7/29/11 - Giants at Reds

[Reds Fanatic]

Reds lineup

Drew Stubbs 8
Fred Lewis 7
Joey Votto 3
Brandon Phillips 4
Jay Bruce 9
Miguel Cairo 5
Ramon Hernandez 2
Paul Janish 6
Dontrelle Willis 1

I just hate that Alonso is brought up to sit. Even Lewis is starting in front of him.

[Matt700wlw]

Dusty, it may be time for you to go.

[reds1869]

Dusty, it may be time for you to go.

Yep. I just don't get the whole Lewis thing. If Dusty is "playing to win" Heisey is better than Lewis even against lefty pitching. Alonso should get his shot against RHP.

[westofyou]

Whoever plays LF will be chasing more balls tonight than any other night this weekend, Heisey also has a sore shoulder.

But of course Dusty needs to be fired because of anything presumed is obviously what's happening.

[Caveat Emperor]

But of course Dusty needs to be fired because of anything presumed is obviously what's happening.

He's doomed, because I actually quite like him as a manager and I'm clearly not allowed to have nice things when it comes to sports teams I follow.

[westofyou]

He's doomed, because I actually quite like him as a manager and I'm clearly not allowed to have nice things when it comes to sports teams I follow.

Why's he doomed?

Walt built the straw man starting staff and told everyone they were young and ready.

Franchises that churn through managers are crap, personally I'm tired of the churning, it's bush.

[Brutus]

Why's he doomed?

Walt built the straw man starting staff and told everyone they were young and ready.

Franchises that churn through managers are crap, personally I'm tired of the churning, it's bush.

Agreed. I think Dusty has his faults, but it's also clear the Reds have some areas that need improved upon.

[klw]

–Baker said Yonder Alonso will get a start in left field.

“At some point,” Baker said. “He’s working (coach Billy Hatcher) in the outfield.”

Alonso started 62 games for Louisville in left, but Baker obviously has concerns doubt Alonso’s defense.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/

[reds1869]

I'm fine with Baker being concerned about defense. But if he were really that concerned there is no way he would trot Fred Lewis out there.

WOY, I agree that manager churn is bad. But that doesn't mean a manager who is clearly making poor decisions should be kept at all costs. Just as I gave him credit when the team won last year, I'm going to give him some flak when they lose. It isn't all his fault but a big portion of it is.

[westofyou]

I'm fine with Baker being concerned about defense. But if he were really that concerned there is no way he would trot Fred Lewis out there.

WOY, I agree that manager churn is bad. But that doesn't mean a manager who is clearly making poor decisions should be kept at all costs. Just as I gave him credit when the team won last year, I'm going to give him some flak when they lose. It isn't all his fault but a big portion of it is.

Sorry you don't fire a guy who won the division last year for being 5 games under .500 at the end of July, it's bush.

As for Lewis over Alonso because defense, he has a LOT more experience than Alonso and if Heisey is still banged up then Lewis is the sane choice if you're thinking defense first.

[reds1869]

Sorry you don't fire a guy who won the division last year for being 5 games under .500 at the end of July, it's bush.

As for Lewis over Alonso because defense, he has a LOT more experience than Alonso and if Heisey is still banged up then Lewis is the sane choice if you're thinking defense first.


At this point in the season I wouldn't fire him as it would be pointless. Come October, however, if this team is well under .500 I wouldn't give his one successful campaign more weight than the three others. That said, I would certainly pull him into the office right now and privately let him know the heat is on and what the organization's expectations for the end of the season are.

[redsfaninbsg]

Great start.

[redsfaninbsg]

Dusty needs to get thrown out just for a spark.

[Red in Chicago]

gee, imagine that...a first inning run already...

[Red in Chicago]

bruce guns down kep at third...i hate kep with a passion

[Patrick Bateman]

Dusty looked pathetic arguing a clearly safe play.

[redsfaninbsg]

I was hoping he'd get ejected so somebody else could manage.

[redsfaninbsg]

That's what I like to see out of Stubbs, first strike he sees let it fly.

[redsfaninbsg]

Bases juiced, nobody out, BP up. Need a big crooked number here.

