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TOBTTReds
04-21-2012, 10:18 AM
Lineups:

Reds
Cozart
Stubbs
Votto
Phillips
Ludwick
Rolen
Heisey - 9
Mesoraco
Leake


Bruce out, 45 degrees, wind not reported yet. Nice to see Mes get back to back starts.

Leake with Mes as the catcher this year pitched 6 ip, 7 h, 3 er, 1 bb, 4 k
For his career, he's pitched to Mes three times for a line of 23 ip, 16 h, 6 runs (all earned), 3 bb, 12 k, 2.35 era, .203 Avg Against
For what it's worth, which is very little considering it's just three games, Leake has pitched much better with Mes behind the dish than Hanigan, and of course Ramon Hernandez (I don't think any pitcher last year pitched better with Hernandez catching, literally. Enought about him though).

Let's pick up another W and extend this massive win streak!

smith288
04-21-2012, 10:43 AM
Go Reds!

powersackers
04-21-2012, 11:09 AM
Bruce usually doesn't get days off or need them necessarily. What gives?

TOBTTReds
04-21-2012, 11:41 AM
Bruce usually doesn't get days off or need them necessarily. What gives?

He's been bad against Maholm. Also, I'd say Heisey and Ludwick both deserve a start...jmho

mth123
04-21-2012, 12:05 PM
Not a bad line-up against the lefty. I'd probably move Mes to 6th and drop Rolen and Heisey each down a spot. I hope Phillips is OK.

dougdirt
04-21-2012, 01:06 PM
I am predicting a win and a good start of 7 innings for Leake.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:07 PM
Cozart doubles down the left field line

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:09 PM
Stubbs grounds out to 2nd. Cozart to 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:11 PM
Votto walks. 1st and 3rd.

mth123
04-21-2012, 01:12 PM
OK Phillips. Lets go.

mth123
04-21-2012, 01:12 PM
1-0

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:12 PM
Phillips lines a single to left center. 1-0 Reds. 1st and 2nd.

RBA
04-21-2012, 01:13 PM
GAME is on WGN also.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:16 PM
Ludwick chases a low outside pitch and strikes out swinging.

Vottomatic
04-21-2012, 01:17 PM
Cozart doubles and Stubbs does the right thing and grounds to the right side to get him over to 3rd. I've noticed in the last few games they are doing more of the little things to manufacture runs, which is nice to see.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:18 PM
Rolen strikes out swinging. 1-0 Reds mid 1st.

Vottomatic
04-21-2012, 01:19 PM
Rolen and Ludwick making Maholm look like Verlander.

mth123
04-21-2012, 01:19 PM
Horrible swing on strike 3 from Rolen. He was either really fooled or he's hurtin'.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:22 PM
DeJesus lines a single off Votto's glove

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:23 PM
Barney lines a single to center.1st and 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:24 PM
Castro pops out to 2nd. 1 out.

mth123
04-21-2012, 01:24 PM
Big out

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:25 PM
LaHair sac fly to center. Tie game 1-1.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:29 PM
Stewart strikes out swinging. 1-1 after 1.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:32 PM
Heisey flies out to center.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:33 PM
Mesoraco lines out to center. 2 outs.

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 01:33 PM
Heisey and Mez both hit the ball well, but right to CF Mather. :(

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:35 PM
Leake strikes out swinging. 1-1 mid 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:38 PM
Clevenger singles to right.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:39 PM
DeWitt grounds out to Leake. Runner to 2nd. 1 out.

mth123
04-21-2012, 01:42 PM
Dang

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:42 PM
Mather lines a double to left center. 2-1 Cubs

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 01:43 PM
Argh. Clevenger and Mather...

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:43 PM
Now Leake attempts a pickoff at 2nd and throws it away. Runner to 3rd.

dougdirt
04-21-2012, 01:43 PM
I am predicting a win and a good start of 7 innings for Leake.

I take it back. /unjinx

jojo
04-21-2012, 01:44 PM
Not sure how Leake paints the corner twice in a row and then underhands one down the middle...

redsfaninbsg
04-21-2012, 01:44 PM
Leake is not on his A game in this one.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:45 PM
Maholm strikes out looking. 2 Ks for Leake. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:46 PM
DeJesus lines a single to center. 3-1 Cubs.

RedsManRick
04-21-2012, 01:47 PM
Man, Leake isn't fooling anybody. They're just smoking the ball off him.

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 01:47 PM
Not good.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:47 PM
Batting practice. Barney lines a double to left. 4-1 Cubs.

jojo
04-21-2012, 01:48 PM
Who wouldn't want to hold their Bachelorette party in a bleacher on top of a rooftop?

mth123
04-21-2012, 01:48 PM
Ludwick looked awful there.

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 01:49 PM
I wouldn't be too upset with a struggling start from Leake but man, this is the Cubs. If you can't get them out, who can you get out?

