4-26-2012 Reds vs Giants Break out the Brooms

[cumberlandreds]

Here is the Reds lineup via baseballpress.com. Grandpa Rolen gets the day off and Cozart is back. I guess he's old enough to hit against Vogelsong?

I won't be around as usual for a weekday afternoon game. Work gets in the way today. Bring home a sweep RZ.



1. Zack Cozart (R) SS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=cozarza01&year=Career&t=b)
2. Drew Stubbs (R) CF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=stubbdr01&year=Career&t=b)
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=vottojo01&year=Career&t=b)
4. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=phillbr01&year=Career&t=b)
5. Jay Bruce (L) RF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=bruceja01&year=Career&t=b)
6. Chris Heisey (R) LF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=heisech01&year=Career&t=b)
7. Todd Frazier (R) 3B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=frazito01&year=Career&t=b)
8. Devin Mesoraco (R) C (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=mesorde01&year=Career&t=b)
9. Homer Bailey (R) P (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=baileho02&year=Career&t=b)

[kaldaniels]

It is humorously early, but Cozart leads the Reds' hitters in WAR at 0.8.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2012&month=0&season1=2012&ind=0&team=18&rost=0&age=0&players=0

[cincyinco]

Not a bad lineup.. I kinda like it.

[klw]

Grandpa Rolen gets the day off and Cozart is back. I guess he's old enough to hit against Vogelsong?

What a group of youngsters! Isn't Cozart actually one of the "older" guys in the lineup today.

Edit: He is right in the middle- 4 older, 4 younger.

1.Cozart 8/12/85
2.Stubbs 10/4/84
3.Votto 9/10/83
4.Phillips 6/28/81
5.Bruce 4/3/87
6.Heisey 12/14/84
7.Frazier 2/12/86
8.Mesoraco 6/19/88
9.Bailey 5/3/86

[klw]

Giants lineup


Pagan 8
Cabrera 7
Sandoval 5
Posey 2
Schierholtz 9
Belt 3
Arias 6
Theriot 4
Vogelsong 1

[redhawkfish]

Edit: He is right in the middle- 4 older, 4 younger.

1.Cozart 8/12/85
2.Stubbs 10/4/84
3.Votto 9/10/83
4.Phillips 6/28/81
5.Bruce 4/3/87
6.Heisey 12/14/84
7.Frazier 2/12/86
8.Mesoraco 6/19/88
9.Bailey 5/3/86

I am older than dirt!

[Marty and Joe]

Dusty gets an 'A' from me for today's lineup. I definitely like it.

[CySeymour]

No issues with the order or personnel in the lineup.

[WrongVerb]

In my mind this should be the regular lineup most days. It's time for Frazier to take over regular duties at third. If only we could pick up one more lh hitting outfielder.

[VR]

That is a good lineup. Vogelsong should get pummelled today.

Big, big start for Bailey.

[cincyinco]

Bailey looked good.. 1..2..3.. 1st inning..

[cincyinco]

Cozart GO to SS.. Stubbs Ks, Votto works a full count.. Ks looking.. Might have been a bit inside..

[cincyinco]

Posey pops up to Phillips.. 1 down.

[cincyinco]

Nate Scherixjhchjdhs pops out to heisey in left.. Then a basehit to cf for belt..

[cincyinco]

Hit and run, base hit for arias.. Runners at the corners

[cincyinco]

The Riot is up..

[OldXOhio]

I'm a big fan of Ryan Theriot......as a member of the opposing team.

[cincyinco]

Ground out to Votto ends the threat.

[VR]

Hit hit, bunt? :-)

[cincyinco]

Back to back singles.. 1st and 2nd.. Heisey up.

[cincyinco]

Heisey pops it up.. Infield fly rule called.

[cincyinco]

Cmon Frazier..

[cincyinco]

4 pitch walk to Frazier.. Bases juiced

[klw]

nice work by Mez with a sac fly 1-0

[klw]

Bailey singles home Bruce! 2-0

[cincyinco]

Cozart GO to SS.. Again. Reds plate 2..

[cincrazy]

Four of the eight Giants outs have been because of the groundball. Homer doing a good job of keeping the ball down so far.

[cincyinco]

Homer quickly goes 0-2 on vogelsong, and then walks him..

[cincyinco]

4-6-3!