[Red in Chicago]

why is lewis still on second...for the love of all that's holy

[redsfaninbsg]

Bad fundamentals

[redsfaninbsg]

At least the Lewis screw up didn't cost em a run. 2-1 Redlegs.

[Red in Chicago]

bruce ribbie singling in lewis...

[Buckeye33]

Chris Welsh is an idiot. He makes way to many excuses for these guys. If that ball goes over Rowands head Lewis scores easily no matter what. He should have been 5 feet off the bag then when he sees it's going to be caught it's an easy tag up for him.

[redsfaninbsg]

Tough break there.

[redsfaninbsg]

Reds tagging Vogelsong here in the first.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Dusty looked pathetic arguing a clearly safe play.

I just watched that play...and in my opinion, he was clearly OUT...not safe. Really bad call IMO. Even the Giants announcers thought he was out.

[Tony Cloninger]

Chris Welsh is an idiot. He makes way to many excuses for these guys. If that ball goes over Rowands head Lewis scores easily no matter what. He should have been 5 feet off the bag then when he sees it's going to be caught it's an easy tag up for him.

Kuiper and Kukrow made no excuses for him. Was he arguing with Thom about it?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Kuiper and Kukrow made no excuses for him. Was he arguing with Thom about it?

Basically just saying that is how they teach that play. If you're not sure it's going to be caught or not, you go half way to 3rd. If you're sure it's going to be caught, you tag up. That's all he was saying.

I don't agree with him, but that's what he was saying.

[Brutus]

I heard I'm being pulled from the lineup. I believe I'm going to be traded.

[Patrick Bateman]

I heard I'm being pulled from the lineup. I believe I'm going to be traded.

god, about time! ;)

[_Sir_Charles_]

I heard I'm being pulled from the lineup. I believe I'm going to be traded.

Sweet! We finally got that bag o' balls we've been needing all season! ;)

[_Sir_Charles_]

Janish continues to pump up that OBP...takes one for the team.
Dontrelle singles to right. Janish to 3rd. No outs.
Stubbs grounds into a force out. Dontrelle out at 2nd. Janish scores. Stubbs to first. 3-1 Reds.

[Brutus]

god, about time! ;)

You know you'd miss my middle-of-the-order production lol

[signalhome]

You know you'd miss my middle-of-the-order production lol

Your BABIP just screams regression.

Great move by Walt. Get some value while he still can.

[Brutus]

Your BABIP just screams regression.

Great move by Walt. Get some value while he still can.

Yes I admit I've been quite lucky. Just ask the ladies :D

[Brutus]

Stubbs was trying to run his way home to Houston LOL

[signalhome]

Yes I admit I've been quite lucky. Just ask the ladies :D

Haha, well-played, good sir.

Stubbs Safe? Out? Tough to tell.

[Brutus]

The Reds are really keeping Beltran busy in right tonight

[Kc61]

Umps aren't friendly tonight.

[pahster]

Haha, well-played, good sir.

Stubbs Safe? Out? Tough to tell.

Safe, but very close. Hard to tell in real time.

[signalhome]

Safe, but very close. Hard to tell in real time.

Yeah, definitely looked safe on the replay, but you can't really fault the ump for that one. Very close call.

[signalhome]

Umps aren't friendly tonight.

They haven't had an easy job so far. Two really close plays. It just sucks that both went against the Reds.

[757690]

It seems like umps don't realize how fast Stubbs is, and assume he's going to be out on pitch outs. That's the third pitch out that I've seen Stubbs beat, in which he was called out.

[Kc61]

They haven't had an easy job so far. Two really close plays. It just sucks that both went against the Reds.

Just what the Reds need, unlucky calls.

[signalhome]

Just what the Reds need, unlucky calls.

Ain't it the truth. Story of the year.

[Brutus]

I have no rational reason to believe this, but I have a gut feeling the Reds are going to go on a torrid streak.

After the Mets' series, I don't have the slightest clue why I think that. Just a hunch.

[Tony Cloninger]

I have no rational reason to believe this, but I have a gut feeling the Reds are going to go on a torrid streak.