Nasty_Boy
04-21-2012, 01:49 PM
Leake is not on his A game in this one.

He hasn't looked sharp in any of his outings this season. He's letting this game get away from him in a hurry!

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:49 PM
Castro triples off the wall in left. Ludwick was totally lost on that one. 5-1 Cubs.

RedsManRick
04-21-2012, 01:49 PM
He's throwing almost all sinkers and cutters -- all between 84 & 88. How about something to change their bat speed? Where's Mes on this one?

dougdirt
04-21-2012, 01:49 PM
Mike Leake is missing his spots today, big time.

April hasn't been his strongest month in his career.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:50 PM
LaHair flies out to left. 5-1 Cubs after 2.

RedsManRick
04-21-2012, 01:50 PM
I wish Homer Bailey was as good as Mike Leake. :evil:

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 01:51 PM
Gonna need to start putting up some more runs.

mth123
04-21-2012, 01:51 PM
Gonna need to start putting up some more runs.

Yep. Bad starts happen. Win anyway.

jojo
04-21-2012, 01:52 PM
The Reds are in serious trouble.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:53 PM
Cozart strikes out swinging.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:55 PM
Stubbs flies out to center. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 01:56 PM
Votto flies out to left. 5-1 Cubs mid 3rd.

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 01:57 PM
By this time in his other starts, the Brewers and Cardinals had both put up 6 runs against Maholm.

dougdirt
04-21-2012, 01:57 PM
The sky is falling!

jojo
04-21-2012, 01:59 PM
The sky is falling!

No. Thats just all of the flyballs Leake is giving up... ;)

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:00 PM
Stewart grounds out to 1st.
Clevenger flies out to the track in right.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:01 PM
DeWitt flies out to center. 5-1 Cubs after 3.

757690
04-21-2012, 02:01 PM
I wish Homer Bailey was as good as Mike Leake. :evil:

I'll give Homer credit for a strong outing yesterday, but let's not overlook that he got hit just as hard as Leake is getting hit today.

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:02 PM
The Reds need to trade Leake for Miguel Olivo. There's needs to be some accountability in the Reds clubhouse.

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 02:04 PM
Alright, BP on to start. Let's get runs! Let's get runs!

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:04 PM
Phillips reaches on an error by Castro.

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:04 PM
I'll give Homer credit for a strong outing yesterday, but let's not overlook that he got hit just as hard as Leake is getting hit today.

All kidding aside, I don't think Homer's performance yesterday is a road map for his long term success.

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:05 PM
Ouch...Phillips just doesn't look good running.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:05 PM
Ludwick flies out to right.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:07 PM
Rolen grounds into a 6-4 FC as Castro makes a diving stop.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:08 PM
Heisey doubles to left. 2nd and 3rd.

mth123
04-21-2012, 02:08 PM
Now lets see Mes come up big.

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 02:08 PM
Now lets see Mes come up big.
Won't have the chance. :(

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:08 PM
If Phillips could run, the Reds would've just scored a run....

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:08 PM
Mesoraco intentional walk. Bases loaded for Leake

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 02:09 PM
:(

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:10 PM
Leake grounds into a FC at 3rd. 5-1 Cubs mid 4th.

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:10 PM
Leake looked lost with his lumber....

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:11 PM
There was a great gnashing of teeth over the Reds disappointing offensive slump to begin the year but the biggest worry right now has to be over Phillips' hammy.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:12 PM
Mather grounds out to Leake.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:13 PM
Maholm strikes out swinging.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:14 PM
DeJesus pops out. 5-1 Cubs after 4.

mth123
04-21-2012, 02:15 PM
OK. Third time through the order. Time to zero in.

Plus Plus
04-21-2012, 02:15 PM
Nice recovery in the last couple of innings for Leake.

757690
04-21-2012, 02:16 PM
Not sure if it's been reported, but the according to numerous reports, The Cubs are on the verge of sending Marlon Byrd to the Red Sox.

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:16 PM
Leake's retired seven straight and had his way with one bat since the Castro triple.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:17 PM
Cozart grounds out to 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:18 PM
2nd error of the day by Castro

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:18 PM
Not sure if it's been reported, but the according to numerous reports, The Cubs are on the verge of sending Marlon Byrd to the Red Sox.

The BoSox are desperate for bodies that can play the outfield...guess this is a nobrainer.

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 02:18 PM
Could go for an RBI here from the $200 Million Dollar Man.

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 02:20 PM
Same old Reds getting picked off. :thumbdown:

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:20 PM
Stubbs gets picked off at 1st.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:21 PM
Votto strikes out swinging. 5-1 Cubs mid 5th.

Playadlc
04-21-2012, 02:21 PM
Votto takes such defensive swings at times.

