8/7/11 - Reds at Baby Bears

[Tom Servo]

Dave Sappelt lf
Edgar Renteria ss
Joey Votto 1b
Jay Bruce rf
Todd Frazier 3b
Drew Stubbs cf
Ryan Hanigan c
Paul Janish 2b
Bronson Arroyo p

[reds1869]

Glad to see Sappelt getting the nod! Janish at 2B is a bit of an odd response to Brandon's injury.

[Kc61]

Glad to see Sappelt getting the nod! Janish at 2B is a bit of an odd response to Brandon's injury.

Cairo is hurt. Tommy Helms was traded.

[WVRedsFan]

Looks like another 2 run day.

[mth123]

Glad to see Sappelt in the line-up, but hate that its at Yonder's expense. Drew Stubbs is the guy who should sit. Time to find out if Alonso can pass in left, Sappelt can play center and how both hit. We already know that Stubbs is a superior defender who hits like Jonny Gomes when Gomes is in a slump. Keep him on the bench and the Ks out of the record books.

[Always Red]

Glad to see Sappelt in the line-up, but hate that its at Yonder's expense. Drew Stubbs is the guy who should sit. Time to find out if Alonso can pass in left, Sappelt can play center and how both hit. We already know that Stubbs is a superior defender who hits like Jonny Gomes when Gomes is in a slump. Keep him on the bench and the Ks out of the record books.

I think Alonso's hurt. He was gimping around the bases after his HR yesterday.

[mth123]

Not sure what is worse. Todd Frazier hitting fifth or the fact that he's probably the best guy in the line-up to do it. 6 thru 9 looks pretty easy for a pitcher to pitch to today.

[traderumor]

Stubbs where he should be penciled in until further notice. Perfect place for his skill set.

[mth123]

Stubbs where he should be penciled in until further notice. Perfect place for his skill set.

Against RHP, Stubbs should sit. .230/.303/.352/.655 in 402 PAs with 122 Ks. If Yonder is hurt, I'd play Lewis in LF and at least get a look at Sappelt in CF. Stubbs is accumulating too many Ks. Each K erodes his value that much more. He shouldn't see many more RHP in 2011.

That is saying a lot because I don't see much need to play Lewis anymore, but if Yonder is hurt, its the best idea IMO.

[Ron Madden]

I hope the Cubs don't beat on Bronson Arroyo like a drum today.

[Tom Servo]

The more I watch him and now see the interviews with him, the more I get emotionally attached to Alonso and don't want to see him go anywhere. :nono:

[mth123]

The more I watch him and now see the interviews with him, the more I get emotionally attached to Alonso and don't want to see him go anywhere. :nono:

Maybe the NL will adopt the DH with the new CBA. Right now its the only way I could justify keeping him.

[RollyInRaleigh]

Cairo is hurt. Tommy Helms was traded.:laugh:

[Tom Servo]

Sappelt lines out to center on the first pitch.

[Reds Fanatic]

Sappelt hit it hard and lines out to center.

[Reds Fanatic]

Renteria grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

[Ron Madden]

The Reds are gonna win this game.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto flies out to left. 0-0 mid 1st.

[Tom Servo]

Do I even dare to watch Arroyo pitch?

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice catch by Bruce on the track.

[Reds Fanatic]

Campana strikes out looking. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ramirez flies out to center on the first pitch. 0-0 after 1.

[REDSEER]

Welsh must read RZ. Just was discussing Arroyo's .239 BABIP last year and regression to the norm.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce flies out to left on the first pitch.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier flies out to the track in right. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Stubbs homers to right center! 1-0 Reds.

[Ron Madden]

Both teams are going up there hacking today.

HR Drew Stubbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[traderumor]

Against RHP, Stubbs should sit. .230/.303/.352/.655 in 402 PAs with 122 Ks. If Yonder is hurt, I'd play Lewis in LF and at least get a look at Sappelt in CF. Stubbs is accumulating too many Ks. Each K erodes his value that much more. He shouldn't see many more RHP in 2011.

