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klw
04-12-2012, 11:02 AM
Game is free on MLB.com
It is the nationals home opener.
Drew Storen and Mike Morse are both out long term for DC

Stubbs 8,
Cozart 6,
Votto 3,
Rolen 5,
Bruce 9,
Ludwick 7,
Valdez 4,
Mesoraco 2,
Latos RHP


Desmond 6
Espinosa 4
Zimmerman 5
Laroche 3
Werth 9
Nady 7
Bezhadina 8
Ramos 2
Gio Gonzalez 1



Chapman is unavailable per Fay
http://twitter.com/#!/johnfayman

Phillips may play Saturday or Sunday. Weather is supposed to be warmer. Baker was tempted to use him as pinch-hitter yesterday.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2012_04_12_cinmlb_wasmlb_1&mode=preview

After lackluster debuts with the Nationals and Reds, respectively, pitchers Gio Gonzalez and Mat Latos will both be seeking their first victory in their new uniforms this season when they square off Thursday afternoon at Nationals Park in Washington's home opener.

Gonzalez settled for a no-decision after allowing four runs on seven hits in just 3 2/3 innings of work against the Cubs on April 7. Latos didn't fare much better against the Marlins the same day, getting saddled with the loss after lasting 4 2/3 innings, also allowing four runs off seven base knocks.


Another thing working in Latos' favor is his 3-1 career record against the Nationals, including a 2-0 mark with a 1.42 ERA at Nationals Park.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 11:09 AM
This is the Nats Home Opener. It will be one of the few sell outs this season most likely. Nice day here in DC. Should be about 62 at game time and sunny. I'll be at the next two games. Good weather expected all weekend. 74 Saturday and in the 80's on Sunday.

Gio didn't look too good his first time out for the Nats. Hopefully its the same today. I did read this morning that Latos is 2-0 with 1.42 era at Nationals Ballpark. So he must like pitching there.

Homer Bailey
04-12-2012, 11:24 AM
Why does Dusty announce to the press that a player is unavailable? Why give the other manager that information?

medford
04-12-2012, 11:43 AM
Why does Dusty announce to the press that a player is unavailable? Why give the other manager that information?

My guess, is that in baseball, it just doesn't make that much of a difference in any single 1 game. Its not like the oppossing manager is going to alter his starting pitcher or lineup w/ Brandon in there or not. The Red's lineup is available before game time, even if he wanted to make adjustments, and the oppossing manager is probably assuming Brandon is available to pinch hit if called upon.

MikeS21
04-12-2012, 11:49 AM
Odd to have two back-to-back day games in the middle of the week.

kaldaniels
04-12-2012, 11:52 AM
I was hoping BP would be back tomorrow.

Homer Bailey
04-12-2012, 12:11 PM
My guess, is that in baseball, it just doesn't make that much of a difference in any single 1 game. Its not like the oppossing manager is going to alter his starting pitcher or lineup w/ Brandon in there or not. The Red's lineup is available before game time, even if he wanted to make adjustments, and the oppossing manager is probably assuming Brandon is available to pinch hit if called upon.

I doubt it can really have an effect on the outcome of the game, and I guess the fact that the closer is a lefty in Marshall could effect the situation, but there could come a situation where the opposing manager knows there is no lefty down in the pen for the Reds, so he can safely send up a lefty pinch hitter to face a righty. Again, not extremely important, but I wouldn't want the opposing manager to have that advantage.

klw
04-12-2012, 12:49 PM
Looks like a nice day for baseball
http://img.ly/gHEb

Nathan
04-12-2012, 12:56 PM
Reds in day games so far: 3-0
Reds in night games so far: 0-3

redsmetz
04-12-2012, 12:56 PM
Looks like a nice day for baseball
http://img.ly/gHEb

My son texted me to say the wind was blowing in today, so he's thinking it'll be a pitcher's duel.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:09 PM
And we are going.........

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:10 PM
Stubbs K's looking.

Oxilon
04-12-2012, 01:10 PM
Stubbs got lucky to see the full count on that at bat.

brad1176
04-12-2012, 01:11 PM
Stubbs out on strikes.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:11 PM
Cozart GO to SS

Tom Servo
04-12-2012, 01:12 PM
I have a bad feeling about the Reds chances against Gonzalez today.

757690
04-12-2012, 01:13 PM
Why does Dusty announce to the press that a player is unavailable? Why give the other manager that information?

I agree. This ain't the NFL.

Might as well let the opposing manager think that Phillips might be used.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:13 PM
Votto K's and that's the inning.

