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_Sir_Charles_
09-06-2011, 04:16 PM
Phillips 4
Sappelt 8
Votto 3
Bruce 9
Mesoraco 2
Cairo 5
Frazier 7
Valaika 6
Leake 1

Kc61
09-06-2011, 04:17 PM
Feels like spring training. Which is ok under the circumstances.

_Sir_Charles_
09-06-2011, 04:17 PM
Nice to see Mes back in there and moved up the order a tad. Really nice to see Stubbs get a day off. Valaika at short? Hmmmm. Not exactly a fantastic left side to say the least.

Just saw this on Sheldon's blog, this is Sappelt's first ML start at center. I never really thought about it before, but he HAS been in left a bunch.

medford
09-06-2011, 04:35 PM
What's the point in playing at chicago, and playing a night game? I guess the bleacher bums make sure their kids go to school.

lollipopcurve
09-06-2011, 04:40 PM
Great to see Sappelt get a start in CF and Valaika at SS.

Screwball
09-06-2011, 05:48 PM
What's the point in playing at chicago, and playing a night game? I guess the bleacher bums make sure their kids go to school.

:laugh::lol::D

Good one.

RedsManRick
09-06-2011, 05:53 PM
So bummed -- had tickets to this game but lost them. They were physical tickets, not online, so I'm SOL. Well, at least I'll warm...

RedsManRick
09-06-2011, 08:08 PM
Anybody else notice that Phillips seems to be taking his last practice swing really, really late the last few games? Seems like his bat isn't even getting back in to position until the ball is half way to home plate.

RedsManRick
09-06-2011, 08:10 PM
Sappelt with a line drive double to LC. That's how it's supposed to look.

dougdirt
09-06-2011, 08:13 PM
Sappelt with a line drive double to LC. That's how it's supposed to look.

That is the Dave Sappelt type of swing that I saw a lot in Louisville.

Kc61
09-06-2011, 08:24 PM
Nice catch by Sappelt.

He should get a lot of playing time in CF now. Reds will want to avoid a Stubbs K record.

mbgrayson
09-06-2011, 08:26 PM
Could have sworn that on that strike 3 pitch to Aramis Ramirez, Marty said 'Bronson deals, and Ramirez swings and misses....' Of course tonight it's not Bronson, but Mike Leake....

dougdirt
09-06-2011, 08:27 PM
He should get a lot of playing time in CF now. Reds will want to avoid a Stubbs K record.

Nope. Dusty said in the pregame that Stubbs will be back there tomorrow. They want to get him 100 runs. And Stubbs won't get close to the All Time record. The Reds have 21 games left. He needs 39 strikeouts in that time to tie the record. Stubbs strikes out a lot. Even he doesn't strike out that much.

mbgrayson
09-06-2011, 08:31 PM
Nope. Dusty said in the pregame that Stubbs will be back there tomorrow. They want to get him 100 runs. And Stubbs won't get close to the All Time record. The Reds have 21 games left. He needs 39 strikeouts in that time to tie the record. Stubbs strikes out a lot. Even he doesn't strike out that much.

I think you are right, but Stubbs has struck over 40 times in a month twice this year... Splits here (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/gamelog/_/id/29611/drew-stubbs).

dougdirt
09-06-2011, 08:45 PM
I think you are right, but Stubbs has struck over 40 times in a month twice this year... Splits here (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/gamelog/_/id/29611/drew-stubbs).

In a month, yes. But he has about 67% of a month left.

dougdirt
09-06-2011, 08:54 PM
Should Phillips have put the brakes on after stumbling right after third there?

RedsManRick
09-06-2011, 09:16 PM
I wonder if Phillips is doing that late practice swing thing to force himself to take the first pitch...

Kc61
09-06-2011, 09:56 PM
Leake pitching great tonight.

Mes called for catchers interference, but no damage.

dougdirt
09-06-2011, 10:27 PM
Whoops.

edabbs44
09-06-2011, 10:28 PM
ouch

nate
09-06-2011, 10:29 PM
I hate it when that happens.

Tom Servo
09-06-2011, 10:29 PM
haven't been following the game, just saw what happened.


are you serious bro?

PuffyPig
09-06-2011, 10:29 PM
Gotta feel sorry for the kid.

With 2 outs the Cubs extend the inning with a swinging bunt hit. Only the 2nd hit off Leake.

A HR ties it.

Kc61
09-06-2011, 10:30 PM
Reds will win it for Leake in the tenth.

