltsfan33: heck why not bring up Hamilton?

[Matt700wlw]

Willis made him look silly

[_Sir_Charles_]

Big K there. Let's go Dontrelle...Houdini time!

[Patrick Bateman]

lol

Baseball is the only sport that illicits as insane opinions as that.

[Tom Servo]

trainer visit to the mound for D-Train. That ain't good.

[Matt700wlw]

Rock and roll D-Train.

[Matt700wlw]

Sparky!

[cinreds21]

Uh oh. Bullpen is warming.

[Tom Servo]

Baseball is the only sport that illicits as insane opinions as that.
You know, Sheldon kinda brought this question on himself.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110119&content_id=16459324&c_id=mlb

[_Sir_Charles_]

Any clue why the trainer went out to see Dontrelle?

[cinreds21]

Looked like a nail or blister problem. Likely the former.

[The Voice of IH]

Holy cow that was almost out of the stadium lol :laugh:.

Mccain is a good ball player.

[Matt700wlw]

McCann should be arrested. That ball was murdered.

[The Voice of IH]

Not good.

[Tony Cloninger]

Come on Barry....you cannot name a few pitchers on the BRM? One of them was on your team for half your career as the pitching coach.

[Matt700wlw]

Barry Larkin's numbers must have gotten better this year, since he gained 10% more votes for the Hall.

[Ron Madden]

My God Hernandez is SLOW.

[The Voice of IH]

Come on Barry....you cannot name a few pitchers on the BRM? One of them was on your team for half your career as the pitching coach.

Yeah seriously, I am more than half his age and I know several.

[VR]

Barry Larkin's numbers must have gotten better this year, since he gained 10% more votes for the Hall.

Politics of the voters.

[*BaseClogger*]

Come on Barry....you cannot name a few pitchers on the BRM? One of them was on your team for half your career as the pitching coach.

Nevermind the fact he is a baseball "analyst" on television now and should know these things. Hell, how did he not read Joe P.'s The Machine from a couple of years ago?

[Ron Madden]

Reds 3 Braves 2 after 4 innings.

Where is everybody?

[mbgrayson]

I'm here, lurking....

[Red in Chicago]

I'm here, lurking....

Given the fact that it's been a month without back to back wins, I'd say everyone is waiting for the inevitable to happen:laugh:

[mbgrayson]

Willis is through 5 innings on 61 pitches, 41 strikes. Given up 2 earned runs, 2 BBs, and 4 hits, while striking out 2.

Dusty said on ESPN that Dontrelle has a 'nail problem' tonight.

[Ron Madden]

Dusty tells Buster Only that Willis has a cracked finger nail and they will keep a close eye on him.

Willis looked good to me during the top of the fifth inning.

[757690]

Votto needs a day off. Big time.

[Ron Madden]

Reds holding a 3-2 lead after five innings.

[Always Red]

Votto needs a day off. Big time.

Valentine noticing and commenting on the same tentative Votto swings we have been witnessing this year.

I think Valentine and Hershiser are just excellent together. I learn something everytime I hear these two.

[kaldaniels]

Votto needs a day off. Big time.

Remember the last time a thread was started saying this. Keep him in there.

[Ron Madden]

That ball ate Cairo up.

E 5

[kaldaniels]

Please be careful Dontrelle.

[kaldaniels]

3-2 Reds after 5.5.

[VR]

When do we start talking about keeping Dontrelle in the rotation?

[kaldaniels]

When do we start talking about keeping Dontrelle in the rotation?

He is in as far as I am concerned until he pitches himself out. That simple.

[kaldaniels]

Getting thru the 7th has seemingly been the Achilles heel for the Reds starters this season. I've seen many a nice start implode around the 6th/7th inning. If Willis gets thru 7 tonight I'm feeling really good.

[Tom Servo]

He is in as far as I am concerned until he pitches himself out. That simple.
Agreed. It may not always be pretty but he's getting results.