After the Mets' series, I don't have the slightest clue why I think that. Just a hunch.

Are you sure you just don't have the flu?

[Patrick Bateman]

I have no rational reason to believe this, but I have a gut feeling the Reds are going to go on a torrid streak.

After the Mets' series, I don't have the slightest clue why I think that. Just a hunch.

I thought the same thing.

Maybe just enough to make the rest of the season semi-interesting.

[Brutus]

Are you sure you just don't have the flu?

I can rule out no such diagnosis at this point in time.

[Brutus]

I thought the same thing.

Maybe just enough to make the rest of the season semi-interesting.

I think the pressure is off now. There was so much frustration, I tend to believe now it's just kind of 'let's roll.'

[signalhome]

I have no rational reason to believe this, but I have a gut feeling the Reds are going to go on a torrid streak.

After the Mets' series, I don't have the slightest clue why I think that. Just a hunch.

I think they certainly have the talent to do so, even in spite of this awful run.

If they can put together a really good run, they really would be right back in this thing. I feel so naive for still hoping, but I can't help myself.

[Tony Cloninger]

I think the pressure is off now. There was so much frustration, I tend to believe now it's just kind of 'let's roll.'

All we need is Cordero putting Baker in a chokehold and we are set for a 10 game winning streak.

[Brutus]

I think they certainly have the talent to do so, even in spite of this awful run.

If they can put together a really good run, they really would be right back in this thing. I feel so naive for still hoping, but I can't help myself.

It helps that the Reds still have six games against the Brewers. Go 4-2 and that gets it back in striking distance.

[redsfaninbsg]

It's amazing how much faith some of you all have. I wish I had it, I'm scared to death they'll blow this game. The Reds would have to go on some crazy 16-4 run over the next 20 for me to get back involved emotionally.

[Brutus]

Jon Heyman tweeted this, for those interested:


#astros price tag on bourn to #reds said wildly high. Cincy not playing on pence, whose price is even steeper.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I have no rational reason to believe this, but I have a gut feeling the Reds are going to go on a torrid streak.

After the Mets' series, I don't have the slightest clue why I think that. Just a hunch.

I'm thinking the same thing. And the Cairo comments will be the launching point.

[redsfaninbsg]

It might be time to make the Skyline Chili call to the bullpen.

[redsfaninbsg]

Two run game, sixth inning, Willis has loaded the bases with nobody out. Dusty showing confidence in the lefty here, leaving him in.

[redsfaninbsg]

I'll say this Dusty is due for one of these moves to work.

[_Sir_Charles_]

3-2 Reds after the Huff sac fly to center.

[redsfaninbsg]

Another fine outing from Dontrelle.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Pirates losing 8-0 to the Phillies (6th)
Cards losing 1-0 to the Cubs (2nd)
Astros & Brewers scoreless (4th)

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice job by Willis to get out of that only allowing 1 run. 3-2 Reds after 5 1/2

[Brutus]

Nice job by Willis to get out of that only allowing 1 run. 3-2 Reds after 5 1/2

That felt like a Houdini trick to get out of that only giving up a run. I thought for certain it was going to be disaster.

[nate]

Late inning chat is open!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Up to this point, I've been impressed by Willis. Considering what a disaster he's been the past few years, he's got to be on cloud 9 for him to be throwing well again. It probably feels like it's been forever for him.

[Tony Cloninger]

Offense of course..... scores it's 3....sees that the opposition has only scored 1 and takes the rest of the night off.

If the Giants had scored about 4-5 that inning....then the Offense would wake up again and score a few more to make it close.

The 2011 Reds... We were always almost this close.

[redsfaninbsg]

Put me in the camp wanting a PH.

[redsfaninbsg]

Let me rephrase, I'm ok with him hitting but he can't pitch anymore.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Let me rephrase, I'm ok with him hitting but he can't pitch anymore.

LOL. I was about to say the same thing. Dontrelle can swing that stick.

[Tom Servo]

Masset? Dear god no.

[Brutus]

Let me rephrase, I'm ok with him hitting but he can't pitch anymore.