[cincyinco]

Homer having a bit of trouble finding the zone this inning..

[cincyinco]

K of Cabrera.. That's 3 for Homer by my count..

[MikeS21]

Homer looking more like a pitcher the last 2-3 games.

[cincyinco]

Stubbs battles, grounds to SS, beats the throw..

[cincrazy]

Stubbs singles on the eighth pitch of his at bat, then Votto flies out to center.

[cincrazy]

Anyone watching the game? I'm settling for mlb.com's gameday feature.

[cincyinco]

Got a fussy kid, pbp from my end will be sporadic at best, if anyone wants to take over..

[cincyinco]

Anyone watching the game? I'm settling for mlb.com's gameday feature.

I'm watching the Giants feed.. They keep calling Devin.. MESORACA!

[cincyinco]

2 away as phillips hits a can of corn to right..

[MikeS21]

I can't figure out if this ump's strikezone is a square or a trapezoid!?

[cincyinco]

Bruce flies out to left..

[Caveman Techie]

Sandoval singles to left, does that make it 20 in a row for him?

[Caveman Techie]

Posey walks, two on with no outs.

[redsfan30]

Sandoval singles to left, does that make it 20 in a row for him?

19, I think.

[VR]

Huge k by Bailey...that's the pitcher he needs to be. Very nice.

[VR]

2-1 as Bell singles in a run. Apparently a good pitch by Bailey.

[Kc61]

Reds get a very tough call on force play, runner called safe, Phillips throw takes Cozart off the bag.

Bases juiced, 2-1. Game now tied on SFly.

[MikeS21]

Perhaps its only the rookie in him, but Cozart seems to not always concentrate and makes poor plays at times.

[Homer Bailey]

Perhaps its only the rookie in him, but Cozart seems to not always concentrate and makes poor plays at times.

Huh? That's his second career error in over 200 innings, and from it sounds like, that was a horrible scoring decision, and the error was made by Phillips.

[Kc61]

Huh? That's his second career error in over 200 innings, and from it sounds like, that was a horrible scoring decision, and the error was made by Phillips.

Cozart probably came off the base to take the throw by Phillips. But most of the time, that play is called an out.

[elfmanvt07]

Cozart probably came off the base to take the throw by Phillips. But most of the time, that play is called an out.

That was my thought. That play gets called an out 90 percent of the time. On the flip side, though, it's awfully hard to call an error on Dat Dude.

[Screwball]

Anybody watching the game? Gameday showed Heisey's flyout to almost be a home run.

[elfmanvt07]

Anybody watching the game? Gameday showed Heisey's flyout to almost be a home run.

Two steps onto the track.

SF announcers made the correct assessment that it would have been off the batters eye in July.

[Kc61]

Anybody watching the game? Gameday showed Heisey's flyout to almost be a home run.

Long fly ball, but plenty of room for Pagan to catch it. Straightaway center.

[WrongVerb]

I'm watching on mlb.tv and the error should have been on Phillips. Cozart could have recognized what was happening and made sure of the one out though.

[Homer Bailey]

That was my thought. That play gets called an out 90 percent of the time. On the flip side, though, it's awfully hard to call an error on Dat Dude.

Marty said Dat Dude had trouble getting it out of his glove.

[elfmanvt07]

Marty said Dat Dude had trouble getting it out of his glove.

It was a little sluggish, but it didn't look bad. Just slow.

[elfmanvt07]

1-6-3 on an attempted sacrifice to end the inning. Bailey looking more than a little lackadaisical on the basepaths.

[VR]

6 pitch inning by Bailey.....now at 63 pitches after 5.

Reds need to drop the hammer this time through the lineup and give him some breathing room. Would like to see the pen completely rested up for the weekend series.

[LvJ]

It's great seeing our little Homer finally grow up and become a solid pitcher. :)

[redsmetz]

Ha, my son had to go up to NYC today to speak on a panel at a conference (he just started his new job Monday a week ago). He tweeted me and said "The Mayor of Toronto sounds just like Joey Votto."

[elfmanvt07]

Cozart grounds to short. 1 down.

[elfmanvt07]

Stubbs K's on three pitches.

[VR]

Offense still clunky, making the songbird look like more of a hawk.