That is saying a lot because I don't see much need to play Lewis anymore, but if Yonder is hurt, its the best idea IMO.;)

[mth123]

Never fails when I crack on a guy he does well. I have to be more negative. Well done Drew.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hanigan lines a single to left.

[Matt700wlw]

Stubbs just assured himself the leadoff spot for the rest of the year...

:p

[Reds Fanatic]

4 pitch walk to Janish. 1st and 2nd.

[CTA513]

Wells scared of Janish decides to pitch around him.

[mth123]

See, I told you guys 6-9 was a bunch of auto outs.

[traderumor]

Never fails when I crack on a guy he does well. I have to be more negative. Well done Drew.If Stubbs is going to sit against RHers, then the Reds better try to get what they can out of him now because he isn't going to be much good with his skill set playing a couple of times a week. We don't face a whole lot of southpaws.

[Reds Fanatic]

Arroyo fouls out to 1st. 1-0 Reds mid 2nd.

[traderumor]

See, I told you guys 6-9 was a bunch of auto outs.
It seems to happen when a lineup looks anemic. I still remember a game against the Cubs when Juan Castro was still on the team that was half bench players when our bench was weak. They came out and blitzed the Cubs that day.

[Reds Fanatic]

Pena flies out to center. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Byrd bloop hit to left.

[Ron Madden]

Kevin Costner at the game today.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bloop hit to center by DeWitt. 1st and 2nd.

[_Sir_Charles_]

"I don't know if I've ever seen Stubbs leave his feet" ~ Marty
"it looked very catchable" ~ Fay

[Reds Fanatic]

Soto flies out to left. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Colvin walks. Bases loaded.

[Ron Madden]

"I don't know if I've ever seen Stubbs leave his feet" ~ Marty
"it looked very catchable" ~ Fay

Stubbs was playing deep he came in a long way for that ball, if he dives for it and it gets past him Marty would rip him for that too. :(

[_Sir_Charles_]

Stubbs was playing deep he came in a long way for that ball, if he dives for it and it gets past him Marty would rip him for that too. :(

Yep. I agree. Just thought it was strange for them to rip him for not diving there.

[Reds Fanatic]

Wells strikes out swinging. 1-0 Reds after 2.

[mth123]

If Stubbs is going to sit against RHers, then the Reds better try to get what they can out of him now because he isn't going to be much good with his skill set playing a couple of times a week. We don't face a whole lot of southpaws.

I think Stubbs should top the list of guys to deal. The Reds are overloaded with guys who can hit 6th or 7th. Stubbs has a .939 OPS vs. Lefty pitching this year and with his speed and defense it would make him a good bench player, but as a first round pick with lots of potential, I think the Reds could do better by dealing him. They need to open some spots for guys who can do something besides hit 6th or 7th. I'd make CF and lead-off Sappelt's job to lose and keep Heisey aroud as a bench player and fall back if Sappelt falters.

Hopefully Stubbs could be a major piece in a deal for an arm or a clean-up bat.

[Reds Fanatic]

Sappelt grounds out to short.

[Reds Fanatic]

Renteria lines out to right. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto grounds out to 3rd. 1-0 Reds mid 3rd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Castro homers to center. Tie game 1-1.

[CTA513]

HR #31 for Arroyo

Maybe he should hit 4th?

[Kc61]

What if

Stubbs was vying for the home run record and Arroyo the strikeout record?

[redsmetz]

Goodness, would someone explain to Jeff Brantley that he broadcasts for the Reds. I don't want a blind homer calling a game, but there should be a difference in his inflection when calling a home run for the other team or for their pitcher striking our batter out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Campana grounds out to short.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Goodness, would someone explain to Jeff Brantley that he broadcasts for the Reds. I don't want a blind homer calling a game, but there should be a difference in his inflection when calling a home run for the other team or for their pitcher striking our batter out.

He's ALWAYS done that...annoys the heck out of me.

"SWING and a miss" I get excited and then realize it was Votto striking out or something. *rolls eyes*

[Reds Fanatic]

Ramirez files out to the wall in left. 2 outs.