Agreed. I trust him up at the plate as much as anyone the Reds could send in as a pinch-hitter, but I think it's probably a good idea to put someone else in to pitch.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Masset? Dear god no.

Gotta get him back on the horse.

[Tom Servo]

Gotta get him back on the horse.
But I want to win a game. :(

[_Sir_Charles_]

But I want to win a game. :(

Same here. And for the Reds to be a good team...they DO need Nick. You can't just stop showing faith in the guy because he has a couple of sub-par outings.

[kaldaniels]

Up to this point, I've been impressed by Willis. Considering what a disaster he's been the past few years, he's got to be on cloud 9 for him to be throwing well again. It probably feels like it's been forever for him.

I'm not saying do it now, but I'm always thinking in the "what would it take" mindset.

What would it take tonight, to keep Dontrelle here for 2 more years? 7-8 million?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Probably less. I'd almost put money on the fact that Willis is thrilled with the Reds FO for giving him another opportunity.

[redsfaninbsg]

Buddy in PA just said the Phils are getting Pence. For all I know it's widespread knowledge I've not got off the game thread.

[kaldaniels]

Probably less. I'd almost put money on the fact that Willis is thrilled with the Reds FO for giving him another opportunity.

I just think the Reds need to monitor him very carefully from here on out this season, and if the risk/reward of a contract would ever tilt in the Reds' favor, be ready to pounce on it.

[Tony Cloninger]

Buddy in PA just said the Phils are getting Pence. For all I know it's widespread knowledge I've not got off the game thread.


They were saying it would take A LOT to get him....exactly what do the Phillies have that the Reds do not? Besides cajones?

[Brutus]

Buddy in PA just said the Phils are getting Pence. For all I know it's widespread knowledge I've not got off the game thread.

That news was so 5 minutes ago :D

lol

[kaldaniels]

They were saying it would take A LOT to get him....exactly what do the Phillies have that the Reds do not? Besides cajones?

Singleton and Cosart and 2 other minor prospects are what MLBTR is saying the Phillies are giving up.

[_Sir_Charles_]

They were saying it would take A LOT to get him....exactly what do the Phillies have that the Reds do not? Besides cajones?

A five game lead in the standings? :O)

[redsfaninbsg]

At least Pence is out of the division.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bray coming in to face Beltran with the tying run on 2nd with 2 outs.

[kaldaniels]

At least Pence is out of the division.

So how bad is Houston gonna be now?

[redsfaninbsg]

So how bad is Houston gonna be now?

I'll let you know Wednesday night.

[Gallen5862]

What Inning is it? How did Willis look?

[VR]

So how bad is Houston gonna be now?

"We can finish in last place without you"

[_Sir_Charles_]

So how bad is Houston gonna be now?

They're moving to AA ball. If nothing else, it'll improve their farm system. :p

[Tom Servo]

got heeeem

[_Sir_Charles_]

What Inning is it? How did Willis look?

He looked very solid. He had a couple of shaky innings, but kept his cool and got out of them mostly.

3-2 Reds after 6 1/2

[VR]

Bray putting together a solid season

[kaldaniels]

I'm suprised Country Kepp has hung around this long in the bigs...I thought he would just fizzle out. Good for him.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Bray putting together a solid season

Best reliever on the club this season IMO (LeCure is a strong 2nd). I'd REALLY like to see him moved OUT of the loogy role. He can do more.

[kaldaniels]

Who's coming out in the 8th, Chap or Logan?

[_Sir_Charles_]

I'm in a bit of a bind. I want to relay some info, but I also don't want to jinx a Reds player.

Oh screw it. I'll just say it. This just in...Stubbs has NOT struck out tonight. I know...shocking, isn't it. :O)

[Brutus]

I'm in a bit of a bind. I want to relay some info, but I also don't want to jinx a Reds player.

Oh screw it. I'll just say it. This just in...Stubbs has NOT struck out tonight. I know...shocking, isn't it. :O)

Even God took a day off.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Even God took a day off.

Hmmm...what are you implying here?!?