[MikeS21]

Huh? That's his second career error in over 200 innings, and from it sounds like, that was a horrible scoring decision, and the error was made by Phillips.
Not talking about errors counted by official scorers. I'm talking about little things that don't always show up in a box score. Sometimes, I've seen him not lining up properly, or a little slow in covering base. Sometimes his throws to 1B are a little off. Most of the time, its no big deal. As I said, it's probably more of a rookie thing.

[elfmanvt07]

Joey takes it to a full count then swings at pitch WELL in the dirt. 3 up, 3 down.

[elfmanvt07]

Another solid inning by Bailey, now at 6 K's.

[VR]

Bailey k's Posey on 3 pitches, get Shierholtz, then K's bell.

Homer, we like this Homer.

72 pitches after 6.

[elfmanvt07]

Phillips legs out a grounder to short.

Bruce swings at the first pitch and deposits it underneath the power stacks. 4-2 Redlegs!

[Screwball]

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[VR]

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce!!

x2:thumbup:

[CySeymour]

Bruce Almighty!!!!

[elfmanvt07]

SF broadcasters whining about the ballpark. Bruce's jack definitely snuck over the fence.

[Tom Servo]

BRUUUUUUUUUUUU

[elfmanvt07]

Heisey K's on a foul tip.

[elfmanvt07]

Frazier F9, Mesoraco F8.

[CySeymour]

SF broadcasters whining about the ballpark. Bruce's jack definitely snuck over the fence.

I really hate this. The visiting team has to hit in the same park as the Reds.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

SF broadcasters whining about the ballpark. Bruce's jack definitely snuck over the fence.

Their batters have equal access to the ballpark's advantages.

[dougdirt]

I feel like a lot more people whine about the grand canyon that the Giants play in....

[Tom Servo]

BRUUUUUUUUUUUU
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCE


just needed to finish that

[elfmanvt07]

Bailey in some trouble. Runners on the corners with no one out.

[757690]

Maybe it's just selective memory or randomness, but Bailey always seems to give back the runs and leads he gets rather quickly. Let's hope he doesn't do it here.

[Screwball]

I'd consider it a victory if Homer limited the damage to one run here.

[VR]

Two quick hits, first and third w/ no outs.

Homer needs to fight through this himself.

[elfmanvt07]

Blanco SCORCHES one to right, nearly over Bruce's head. Sac fly. 4-3 good guys.

[New Fever]

Game is on the MLB Network.

[elfmanvt07]

Pagan with a line single to right. Runners on first and second. Here comes the toothpick.

[elfmanvt07]

Ondrusek coming in.

[elfmanvt07]

Bailey's line:
6.1 IP, 7H, 2ER, 2BB, 6K's.

[Nasty_Boy]

Maybe it's just selective memory or randomness, but Bailey always seems to give back the runs and leads he gets rather quickly. Let's hope he doesn't do it here.

The defense has played a major part in that the last two starts... This inning is of his doing, but he gave up 3 unearned runs last outing and another today.

Solid start today, not great, but solid... Hopefully the bullpen keeps on keeping on!

[elfmanvt07]

Double switch, by the way. Rolen in at third.

[elfmanvt07]

Melky pops to short. Infield fly. 2 down. Pablo Sandoval stands in.

[elfmanvt07]

To clarify my earlier comment: Frazier out, Ondrusek in 7 hole, Rolen ninth. Scotty will be up first in the bottom half.

[Buckeye33]

Game is on the MLB Network.

Good heads up here ...

[elfmanvt07]

Sandoval grounds into the force at second. 4-3 Reds.

[Nasty_Boy]

Great job Logan! Great pitching in a tough spot!

[Buckeye33]

So, will Dusty actually pitch Chapman two days in a row?

[kaldaniels]

Dusty has brought out the hook perfectly the last 2 days.

[elfmanvt07]

Guillermo Mota onto the mound for the Giants.

[elfmanvt07]

Rolen, Cozart, Stubbs up this half.

[Buckeye33]

SCOTTY!!!

[redsmetz]

I just had a hunch Scott would hit another dinger today. Wish I'd said so beforehand.

[RedLegsToday]

He's alive! ALIVE!

[elfmanvt07]

Rolen with another big fly! WELCOME BACK SCOTTY! 5-3 good guys! Off the facade of the second deck in left.