Great outing despite the homer.

TeamBoone
09-06-2011, 10:30 PM
Oh man... I feel so bad for him. What a great game he pitched (and so few pitches at that).

I think he was nervous.

nate
09-06-2011, 10:31 PM
Oh man... I feel so bad for him. What a great game he pitched (and so few pitches at that).

I think he was nervous.

Obviously, he shouldn't have been "closing."

:cool:

TeamBoone
09-06-2011, 10:31 PM
Obviously, he shouldn't have been "closing."

:cool:

Really?

Chip R
09-06-2011, 10:33 PM
Obviously, he shouldn't have been "closing."

:cool:

No coffee for him.

nate
09-06-2011, 10:34 PM
Really?

No?

Tony Cloninger
09-06-2011, 10:36 PM
Too bad he did not throw him a 2-0 change up. Terrible luck there with the Castro hit.

Caveat Emperor
09-06-2011, 10:37 PM
Gotta feel sorry for the kid.

With 2 outs the Cubs extend the inning with a swinging bunt hit. Only the 2nd hit off Leake.

A HR ties it.

On the other hand, he has no one to blame but himself letting Castro get on base and then leaving a gopher ball out there (after falling behind 2-0 -- inexcusable) for a career minor leaguer to take him yard.

It's been a problem with the Reds all season -- lack of focus on the mound in key situations. Bailey's had a lot of "feel sorry for him" starts where the same thing happened -- one moment's lack of focus leads to a ball that gets crushed and costs him an otherwise good start.

Leake was his own worst enemy in the 9th.

Red in Chicago
09-06-2011, 10:55 PM
it's games like tonight, that make me hate living here...

Red in Chicago
09-06-2011, 10:56 PM
it's games like tonight, that makes me hate living here...

WVRedsFan
09-06-2011, 10:56 PM
Gas Can Masset. Dusty is nuts. I don't complain about him much, but he made two fatal mistakes tonight. He left Leake in too long and he put Masset in the game. The result---LOSS. Pitiful

BuckeyeRedleg
09-06-2011, 10:57 PM
This game.

Season in a nutshell.

Hopefully 2012 doesn't suck this bad.

(Leake was not left in too long).

WVRedsFan
09-06-2011, 11:01 PM
This game.

Season in a nutshell.

Hopefully 2012 doesn't suck this bad.

(Leake was not left in too long).ON that we disagree. If the object is winning and with a kid that has his whole career in front of him, when he allowed the tying run to come to the plate, he should have been lifted.

But, then again, that's the rules of baseball. "Give him a chance to get the CG and the shutout. Winning be danged.

Feel sorry for Red in Chicago.

And we still have life. Good.

BuckeyeRedleg
09-06-2011, 11:01 PM
Nice DP. Hopefully I posted too soon.

BuckeyeRedleg
09-06-2011, 11:03 PM
ON that we disagree. If the object is winning and with a kid that has his whole career in front of him, when he allowed the tying run to come to the plate, he should have been lifted.

But, then again, that's the rules of baseball. "Give him a chance to get the CG and the shutout. Winning be danged.

Feel sorry for Red in Chicago.

And we still have life. Good.

Leake was cruising.

A weak hit by Castro.

Any manager would have let him finish it off for the shutout.

Screwball
09-06-2011, 11:03 PM
Nice DP. Hopefully I posted too soon.

Wow, Mesoraco's got a canon. I didn't think they were gonna turn it after Cairo's lob home, but then Mes rifled it to first.

Caveat Emperor
09-06-2011, 11:04 PM
Leake was cruising.

A weak hit by Castro.

Any manager would have let him finish it off for the shutout.

Dusty wasn't the one who fell behind 2-0 to Rob Stratton's long lost brother and then threw a meatball over the plate for him to crush.

BuckeyeRedleg
09-06-2011, 11:09 PM
Dusty wasn't the one who fell behind 2-0 to Rob Stratton's long lost brother and then threw a meatball over the plate for him to crush.

Exactly.

dougdirt
09-06-2011, 11:10 PM
Dusty wasn't the one who fell behind 2-0 to Rob Stratton's long lost brother and then threw a meatball over the plate for him to crush.

You know Dusty is calling the pitches from the dugout. Can't trust a rookie catcher. (I am absolutely joking here).

Red in Chicago
09-06-2011, 11:11 PM
Really???? Sad base running.