[kaldaniels]

Pence was removed from the game and was hugging teammates in the dugout, for this one night only my heart goes out to the Astro fans watching that.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Pirates now down 10-0 to the Phillies.
Brewers up 2-0 on the Astros
Cards up 3-1 on the Cubs

[Reds Fanatic]

Lewis with his 3rd hit of the night.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Pence was removed from the game and was hugging teammates in the dugout, for this one night only my heart goes out to the Astro fans watching that.

Marty just commented on this too. Saying it's called a "blockbuster trade".

[Kc61]

Fred Lewis with three hits tonight. Has played pretty well lately. A good reserve outfielder.

Sorry I know Redszone hates him.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Votto flies out to the wall. He's really been looking to go oppo lately. He needs to teach that to Jay.

[redsfaninbsg]

How long before Houston makes the playoffs again?

[_Sir_Charles_]

How long before Houston makes the playoffs again?

I'm hoping for a Cubs-like streak. :O)

[_Sir_Charles_]

Brandon grounds out to end the 7th. 3-2 Reds it remains.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Color me surprised. Bray back out for the 8th...and nobody warming up. Nice.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Heisey in for Lewis in left.

[Red in Chicago]

Color me surprised. Bray back out for the 8th...and nobody warming up. Nice.

I'm surprised to but like it.

[corkedbat]

Bray's out there for a send inning AND ITS THE 8TH INNING!!!! OMG CHAPMAN HAS BEEN DEALT! IS JUST KNOW IT!!!!! :scared:

[_Sir_Charles_]

Now Billy just has to pitch well. Walk to Ross.

[Red in Chicago]

What a scoop by pj

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice play by Janish! Crummy throw from Ramon, but they get the lead runner. 2 down.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice play by Janish on a short hop throw from Ramon on a bunt

[Reds Fanatic]

There goes the lead. Whiteside 2 out double to tie the game.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Crud. Double to tie the game. Eli Whiteside...really?

[Tom Servo]

Eli frickin Whiteside. C'mon man.

[redsfaninbsg]

0-2 is the worst count of the year for the Reds.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Oh well. So much for the moving Bray out of the loogy role.

[Kc61]

0-2 is the worst count of the year for the Reds.

Terrible pitch.

[Red in Chicago]

Giants en route to another 1 run victory. :(

[Patrick Bateman]

I must have dropped the f bomb about 15 times after Whiteside did thar.
I still care.
Does anyone else??

[redsfaninbsg]

I must have dropped the f bomb about 15 times after Whiteside did thar.
I still care.
Does anyone else??

Nah, I'm immune now. I expect these things.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I must have dropped the f bomb about 15 times after Whiteside did thar.
I still care.
Does anyone else??

Same here...except I used a kid friendly version of that. :O)

Strikeout to end the inning. One batter too late of course. :(

[corkedbat]

Dusty actually managed to look surprised there. It had to be an act, he couldn't have actually not seen that coming could he?

[Kc61]

Giants en route to another 1 run victory. :(

Probably.

Reds video this year will be called Ninety Ways To Lose Ballgames.

[redsfaninbsg]

This one aint on Dusty, that's just piss poor execution.

[kaldaniels]

I must have dropped the f bomb about 15 times after Whiteside did thar.
I still care.
Does anyone else??

I care. The Reds have a 5 percent chance of making the playoffs last I saw. The one thing that gives me a glimmer of hope is looking at the August schedule. I don't expect it, but a good run is possible.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I'm calling it now. Walk off by Yonder.

[signalhome]

I must have dropped the f bomb about 15 times after Whiteside did thar.
I still care.
Does anyone else??

Same on all fronts.

[Kc61]

This one aint on Dusty, that's just piss poor execution.

Reds have a short bullpen tonight. Dusty wants to rest guys. He was correct to let Bray pitch an inning plus.

If this game goes extras Reds will have a problem.

[redsfaninbsg]

Reds have a short bullpen tonight. Dusty wants to rest guys. He was correct to let Bray pitch an inning plus.

If this game goes extras Reds will have a problem.

Agreed, 100%.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Bruce K's. Ahead 3-1 too.

[redsfaninbsg]

Pretty embarrassing ab by Bruce.

[Kc61]

That's why Bruce is not untouchable.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Francisco warming.