[bellhead]

yard!!!:)

[redsmetz]

He's alive! ALIVE!

Shows what my daughter knows. Think I'll text her and razz her.

[elfmanvt07]

Cozart grounder. 6-3, 1 down.

[klw]

I would say that double switch worked quite nicely.

[elfmanvt07]

I would say that double switch worked quite nicely.

Couldn't agree more.

[RED VAN HOT]

Is it time to move Scotty back to fourth?

[elfmanvt07]

In a word, yes.

[RedLegsToday]

Couldn't agree more.

Dusty is a genius :D

[elfmanvt07]

Dusty is a genius :D

I think there's some kind of saying about a broken clock.

[elfmanvt07]

Stubbs hits one off the wall, Cabrera stumbles, Stubbs reaches for three and is thrown out. Bad baserunning decision there. Absolute LASER by Melky.

Two down.

[VR]

I was thinking Stubbs would have a chance at an inside the park HR.

[Degenerate39]

Should be 6-3 now

[elfmanvt07]

Votto giving Cabrera a workout. Joey safe with a standup double. Two out.

[Reds Freak]

Stubbs hits one off the wall, Cabrera stumbles, Stubbs reaches for three and is thrown out. Bad baserunning decision there. Absolute LASER by Melky.

Two down.

I think it was a good, aggressive baserunning decision. Sounds like Cabrera made a great play. Important to get to third with less than two outs..

[redsmetz]

Stubbs hits one off the wall, Cabrera stumbles, Stubbs reaches for three and is thrown out. Bad baserunning decision there. Absolute LASER by Melky.

Two down.

I like him being aggressive. It took a fantastic throw to get him, otherwise he's standing on third. In a tied game, I might agree, but force them to make good plays otherwise.

[RedLegsToday]

Looks like Joey is trying to defend that doubles title from last year.

[RedsManRick]

Does this team know it has a 3rd base coach? I swear everytime a guy rounds 2nd base his head is in the OF looking for the ball. If Stubbs would just run he'd have had no problem.

[Reds Freak]

Does this team know it has a 3rd base coach? I swear everytime a guy rounds 2nd base his head is in the OF looking for the ball. If Stubbs would just run he'd have had no problem.

If the play is in front of you, the runner makes that call on his own. Don't need a base coach..

[elfmanvt07]

After almost catching the 2-1 in the chin, @DatDudeBP swings at a 3-2 offering and hits a lazy fly to the 9. End 7, 5-3 good guys.

[elfmanvt07]

Ondrusek still on the hill.

[dougdirt]

Is it time to move Scotty back to fourth?

Absolutely not.

[elfmanvt07]

Working quickly, Logan loses an obvious swing decision, but strikes Posey out anyways. 1 down.

[elfmanvt07]

Schierholtz with a groundout to Votto. 2 away.

[Buckeye33]

That pitch was NASTY! Great outing for Logan!

[elfmanvt07]

Brandon Belt swings at two changeups, the second of which hit grass before leather, then finally watches a FILTHY slider on the outside corner. Middle 8, 5-3 Redlegs.

[elfmanvt07]

Bruce sneaks one past Theriot into right for a single.

[elfmanvt07]

Heisey puts it on the ground. Bruce out at second. Ludwick in to PH for Ondrusek in the 7 hole.

[elfmanvt07]

Ludwick looking at a RIDICULOUS infield shift.

[elfmanvt07]

Ludwick shoots it to right for a single. Men on first and second with one away. Here comes Mes.

[elfmanvt07]

Giants have a righty warming.

[elfmanvt07]

Mes hits a medium fly to left center. 2 down.

[elfmanvt07]

What account have you to present of yourself, Mr. Rolen?

[elfmanvt07]

Rolen works it to 3-2 without the bat moving. K's on a change down and away.

[elfmanvt07]

Top of the ninth, my fellow baseball scholars.

[elfmanvt07]

Marshall on the rubber.

[elfmanvt07]

Marshall walks Arias on 5 pitches to start the inning. Who let CoCo onto the field?!

[Gallen5862]

Thanks for the pbp.

[elfmanvt07]

5 sliders have yielded one total strike. Theriot singles into left. TWO MEN ON. Come on, Marshall.

[elfmanvt07]

Here's Pill to bat for Lopez.