[traderumor]

I think Stubbs should top the list of guys to deal. The Reds are overloaded with guys who can hit 6th or 7th. Stubbs has a .939 OPS vs. Lefty pitching this year and with his speed and defense it would make him a good bench player, but as a first round pick with lots of potential, I think the Reds could do better by dealing him. They need to open some spots for guys who can do something besides hit 6th or 7th. I'd make CF and lead-off Sappelt's job to lose and keep Heisey aroud as a bench player and fall back if Sappelt falters.

Hopefully Stubbs could be a major piece in a deal for an arm or a clean-up bat.Sappelt has to do something at the major league level before we go trading another young CFer and handing him the job.

[mth123]

Sappelt has to do something at the major league level before we go trading another young CFer and handing him the job.

They aren't going to win unless they bring in an arm and if Alonso can't cut it in the OF a middle of the order bat. Who else should they trade? Somebody at a position where there isn't a guy on the cusp? Sappelt and whoever they could get for Stubbs > than Stubbs and no deal.

[Reds Fanatic]

Pena walks

[Reds Fanatic]

Wow. Stubbs somehow dropped what should have been an easy fly out. 2-1 Cubs.

[CTA513]

The Reds have turned into the Cubs

[Ron Madden]

Wow. Stubbs somehow dropped what should have been an easy fly out. 2-1 Cubs.

Looks like he lost it in the sun at the last moment.

[Reds Fanatic]

Byrd grounds out to 1st. 2-1 Cubs after 3.

[traderumor]

I think it was a call from the gang at Buffalo Wild Wings, who messaged a groundskeeper to reflect the sun off a mirror right into Stubbs' eyes.

[redsmetz]

He's ALWAYS done that...annoys the heck out of me.

"SWING and a miss" I get excited and then realize it was Votto striking out or something. *rolls eyes*

Exactly.

[REDSEER]

Looks like he lost it in the sun at the last moment.

Definitely. Don't know why he didn't communicate with Sappelt, who was right there, and let him know he's having trouble. Maybe both of them were having trouble, but often times the LF has a better angle away from the sun on a play like that.

[traderumor]

The Reds have turned into the CubsNah, just playing like them right now.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce lines a single to left.

[_Sir_Charles_]

:jump: FRAZIER! 3-2 Reds!

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier homers to left! 3-2 Reds

[mth123]

Frazier woo hoo.

[Ron Madden]

Todd Frazier HR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Reds Fanatic]

Stubbs singles to left.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Definitely. Don't know why he didn't communicate with Sappelt, who was right there, and let him know he's having trouble. Maybe both of them were having trouble, but often times the LF has a better angle away from the sun on a play like that.

He lost it late. No time to call for help really.

[mth123]

Another Stubbs hit. Bump that trade value.

[Reds Fanatic]

Stubbs steals 2nd. His 28th steal of the year.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Another Stubbs hit. Bump that trade value.

Aren't we looking for a RHH to hit cleanup? I've never heard anybody mention Drew for that slot. He's got the power.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hanigan grounds out to short on a good play by Castro. Subbs to 3rd. 1 out.

[mth123]

Aren't we looking for a RHH to hit cleanup? I've never heard anybody mention Drew for that slot. He's got the power.

His .383 slugging percentage says otherwise.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Fantastic play by the Reds shortstop! Oh...wait. It was a cubs shortstop. DAMN YOU BRANTLEY! :O)

[Reds Fanatic]

Wild pitch scores a run. 4-2 Reds.

[Kc61]

Aren't we looking for a RHH to hit cleanup? I've never heard anybody mention Drew for that slot. He's got the power.

Stubbs is hitting around 235 against RHP. Cleanup?

[nate]

Chat is open!

[JaxRed]

Maybe it's Frazier

[Reds Fanatic]

Janish grounds out to short. 2 outs.

[_Sir_Charles_]

His .383 slugging percentage says otherwise.

I know that, but you've also got to remember that he's trying to fit himself into that leadoff hitter role too. That square peg doesn't fit into that round hole. Once you take off that mentality...who knows WHAT he'll do. I do know that he's always hit much better lower in the order.