[Tony Cloninger]

Pretty embarrassing ab by Bruce.

That fastball was right there.....yet he looked like he was so far off the plate that he was lunging at it?

[Brutus]

I must have dropped the f bomb about 15 times after Whiteside did thar.
I still care.
Does anyone else??

I managed to bite my tongue, though it was not easy.

[Kc61]

Reds bullpen has not done the job of late.

Giants pen is nasty.

[Hollcat]

Two 90 mph fastballs down the middle and Bruce can't touch them

[Brutus]

It would be weird for Ramon if he's traded to the Giants and just switches dugouts in Cincinnati lol

[kaldaniels]

Two 90 mph fastballs down the middle and Bruce can't touch them

I don't know how correct he was but Welsh really broke down Bruce's swing and showed the problem.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Janish, PH, Stubbs due up in the 9th. I'm telling you. Yonder walkoff.

[Kc61]

Nothing across for the Reds.

Just awful, this team can't hold a lead, can't win a game.

[Brutus]

Janish, PH, Stubbs due up in the 9th. I'm telling you. Yonder walkoff.

Duly noted. Hope Miss Cleo taught you well.

[Hollcat]

Tied heading to the 9th between the best 1-run and worse 1-run teams in MLB. Wonder how this will turn out.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Duly noted. Hope Miss Cleo taught you well.

Nah. Magic 8 ball. I'm old school.

[Tony Cloninger]

I don't know how correct he was but Welsh really broke down Bruce's swing and showed the problem.

And the conclusion was?

[kaldaniels]

Janish, PH, Stubbs due up in the 9th. I'm telling you. Yonder walkoff.

Possibly, but YA only has 36 professional HRs. I'll take a double.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Cordero in btw....Hanigan too.

[kaldaniels]

And the conclusion was?

Back elbow pointed up as leg plants. Has to start swing early to catch up to fastball.

[Kc61]

Coco in. May have to work multiple innings if game continues.

Lol Thom discussing the other scores as if Reds were in the race.

[signalhome]

Just looked it up, and Sergio Romo has the second-best wFB/C in all of baseball this year (among pitchers with at least 20 IP), behind only Mariano Rivera. Neither throws the ball particularly hard, with Romo averaging 89.5 and Rivera clocking in at 91.9. I just found it a bit odd that the two most effective fastballs in baseball so far this year were of such a low velocity.

Back to the CoCo Show.

[_Sir_Charles_]

What's wFB/C ?

[Tony Cloninger]

Back elbow pointed up as leg plants. Has to start swing early to catch up to fastball.

Call Jose Bautista and ask him what he did. I am sure they are all working on it.....but it hardly ever sticks in games does it?

[_Sir_Charles_]

2 down after the Torres K.

[Red in Chicago]

What's wFB/C ?

Facebook divided by something:lol:

[_Sir_Charles_]

Facebook divided by something:lol:

I'm never gonna understand this new math. *sigh*

[_Sir_Charles_]

Cordero goes 1-2-3. Nice. Alright...let's finish this baby!

[Kc61]

Easy inning for Coco.

[signalhome]

What's wFB/C ?

Amount of runs that pitcher has saved with that certain pitch (in this case, fastball) per 100 pitches.

However, wFB/C has limited predictive value, and is just helpful in telling you what has already transpired. Descriptive statistic, not predictive. Didn't know that last little bit until thirty seconds ago. Learn something every day.

[Hollcat]

I was thinking a new college football postseason scenario

[kaldaniels]

Call Jose Bautista and ask him what he did. I am sure they are all working on it.....but it hardly ever sticks in games does it?

I don't even know how correct Welsh was. But it was kinda scathing compared to the normal sugarcoating we get.

"Do you green light Bruce here?"

Welsh - "ABSOLUTELY"

[Hollcat]

Made lots of sense to me

[_Sir_Charles_]

Amount of runs that pitcher has saved with that certain pitch (in this case, fastball) per 100 pitches.