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:22 PM
That ended alot quicker than I thought it would...

mth123
04-21-2012, 02:23 PM
Same old Reds getting picked off. :thumbdown:

Wth Votto up. That's why I like Stubbs down in the order. If you are going to take a chance on the bases, do it front of guys like Rolen who need all the help they can get in getting guys around.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:24 PM
Barney flies out to right.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:26 PM
Heisey makes a diving try but Castro doubles to right.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:31 PM
LaHair walks. 1st and 2nd.

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 02:32 PM
Lucky break there.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:33 PM
Stewart lines into a 4-3 DP. 5-1 Cubs after 5.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:35 PM
Phillips grounds out to 2nd on the first pitch

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:36 PM
Ludwick grounds out ot short. 2 outs.

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 02:36 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzz

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:38 PM
Rolen singles to center.

powersackers
04-21-2012, 02:38 PM
Just bought the Tapatalk app for this forum. Works great.

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Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 02:40 PM
Alright now Mes gets his chance.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:40 PM
Heisey walks. 1st and 2nd.

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 02:42 PM
:(

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:42 PM
Mesoraco grounds into a 6-4 FC. 5-1Cubs mid 6th.

Reds/Flyers Fan
04-21-2012, 02:42 PM
Pitiful.

Add Paul Maholm to the list of Cy Youngs the 1-run Reds can't hit.

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:42 PM
<<<<<---------playing doomsayer for a moment.

With a loss today, the rubber match is tomorrow. Lose it and despite the jubilation last night about how the ship has been righted, the Reds would have lost their fourth series in a row....

powersackers
04-21-2012, 02:43 PM
:(

Keep getting on base... good things will come

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Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 02:43 PM
<<<<<---------playing doomsayer for a moment.

With a loss today, the rubber match is tomorrow. Lose it and despite the jubilation last night about how the ship has been righted, the Reds would have lost their fourth series in a row....
Indeed. At a certain point, you have to start winning series.

Reds/Flyers Fan
04-21-2012, 02:44 PM
<<<<<---------playing doomsayer for a moment.

With a loss today, the rubber match is tomorrow. Lose it and despite the jubilation last night about how the ship has been righted, the Reds would have lost their fourth series in a row....

But this would be to a AA/AAA team that had won only 3 games all year. That would erase the excuse that the reds have faced only the best teams so far.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:44 PM
Clevenger singles to center.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:45 PM
DeWitt flies out to center. 1 out.

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:45 PM
I thought Stubbs had a chance on Clevenger's single.

Plus Plus
04-21-2012, 02:46 PM
Pitiful.

Add Paul Maholm to the list of Cy Youngs the 1-run Reds can't hit.

What list is Adam Wainwright on? The list of guys who have actually won Cy Young awards and lost to the Reds?

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:46 PM
Mather flies out to center. 2 outs.

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:47 PM
Nice catch by Stubbs.

Reds/Flyers Fan
04-21-2012, 02:47 PM
What list is Adam Wainwright on? The list of guys who have actually won Cy Young awards and lost to the Reds?

0-3 and coming off major surgery, pitching for an offensive juggernaut.

He's not exactly Justin Verlander.

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:47 PM
Clevenger seems like a guy who knows his limitations.

powersackers
04-21-2012, 02:47 PM
Love seeing Tony play

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Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:48 PM
Campana pinch hits and singles to center. 1st and 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:48 PM
Ondrusek in to pitch

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:48 PM
Stubbs might touch every ball this inning.....

mth123
04-21-2012, 02:49 PM
I thought Stubbs had a chance on Clevenger's single.

He pulls up and plays it on the bounce a lot IMO. I'm not sold on UZR, but Stubbs grades out below average defensively in spite of being good at everything out there. If he'd turn some of those into outs...

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:49 PM
I wonder if Ondrusek can dunk.

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 02:50 PM
I wonder if Ondrusek can dunk.
I wonder if Ondrusek's friends call him Ondrunksek when he drinks.

Plus Plus
04-21-2012, 02:50 PM
0-3 and coming off major surgery, pitching for an offensive juggernaut.

He's not exactly Justin Verlander.

Reds beat a guy with a full trophy case? Belittle their accomplishment.

Reds get 9 baserunners, strand 7, and hit rockets that are outs? Cy Maholm.

I am frustrated too, but I think that you need to at least acknowledge that this team isn't the beginning of Major League (the movie) level bad.

powersackers
04-21-2012, 02:50 PM
He pulls up and plays it on the bounce a lot IMO. I'm not sold on UZR, but Stubbs grades out below average defensively in spite of being good at everything out there. If he'd turn some of those into outs...

Or turn them into triples...

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:51 PM
He pulls up and plays it on the bounce a lot IMO. I'm not sold on UZR, but Stubbs grades out below average defensively in spite of being good at everything out there. If he'd turn some of those into outs...

Watching Stubbs and you just think, he's a good defender. But watching him play defense often you think, "I thought he was going to get that"...