[elfmanvt07]

Marshall starts him with two WICKED curveballs for strikes. Swung at it the third time. How do you think that went? K. One down.

[cbowen2112]

Need a DP here!

[elfmanvt07]

SF with a funny little bit of banter.

Mes heads to the mound...

"Whaddaya want to throw here?"
"Curveball."
"Yeah."

Marshall just gets HOSED on his 0-2.

[Homer Bailey]

What absolute BS. Marshall K's Pagan, they don't call it, and he homers on the next pitch. Are you serious.

[Degenerate39]

Coco Marshall

[cbowen2112]

Tim Welky just screwed us of a sweep

[cbowen2112]

What absolute BS. Marshall K's Pagan, they don't call it, and he homers on the next pitch. Are you serious.

Unreal!

[elfmanvt07]

UNBELIEVABLE. Pagan gets lucky. Watches an OBVIOUS third strike not get called. Next swing into the seats. 6-5, gents.

[Degenerate39]

These umps have been utterly terrible this series

[Homer Bailey]

Gameday literally had it almost right down the middle.

[Playadlc]

All on Marshall. Walks kill.

[cbowen2112]

All on Marshall. Walks kill.

False...there was at least one to Arias that was also a strike which would have been strike 2. This ump is murdering us.

[elfmanvt07]

Cabrera with his first hit of the day. Man on first with one down.

[elfmanvt07]

Marshall is getting seriously squeezed.

[elfmanvt07]

Sandoval lines it right to Jay. 2 down.

[elfmanvt07]

Top of the order coming up for the Reds next inning.

[Degenerate39]

I think the Reds will tie it up and win it here.

[Tom Servo]

Feels bad man, but I guess Marshall was bound to have a clunker. :(

[Playadlc]

False...there was at least one to Arias that was also a strike which would have been strike 2. This ump is murdering us.

That's part of the game. You don't get every call. You simply can not walk the lead off guy with a two run lead in the 9th.

[elfmanvt07]

Cabrera just got picked off. Mid 9th. COME ON BOYS.

[elfmanvt07]

http://i.imgur.com/uQmbL.png

[MikeS21]

Feels bad man, but I guess Marshall was bound to have a clunker. :(
Yeah, well I have a feeling it won't be the last one we'll see.

[elfmanvt07]

Casilla on to pitch.

[Degenerate39]

Cozart is due here

[MikeS21]

That pitch was inside and it was called a strike.

[elfmanvt07]

Cozart quickly behind 0-2.

[elfmanvt07]

Rang him up.

[Kc61]

That's part of the game. You don't get every call. You simply can not walk the lead off guy with a two run lead in the 9th.

Particularly at GABP.

[elfmanvt07]

Here comes Drew.

[redsmetz]

Yeah, well I have a feeling it won't be the last one we'll see.

Oh sheesh, what a ray of sunshine. It's a rare closer that doesn't take it on the chin every now & then. It's the nature of the beast.

That said, hope we come back.

[elfmanvt07]

Stubbs watches a nasty curve for strike three. It's all up to Votto.

[elfmanvt07]

Votto swings right through 95 mph heat. Fouled one off at 96. Finally K's swinging. Marshall walks it away.

[Playadlc]

Man what a frustrating loss.

[Patrick Bateman]

That will probably be Marshall's worst game of the year. I wouldn't count on it happening again. Oh well, looked like we had it all the way.

[Tom Servo]

:(

[elfmanvt07]

http://i.imgur.com/odzoI.jpg

[MikeS21]

Oh sheesh, what a ray of sunshine. It's a rare closer that doesn't take it on the chin every now & then. It's the nature of the beast.

That said, hope we come back.
Hey, all I'm saying is that I don't see Marshall as some big improvement over CoCo. Very rarely are we going to see 1-2-3 innings out of Marshall.

[fearofpopvol1]

That strike call was such a killer, but at the same time, you can't give up a 3 run jack when you're up 2 runs. That's a killer.

[Homer Bailey]

Hey, all I'm saying is that I don't see Marshall as some big improvement over CoCo. Very rarely are we going to see 1-2-3 innings out of Marshall.

Wow.

[Kc61]

That strike call was such a killer, but at the same time, you can't give up a 3 run jack when you're up 2 runs. That's a killer.

It was a borderline pitch. It wasn't that horrendous a call. It's on Marshall, period.