[Ron Madden]

Heisey comes back from an 0-2 count to draw a base on balls.

[kaldaniels]

Agreed. It may not always be pretty but he's getting results.

The actual question for me has been...what will it take to bring him back next year? Its putting the cart before the horse at this point...but I am definitely intrigued so far. We have time on that decision though.

[Ron Madden]

WP Heisey to third

[Ron Madden]

IBB to Hernandez to get to Willis.

[Tom Servo]

couldn't even tell what happened there

[kaldaniels]

Wuz we robbed there?

[VR]

Foul ball.....not even remotely close.

Oh well.

[Ron Madden]

I thought it could've been foul.

[Tom Servo]

Certainly risky sending the D-Train out for the 7th here, but I'm not opposed to it.

[bucksfan2]

This team just finds a way to self destruct this season.

[The Voice of IH]

That is so sloppy! c'mon we are trying to get back into a division race!

[signalhome]

Terrible defense by Hernandez led to that run. Looked like he should have blocked that ball.

[dsmith421]

There goes the lead. Man, Dusty can't buy a break this year. Every time he leaves a starter in, they honk.

[Tom Servo]

Oh boy, Masset...

[Matt700wlw]

Bummer.

I thought the D-Train looked good though.

[The Voice of IH]

Phillips was not even covering first to nab the runner.

[bucksfan2]

There goes the lead. Man, Dusty can't buy a break this year. Every time he leaves a starter in, they honk.

Not a bad move. You had McClouth, PH, then Prado. You have to like that lefty matchup. Unfortunately the Reds can't seem to get out of their own way this season.

[kaldaniels]

Getting thru the 7th has seemingly been the Achilles heel for the Reds starters this season. I've seen many a nice start implode around the 6th/7th inning. If Willis gets thru 7 tonight I'm feeling really good.

There it is.

[dsmith421]

Not a bad move. You had McClouth, PH, then Prado. You have to like that lefty matchup. Unfortunately the Reds can't seem to get out of their own way this season.

It happened Friday too, though. A little "Captain Hook" mentality would not go amiss down the stretch, especially given the top-to-bottom strength of the pen.

[VR]

Votto picked off. BP not covering 1st. RH with a sloppy passed ball.

Too many reminders of the lost decade lately.

[signalhome]

One pitch and then the hook? That's a TLR move.

[Tom Servo]

strong outing for Masset :rolleyes:

[Matt700wlw]

That was eventful

[Matt700wlw]

Nice!

[Red in Chicago]

Oflar due to give it up.

[Tom Servo]

Another hit for Stubbs. Need to get him across home this inning.

[mbgrayson]

Originally Posted by kaldaniels
Getting thru the 7th has seemingly been the Achilles heel for the Reds starters this season. I've seen many a nice start implode around the 6th/7th inning. If Willis gets thru 7 tonight I'm feeling really good.
There it is.

I was thinking the same thing, but here are the Reds runs allowed by inning:

1st: 66
2nd: 35
3rd: 48
4th: 52
5th: 50
6th: 48
7th: 45
8th: 46
9th: 31

Keep in mind that in most road losses, we don't pitch the 9th....

[Kc61]

Hope Reds win, but twice this series Dusty pushed his starter to seven innings and it backfired.

I understand tonight, low pitch count and all, but I wish Dusty would have a slightly quicker hook.

[Tom Servo]

Hope Reds win, but twice this series Dusty pushed his starter to seven innings and it backfired.

I understand tonight, low pitch count and all, but I wish Dusty would have a slightly quicker hook.
He should have pulled the D-Train after the McLouth single or passed ball, imo, but if we lose this isn't a Dusty-centric loss. Gotta get some more runs.

[kaldaniels]

I was thinking the same thing, but here are the Reds runs allowed by inning:

1st: 66
2nd: 35
3rd: 48
4th: 52
5th: 50
6th: 48
7th: 45
8th: 46
9th: 31

Keep in mind that in most road losses, we don't pitch the 9th....