LOL. Really? I see the FB is for FastBall. But what the heck is the w/ and c for? Sometimes I think they come up with these stat names just to screw with people. RC+, OPS, OPS+, ERA+, WHIP, Rrep, Rdef, WAR, RAR, OMGICTAM. (last one was "oh my god I can't take any more"...in case you were wondering)

[kaldaniels]

Yonda!

1B

[_Sir_Charles_]

Single for Yonder. He's gonna steal his way to home to walk it off. No?

[Kc61]

Alonso singles. Nice hit. Liner to right.

Would Bruce have hit that?

[Tom Servo]

yooooonder

[Red in Chicago]

LOL. Really? I see the FB is for FastBall. But what the heck is the w/ and c for? Sometimes I think they come up with these stat names just to screw with people. RC+, OPS, OPS+, ERA+, WHIP, Rrep, Rdef, WAR, RAR, OMGICTAM. (last one was "oh my god I can't take any more"...in case you were wondering)

C = 100

[Tom Servo]

fail.

[kaldaniels]

ER in to pinch run? Send Arroyo out before him.

[_Sir_Charles_]

*sigh* Tapper in front of the dish and it bounces over and hits Hanny. He's out. Can't catch a break.

[Hollcat]

Only the reds

[Kc61]

Unreal.

I hate the bunt there and Hanigan muffed it.

[Hollcat]

I predict k in 4 pitches

[signalhome]

LOL. Really? I see the FB is for FastBall. But what the heck is the w/ and c for? Sometimes I think they come up with these stat names just to screw with people. RC+, OPS, OPS+, ERA+, WHIP, Rrep, Rdef, WAR, RAR, OMGICTAM. (last one was "oh my god I can't take any more"...in case you were wondering)

The w means it's a linear weight, like in wOBA (weighted on-base average) and the C represents century, for 100 pitches.

And yes, it is definitely a hassle to keep up with all these stats. I'll give you that.

[_Sir_Charles_]

C = 100

D'oh. :laugh: It was so obvious.

[Kc61]

Why take the bat out of Hanigan's hands and give away an out?

Stubbs now behind in the count.

[Kc61]

Wild pitch.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Wild pitch moves Renteria to 2nd.

[kaldaniels]

I hate when the catcher goes out to the mound vs. the Reds' young hitters. They are usually meat after that.

[signalhome]

I hate when the catcher goes out to the mound vs. the Reds' young hitters. They are usually meat after that.

Good call.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Stubbs....yep.

[redsfaninbsg]

I hate when the catcher goes out to the mound vs. the Reds' young hitters. They are usually meat after that.

It's so predictable isn't it?

[Hollcat]

It's almost automatic

[LoganBuck]

Notice that Thom didn't say a thing, from the time Stubbs batted until Heisey stepped in.

[Kc61]

Make some trades already, this group doesn't have it.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Crud. Pop out to end the inning. Heading to extras...when we're short staffed in the pen. Our run of luck continues. :O)

I'm out guys. Gotta get the kids ready for bed.

[Red in Chicago]

This can only end ugly. :lol:

[Kc61]

This can only end ugly. :lol:

Well, Votto is coming up. There's that.

[fisch11]

Giants are 10-5 in EI, Reds are 6-4. Giants lead MLB in 1 run games, Reds are last. Reds bullpen is shorthanded. Granted they are at home and should have the advantage in extra innings, this is not shaping up well.

[redsfaninbsg]

I dread CoCo for a second inning, although I understand why it's being done.

[Red in Chicago]

The annoying panda is now six for six against coco

[VR]

Reds strike out on pitches down broadway. Opponent get two out hits and lasers off their shoetops.

About a two month trend now.

[Kc61]

My guess is Arredondo would be next. Reds need to win it in the tenth.

Oh, no, Votto mishandles one.

[Kc61]

Wild pitch. Two on two out.

[Red in Chicago]

Really. My oh my.

[redsfaninbsg]

U-G-L-Y, all on CoCo now.

[Kc61]

Full count. Whiteside walks. Sacks full.

[VR]

Why does my calendar say 2011, and yet it's looking like 2002-2009 brand of Reds baseball?

[redsfaninbsg]

I'd use Chapman here

[Hollcat]

Why do I keep watching?