Caveat Emperor
04-12-2012, 01:16 PM
Time for Mat Latos to remind us all why the offered up so many players to get him.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:16 PM
One pitch one out. Desmond flies to CF

Degenerate39
04-12-2012, 01:16 PM
I hope that's Latos' natural hair color

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:20 PM
Latos and Espinosa in a battle. Have to be over 10 pitches.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:21 PM
Walk to Espinosa

Caveat Emperor
04-12-2012, 01:22 PM
Latos and Espinosa in a battle. Have to be over 10 pitches.

I'd be curious if there's ever a point where it becomes more efficient for a starting pticher to just walk a guy than give up a 10-15 pitch AB.

One out isn't worth 10% of a pitcher's pitch count, especially an otherwise quality starter.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:23 PM
Zim lines out to LF

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:24 PM
I'd be curious if there's ever a point where it becomes more efficient for a starting pticher to just walk a guy than give up a 10-15 pitch AB.

One out isn't worth 10% of a pitcher's pitch count, especially an otherwise quality starter.

I thought about that yesterday when Komatsu was running up pitch counts. Either walk him or just hit him.

Caveat Emperor
04-12-2012, 01:25 PM
I thought about that yesterday when Komatsu was running up pitch counts. Either walk him or just hit him.

On a 3-2 count, if no one is on base, I'd probably instruct my pitcher to hit the guy with pitch #8.

757690
04-12-2012, 01:26 PM
Zim lines out to LF

He crushed it, but tough wind blowing in today.

I hope Pete has the under today ;)

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:26 PM
LaRocke FO to LF no score after one

Degenerate39
04-12-2012, 01:26 PM
The Reds starting pitchers have me paranoid. Anytime the ball goes out of the infield I think it's going ot be a home run

brad1176
04-12-2012, 01:27 PM
The Reds starting pitchers have me paranoid. Anytime the ball goes out of the infield I think it's going ot be a home run

Agreed.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:27 PM
On a 3-2 count, if no one is on base, I'd probably instruct my pitcher to hit the guy with pitch #8.

You would at least have the guy thinking about that the next time up.

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 01:27 PM
I wonder if Ludwick will make contact. I wonder if we are going to let Gio dominate us. I wonder how far Bruce's 4th HR today will travel. Hmmm.

RichRed
04-12-2012, 01:27 PM
LaRocke FO to LF no score after one

Is that his Flintstones name, like Ann Margrock?

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 01:28 PM
Agreed.

I get this too. In regards to thinking a homer will come from anything touched with a bat. That is known as GABP syndrome. Take a breath and think of Crosely Field.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:29 PM
Ludwick LO to RF

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 01:30 PM
Ludwick LO to RF

Rolen

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:30 PM
Is that his Flintstones name, like Ann Margrock?

Sorry its LaRoche. I'm trying to do a little work in between this game. :)

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:30 PM
Bruce doubles

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 01:31 PM
Not a HR but a nice Double for Bruce

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:31 PM
Rolen

Yep I was thinking Dusty-like. :)

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 01:31 PM
Yep I was thinking Dusty-like. :)

Oh you mean aging vet gets the start vs. tough Lefties...haha

RichRed
04-12-2012, 01:32 PM
Sorry its LaRoche. I'm trying to do a little work in between this game. :)

Me too, and I appreciate your updates. I look forward to Ryan Ludrock's next hit, sometime in May.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:32 PM
Oh you mean aging vet gets the start vs. tough Lefties...haha

Yep and bat clean up too.

WrongVerb
04-12-2012, 01:32 PM
Just wondering...after yesterday's performance, why isn't Valdez leading off?

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 01:32 PM
I can not stand his swing

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:33 PM
Me too, and I appreciate your updates. I look forward to Ryan Ludrock's next hit, sometime in May.

Ludrock just popped out. Two away. :)

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 01:34 PM
Ludwick...broken bat pop up to second.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:35 PM
Valdez GO to end the inning. Scoreless in the 2nd. Gotta feeling about two runs will win this one today.

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 01:35 PM
Terrible with RISP thus far. Me no likey. 0-0 after 1 1/2

Degenerate39
04-12-2012, 01:36 PM
Rolen doesn't need to hit clean up. Put Bruce there

WrongVerb
04-12-2012, 01:38 PM
Rolen doesn't need to hit clean up. Put Bruce there

Everyone knows you don't put lefty hitters back to back! :rolleyes:

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:38 PM
Werth K's

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:40 PM
Nady GO to Cozart. Two gone

RichRed
04-12-2012, 01:42 PM
I'm resisting the urge to turn on MLB.TV while I'm at work, so instead I'm just refreshing the game thread every 10 seconds. As if that's any better.

brad1176
04-12-2012, 01:42 PM
I'm resisting the urge to turn on MLB.TV while I'm at work, so instead I'm just refreshing the game thread every 10 seconds. As if that's any better.