A certain guy skews that stat. :D

Cumulative runs really don't tell the story on this one.

[kaldaniels]

This is where you earn your dollar Joey.

[bucksfan2]

Hope Reds win, but twice this series Dusty pushed his starter to seven innings and it backfired.

I understand tonight, low pitch count and all, but I wish Dusty would have a slightly quicker hook.

Hernandez doesnt o'lay that WP then Lugo's ball may just be a DP.

Dusty can do whatever he wants but it comes down to the players executing. For some reason this team hasn't executed this year.

[Kc61]

He should have pulled the D-Train after the McLouth single or passed ball, imo, but if we lose this isn't a Dusty-centric loss. Gotta get some more runs.

I agree. I'm not livid about it tonight. Team needs to score more.

Maybe Votto will knock one in.

[kaldaniels]

Gotta love the MVP non-strike call.

[Tom Servo]

yeesh.

[Red in Chicago]

Ugly swing

[bucksfan2]

Votto is in a huge funk right now.

[Ron Madden]

Joey Votto swings and misses ball four

[bucksfan2]

Does Bruce make contact this AB?

[kaldaniels]

Does Bruce make contact this AB?

Jay works it back to 2-2. That in itself was unlikely.

[bucksfan2]

Not even close.

[Tom Servo]

sigh

[The Voice of IH]

Votto AND Bruce strikeout, terrible.

[Matt700wlw]

Nope. No contact

[kaldaniels]

I smell walkoff ladies and gentleman. Just a hunch.

[forfreelin04]

Votto swung at 2 ball 4's. Bllllech

[forfreelin04]

I smell walkoff ladies and gentleman. Just a hunch.

It's a tingle on the back of the neck

[kaldaniels]

Dang Uggla getting blown away. 1 more please.

[kaldaniels]

Nice to see the triple digits show up.

[forfreelin04]

Chappy looking filthy

[Matt700wlw]

Uggla had no chance

[Tom Servo]

got heem

[bucksfan2]

Ball caught Votto there!

[Matt700wlw]

5 outs on 9 pitches.

YES PLEASE!!

[kaldaniels]

5 outs on 9 pitches.

YES PLEASE!!

If tied, any reason to not send him out for the 9th...if he doesn't bat?

[OldXOhio]

No reason to not bring him out in the 9th

[bucksfan2]

If tied, any reason to not send him out for the 9th...if he doesn't bat?

I would. That would mean the Reds go out in order though.

[kaldaniels]

Uggla had no chance

I will re-watch that AB later...that was pure,unfiltered,domination.

[forfreelin04]

I'm feeling a walkoff from an unlikely source......Paul janish?

[mbgrayson]

We need some of those extra runs from last night....

[Tom Servo]

Jonny Venters just sounds like a classic baseball name.

[OldXOhio]

I'm feeling a walkoff from an unlikely source......Paul janish?

I'll go with the guy who's looked completely lost at the plate tonight: Votto.

[OldXOhio]

How many times has this ESPN team used the phrase "class act" tonight?

[forfreelin04]

Jonny Venters just sounds like a classic baseball name.


I'll go with the guy who's looked completely lost at the plate tonight: Votto.

I'd take that too.

[Tom Servo]

no Chapman for the 9th.

[dsmith421]

That looked like a very intentional unintentional walk.

[Red in Chicago]

Come on jonny.

[Reds Freak]

I can't imagine he would, but I almost wonder if Venters did that on purpose to get Chapman out of the game...

[Tom Servo]

way to be patient Gomes.

[mbgrayson]

As Brantley just said: "Jonny be good"

[Matt700wlw]

Oh, Jonny Gomes.

[CTA513]

I can't imagine he would, but I almost wonder if Venters did that on purpose to get Chapman out of the game...

Either way it worked and they get to face Cordero in the 9th instead of Chapman.

[mbgrayson]

Jonny be bad, velly velly bad.