I never thought that when watching Cameron and have never thought that watching FG.... Scouts may love Stubbs but I think UZR truly understands Stubbs.

mth123
04-21-2012, 02:52 PM
Or turn them into triples...

Meh. I'd risk a triple every now and then to record several more outs. I think he'd catch most of them if he just took one more step.

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:53 PM
I wonder if Ondrusek's friends call him Ondrunksek when he drinks.

I see what you did there.... :D

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:53 PM
DeJesus grounds out to 1st. 5-1 Cubs after 6.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:55 PM
James Russell in to pitch

Frazier pinch hitting

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 02:56 PM
lol Campana

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:56 PM
Campana loses the ball in the sun and Frazier is on 2nd.

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:58 PM
You don't see that very often...

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 02:59 PM
Okay now we're talkin

jojo
04-21-2012, 02:59 PM
Jeeps if Campana really wanted to be a major leaguer, he would've gave up his body for that one.... if you aint bloody, you didn't try hard enough....

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 02:59 PM
Cozart doubles off Campana's glove. Frazier had to hold up to see if it was caught. 2nd and 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:00 PM
Stubbs hit it hard but lines out to short.

jojo
04-21-2012, 03:02 PM
Stubbs hit it hard but lines out to short.

Well at least Stubbs can't get picked off of first in front of Votto again...

Hollcat
04-21-2012, 03:03 PM
We need two runs here

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 03:03 PM
Disappointing.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:03 PM
Votto strikes out swinging.

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 03:08 PM
2nd and 3rd, no outs. No runs scored. Not completely unexpected.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:09 PM
Phillips flies out to right. 5-1 Cubs mid 7th

jojo
04-21-2012, 03:10 PM
Jeeps, pander much Dan Patrick?

Strikes Out Looking
04-21-2012, 03:10 PM
Dan Pugh from Dayton, Ohio should not be singing take me out to the ball game in full Cubs regalia.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:12 PM
Simon in to pitch.

Barney singles to center

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:13 PM
Wow. Rolen attempts an under handed toss to 2nd and throws it over Valdez who is now in at 2nd.

jojo
04-21-2012, 03:14 PM
This game has been a bit like running in waist deep water..... I wonder if the cold weather is making the muscles a little tighter...

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:14 PM
LaHair strikes out swinging.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:17 PM
Stewart pops out to short. 2 outs.

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 03:18 PM
Cubs can score runs when they're not even really trying.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:18 PM
Clevenger singles to right. 6-1 Cubs. Clevenger is then out as he rounds first too far.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:20 PM
Rafael Dolis in to pitch

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:22 PM
4 pitch walk to Ludwick

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:24 PM
Rolen grounds into a 4-6 FC.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:26 PM
Heisey grounds into a FC at short. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:28 PM
Mesoraco grounds into a 5-4 FC. 6-1 Cubs mid 8th

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:31 PM
Reed Johnson pinch hits and doubles to left.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:31 PM
Mather with a bunt single. 1st and 3rd.

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 03:33 PM
I've had about enough of Alfredo Simon.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:34 PM
Campana strikes out swinging.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:35 PM
DeJesus pops out to short. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:37 PM
Barney is hit in the helmet by the pitch

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:39 PM
Castro grounds into a 5-4 FC. 6-1 Cubs after 8.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:41 PM
Marmol in to pitch

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 03:42 PM
I've seen about enough of Wilson Valdez.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:42 PM
Valdez strikes out. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:44 PM
Cozart fouls out to 1st.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2012, 03:45 PM
Stubbs flies out to right. Reds lose 6-1.

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 03:46 PM
And the hope of ending the road trip at .500 dies. Gotta win tomorrow.

Tom Servo
04-21-2012, 03:46 PM
Holy hell, that song played after the Cubs win is horrendous.

jojo
04-21-2012, 03:47 PM
Well go get them tomorrow. The fate of the season will likely rest upon the outcome.

GAC
04-21-2012, 03:51 PM
My Gawd! You're facing a pitcher (Maholm) who has struggled mightily his first two starts, lasted only 4 innings in each, and has an ERA of 13.5 coming in.... and you can't get jack against him. LOL

MikeS21
04-21-2012, 05:18 PM
Guess the Reds used up their quota of games for the next couple weeks, where they actually score more than one run.

traderumor
04-21-2012, 07:57 PM
My Gawd! You're facing a pitcher (Maholm) who has struggled mightily his first two starts, lasted only 4 innings in each, and has an ERA of 13.5 coming in.... and you can't get jack against him. LOLThey had him on the ropes early, too many at 'em balls that kept them from cashing in. Maholm is good enough to pitch good against anyone, back to back bad starts doesn't mean he's an awful pitcher, but a soft tossing lefty always has a better than most chance against this squad. Just a type they struggle with.