I'm in the same predicament!

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:43 PM
Bernadina FO to Bruce. Ends the inning, still scoreless.

MississippiRed
04-12-2012, 01:43 PM
Latos is throwing a lot of pitches.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:43 PM
I'm resisting the urge to turn on MLB.TV while I'm at work, so instead I'm just refreshing the game thread every 10 seconds. As if that's any better.

I work in DC and I'm blacked out. Stupid, stupid black out policy strikes again.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:45 PM
Mez GO to SS

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:46 PM
Latos grounds out two away

RichRed
04-12-2012, 01:47 PM
I work in DC and I'm blacked out. Stupid, stupid black out policy strikes again.

You know what, I hadn't even checked but I'm blacked out too (I'm in Va. Beach). Onward with the game thread refreshes!

I am recording the game on MASN to watch later though.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:47 PM
Stubbs grounds to 3rd Zim boots the ball then throws it away. Stubbs to 2nd.

Only one error on the play which I don't understand.

Strikes Out Looking
04-12-2012, 01:48 PM
Anybody going to be at the game on Sunday? I'm going to be at that titanic struggle.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:49 PM
You know what, I hadn't even checked but I'm blacked out too (I'm in Va. Beach). Onward with the game thread refreshes!

I am recording the game on MASN to watch later though.


Me too. If the Reds win I'll watch it tonight if not I'll delete it.

Cozart K's as I write this. Inning over.

redsmetz
04-12-2012, 01:49 PM
It's been a all day baseball day for me. One consulting client has had me working on issues for shipments of goods going to the Yankees and to the Mets. Yankees ordered some product late, neglected to advise my customer that it's need for tomorrow's opener, so I've had to step up getting delivery to the stadium by tomorrow a.m. instead of usual delivery time. Mets getting a whole truckload & one person said said to delivery Monday instead of tomorrow. No can do, so we've worked that out too. Now I can just listen to baseball & do my other work.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:50 PM
It's been a all day baseball day for me. One consulting client has had me working on issues for shipments of goods going to the Yankees and to the Mets. Yankees ordered some product late, neglected to advise my customer that it's need for tomorrow's opener, so I've had to step up getting delivery to the stadium by tomorrow a.m. instead of usual delivery time. Mets getting a whole truckload & one person said said to delivery Monday instead of tomorrow. No can do, so we've worked that out too. Now I can just listen to baseball & do my other work.

I would make the Yankees pay an extra $10 million to move that shipping date up. :)

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:51 PM
Anybody going to be at the game on Sunday? I'm going to be at that titanic struggle.

Just Friday and Saturday for me. I have to rest one day from coming into town. I'm down here five days every week anyway.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:54 PM
Ramos GO to Rolen. One away. Wasn't Ramos the guy who was kidknapped over the Winter?

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:54 PM
Gio GO to Cozart. Two away

redsmetz
04-12-2012, 01:56 PM
I would make the Yankees pay an extra $10 million to move that shipping date up. :)

I'm assuming they're billing them the additional costs, but can't say for sure. It was a tad less than $10 million.

LvJ
04-12-2012, 01:56 PM
If anyone wants to watch the game for free, I know how. PM me.

Reds/Flyers Fan
04-12-2012, 01:56 PM
Anybody going to be at the game on Sunday? I'm going to be at that titanic struggle.

On the 100-year anniversary of the real Titanic's struggle

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:57 PM
50 Pitches for Latos.

Desmond with a two out single

Tom Servo
04-12-2012, 01:57 PM
Ramos GO to Rolen. One away. Wasn't Ramos the guy who was kidknapped over the Winter?
Yup, the very same.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 01:58 PM
On the 100-year anniversary of the real Titanic's struggle

Has it been that long? Only seems like yesterday.


GO to Votto ends the inning. The Cowboy is out of it today. He just said we are headed for the bottom of the 4th. :lol:

BoydsOfSummer
04-12-2012, 02:00 PM
Latos throwing a mean yakker, just can't get a strike with it.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:00 PM
1-6-3 One away for the Reds.

klw
04-12-2012, 02:00 PM
I'd be curious if there's ever a point where it becomes more efficient for a starting pticher to just walk a guy than give up a 10-15 pitch AB.

One out isn't worth 10% of a pitcher's pitch count, especially an otherwise quality starter.