[Matt700wlw]

If I'm the little girl in that ally commercial, I kick the mean guy in the crotch.

[bucksfan2]

If I'm that girl in that ally commercial, I kick the mean guy in the crotch.

:thumbup:

[forfreelin04]

Jonny be bad, velly velly bad.
bobblehead night is over. I'll take less than a PTBNL for him

[bucksfan2]

bobblehead night is over. I'll take less than a PTBNL for him

I don't have a problem with it. As a PH you have to jump on the first good pitch you see. Gomes hit it hard, just in the wrong spot.

[bucksfan2]

Thrill a minute Cordero on the rubber tonight.

[dsmith421]

I know what's going to happen, but I have the masochistic impulse to see how.

[kaldaniels]

I don't have a problem with it. As a PH you have to jump on the first good pitch you see. Gomes hit it hard, just in the wrong spot.

That is true. Votto's AB was worse. Gotta be fair.

[OldXOhio]

I don't have a problem with it. As a PH you have to jump on the first good pitch you see. Gomes hit it hard, just in the wrong spot.

I don't have an issue with Gomes AB as much as I do PH for Chapman there.

[Red in Chicago]

I know what's going to happen, but I have the masochistic impulse to see how.

:laugh:

[Tom Servo]

i've seen this game before.

[bucksfan2]

I don't have an issue with Gomes AB as much as I do PH for Chapman there.

Two outs in a tie game?!? Every manager PH there.

[Matt700wlw]

Cordero's not going to make this easy

[kaldaniels]

Two outs in a tie game?!? Every manager PH there.

God help us had Chapman batted there. Seriously...are we even suggesting he should have hit...if so, show yourself.

[OldXOhio]

Two outs in a tie game?!? Every manager PH there.

Against a filthy LH with Jonny Gomes as your PH. It's not outside of reasonable to at least raise the question.

[bucksfan2]

Against a filthy LH with Jonny Gomes as your PH. It's not outside of reasonable to at least raise the question.

So you give up the inning? Makes no sense.

[kaldaniels]

Against a filthy LH with Jonny Gomes as your PH. It's not outside of reasonable to at least raise the question.

Shame on you. :D

[Playadlc]

Terrible throw there.

[kaldaniels]

Good throw would have had him.

[bucksfan2]

Stolen on the pitcher?

[kaldaniels]

Stolen on the pitcher?

Nope. High throw.

[bucksfan2]

Nope. High throw.

Poor throw but its Alex Gonzales running. Its not like he is a speedster.

[Tom Servo]

Heisey apparently okay, thank goodness.

[Matt700wlw]

Stubbs killed Heisey

[kaldaniels]

Poor throw but its Alex Gonzales running. Its not like he is a speedster.

Not sure of your point. Do you not agree a good throw would have had him?

[bucksfan2]

Nice catch, poor communication.

[kaldaniels]

Know when to back off Heisey.

[Ron Madden]

Stolen on the pitcher?

Yes. Even though the throw was high the runner had a hell of a jump.

[Matt700wlw]

Stubbs was yelling "I got it"

[OldXOhio]

Nice catch, poor communication.

Not on Stubbs part.

[Reds Freak]

Cordero vs. Conrad again...yeeessh...

[bucksfan2]

Not sure of your point. Do you not agree a good throw would have had him?

A good throw probably gets him there. But with a runner like Gonzales a throw on the bag should get him.

[Tom Servo]

got heeeeem

[Playadlc]

Nice job, Coco.

Well done.

[kaldaniels]

Could I get a RZ round of applause for Coco?

[Matt700wlw]

Nice! Send 'em home happy, boys!

[Matt700wlw]

:clap:

COCO

[OldXOhio]

Know when to back off Heisey.

Yeah Stubbs was clearly calling for it.

[Brutus]

Could I get a RZ round of applause for Coco?

I'll go one better... a standing-"o" and tip o' the cap

[kaldaniels]

Stubbs. ER. Votto.