WVRedsFan
09-06-2011, 11:13 PM
Some of you stats guys...seems like we are having so many of these EI affairs. Do the Reds lead the majors in this category, or does it just seem that way?

Tony Cloninger
09-06-2011, 11:15 PM
Leake could have shaken Devin off if he wanted to. He made a bad location of the 2-0 pitch.
Don't know how blaming Dusty here is really plausible.

WVRedsFan
09-06-2011, 11:15 PM
Jose is the next pitcher to try to give this one away. He's always been a little wild and now he walks the first batter. Wow, the guy was hitting .202 on the year.

WVRedsFan
09-06-2011, 11:18 PM
Leake could have shaken Devin off if he wanted to. He made a bad location of the 2-0 pitch.
Don't know how blaming Dusty here is really plausible.TC:

I know all the arguments for leaving Leake in, but given the circumstances--trying to stay ahead of Pittsburgh and chasing StL, winning would have been the main objective and in order to insure the 12th win for Leake and the win, I would think he would have brought in the closer (I know, ewwwww, Codero), but I don't think it's a crime to say that Dusty made a mistake. It's it's the unpardonable sin, I'm sorry.

Tony Cloninger
09-06-2011, 11:20 PM
I can knock Dusty all day long but not for this. Weak INF hit........ next time he learns to make a better pitch? Next time Dusty takes him out beacuse he realizes that Leake has a hard time finishing ? (Like in Philly)

If they were in a race ...I am sure the closer comes in.

WVRedsFan
09-06-2011, 11:24 PM
I can knock Dusty all day long but not for this. Weak INF hit........ next time he learns to make a better pitch? Next time Dusty takes him out beacuse he realizes that Leake has a hard time finishing ? (Like in Philly)

If they were in a race ...I am sure the closer comes in.Well, we are in a race, sort of, for 3rd place. You can bet that the players want to finish 3rd and so do I.

But no matter. What's done is done. Now, I still want to know if we are the leaders in EI games. And now we're in trouble again. Good grief.

RedsManRick
09-06-2011, 11:26 PM
Kind of fun having all these extra players around.

Kc61
09-06-2011, 11:37 PM
Reds might want to score a run at some point.

Or at least come close.

Red in Chicago
09-06-2011, 11:46 PM
Votto and Bruce better do something this inning.

WVRedsFan
09-06-2011, 11:48 PM
Double by Sappeldt. Offesne? We don't need no offense. We play extras for a living :laugh:

WVRedsFan
09-06-2011, 11:48 PM
Votto does something, Red in Chicago. You called it!

WVRedsFan
09-06-2011, 11:50 PM
Jay Bruce and Votto slumping lately. Hopefully Bruce...nah. Low and away gets him everytime.

WVRedsFan
09-06-2011, 11:53 PM
Cairo is a city in Egypt and also a very young senior citizen who comes through when needed most of the time. 4-2 Reds!

Red in Chicago
09-06-2011, 11:54 PM
Cairo is a city in Egypt and also a very young senior citizen who comes through when needed most of the time. 4-2 Reds!

That was a huge insurance run. Better be good coco tonight.

Kc61
09-06-2011, 11:57 PM
Sappelt with a good night.

Kc61
09-06-2011, 11:59 PM
Coco with a K.

PuffyPig
09-07-2011, 12:00 AM
On the other hand, he has no one to blame but himself letting Castro get on base ......


You gotta be kidding right?????

A pitcher can prevent a swinging bunt base hit?

CTA513
09-07-2011, 12:01 AM
1-2-3 13th inning save by the coke man

Kc61
09-07-2011, 12:02 AM
Coco on a salary drive.

WVRedsFan
09-07-2011, 12:03 AM
Good Coco shows up. Reds win 4-2 thanks to Dave S. , Votto and Codero.

PuffyPig
09-07-2011, 12:03 AM
ON that we disagree. If the object is winning and with a kid that has his whole career in front of him, when he allowed the tying run to come to the plate, he should have been lifted.

But, then again, that's the rules of baseball. "Give him a chance to get the CG and the shutout. Winning be danged.



Leaving a pitcher who had thrown about 85 pitches allowing only a couple of poorly hit basehits in the game was the sensible think to do.

Actually if Cordero had come in to start the 9th, many would have complained that Dusty was putting in the closer simply becuas eit was s ave situation.

Leake was cruising like no pitcher has cruised for us this year.

That's a fact jack.