[elfmanvt07]

http://i.imgur.com/JO0lf.jpg

[Kc61]

Is this the first time Marhall has gone back to back games as a Red?

[Homer Bailey]

It was a borderline pitch. It wasn't that horrendous a call. It's on Marshall, period.

In no way was it borderline.

[Kc61]

In no way was it borderline.

It was over the plate but borderline low.

[dougdirt]

It was over the plate but borderline low.

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/cache/location.php-pitchSel=445156&game=gid_2012_04_26_sfnmlb_cinmlb_1&batterX=73&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=3.gif

Not really borderline.

[Homer Bailey]

Pitch F/X of the Pagan at bat.

[elfmanvt07]

http://i.imgur.com/JO0lf.jpg

Bruce had a nice day.

[klw]

Back to the positives.
solid outing by Bailey, nice to see Bruce with the 3 hits and the longball, Phillips and Stubbs with 2 more hits, and Rolen with another jack. Good signs in not the W

[cincrazy]

The pitch the Pagan should've been called a strike, yes. Marshall also walked the leadoff batter, and then gave up a 3-run bomb. This game isn't on the umps. It's on Marshall. And that's fine, it happens. By the end of the year we'll get a few calls to go our way, too. He just wasn't as sharp today as he has been in the past.

[Kc61]

Just hope that Marshall is cut out for this closer gig. Terrific pitcher, excellent curve ball, just don't know if he is used to pitching on consecutive days.

He certainly wasn't as sharp today.

[elfmanvt07]

Just hope that Marshall is cut out for this closer gig. Terrific pitcher, excellent curve ball, just don't know if he is used to pitching on consecutive days.

He certainly wasn't as sharp today.

Not even close. His vertical location was good, but he wandered across the plate.

[Big Klu]

Congratulations to Jay Bruce, who has tied Chris Sabo for 24th place on the Reds' all-time home run list.


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Brandon Phillips - 126
18. Reggie Sanders - 125
19. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Joey Votto - 120
21. Sean Casey - 118
22. Frank McCormick - 110
23. Dave Parker - 107
24. Chris Sabo - 104
24. Jay Bruce - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

[dougdirt]

The pitch the Pagan should've been called a strike, yes. Marshall also walked the leadoff batter, and then gave up a 3-run bomb. This game isn't on the umps. It's on Marshall. And that's fine, it happens. By the end of the year we'll get a few calls to go our way, too. He just wasn't as sharp today as he has been in the past.

If the strikezone is called correctly, he doesn't give up the home run. We don't know what happens after that, but Pagan would have been sitting on the bench.

[fearofpopvol1]

It was a borderline pitch. It wasn't that horrendous a call. It's on Marshall, period.

It wasn't borderline, as Doug showed. It was a horrendous call.

[Kc61]

If the strikezone is called correctly, he doesn't give up the home run. We don't know what happens after that, but Pagan would have been sitting on the bench.

Well, the umpire didn't have one of those F/X charts.

Not a good outing for Marshall.

[Kc61]

It wasn't borderline, as Doug showed. It was a horrendous call.

Watching it live, looked like a borderline low pitch down the middle of the plate. F/X shows what it shows. Could have been called either way IMO.

Marshall didn't have it today. He could have escaped with a different call, true, but he was still ahead in the count on Pagan when he gave up the home run.

Marshall is a terrific pitcher, I just hope he succeeds as a closer. He's a lefty curve ball specialist, not the usual type. Chapman or Arredondo appear to be more like the usual closer.

We'll see.

[Caveat Emperor]

I hate low-velocity bullpen arms, as a rule.

I hate low-velocity bullpen arms used as high-leverage guys even more.

[757690]

I hate low-velocity bullpen arms, as a rule.

I hate low-velocity bullpen arms used as high-leverage guys even more.

If only the Reds had a high velocity arm in the pen to use as the closer... ;)

[RedsManRick]

I really don't understand how anybody can watch a game like that and think "man, having umpires call balls and strikes unassisted by technology that could easily support them really adds to the game." Gotta love when the "human element" works against you...

[757690]

I really don't understand how anybody can watch a game like that and think "man, having umpires call balls and strikes unassisted by technology that could easily support them really adds to the game." Gotta love when the "human element" works against you...