Someone end it.

[paintmered]

STUBBS!!!!!

[Hollcat]

Gomes now 0-15 as ph

[Playadlc]

WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!

Here we come, NL Central.

[Red in Chicago]

Wow. Stubby

[Hollcat]

Stubby!!

[paintmered]

REDS WIN!! REDS WIN!! REDS WIN!!

:jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump:

[dsmith421]

BOOM BOOM

[OldXOhio]

How'd we get Linebrink there?

[Tom Servo]

yaaaa boy

[Matt700wlw]

The surge is on!

:D

[Ron Madden]

Drew Stubbs goes DEEP!!!!!

[dsmith421]

BACK TO BACK (wins)

[bucksfan2]

Wonder if the ATL fans are upset over Kimbrel not being brought it?

[kaldaniels]

Raise that OBP Drew!

[paintmered]

3 games out now. Bring it.

[757690]

Drew Stubbs needs to choke up on the bat and cut down on his swing. ;)

[CrackerJack]

Finally...Stubbs got tools

[bucksfan2]

Drew Stubbs needs to choke up on the bat and cut down on his swing. ;)

didn't have two strikes on him ;)

[kaldaniels]

I smell walkoff ladies and gentleman. Just a hunch.

And people think I'm the board idiot....:D

[kaldaniels]

5-4 since the ASB (hard to believe), Mets coming to town, does it start now?

[mbgrayson]

And people think I'm the board idiot....:D

Even a blind squirrel ....

LOL!

[paintmered]

And people think I'm the board idiot....:D

You're so good at it, we don't need another. :D

[kaldaniels]

Even a blind squirrel ....

LOL!

You are correct sir! :laugh:

[Big Klu]

Back-to-back wins for the first time in over a month!

To my knowledge, this was the first time the Reds have ever worn red jerseys for a night game. I vote they keep wearing them, since both wins during the current streak were in red.

[Tom Servo]

‪Hey Everybody We're All Gonna Get Laid‬‏ - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxvdvoQgAy8)

[kaldaniels]

That was serious power on that from Stubbs. Out of the zone outside pitch....and he goes oppage on it.

[CrackerJack]

Coco barely got out of that though...still not feeling real good about that cat or Massett. But, no sense complaining about holding them to 3 runs and Willis stepping up and pitching well yet again.

Just glad to see them finally win a back-to-back game doing their typical 11 runs one night, 3 runs the next, and making it 4 with the help of Stubby...who can be crazy good and made things happen throughout the game (catch at wall/stolen base, walk-off et al).

[FlightRick]

Glad for the end to the no-back-to-back-win streak.

But did anybody catch the ESPN Game of the Week stats that Kelch just mentioned. I was only half listening, but I think he said that until tonight, we were 0-for Great American, and last won an ESPN Sunday game in 1992 at Riverfront.

Also, counting all games, we lost 8 or so GotW appearances. Which is a function of not being invited onto ESPN' s Sunday game, but also indicates epic levels of Suck by the Redlegs...

Did anybody get all those ESPN GotW stats and want to reshare them? I almost couldn't believe my ears, so I'd love to have them recorded for posterity (and so I can fact-check them, if I still don't believe them once somebody re-shares them)....


Rick

[kaldaniels]

Glad for the end to the no-back-to-back-win streak.

But did anybody catch the ESPN Game of the Week stats that Kelch just mentioned. I was only half listening, but I think he said that until tonight, we were 0-for Great American, and last won an ESPN Sunday game in 1992 at Riverfront.

Also, counting all games, we lost 8 or so GotW appearances. Which is a function of not being invited onto ESPN' s Sunday game, but also indicates epic levels of Suck by the Redlegs...

Did anybody get all those ESPN GotW stats and want to reshare them? I almost couldn't believe my ears, so I'd love to have them recorded for posterity (and so I can fact-check them, if I still don't believe them once somebody re-shares them)....