Problem is you only know in retrospect how long the at bat will take.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:01 PM
GO to 2nd. This is getting too easy.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:02 PM
Bruce GO to 2nd to end the Reds 4th. Zero all

brad1176
04-12-2012, 02:03 PM
Well that didn't take long.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:04 PM
Well that didn't take long.

Keep this up and I am going to have battle the baseball crowd on the subway home in about an hour.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:07 PM
Zim grounds out hard to Votto, One away

brad1176
04-12-2012, 02:08 PM
Is it just me or do Reds hitters get less patient at the plate as a game goes along, especially if they're struggling? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:08 PM
La Roche singles into RF.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:09 PM
Is it just me or do Reds hitters get less patient at the plate as a game goes along, especially if they're struggling? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

You would think so.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:10 PM
Werth Flies to RF, Two away

brad1176
04-12-2012, 02:11 PM
Jayson 'Captain Caveman' Werth, going for a Jonny Damon impression. :laugh:

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:13 PM
Jayson 'Captain Caveman' Werth, going for a Jonny Damon impression. :laugh:

I think he's going for a Geico commercial myself. :)

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:14 PM
Walk to Nady. Latos at 69 pitches.

dunner13
04-12-2012, 02:14 PM
wow that was a horrible call by the ump, obviously a strike

kbrake
04-12-2012, 02:14 PM
Awful call.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:15 PM
wow that was a horrible call by the ump, obviously a strike

The Cowboy thinks he's getting squeezed. I can't see the game so I don't know.

dunner13
04-12-2012, 02:15 PM
The Cowboy thinks he's getting squeezed. I can't see the game so I don't know.

seriously squeezed

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:16 PM
Bernadina LO to LF to end the Nats 4th. No score

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:20 PM
Zim makes a diving catch to rob Ludrock of a hit.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:21 PM
Valdez GO, Two away

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:21 PM
Mez doubles into the gap.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:23 PM
Latos K's. Half through this one and there's no score.

Caveman Techie
04-12-2012, 02:23 PM
Mez doubles into the gap.

You guys are better than ESPN Gamecast. I get the updates from you about 1-2 minutes before gamecast does.

dunner13
04-12-2012, 02:23 PM
latos k's on a pitch at his ankles, apparently the ump is a big Nats fan

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 02:26 PM
latos k's on a pitch at his ankles, apparently the ump is a big Nats fan

It was actually a perfect strike. Outer half, knee high.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:27 PM
Gio singles on a jam shot into LF. 1st big league hit according to the cowboy.

dunner13
04-12-2012, 02:28 PM
It was actually a perfect strike. Outer half, knee high.

my bad, i saw a quick replay of a pitch and assumed it was strike 3 called, guess it wasnt

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:31 PM
Desmond singles. Nats first real threat of the day.

Degenerate39
04-12-2012, 02:31 PM
Is it just me or does it look like Latos struggles when he gets 2 strikes?

BoydsOfSummer
04-12-2012, 02:32 PM
Latos with 16/20 firstr pitch strikes.

kbrake
04-12-2012, 02:33 PM
Is it just me or does it look like Latos struggles when he gets 2 strikes?

I just don't think he's all that sharp yet.

Caveat Emperor
04-12-2012, 02:36 PM
How do you walk the guy ahead of the only real frightening bat in the National's lineup.

Throw the guy a strike.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:36 PM
A walk and the bases are juiced for Zimmerman. Oh boy....

CySeymour
04-12-2012, 02:36 PM
uh oh

Tom Servo
04-12-2012, 02:36 PM
rut roh

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:37 PM
A nice 4-6-3 would be in order here.

The Operator
04-12-2012, 02:40 PM
Cozart can play! Wow

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:40 PM
Cozart guns down the runner at home. Two away. Good instinct play by Cozart.

MasonBuzz3
04-12-2012, 02:41 PM
great play by Cozart to get the lead runner

cumberlandreds
04-12-2012, 02:41 PM
I'm going to have to go. Sorry to leave at a bad time but work calls before I go home. Bring home a winner RZ.

Tom Servo
04-12-2012, 02:41 PM
thanks for the PBP while you could do it, cumberlandreds. :beerme:

CySeymour
04-12-2012, 02:42 PM
Guess it was lucky it was the pitcher running from third

The Operator
04-12-2012, 02:42 PM
Crap

Caveat Emperor
04-12-2012, 02:42 PM
Another disappointing effort from Latos today. Didn't have a "put away" pitch that he could throw when he needed to.

klw
04-12-2012, 02:43 PM
ball game

The Operator
04-12-2012, 02:44 PM
Another disappointing effort from Latos today.He has historically been bad in April, but this is still not something you want to see from a guy who is supposed to be a TOR type arm.