[redsfaninbsg]

Impressive.

[Kc61]

Fontenot a lefty.

Three straight strikes. Out.

[kaldaniels]

Unbuckle your safety belts, the Coco ride is over. Come back soon!

[757690]

Anyone still think the Reds don't need bullpen help?

[Red in Chicago]

Good thing I didnt bet on the outcome of that at bat.

[Brutus]

That was some turbulence.

[Kc61]

I'd use Chapman here

Dusty said no Chapman tonight.

[BCubb2003]

The Reds are probably nearing a trade for Aaron Harang to finish the game.

[Tony Cloninger]

It is getting annoying, disgusting, sad to watch.

I am now watching the Under 20 World Cup.... Brazil vs Egypt.. 1-1 before the half, tons of action. mOre than the Reds offense since the 3rd by far.

That's right... the Under 20 WC.. futbol....soccer....In Spanish.

[Kc61]

Coco can still pitch with decent rest.

Too bad he messed up that Brewers series.

[Red in Chicago]

This guys got some side arm throw

[Hollcat]

It is getting annoying, disgusting, sad to watch.

I am now watching the Under 20 World Cup.... Brazil vs Egypt.. 1-1 before the half, tons of action. mOre than the Reds offense since the 3rd by far.

That's right... the Under 20 WC.. futbol....soccer....In Spanish.

What channel?

[Kc61]

Loogy pitching to Votto. Lopez.

Has good stuff. Tough on lefties.

Joey falls behind.

Now 2-2.

Now 3-2.

Walk. Great at bat.

[Red in Chicago]

Nice ab by votto

[kaldaniels]

Nice AB. Tough lefty on the mound.

[Brutus]

When Votto works a plate appearance more than 5-6 pitches, he almost always gets on base.

[CrackerJack]

Votto's body language looks like a guy who is just completely disgusted and tired of these types of games...

[Kc61]

Phillips up. No bunt. No DP.

[redsfaninbsg]

Chapman warming up.

[Kc61]

Chapman warming up.

Guess Dusty changed his mind on Chapman.

[Tony Cloninger]

What channel?

397 Galavision...... I am out here in LA though, so I do not know where it would be in the Midwest. ESPN3 also has it..... as well.

[Red in Chicago]

Come on datdude

[Kc61]

Phillips singles Votto to third.

[kaldaniels]

Gonna be a tough AB for Jay.

[Red in Chicago]

First and third nobody out. Can we score.

[Kc61]

Gonna be a tough AB for Jay.

Should Gomes hit against the lefty?

[Brutus]

Bruce only needs to get one in the air medium or deep. Unfortunately I'm not confident of his contact here...

[Red in Chicago]

I'm predicting a wild pitch

[signalhome]

Gonna be a tough AB for Jay.

Yep. Bracing for the worst here.

[kaldaniels]

Should Gomes hit against the lefty?

:lol:

[Tony Cloninger]

Is Andy Kosco available to PH?

[redsfaninbsg]

If he K's they'll walk Cairo and then CoCo is up, who is left to PH?

[OldXOhio]

Leake?

[Kc61]

2-2 on Bruce.

Pops out to short left. Good idea just not enough distance.

[kaldaniels]

Would Votto have had a shot there?

[_Sir_Charles_]

If he K's they'll walk Cairo and then CoCo is up, who is left to PH?

Frazier

[Brutus]

Bruce just doesn't hit it hard going the other way. Never has.

[redsfaninbsg]

If I were SF, I'd rather face Frazier than Cairo.

[Kc61]

Would Votto have had a shot there?

No. Right call to hold him.

Outfield was playing shallow or ball might have dropped in.

[OldXOhio]

Frazier

Ahh yes. That has game winner written all over it.

[VR]

If I were SF, I'd rather face Frazier than Cairo.

After Votto, he's the guy you want up there in the clutch. Sadly.

[signalhome]

Bruce just doesn't hit it hard going the other way. Never has.

Can the Reds bring in Bautista to teach Bruce how to effectively pull pitches from any part of the plate? He seems to be doing a great job at it.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Mota in.

[VR]

Mota in.

He must be 80 by now.