Just tossing the idea out there.

And remember...we were using Rolen there for much of the year. Check out HIS numbers.

[Reds Fanatic]

Arroyo flies out to left. 4-2 Reds mid 4th.

[redsmetz]

Fantastic play by the Reds shortstop! Oh...wait. It was a cubs shortstop. DAMN YOU BRANTLEY! :O)

He finished with "great play by" the Cubs shortstop, which I don't have a beef with. Oh well, no more ranting for me. Let's keep getting runs and win this thing.

[Kc61]

I know that, but you've also got to remember that he's trying to fit himself into that leadoff hitter role too. That square peg doesn't fit into that round hole. Once you take off that mentality...who knows WHAT he'll do. I do know that he's always hit much better lower in the order.

Just tossing the idea out there.

And remember...we were using Rolen there for much of the year. Check out HIS numbers.

Comparing Stubbs to Rolen doesn't work. Rolen lifetime is a true middle of the order hitter. When he slid this year Dusty dropped him to sixth. Stubbs against RHP is an out machine.

Stubbs cleanup is a future aspiration. Right now he is a sixth or seventh place hitter, at least against righties.

[Reds Fanatic]

What a catch by Sappelt!

[Tom Servo]

Sappelt! WOW!

[CTA513]

Sappelt takes a double away from Soto

[_Sir_Charles_]

W
O
W

Dave's got glove!

[Ron Madden]

WOW!!!!!!!! What a catch by Sappelt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nate]

Wow, Sappelt!

[mth123]

I know that, but you've also got to remember that he's trying to fit himself into that leadoff hitter role too. That square peg doesn't fit into that round hole. Once you take off that mentality...who knows WHAT he'll do. I do know that he's always hit much better lower in the order.

Just tossing the idea out there.

I get it. I like Stubbs oK, but the Reds need another bat in the middle and somebody at the top. Not everybody can hit 6th or 7th. Cozart is strictly an 8 hole guy IMO. Phillips should hit 6th but he's acceptable 2nd. Rolen should hit 7th. The Catchers probably won't hit up in the order. Even in AAA Mesoraco has been hitting 6th. So if Votto and Bruce fill two thirds of the middle and Phillips hits second, then they need LF and CF to hit 1st and 4th. I don't think Stubbs fits in either spot. With Sappelt pushing his way in and Heisey around as an insurance policy, Stubbs just seems like the guy to deal.

[Reds Fanatic]

Colvin grounds out to 2nd. 2 outs.

[Kc61]

From everything I know about Sappelt, he should clearly be on the Reds roster next year. He can field, he can lead off. A two way player.

Maybe if the Reds can get a similar lefty hitter to platoon in LF. Drop Stubbs to sixth in the lineup.

[Reds Fanatic]

Wells fouls out to 1st. 4-2 Reds after 4.

[JaxRed]

From everything I know about Sappelt, he should clearly be on the Reds roster THIS year. He can field, he can lead off. A two way player.

Maybe if the Reds can get a similar lefty hitter to platoon in LF. Drop Stubbs to sixth in the lineup.

Fixed that for you.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Comparing Stubbs to Rolen doesn't work. Rolen lifetime is a true middle of the order hitter. When he slid this year Dusty dropped him to sixth. Stubbs against RHP is an out machine.

Stubbs cleanup is a future aspiration. Right now he is a sixth or seventh place hitter, at least against righties.

I wasn't really trying to compare Rolen & Stubbs. Only saying that his SLG probably isn't a good thing to point to when saying he's not a cleanup hitter since our regular cleanup hitter is doing pretty much exactly that. My point was that Stubbs possesses excellent power. I don't think anybody here will deny that. It's been making contact that's been the problem. That and looking at strikes. The looking at strikes thing...I really think a good part of that has been him trying to adapt to the leadoff role and attempting to see more pitches. When he's lower in the order, he's more aggressive (at least when I've watched him). I just don't think we've seen him out of the leadoff spot enough to really know what he'd do there. I'd obviously prefer a true cleanup hitter there, but you never know...he might fit that role well if given a shot.