This is very similar to his first outing. He did okay for about 4 innings, comes unglued in the 5th. Is his stamina just not up to par?

kbrake
04-12-2012, 02:44 PM
This team outside of a few guys has been disappointing all together since Opening Day.

Reds/Flyers Fan
04-12-2012, 02:45 PM
Another disappointing effort from Latos today. Didn't have a "put away" pitch that he could throw when he needed to.

Another disappointing game from this "offense." Latos had to toss the shutout to get a win today.

Ballgame.

Caveat Emperor
04-12-2012, 02:45 PM
He has historically been bad in April, but this is still not something you want to see from a guy who is supposed to be a TOR type arm.

This is very similar to his first outing. He did okay for about 4 innings, comes unglued in the 5th. Is his stamina just not up to par?

He's pitch inefficient and takes mental vacations against hitters he needs to dominate.

Bad trend, but it is only two games.

The offense needs to give him support too. Watching this team try to hit right now is pathetic.

The Operator
04-12-2012, 02:45 PM
Well the inning is finally mercifully over. And the game probably is as well, since I don't see this offense scoring 2 runs, much less 3.

Tom Servo
04-12-2012, 02:45 PM
Man, you guys are negative. Another 4 innings and we just need a bloop and a blast.

RollyInRaleigh
04-12-2012, 02:46 PM
Hey, it's just the top of the 6th.

CySeymour
04-12-2012, 02:47 PM
He's allowed 2 runs through 5 innings and you all are acting like he's the worst pitcher since Jeff Austin.

kbrake
04-12-2012, 02:47 PM
Man, you guys are negative. Another 4 innings and we just need a bloop and a blast.

I'm not trying to be negative I certainly don't think this one is over I just don't think as a team they have played very well since Opening Day.

The Operator
04-12-2012, 02:47 PM
Man, you guys are negative. Another 4 innings and we just need a bloop and a blast.Have you watched this offense lately? I'd be shocked if they get 3 hits the rest of the game, much less 3 runs. They are that bad right now. I know they'll come around eventually, but right now they're terrible, sans a few guys.

The Operator
04-12-2012, 02:48 PM
He's allowed 2 runs through 5 innings and you all are acting like he's the worst pitcher since Jeff Austin.It's not an outing you'd expect from a #1 stater, which is what he's supposed to be for us.

Caveat Emperor
04-12-2012, 02:48 PM
Man, you guys are negative. Another 4 innings and we just need a bloop and a blast.

If I wanted to watch a pitcher nibble at the corners, issue walks and give up base hits to pitchers and C-level major leaguers, I can fire up YouTube and search for clips of Jose Acevedo.

Mat Latos needs to be better than this if the team wants any shot of competing.

And the offense is just putrid right now.

Caveat Emperor
04-12-2012, 02:49 PM
He's allowed 2 runs through 5 innings and you all are acting like he's the worst pitcher since Jeff Austin.

Also threw close to 100 pitches through 5 and labored through virtually every AB. Awful outing for a guy that's allegedly a TOR starter.

Reds/Flyers Fan
04-12-2012, 02:49 PM
This team needs a legitimate No. 4 hitter.

kbrake
04-12-2012, 02:49 PM
Jeff Austin and Jose Acevedo references, things must be going swell.

CySeymour
04-12-2012, 02:50 PM
It's not an outing you'd expect from a #1 stater, which is what he's supposed to be for us.

Dude if you are expecting a shutout everytime he pitches, you are gonna be in for a long season. Not even Halladay does that.

kbrake
04-12-2012, 02:50 PM
This team needs a legitimate No. 4 hitter.

They have one. He hits 5th.

CySeymour
04-12-2012, 02:50 PM
This team needs a legitimate No. 4 hitter.

They do...he's hitting 5th.

klw
04-12-2012, 02:51 PM
The work I saw (not the whole game by any stretch of the imagination) by Latos was actually impressive. He was not able to locate his breaking ball anywhere but the dirt but still was getting guys out with not much more than a fastball. Somedays it is a struggle and he did lose so time late in spring training so I thought given what it looked like he had today, he equipped himself well.

MikeS21
04-12-2012, 02:51 PM
They do...he's hitting 5th.
No, actually, he's batting 3rd ... in Texas.