Rick

I thought I saw the Reds last won on SNB in 2001. Member since 2003, 256 total posts....post more dude, we need you!

[Screwball]

Yeah, given tonight's game is on national TV and the Reds, by rule, aren't allowed to win back-to-back games anymore, I think I know who I'm laying money on tonight...

Like I was saying, I knew the good guys had this one the whole time.

The Reds just took 2 out of 3 from a very good and talented club. The one they lost got away from them late. I don't think they're gonna go on any Red Soxian 10-game winning streaks, but I really feel like their best ball is ahead of them. They got the guns, they just need to quit shooting themselves in the foot.

[FlightRick]

I thought I saw the Reds last won on SNB in 2001. Member since 2003, 256 total posts....post more dude, we need you!

Hey, those 256 posts were enough to get me into the ORG! I'm very proud of the fact that I have awesome things to say about baseball. I'm also very aware of the fact that RedZone has other awesome people who tend to say things about baseball before I get around to it. Ergo: I'm not going to waste anybody's time by repeating something somebody else already said.

But thanks for the sentiment. I appreciate it.

In this case, I am counting on the awesomeness of somebody else to bail me out on this question.... even if I misheard the "1992," the 0-for-GABP on ESPN Sunday Night Baseball seems to be accurate, then? Snapping an 8-game GotW losing streak could be about right, too?

I'm really curious to know what those overall Reds/ESPNGotW stats were... in an odd way, that might be the best microcosm of "the lost decade" you could come up with: it doesn't just get to the pain of being a true Reds fan, but also explains why nobody outside of Cinci is aware of the Reds....


Rick

[PuffyPig]

Coco barely got out of that though....

He struck out the batter, that's not "barely".

He faced 4 batters, struck out 2 of them, gave up a fly ball and a single.

A decent throw gets the runner stealing.

I know we all expected the worse, but CoCo took the bad luck equation out of it by striking out the batter..

[WVRedsFan]

And people think I'm the board idiot....:D

You gotta compete with me for that :laugh:

Great win.

[VR]

And people think I'm the board idiot....:D

Keep smellin it kal. No showers for you until the Reds lose.

[Reds Freak]

Dickey vs. Leake
Niese vs. Cueto
Pelfrey vs. Arroyo
Capuano vs. Bailey

Four very winnable games here against the Mets. Be nice to get three!

[Ron Madden]

Box score.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2011_07_24_atlmlb_cinmlb_1&mode=box&c_id=cin

[Homer Bailey]

I smell walkoff ladies and gentleman. Just a hunch.

Just went through the game thread. This was called plenty early. Well done.

[HeatherC1212]

Dickey vs. Leake
Niese vs. Cueto
Pelfrey vs. Arroyo
Capuano vs. Bailey

Four very winnable games here against the Mets. Be nice to get three!

Of the last five games I've been to at GABP (all in July :eek: ), I've only seen one win so I'd really appreciate if the Reds could win the Tuesday night game in a huge way. That's my next game. I love being at the ballpark no matter what but wins are SO much more fun, LOL ;)

And I love walk off funkblasts! :jump:

[CrackerJack]

He struck out the batter, that's not "barely".

He faced 4 batters, struck out 2 of them, gave up a fly ball and a single.

A decent throw gets the runner stealing.

I know we all expected the worse, but CoCo took the bad luck equation out of it by striking out the batter..

I suppose I equate "barely" with a ball caught up against the wall with two OF's colliding that was a foot away from a 2-run HR...if he hadn't been so bad of late (in stark comparison to his excellent first half over-all) I probably wouldn't say anything I guess.

[kaldaniels]

I suppose I equate "barely" with a ball caught up against the wall with two OF's colliding that was a foot away from a 2-run HR...if he hadn't been so bad of late (in stark comparison to his excellent first half over-all) I probably wouldn't say anything I guess.

Hyperbole on the "foot away" from the home run part there I have to add. If Heisey hadn't made it so interesting it was a ball to the track caught by Stubbs.