PuffyPig
09-07-2011, 12:05 AM
Good Coco shows up. Reds win 4-2 thanks to Dave S. , Votto and Codero.

Lecure induced the DP or the game dosen'tt get into extra's.

Chapman gets 4 key outs.

And of course, the real star of the day, Mike Leake who gave up only 2 runs in 9 innings to get us into extra's so everyone else can get us the win.

WVRedsFan
09-07-2011, 12:08 AM
Seems like "one bad pitch" is the mantra for this team in 2011. Homer, Leake, how many others? We need offense and we need it bad. Walt?

VR
09-07-2011, 12:14 AM
Leake's last outing of the year.....good way to finish.

WVRedsFan
09-07-2011, 12:30 AM
Leake's last outing of the year.....good way to finish.

Kid's gonna be good. Shame we couldn't score more runs against the hapless Cubs while he was in there. But it's a win, Mike can't sue for non-support, and all's well that ends well.

Caveat Emperor
09-07-2011, 12:37 AM
You gotta be kidding right?????

A pitcher can prevent a swinging bunt base hit?

Gotta put the hitter away there. Leake would be the first to tell you that he had Castro fooled that entire AB and didn't make the pitch he needed.

WVRedsFan
09-07-2011, 12:46 AM
Gotta put the hitter away there. Leake would be the first to tell you that he had Castro fooled that entire AB and didn't make the pitch he needed.Yep...but Bravo to Leake. Great performance

Ron Madden
09-07-2011, 03:39 AM
Gas Can Masset. Dusty is nuts. I don't complain about him much, but he made two fatal mistakes tonight. He left Leake in too long and he put Masset in the game. The result---LOSS. Pitiful

WRONG AGAIN. ;)

Ron Madden
09-07-2011, 04:06 AM
I don't understand why Marty and Jeff were complaining about Bruce late in the game.

Jay got on base his first 3 times to the plate (BB and 2 Hits) and very easily should have had 2 RBI.

There's no wonder so many fans turn against some of these young players with those two Idiots in the booth.

Here's the Boxscore.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2011_09_06_cinmlb_chnmlb_1&mode=box&c_id=cin

redsmetz
09-07-2011, 04:43 AM
Wow, I wasn't expecting this result. Went to bed with the sacks jammed assuming we probably were going to lose. Welcome news.

Ron Madden
09-07-2011, 04:51 AM
Wow, I wasn't expecting this result. Went to bed with the sacks jammed assuming we probably were going to lose. Welcome news.

Our man Sam has done an unbelievable job coming in with the bases loaded this season. :thumbup:

redsmetz
09-07-2011, 05:30 AM
Our man Sam has done an unbelievable job coming in with the bases loaded this season. :thumbup:

He has, a credit to my wife's alma mater back in Missouri.

It's a heartening win, having watched the highlights online now (since my wife's alarm clock was an hour early, I got a chance to watch them after my walk which I took an hour early...). Nice to see the bullpen come through solidly and we get some runs to win an extra-inning game on the road.

redsmetz
09-07-2011, 05:38 AM
Some of you stats guys...seems like we are having so many of these EI affairs. Do the Reds lead the majors in this category, or does it just seem that way?

Just counted them, with last night's game, that was our 15th extra inning game (thru game 143). That's over 10% of our games thus far. Someone may want to double check me on this, but it appears we're 10-5 in those games.

Just found a chart that shows there are eight other teams that have had more extra games. We're tied with Toronto at 15. Atlanta's had 23 (14-9), some others at 20. Amazing.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/standings/_/type/expanded

mth123
09-07-2011, 05:47 AM
Just counted them, with last night's game, that was our 15th extra inning game (thru game 143). That's over 10% of our games thus far. Someone may want to double check me on this, but it appears we're 10-5 in those games.

Correct. The Reds are 10 and 5 in extra innings. 15 extra inning sgames isn't really that many. Atlanta is 14-9, the Giants 12-8, the Marlins 7-12. the Cardinals 6-12, and the Nationals 10-7 have all played more in the NL.

lollipopcurve
09-07-2011, 07:19 AM
Sappelt with a good night.

He can hit.

PuffyPig
09-07-2011, 07:49 AM
Gotta put the hitter away there. Leake would be the first to tell you that he had Castro fooled that entire AB and didn't make the pitch he needed.

So, it's expected that you have to strike out every hitter you face? Can't even allow a minimal amount of contact?