Personally, I think Devin is going to be that cleanup hitter we're looking for.

[Reds Fanatic]

Sappelt singles to left. His first ML hit.

[Tom Servo]

Sappelt's first big league hit.

[Matt700wlw]

Who's this Sappelt guy?

[Ron Madden]

Congrats Dave Sappelt first big league basehit.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I get it. I like Stubbs oK, but the Reds need another bat in the middle and somebody at the top. Not everybody can hit 6th or 7th. Cozart is strictly an 8 hole guy IMO. Phillips should hit 6th but he's acceptable 2nd. Rolen should hit 7th. The Catchers probably won't hit up in the order. Even in AAA Mesoraco has been hitting 6th. So if Votto and Bruce fill two thirds of the middle and Phillips hits second, then they need LF and CF to hit 1st and 4th. I don't think Stubbs fits in either spot. With Sappelt pushing his way in and Heisey around as an insurance policy, Stubbs just seems like the guy to deal.

Well, I was thinking something along these lines....

Sappelt CF
Phillips 2b
Votto 1b
Stubbs LF
Bruce RF
Rolen 3b
Cozart SS
Hanigan c
pitcher

Of course I don't think Rolen will be there long (if at all) and I think Mesoraco will be up too next year. So next year, with the new guys in place, I was thinking something like this....

Sappelt CF
Phillips 2b
Votto 1b
Mesoraco C
Bruce Rf
Stubbs LF
Frazier 3b (or Francisco or god forbid Alonso)
Cozart ss
Pitcher

[_Sir_Charles_]

:clap: Way to go Dave!

[_Sir_Charles_]

:jump: Edgar? :O) Okay....EDGAR! :laugh:

[Tom Servo]

Renteria with a 2 run jack. Go figure.

[Reds Fanatic]

Renteria homers into the basket in left on his birthday. 6-2 Reds!

[Matt700wlw]

The surge to third is on!!!

[Kc61]

Personally, I think Devin is going to be that cleanup hitter we're looking for.

Hope so. These AAA guys can hit. Some can't field, but they all can hit.

And Francisco murders righties, he's not here yet.

And Mes, maybe best of them all.

Walt has to figure out this puzzle. He can't just accumulate guys.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto singles to right.

[Tom Servo]

Hope so. These AAA guys can hit. Some can't field, but they all can hit.

And Francisco murders righties, he's not here yet.

And Mes, maybe best of them all.

Walt has to figure out this puzzle. He can't just accumulate guys.
Trade Stubbs for pitching, says I. And I'm a fan of him too. But that's another thread for another time.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce strikes out swinging.

[Ron Madden]

Hope so. These AAA guys can hit. Some can't field, but they all can hit.

And Francisco murders righties, he's not here yet.

And Mes, maybe best of them all.

Walt has to figure out this puzzle. He can't just accumulate guys.

If Cairo is hurt they should put him on the DL and call up Francisco, no sense in playing short handed.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier grounds into a 6-4-3 DP. 6-2 Reds mid 5th.

[Reds Fanatic]

Castro lines out to left. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Campana pops out to Arroyo. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ramirez pops out to Janish. 6-2 Reds after 5.

[Caveat Emperor]

Campana is Willy Taveras v. 2.0. I suppose it's a nice "local kid makes good" story, but he's very underwhelming as a ballplayer.

[Reds Fanatic]

Stubbs grounds out to 3rd. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hanigan grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Janish lines out to right. 6-2 Reds mid 6th.

[WVRedsFan]

Sappelt should have been here out of spring training and Lewis should never have been signed. Gomes should never have been signed. Same at SS--Cozart and no Renteria. And yet it looks like we might win one today (what a jump) and move into third. Oh, what might have been if not for...oh, yeah. The pitching that we thought we had.

Wait until last year!!!

[Tom Servo]

Campana is Willy Taveras v. 2.0. I suppose it's a nice "local kid makes good" story, but he's very underwhelming as a ballplayer.
I hate Campana. I generally like hard workers but his 'scrappiness' and lack of general skills just annoys the hell out of me. He's like the outfield version of Eckstein.