Funny thing, I actually think that Questec is causing more bad calls. Umps know they are being graded, and it gets into their heads. Instead of calling their game with their own consistant, yet inaccurate strike zone, they are worrying with each pitch what the machine would call it.

I agree we need to use the best technology available, but having it and only half using it doesn't seem to be helping.

[dougdirt]

Well, the umpire didn't have one of those F/X charts.

Not a good outing for Marshall.

No, the umpire had an up close, 3 foot away view and still got it wrong.

The human element in sports should be left to the players playing the game, not those making calls on the rules when we have things in place to make better and more accurate calls.

[dougdirt]

Watching it live, looked like a borderline low pitch down the middle of the plate. F/X shows what it shows. Could have been called either way IMO.

Marshall didn't have it today. He could have escaped with a different call, true, but he was still ahead in the count on Pagan when he gave up the home run.


EVery call could be called either way if we want to ignore the rules that determine the strikezone.

If the strikezone is called properly, I imagine your second statement there wouldn't exist because the odds are pretty good that Marshall exits unscathed and we win.

[fearofpopvol1]

Watching it live, looked like a borderline low pitch down the middle of the plate. F/X shows what it shows. Could have been called either way IMO.

Marshall didn't have it today. He could have escaped with a different call, true, but he was still ahead in the count on Pagan when he gave up the home run.

Marshall is a terrific pitcher, I just hope he succeeds as a closer. He's a lefty curve ball specialist, not the usual type. Chapman or Arredondo appear to be more like the usual closer.

We'll see.

I didn't think it looked borderline live. However, I did say previously that Marshall has to be better than that and cannot give up 3 run jacks when he has the lead.

[Tony Cloninger]

Funny thing, I actually think that Questec is causing more bad calls. Umps know they are being graded, and it gets into their heads. Instead of calling their game with their own consistant, yet inaccurate strike zone, they are worrying with each pitch what the machine would call it.

I agree we need to use the best technology available, but having it and only half using it doesn't seem to be helping.

How about they just have the tech to have a machine call balls and strikes....period. Have someone behind the plate to call out what the machine says and make other calls...BUT not Balls and Strikes....and these umps tendencies to move their zone around through the game...or late in the game...or by what team is hitting or hitter in general.

You want shorter games? This would be the way to do it.....you know what the zone is and you would not have teams ....like we know who...... taking pitch after pitch and getting benefits of calls beacuse of who they are.

[traderumor]

I hate low-velocity bullpen arms, as a rule.

I hate low-velocity bullpen arms used as high-leverage guys even more.Yet Marshall has been one of the top late inning guys at least two years running. He had a bad outing. Generally, he's nails. I don't care if he throws it underhand if he consistently has easy innings, which he usually does. Today he made a mistake walking the #7 hitter then got screwed on a bad ball/strike call. What's his velocity got to do with that? In fact, he should have had back to back strikeouts on his way to working out of a jam.

BTW, I like guys on the mound at any point in the game who are throwing one of the best of a kind of pitch in the game. When he throws the curveball for a strike, which consistently he does, its a barely hittable to unhittable pitch. It makes major league hitters look silly. I'd reconsider that rule.

I'm really ticked about the call now. I was at the game and it was hard to tell from the left field stands and the replay looked like it might have been low. But pitch f/x shows it really wasn't even close. Rat farts!

[cumberlandreds]

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/cache/location.php-pitchSel=445156&game=gid_2012_04_26_sfnmlb_cinmlb_1&batterX=73&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=3.gif

Not really borderline.

Thanks they didn't show the pitch on the Giants broadcast. Although, Krukow did say the Giants got a break on that one. Terrible pitch call, no doubt about that. Just more reason to use Questech or something of the sort for balls and strikes. I hate games being decided by bad calls late in a game. You can usually overcome bad calls within the game but when they are late like yesterday you can't.
Still the Reds left some runs on base they should have had in. Stubbs blundering on the bases hurt them too. He slowed around 2nd and then tried to turn it on to third. Also wasted a good outing by Bailey. I thought that was the best he looked all season. If the Reds can get that from him most times out you will take it all season long.
Gotta put this one behind and move on. The Reds have to take care of business the next three series. I think they need 6 of 9 at the minimum against these poor teams. You got to beat up on the "littles" to win a divison or make the playoffs.