Give blame for the gopher ball sure, but blame him for allowing a swinging bunt?

Tough crowd.

lollipopcurve
09-07-2011, 08:25 AM
Interesting that Leake said it was the best he's thrown since college. Also good to see that he enjoyed working with Mesoraco.

klw
09-07-2011, 08:55 AM
Great game by Leake. He was very much cruising and it was the right decision to leave him in. The game it reminded me of was this one from last year- http://espn.go.com/mlb/playbyplay?gameId=300709122 That was the game he was cruising in Philly until the 9th inning collapse. Last year I thought it was the wrong decision to leave him in as the pen was rested, the break was coming up, and while they were looking to limit Leake's innings they were not about to shut him down. Yesterday I thought he was so solid and we are a year later that it was right to keep him in. I wish he was able to get that last strike on Castro. Oh well learning.
My only criticism of Dusty from last night is that he took out the lefty heavy lineup of the past few games when the starting pitcher they were facing has much worse numbers against lefties than righties. But hey can't platoon all the time.

Sea Ray
09-07-2011, 09:15 AM
Just counted them, with last night's game, that was our 15th extra inning game (thru game 143). That's over 10% of our games thus far. Someone may want to double check me on this, but it appears we're 10-5 in those games.

Just found a chart that shows there are eight other teams that have had more extra games. We're tied with Toronto at 15. Atlanta's had 23 (14-9), some others at 20. Amazing.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/standings/_/type/expanded

I wonder how we'd stack up if we counted the extra innings played? It seems like a bunch of our games have gone to a lot of extra innings. When we play extra innings it isn't often just a 10 or 11 inning affair

traderumor
09-07-2011, 09:40 AM
It is incomprehensible to me how someone could honestly look at that situation and question leaving Leake in there. Low pitch count, a dribbler for the 2nd hit of the game, and a minor leaguer pinch hitting. Bad result, but absolutely you have to let the kid try to get the CG shutout. And least of all the arguments is the importance of winning that particular game by a 3rd place team in single digits from official elimination for the playoffs.

I was heartbroken for the kid, who was one strike away from a one-hitter.

lollipopcurve
09-07-2011, 09:43 AM
It is incomprehensible to me how someone could honestly look at that situation and question leaving Leake in there.

Agreed. Miniscule pitch count, and he was in complete control.

PuffyPig
09-07-2011, 10:11 AM
It is incomprehensible to me how someone could honestly look at that situation and question leaving Leake in there.

The board is full of posters who hind-sight manage based entirely on the results.

Not one poster spoke up and said he should have been taken out until the game was tied.

cumberlandreds
09-07-2011, 10:47 AM
At 70 something pitches entering the 9th you would be crazy to take him out. He deserved every chance to complete that game. He made one bad pitch and it cost him the win but not a team win. Which is the main thing.

redsmetz
09-07-2011, 11:22 AM
I wonder how we'd stack up if we counted the extra innings played? It seems like a bunch of our games have gone to a lot of extra innings. When we play extra innings it isn't often just a 10 or 11 inning affair

OK, here's the breakdown:

19 0-1 Home: 4-1
14 1-0 Away: 6-4 (tough to do)
13 3-0
12 0-2
11 1-1
10 5-1 10-5 overall

traderumor
09-07-2011, 01:21 PM
At 70 something pitches entering the 9th you would be crazy to take him out. He deserved every chance to complete that game. He made one bad pitch and it cost him the win but not a team win. Which is the main thing.And with the crazy movement he had all night, I'm guessing he expected that to move to the outside corner, but it stayed flat for some reason.

Caveat Emperor
09-07-2011, 01:23 PM
The board is full of posters who hind-sight manage based entirely on the results.

Not one poster spoke up and said he should have been taken out until the game was tied.

The issue is more losing focus at a key moment -- it's plagued Bailey this year (pitching in complete control than giving up two base hits and a 3-R HR) and I've seen Leake fall into it as well.

You have to put away Starlin Castro on a 2-strike pitch, and you CERTAINLY cannot let a career minor-leaguer take you deep after falling behind 2-0.

traderumor
09-07-2011, 01:28 PM
The issue is more losing focus at a key moment -- it's plagued Bailey this year (pitching in complete control than giving up two base hits and a 3-R HR) and I've seen Leake fall into it as well.