The Operator
04-12-2012, 02:52 PM
Dude if you are expecting a shutout everytime he pitches, you are gonna be in for a long season. Not even Halladay does that.No, but Roy Halladay doesn't nibble at the corners and throw 100 pitches in 5 innings.

I'm not expecting Mat Latos to be the best pitches in the league. But in his first 2 starts he's looked nothing like a top of the rotation guy. I'm confident that he'll get it together, but as of now, he's looked bad. No way around that. Just calling it like it is.

Tom Servo
04-12-2012, 02:52 PM
No, actually, he's batting 3rd ... in Texas.
http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/jfa2492l.jpg

kbrake
04-12-2012, 02:53 PM
No, but Roy Halladay doesn't nibble at the corners and throw 100 pitches in 5 innings.

I'm not expecting Mat Latos to be the best pitches in the league. But in his first 2 starts he's looked nothing like a top of the rotation guy. I'm confident that he'll get it together, but as of now, he's looked bad. No way around that. Just calling it like it is.

I don't think Latos is nibbling I just don't think he has found any command yet. It will come. I find the offense way more frustrating.

CySeymour
04-12-2012, 02:54 PM
No, but Roy Halladay doesn't nibble at the corners and throw 100 pitches in 5 innings.

I'm not expecting Mat Latos to be the best pitches in the league. But in his first 2 starts he's looked nothing like a top of the rotation guy. I'm confident that he'll get it together, but as of now, he's looked bad. No way around that. Just calling it like it is.

Maybe, but I'll take 2 runs allowed in 5 innings. Now if you want to start talking about the hitters, then that's different....

brad1176
04-12-2012, 02:55 PM
Lecure on to pitch.

Caveat Emperor
04-12-2012, 02:55 PM
Maybe, but I'll take 2 runs allowed in 5 innings. Now if you want to start talking about the hitters, then that's different....

Depleted bullpen being asked to carry a lot of innings early in the year. The rotation is loaded with guys who should be pitching 7 innings per start. 5 IP is unacceptable, especially with a 4 game series starting and coming off 5 straight with no off day.

kaldaniels
04-12-2012, 02:58 PM
I'm not thrilled with Latos' outing, but unacceptable? Let's not forget where today's finger of blame needs to be pointing, the offense.

Mr 225 Million is 0-3. Unacceptable!

brad1176
04-12-2012, 02:59 PM
Going to top of the 7th, still 2-0 Nats.

kbrake
04-12-2012, 03:00 PM
Grandpa Scott with another weak AB. Thank god we split up the lefties.

The Operator
04-12-2012, 03:01 PM
Grandpa Scott with another weak AB. Thank god we split up the lefties.My Kingdom for a true right-handed middle of the order bat. Is it that hard to find?

brad1176
04-12-2012, 03:03 PM
Gio making it look easy, two down.

brad1176
04-12-2012, 03:05 PM
And Ludwick K's.

CySeymour
04-12-2012, 03:06 PM
So why is a better option against LHP then Frazier?

klw
04-12-2012, 03:09 PM
Gio out for a PH

mbgrayson
04-12-2012, 03:10 PM
Gio out for a PH

Now all the Reds have to do is score some runs against Tyler Clippard and Henry Rodriguez....

Tom Servo
04-12-2012, 03:10 PM
Gio out for a PH
M. Bison "Yes Yes!" Widescreen HD reupload - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs)

brad1176
04-12-2012, 03:13 PM
One down.

brad1176
04-12-2012, 03:14 PM
Two down.

brad1176
04-12-2012, 03:15 PM
That's it for the 7th, still 2-0 Nats.

klw
04-12-2012, 03:15 PM
Nice work by Lecure, on to the 8th

brad1176
04-12-2012, 03:16 PM
Tylar Clippard on for the Nats.

RollyInRaleigh
04-12-2012, 03:17 PM
I'm not thrilled with Latos' outing, but unacceptable? Let's not forget where today's finger of blame needs to be pointing, the offense.

Mr 225 Million is 0-3. Unacceptable!



:rolleyes:

RichRed
04-12-2012, 03:17 PM
Who's due up for the Reds...Castro, Womack, and McCracken?

brad1176
04-12-2012, 03:18 PM
Who's due up for the Reds...Castro, Womack, and McCracken?

:lol:

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 03:19 PM
Wow...I go away and the offense is still well....terrible.

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 03:19 PM
What a steal the Nats got to get Clippard

MikeS21
04-12-2012, 03:20 PM
Hey, a 2-2 count. We got a rally going on!

kbrake
04-12-2012, 03:20 PM
Give that man a statue out front.

Homer Bailey
04-12-2012, 03:20 PM
Reds win 3-2 woohoo have a good day everyone ok thanks bye.

