What are the chances Co-Co is a Red in 2012

[brm7675]

Not what YOU want, but knowing Walt and the Reds what chances do you put on Co-Co being the closer next year for the Reds?

[redsfan1995]

i went with 40 to 60 because the reds dont have a closer in the orginization that can close next year and also cordero has expressed how much he likes cincy. also looking at the free agent closer list there will be no one the reds can afford except matt capps and john rauch so from those two i bet the front office picks cordero.

[Vottomatic]

Wow. Tough one.

As Redsfan 1995 said, tough situation because there is no one in the organization that has Closer experience or who appears ready to close. Nick Masset has failed big time at his chances to take that role. Chapman is destined to be a starter.

If they have to spend more than $7 or $8 million for Cordero, I'd just as well sign 2 or 3 relievers and go Closer by committee. But again, the problem will be that Dusty won't do closer by committee.

[brm7675]

I see him signing anywhere between 9-12 million per year for a 3 year deal, with monies defered.

[Vottomatic]

I see him signing anywhere between 9-12 million per year for a 3 year deal, with monies defered.

No thanks.

[texasdave]

I see him signing anywhere between 9-12 million per year for a 3 year deal, with monies defered.

I sure hope this doesn't transpire. I think Walt is too bright for something like this to occur.

[brm7675]

No thanks.

I wouldn't do it either, but look at Walt's track record and Dusty's love of veteran creaminess...

[brm7675]

I sure hope this doesn't transpire. I think Walt is too bright for something like this to occur.

You value Walt's brightness much more then I do...

[The DARK]

Pretty likely, though at a discount. His age, peripheral stats, and saturation on the closer market this season (Papelbon, K-Rod, Bell, and Madison, to name a few) means that if he's back, it'll be at a significant discount from his current contract. I see a 3 year, 22 million deal in the works, maybe with some deferrals.

[EMAW]

No thanks.

No interest in winning next year?
Who should close?
What do you have against Cordero?
Other than the flubs in Milwaukee near the all star break, he was rock solid
Just because Walt and Dusty like him you dislike?

[CrosleyField]

Resigns a lot cheaper than last year. 2 year contract. He wants to stay in Cincinnati

[smixsell]

I see him signing anywhere between 9-12 million per year for a 3 year deal, with monies defered.

:eek: That kind of $ for 3 years, are your nuts!?

[smixsell]

I see him signing a 1-2 year deal with us, maybe 1 year @ 6-8 mil or 2 years at 5-6 mil per year

[redcat]

100% if Dusty has a hand in the decision. Hopefully, Jocketty will see that Cordero's days in Cincy are over.

[Old NDN]

I see him signing anywhere between 9-12 million per year for a 3 year deal, with monies defered.

I think that's waaay too much for Cordero. His declining fastball (93mph avg., according to Fangraphs), bouts of wildness, and his refusal/inability to pitch inside don't bode well for much longer. BTW, in watching the playoffs, where in the heck do all these hard throwing pitchers come from? The Reds need to be shopping in that aisle.

[texasdave]

I think that's waaay too much for Cordero. His declining fastball (93mph avg., according to Fangraphs), bouts of wildness, and his refusal/inability to pitch inside don't bode well for much longer. BTW, in watching the playoffs, where in the heck do all these hard throwing pitchers come from? The Reds need to be shopping in that aisle.

That would be the HGH section of the pharmaceutical aisle.

[George Foster]

Co-co will sign with the highest bidder like he did his last contract. He is a "real" closer and his stats say the same. He will not give the Reds a discount. Sure he say's he would like to stay in Cincy...but that is all talk. He will not turn down a bigger contract, somewhere else.

[Pete4prez]

I would say about 75%. There is really no other answer within, If he will sign at a discount rate....then he will be a Red.

[LegallyMinded]

Whatever the odds actually are, they're too high. He had one of the luckiest years of his career this last season, in terms of BABIP and LOB%, and it was still hard to watch every time he came into the game. At this point, he's hardly a replacement level player, and it's bad enough the Reds are even considering his 2012 option, let alone trying to sign him to a multi-year deal.

[jwmann2]

Hopefully 0%. Not because he isn't great but because I would like to see Chapman as the closer and take Co-Co's 13 million and spread it throughout the bullpen or on another free agent starter. They've already said Chapman is going to spend the offseason converting to a starter though. I'm weary about this idea but I'm not a scout.