[Reds Fanatic]

Pena strikes out swinging. 1 out.

[WVRedsFan]

I hate Campana. I generally like hard workers but his 'scrappiness' and lack of general skills just annoys the hell out of me. He's like the outfield version of Eckstein.Freel? Probably be a hit in Cincinnati, though.

[Reds Fanatic]

Byrd walks

[Reds Fanatic]

DeWitt homers to right. 6-4 Reds

[CTA513]

#32 for Arroyo

[Tom Servo]

There's the Bronson we know.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Byrd walks

If I recall correctly...those haunt. Ugh.

[Ron Madden]

Let's hope Dusty has Bronson on a short leash.

[Tom Servo]

Let's hope Dusty has Bronson on a short leash.
:laugh:


Oh wait, you're serious. :(

[Reds Fanatic]

Soto strikes out swinging.

Colvin grounds out to 2nd. 6-4 Reds after 6.

[Reds Fanatic]

Lewis pinch hits and grounds out to 1st.

[Reds Fanatic]

Sappelt grounds out to 3rd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Renteria flies out to left.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ondrusek in to pitch

[WVRedsFan]

Why Onsrusek? Why?

[Reds Fanatic]

Onrusek hits the pinch hitter Johnson with the first pitch.

[Reds Fanatic]

Castro singled to right. 1st and 3rd.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Why Onsrusek? Why?

Why not? Yeah, he's had a tough week or so...but 51 innings pitched this year, 2.12 era. He's been very good most all year long. But he's also been heavily worked too. He may be getting tired.

He's certainly looking tired right now.

[Tom Servo]

Why Onsrusek? Why?
Dusty must have had money on the Cubs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Campana singles to right. 6-5 Reds.

[WVRedsFan]

Logan has not been able to get anyone out lately. His low ERA is a product of earlier as it has moved steadily upward in huge chunks lately. Dusty doesn't see, to know that on anyone. His gut is faulty this year.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ramirez grounds into a 5-4 FC. 1st and 3rd with 1 out.

[Ron Madden]

A HBP, a bloop off the end of the bat and a weak grounder through the hole to score a run and now runners at first and third. Dang!

[JaxRed]

Logan has not been able to get anyone out lately. His low ERA is a product of earlier as it has moved steadily upward in huge chunks lately. Dusty doesn't see, to know that on anyone. His gut is faulty this year.

Dusty Rule #1 - If a player is struggling, he must be played to show you support him.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bray in to pitch

[Tom Servo]

The dream for #3 in the Central will probably have to live another day.

[Reds Fanatic]

Good pitch. Pena strikes out looking. 2 outs.

[Ron Madden]

That was a HUGE K.

[Reds Fanatic]

Masset in to pitch

[Hollcat]

I Dont like this move

[Ron Madden]

Bring the heat!

[Reds Fanatic]

This team is painful to watch. Byrd doubles to left. Tie game. Reds got a break as the ball is caught in the ivy.

[CTA513]

*edit* 6-6 since the ball was stuck in the ivy

[Reds Fanatic]

Intentional walk. Bases loaded.

[Tom Servo]

Ondrusek and Masset are the death of me.

[jojo]

The Reds just got a huge break on Byrds' hit down the line but I'm struggling to be in a positive mood.

[Red in Chicago]

honestly, should have just left bray in...

[Tony Cloninger]

You waste 2 pitchers.....one who is not a LOOGY...and now you bring in the other gas can of the Bullpen since the AS break.

[jojo]

I just hope Soto doesn't go yard.

[CTA513]

wild pitch makes it 7-6

[Ron Madden]

I wish Nick would trust his fastball.

[jojo]

Masset doesn't have any command today.

[Reds Fanatic]

Unreal. Wild pitch. 7-6 Cubs.

[CTA513]

Chapman up again

[WVRedsFan]

I wish Nick would trust his fastball.I wish Nick would just go away. I've seen enough of his ups and downs over the years to have absolutely no confidence in him. None.