You have to put away Starlin Castro on a 2-strike pitch, and you CERTAINLY cannot let a career minor-leaguer take you deep after falling behind 2-0.
Castro is notoriously hard to strike out, so that was unlikely. He made a beautiful pitch that he chased and rolled over on for a swinging bunt instead of hitting a weak grounder to the right that the location should have yielded.

As for the homer on a 2-0 meatball fastball, first I think the ball didn't move like it was supposed to for whatever reason. I find it hard to believe he zoned out considering the situation. This game is hard, sometimes you don't execute what you were trying to do, and seemingly at the most inopportune times.

PuffyPig
09-07-2011, 02:19 PM
You have to put away Starlin Castro on a 2-strike pitch..... .

Man, this is baseball.

2-0, 0-2, guys get hits. All the time.

Castro has an above .300 BA after going down 0-2, so he's getting a hit at least one on five tries.

Leake made him chase a great pitch that he barely hit.

You simply can't say that Leake "has to put him away".

And if you didn't pipe us before the deed, don't pipe up know when you already know the outcome.

If it was that obvious, why didn't you mention it before hand?

redsmetz
09-07-2011, 02:44 PM
And with the crazy movement he had all night, I'm guessing he expected that to move to the outside corner, but it stayed flat for some reason.

You & another poster mentioned this (or maybe it was you reiterating the point), but it was clear watching the highlight videos that he had tremendous movement on the K's they showed. All moving up in the strike zone and the batters missing them. But the home run pitch was flat and stayed right there and the batter put it where it's supposed to go when you throw such a pitch. I agree with you that he didn't execute the pitch well, whatever movement he was getting during the game wasn't there for that one stinkin' pitch. It happens, the W went in our column, albeit not after Mike's name. Wow the economy on his pitches in this game last night was very good.

traderumor
09-07-2011, 03:29 PM
You & another poster mentioned this (or maybe it was you reiterating the point), but it was clear watching the highlight videos that he had tremendous movement on the K's they showed. All moving up in the strike zone and the batters missing them. But the home run pitch was flat and stayed right there and the batter put it where it's supposed to go when you throw such a pitch. I agree with you that he didn't execute the pitch well, whatever movement he was getting during the game wasn't there for that one stinkin' pitch. It happens, the W went in our column, albeit not after Mike's name. Wow the economy on his pitches in this game last night was very good.No, I didn't see the other post on the movement, but I'm not seeing Leake throwing a 4 seamer at that stage, it was a 2 seamer that didn't spin for some reason. It was a bad pitch he didn't get away with

_Sir_Charles_
09-07-2011, 07:46 PM
The issue is more losing focus at a key moment -- it's plagued Bailey this year (pitching in complete control than giving up two base hits and a 3-R HR) and I've seen Leake fall into it as well.

You have to put away Starlin Castro on a 2-strike pitch, and you CERTAINLY cannot let a career minor-leaguer take you deep after falling behind 2-0.

So I guess it's all on Dusty & Leake? No credit is given to the two guys holding the sticks at the plate? Sometimes you just have to tip your hat to the batter and say "well done". Mike was in complete command of that game. He didn't "lose it" or anything like that...he threw his pitch, it didn't end up exactly where he wanted it and the hitter took advantage of it. Most of the time, the pitcher gets away with that, when they don't...it's not a sign of him losing focus or him being left in too long, it's a sign that the hitter did a good job of taking advantage of a mistake.

For all the complaining in this thread, IMO there was not enough congratulations for Leake who pitched a PHENOMENAL game. 1 hitter going into the 9th inning and under 80 pitches. There's simply no way I'm going to complain about that outing even a little. :clap:

PuffyPig
09-07-2011, 07:53 PM
NM

HokieRed
09-08-2011, 03:45 AM
So I guess it's all on Dusty & Leake? No credit is given to the two guys holding the sticks at the plate? Sometimes you just have to tip your hat to the batter and say "well done". Mike was in complete command of that game. He didn't "lose it" or anything like that...he threw his pitch, it didn't end up exactly where he wanted it and the hitter took advantage of it. Most of the time, the pitcher gets away with that, when they don't...it's not a sign of him losing focus or him being left in too long, it's a sign that the hitter did a good job of taking advantage of a mistake.

For all the complaining in this thread, IMO there was not enough congratulations for Leake who pitched a PHENOMENAL game. 1 hitter going into the 9th inning and under 80 pitches. There's simply no way I'm going to complain about that outing even a little. :clap:

Agree 100%. It's a hard game. Sometimes I think that's underappreciated here.