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 03:21 PM
Double for Wilson....let's go Mez...Blasty time!

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 03:22 PM
Mez looks very comfy at the dish to me.

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 03:23 PM
Mez looks very comfy at the dish to me.

Whoah! That was one he would like back.

VR
04-12-2012, 03:23 PM
Hey, a 2-2 count. We got a rally going on!

That was fantastic. Well done Mike.

Homer Bailey
04-12-2012, 03:23 PM
How is the Reds bullpen quiet with Lecure on deck?

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 03:23 PM
How is the Reds bullpen quiet with Lecure on deck?

Arrendondo up

Homer Bailey
04-12-2012, 03:24 PM
Arrendondo up

Ok. Marty was wrong then.

kbrake
04-12-2012, 03:24 PM
Well at least I know Mes is just as unhappy as most of us.

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 03:24 PM
Pop up to right. 1 down. Wilson Valdez on 2nd still.

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 03:24 PM
Heisey PH here.

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 03:25 PM
Man...if Latos got these calls...whole different game for sure.

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 03:25 PM
Chris is looking not comfy out there.

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 03:26 PM
Chris is looking not comfy out there.

And he Stubbs' at an off speed pitch.

Playadlc
04-12-2012, 03:27 PM
Wow this is a wide zone.

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 03:27 PM
Drew looks at 2 perfect strikes

Caveat Emperor
04-12-2012, 03:27 PM
Ok. Marty was wrong then.

Supposing that Bailey bombs out of the rotation, and is let go from the Reds next year -- at what point does your username take on the same humor level as Danny Serafini?

kbrake
04-12-2012, 03:28 PM
Supposing that Bailey bombs out of the rotation, and is let go from the Reds next year -- at what point does your username take on the same humor level as Danny Serafini?

You crashing the DMB site?

GAC
04-12-2012, 03:28 PM
Offense has really been struggling to start the season - Wow!

GAC
04-12-2012, 03:28 PM
Bye Bye Drew Big K

kbrake
04-12-2012, 03:29 PM
Love the AB's where Stubb's just stares at everything. Those are the best.

GAC
04-12-2012, 03:29 PM
Like a deer in the headlights

cbowen2112
04-12-2012, 03:29 PM
I can't believe the amount of high strikes being called for one side and not us. We are doomed in this game/series if this continues. We are not out of it here, but man oh man, I am tired of late inning rallies already.

MikeS21
04-12-2012, 03:30 PM
Like a deer in the headlights
Like the Big Klu statue going into the stadium ... Looks good, but ineffective.

brad1176
04-12-2012, 03:30 PM
It's their home opener, they're going to get calls and we're going to get squeezed.

Homer Bailey
04-12-2012, 03:31 PM
Supposing that Bailey bombs out of the rotation, and is let go from the Reds next year -- at what point does your username take on the same humor level as Danny Serafini?

I've never been crazy about my user name. I'm a Bailey fan, but far from his biggest fan. I can't even recall why I made it this almost 6 years ago.

Caveat Emperor
04-12-2012, 03:32 PM
You crashing the DMB site?

Absolutely.

I can't wait for Ants to meltdown in anticipation of album details only for the website to come back offering new shirts for sale or something stupid. ;)

kbrake
04-12-2012, 03:33 PM
Absolutely.

I can't wait for Ants to meltdown in anticipation of album details only for the website to come back offering new shirts for sale or something stupid. ;)

The Ants thread is so entertaining its helping to take away from the misery of this game. Not a member there but I love following on days like this haha. This is great.

brad1176
04-12-2012, 03:37 PM
Going to the top of the 9th, last chance.

MikeS21
04-12-2012, 03:38 PM
Need some runs here, guys.

Caveat Emperor
04-12-2012, 03:38 PM
The Ants thread is so entertaining its helping to take away from the misery of this game. Not a member there but I love following on days like this haha. This is great.

I can't stand it over there. I'm on TDC these days. It's much more entertaining.

CrackerJack
04-12-2012, 03:42 PM
Votto needs to go 4-5 every night in order to win

MikeS21
04-12-2012, 03:42 PM
THAT was a questionable called strike.

Playadlc
04-12-2012, 03:45 PM
Nice!

Got a shot here.

kbrake
04-12-2012, 03:45 PM
Look at that cleanup hitter. Dusty is brilliant!

HotCorner
04-12-2012, 03:45 PM
Deep breathe.

durl
04-12-2012, 03:45 PM
How did Votto not score there??