[redsfaninbsg]

Dusty planning for tomorrow and it never comes once again.

[Reds Fanatic]

Soto strikes out swinging. 7-6 Cubs after7.

[Hollcat]

Dusty, if your every instinct is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right

[Tony Cloninger]

This is who some people want as their closer?

Can someone put him ion a chokehold and see if that leads to a 10 game winning streak?

[redsfaninbsg]

Dusty, if your every instinct is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right

In his defense, every move he makes is wrong. Part of that has to be just bad luck.

[CTA513]

This is who some people want as their closer?

Can someone put him ion a chokehold and see if that leads to a 10 game winning streak?

Ondrusek or Masset? just wondering since it was Ondrusek who started the mess.

[Tom Servo]

We're gonna get swept by the Cubs. :(

[Reds Fanatic]

Marshall in to pitch and Barney in to play 2nd.

[Reds Fanatic]

We're gonna get swept by the Cubs. :(

And lose 5 out of 6 to the Astros and Cubs

[Red in Chicago]

is it wrong to wish they would just lose 50 games in a row, in hopes of making changes next year:confused:

[Tony Cloninger]

Ondrusek or Masset? just wondering since it was Ondrusek who started the mess.

Nick. He has a lack of closer mentality IMO...but I was told ...how could I know that? The guy can barely trust his stuff as a set up guy.

[redsfaninbsg]

Line drive double by Votto! haha

[Tom Servo]

vintage Cubs right there

[Hollcat]

We're gonna get swept by the Cubs. :(

That makes sense. They are clearly better than the Astros who took two of three

[Reds Fanatic]

Reds get a gift as the Cubs defense shows up on an easy popup. Votto to 2nd. Byrd lost his footing and fell down.

[CTA513]

pop up double for Votto due to Byrd falling down

[nate]

KEYSTONE KUBS!

[Red in Chicago]

we're right in line for another 1 run loss as it is boys...let's make sure strand votto at second

[Hollcat]

Great we're in the clutch part of the order.

[Tom Servo]

didn't stand a chance

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce strikes out swinging. 1 out.

[LoganBuck]

Watching the Reds just isn't fun right now. Kind of like listening to Congress moan and groan about budgets and parliamentary procedure.

Bruce Ks

[CTA513]

Big part of the game and a big whiff

[Hollcat]

Come on Frazier. I won't even watch if it's left up to Stubbs to get him in

[Reds Fanatic]

Big hit. Frazier doubles to left. 7-7.

[CTA513]

RBI double by Frazier to make it 7-7

[Hollcat]

How bout that

[Tom Servo]

The pride of New Jersey! :)

[Ron Madden]

I like this Frazier kid.

[Reds Fanatic]

Stubbs walks. 1st and 2nd.

[LvJ]

Frazier looking very impressive.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hanigan singles to right. 8-7 Reds!

[Ron Madden]

Hanigan!

[nate]

Hanigan is the Manigan!

[CTA513]

Masset in line for the win

:laugh:

[forfreelin04]

Masset in line for the win

:laugh:

Can he gift it to Dontrelle Willis?

[Reds Fanatic]

Jeff Samardzjia in to pitch

[CTA513]

Can he gift it to Dontrelle Willis?

No my fantasy team needs it

:D

[forfreelin04]

No my fantasy team needs it

:D

If massett is on your team, it certainly does

[CTA513]

If massett is on your team, it certainly does

Not many relief pitchers left in the league that can get a good amount of Ks

[Reds Fanatic]

Janish walks. Bases loaded. Alonso pinch hitting

[redsfaninbsg]

Am I the only one who feels as if the Reds have pissed away this season by waiting so long to give the young kids a shot?

[Reds Fanatic]

Alonso broken bat 5-2-3 DP. 8-7 Reds mid 8th.

[Kc61]

I wish Nick would just go away. I've seen enough of his ups and downs over the years to have absolutely no confidence in him. None.

The Reds righty bullpen has faded badly. Ondrusek can't get anyone out. Masset almost as bad. Arredondo very spotty.

Let's hope Cordero is a bit better if he gets a chance today.