[GAC]

Willis has been a welcome addition to this rotation. Pitched good, kept us in the game.

I certainly don't miss EV. LOL

[redsmetz]

We're out of town this weekend and my wife slept lousy on Saturday night with us driving home today. She's saying to me & our daughters that if it goes into extras, the TV's going off. I know, she's a lifelong baseball fan, but she was insisting it was going off. So Drew saw to it that we could get our sleep and win the game all on one pitch. Well, not exactly, since I decided I had better doublecheck my one daughter's flight reservations since she didn't go on her inbound flight (O'Hare flooding on Friday) and we bought her a 1-way ticket here - and sure enough, they'd canceled the return flight for her. Fortunately two of her cousins are driving back to Chicago & she's riding with them & Continental's refunding our money. But Reds Win and we got most of our sleep.

[Ron Madden]

Glad for the end to the no-back-to-back-win streak.

But did anybody catch the ESPN Game of the Week stats that Kelch just mentioned. I was only half listening, but I think he said that until tonight, we were 0-for Great American, and last won an ESPN Sunday game in 1992 at Riverfront.

Also, counting all games, we lost 8 or so GotW appearances. Which is a function of not being invited onto ESPN' s Sunday game, but also indicates epic levels of Suck by the Redlegs...

Did anybody get all those ESPN GotW stats and want to reshare them? I almost couldn't believe my ears, so I'd love to have them recorded for posterity (and so I can fact-check them, if I still don't believe them once somebody re-shares them)....


Rick


The Reds are 8-16 after last nights win on ESPN Sunday Night Baseball

Prior to last night the Reds last win on ESPN Sunday Night Baseball was on 8-13-2000 vs Cubs @ Wrigley.

The last Reds ESPN Sunday Night Baseball win at home was 6-14-1992 vs the Dodgers.


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[traderumor]

Phillips was not even covering first to nab the runner.I didn't want to repeat something that was in the game thread. I was disturbed by some good ESPN camera work. I was upset when Hernandez did not give a better effort to block the pitch in the dirt that allowed McLouth to advance into scoring position. I thought, "I can't stand Yadier Molina, but you can never say it was lack of effort if one gets by him." Hernandez did not even go to his knees or shift, just barely put the glove out. His only defense would be "I was crossed up."

Then, when I saw the right play made to get the trailing runner except Brandon was standing watching the play instead of rotating, then was too late once he got back into the play, I was very upset. Votto had him hung out to dry, but Brandon was late getting there, and it was because he was standing doing nothing on the hit to CF. Make the flashy, rangy plays, great, but also get your fundamentals plays right too.

Those two plays, late in a one run game, require better efforts than that. And perhaps it is things like that where you are just a bit sloppy, where the game is decided. I'm not a big "little things" guy, but I am a big "did you do your best?" type of guy. Neither or those things were about ability, but they were about effort, and sometimes that can win/lose a ballgame.

[OldXOhio]

Those two plays, late in a one run game, require better efforts than that. And perhaps it is things like that where you are just a bit sloppy, where the game is decided. I'm not a big "little things" guy, but I am a big "did you do your best?" type of guy. Neither or those things were about ability, but they were about effort, and sometimes that can win/lose a ballgame.

I don't know if that was lack of effort. Seems pretty basic I know, and I'm not sure how a ML player doesn't instinctively rotate, but BP's been caught napping a time or two this season already. Think it's just another case of that.

[traderumor]

I don't know if that was lack of effort. Seems pretty basic I know, and I'm not sure how a ML player doesn't instinctively rotate, but BP's been caught napping a time or two this season already. Think it's just another case of that.I would consider lack of concentration a lack of effort. Effort is not just physical performance, but also staying mentally sharp while on the job. It isn't "being lazy," its failing to stay focused, which requires effort. You stay focused, then you aren't standing there watching the play, you're getting to where you're supposed to be.