GAC
04-12-2012, 03:46 PM
Alright - guys on 2nd and 3rd, one out, lets go!!!!!!

CTA513
04-12-2012, 03:46 PM
Injuries have really taken some MPH off Lidges fastball.

HotCorner
04-12-2012, 03:46 PM
Oh lord. Ludwick up with the bases loaded. Dude it's your time.

kbrake
04-12-2012, 03:47 PM
Ludwick with a chance to be a hero or the 2012 Redszone Juan Castro.

brad1176
04-12-2012, 03:47 PM
C'mon Ryan!!!

Playadlc
04-12-2012, 03:48 PM
God dang it, Ryan. Stop swinging at pitches in the dirt

GAC
04-12-2012, 03:49 PM
TIE GAME!!!!!

kbrake
04-12-2012, 03:49 PM
Not a great day for Zimmerman down there today.

HotCorner
04-12-2012, 03:49 PM
Thank you Ludwick ... and Zimmerman!

brad1176
04-12-2012, 03:49 PM
HOLY SCHNIKE'S!!!

redsmetz
04-12-2012, 03:49 PM
Need some runs here, guys.

As you wish.

Playadlc
04-12-2012, 03:50 PM
Really like Mes in this spot.

MikeS21
04-12-2012, 03:50 PM
As you wish.
It ain't pretty, but it works!

HotCorner
04-12-2012, 03:50 PM
This from the Reds twitter prior to Ludwick's hit ...



Bases loaded, 1 out for Ludwick, who is 0-for-9 with 5 strikeouts vs Lidge career.

durl
04-12-2012, 03:50 PM
Ludwick must've sensed that "Castro" comment. :-)

CySeymour
04-12-2012, 03:51 PM
Ludwick must've sensed that "Castro" comment. :-)

I am sure it weighed on him :D

Tom Servo
04-12-2012, 03:51 PM
And you guys said it was over in the 5th. :)

MikeS21
04-12-2012, 03:53 PM
Hold 'em here, scrape up one more run, and give it to Marshall.

WildcatFan
04-12-2012, 03:53 PM
I'm here guys, did I miss anything?

brad1176
04-12-2012, 03:54 PM
I'm here guys, did I miss anything?

Not until just now!

brad1176
04-12-2012, 03:55 PM
Crap. Ramos doubles.

brad1176
04-12-2012, 03:56 PM
Mark DeRosa is still playing?

CySeymour
04-12-2012, 03:57 PM
wouldn't this be a great spot to bring in Marshall?

RedEye
04-12-2012, 03:58 PM
wouldn't this be a great spot to bring in Marshall?

A thousand times YES!

brad1176
04-12-2012, 03:58 PM
Four pitch walk to DeRosa?? Please tell me that was intentional.

WildcatFan
04-12-2012, 03:58 PM
Cowboy said Bruce just ran over to center field and took Stubbs's sunglasses from him. That's hilarious.

Also throw a dang strike.

kbrake
04-12-2012, 03:59 PM
This guys zone has been all over the place.

MikeS21
04-12-2012, 03:59 PM
wouldn't this be a great spot to bring in Marshall?
Not really. You would have to pinch hit for him and he would be unavailable to close it out.

CySeymour
04-12-2012, 04:00 PM
Not really. You would have to pinch hit for him and he would be unavailable to close it out.

but if the Nats score, there wouldn't be anything to close.

Tom Servo
04-12-2012, 04:00 PM
ugh

MikeS21
04-12-2012, 04:01 PM
Cannot believe the inconsistencies of the strike zone.

brad1176
04-12-2012, 04:01 PM
Not good.

Playadlc
04-12-2012, 04:02 PM
DP!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOHOOO!

HotCorner
04-12-2012, 04:02 PM
Sweet DP!

kbrake
04-12-2012, 04:02 PM
Regardless of this the offense has to get better and the SP has to go deeper. This pen is going to get killed.

brad1176
04-12-2012, 04:02 PM
YESSSSS!!!

Danny Serafini
04-12-2012, 04:02 PM
1-2-3 DP, nice escape

HotCorner
04-12-2012, 04:02 PM
1-2-3 DP

Playadlc
04-12-2012, 04:02 PM
Great play by Mes there considering the bad throw he got.

WildcatFan
04-12-2012, 04:02 PM
FYI, looks like they're gonna be broadcasting most of the game blackout free here:

http://sports.yahoo.com/full-count/?href=3

Tom Servo
04-12-2012, 04:03 PM
That was all part of Arredondo's plan.

Oxilon
04-12-2012, 04:03 PM
Wow. Better to be lucky than good.