[Matt700wlw]

The Reds do some really dumb baseball things a lot of the time.

[Tom Servo]

apparently Yonder IS human

[WVRedsFan]

I fear ythe DP..

I wish to %%$# that this team would be more patient. There will not be only one pitch to hit in an at bat unless you're facing Cy Young. If that's Dusty's philosophy, then fire the creep now and get it over with.

[CrackerJack]

Dusty Rule #1 - If a player is struggling, he must be played to show you support him.

Please make it all stop.

Ondrusek needs to be sent to AAA or put on the DL. Dusty can send him some flowers every week to let him know he's thinking of him.

[Matt700wlw]

I fear ythe DP..

I wish to %%$# that this team would be more patient. There will not be only one pitch to hit in an at bat unless you're facing Cy Young. If that's Dusty's philosophy, then fire the creep now and get it over with.

He doesn't like base cloggers.

[Reds Fanatic]

Home plate ump who has been stuggling with the heat all day is being replaced.

[Reds Fanatic]

Chapman in to pitch

[Kc61]

I fear ythe DP..

I wish to %%$# that this team would be more patient. There will not be only one pitch to hit in an at bat unless you're facing Cy Young. If that's Dusty's philosophy, then fire the creep now and get it over with.

Just a bad break there. Yonder went to the opposite field and just didn't hit it solidly.

Just one of those things. Could have happened on any pitch.

[Ron Madden]

Most pinch hitters swing at the first good pitch they see.

[Tom Servo]

Just a bad break there. Yonder went to the opposite field and just didn't hit it solidly.

Just one of those things. Could have happened on any pitch.
Indeed. Plus it's hard to get on Yonder for swinging away given almost all of his previous at-bats.

[Reds Fanatic]

Baker strikes out swinging.

[Tom Servo]

Milwaukee swept the Astros today, by the way. That's what good teams do. :dunno:

[Reds Fanatic]

Barney strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Castro strikes out swinging. Chapman strikes out the side. 8-7 Reds after 8.

[Ron Madden]

Barney strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

On a high pitch that Jeff Brantley claims was belt high.:lol:

[BCubb2003]

Castro strikes out swinging. Chapman strikes out the side. 8-7 Reds after 8.

Chapman is the only bullpen arm we can rely on right now.

[forfreelin04]

Chapman is down right filthy. He needs to be starting next year.

[reds1869]

Chapman is down right filthy. He needs to be starting next year.

I've swung into that camp as well. Chapman would be a tremendous closer but would be even more valuable in the rotation if he can give you six quality innings consistently.

[Reds Fanatic]

Sappelt strikes out looking. 1 out.

[forfreelin04]

I've swung into that camp as well. Chapman would be a tremendous closer but would be even more valuable in the rotation if he can give you six quality innings consistently.

I'm with ya. This team needs a potential ace more than it needs a closer

[Reds Fanatic]

Renteria strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto strikes out swinging. 8-7 Reds mid 9th.

[WVRedsFan]

Giving CoCo a one run lead is like crazy. We may go extras or home with our tails tucked between our legs...

[Reds Fanatic]

Cordero coming in to pitch.

Campana, Ramirez and Pena due up

[OldXOhio]

Milwaukee swept the Astros today, by the way. That's what good teams do. :dunno:

In light of the Reds misfortunes, I've become a Brewers supporter. Store it in the "anyone but the Cardinals" file.

[Kc61]

Chapman is down right filthy. He needs to be starting next year.

My guess he will be a closer next year. Which is fine if the Reds add a good starter.

[Reds Fanatic]

Campana grounds out to short. 1 out.

[nate]

I swear a saw little plumes of "scrappy" emanating from Campana as he ran to first.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ramirez pops out to 3rd. 2 outs.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I swear a saw little plumes of "scrappy" emanating from Campana as he ran to first.

ROFL. Post of the day. :O)

[Ron Madden]

Reds Win!!!

[Reds Fanatic]

Pena grounds out to 1st. Reds win 8-7. :beerme:

[_Sir_Charles_]

And this one belongs to the Reds.