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Reds Fanatic
05-03-2012, 11:19 AM
Everyone is going to love this lineup:

Reds lineup:

Heisey 8
Harris 5
Votto 3
Phillips 4
Bruce 9
Ludwick 7
Mesoraco 2
Valdez 6
Bailey 1

Redsfan320
05-03-2012, 11:21 AM
I have no problem with giving Stubbs and Cozy days off as they're scuffling. Rolen takes 'em all the time, and could certainly use one also. Mes needs to play more as it is.

But for the love of God... FREE FRAZIER!! :angry: :cry:

EDIT: Even if Dusty's man-love for Harris compels him to play him today, put him in CF. Heisey could sure use a day off too.

klw
05-03-2012, 11:21 AM
Well that is different.

Cubs lineup
DeJesus rf,
Barney 2b,
Castro ss,
LaHair 1b,
Soriano lf,
Stewart 3b,
Johnson cf,
Soto c,
Dempster p

Makes some sense to play Harris and Valdez today to get them some time before Cairo comes back. I wonder if they are playing for jobs at this point or if they will just send Frazier down again when Cairo is ready.

mbgrayson
05-03-2012, 11:25 AM
I sure would have liked Frazier at third instead of Harris....

vs. righties in 2012 (small sample sizes):

Frazier is .222/.417/.444 for an OPS of .861.
Harris is .097/.125/.161 for an OPS of .286.

Of course, Harris may have a killer day against Dempster today. Lifetime, Willie is hitting .429 (3 for 7) against Dempster.

Plus Plus
05-03-2012, 11:26 AM
Well that is different.

Cubs lineup
DeJesus rf,
Barney 2b,
Castro ss,
LaHair 1b,
Soriano lf,
Stewart 3b,
Johnson cf,
Soto c,
Dempster p

Makes some sense to play Harris and Valdez today to get them some time before Cairo comes back. I wonder if they are playing for jobs at this point or if they will just send Frazier down again when Cairo is ready.

I really hope that the front office sees enough in Frazier to realize that having both Harris and Valdez on the roster is ridiculous.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 11:37 AM
What a horrid lineup! Bailey had better pich a gem today. Also if Rolen can't play today after having three straight off days from Sunday to Tuesday then he needs to retire now. Put Frazier in and see what he can do on a regular basis.

Kc61
05-03-2012, 11:39 AM
I really hope that the front office sees enough in Frazier to realize that having both Harris and Valdez on the roster is ridiculous.

You talking about the same Todd Frazier who had a .654 OPS against right handers in the majors, 95 PAs, for the Reds last season?

Why is he a good choice against Dempster?

I assume it is based on minor league numbers.

Harris and Valdez are veterans who should get a chance to play once in awhile. Nothing wrong with it.

Frazier is a RedsZone darling. I hope he succeeds, but I don't see the compelling need to play him against Dempster. Don't see the need for this particular game.

Now, if somebody wants to give Todd an extended trial at third base for a month or two, then I could see him playing in a game like this. I just don't see the matchup with Dempster.

redsfan30
05-03-2012, 11:40 AM
I do not fashion myself a lineup complainer. However.....

This is bad.

Plus Plus
05-03-2012, 11:51 AM
You talking about the same Todd Frazier who had a .654 OPS against right handers in the majors, 95 PAs, for the Reds last season?

Why is he a good choice against Dempster?

I assume it is based on minor league numbers.

Harris and Valdez are veterans who should get a chance to play once in awhile. Nothing wrong with it.

Frazier is a RedsZone darling. I hope he succeeds, but I don't see the compelling need to play him against Dempster. Don't see the need for this particular game.

Now, if somebody wants to give Todd an extended trial at third base for a month or two, then I could see him playing in a game like this. I just don't see the matchup with Dempster.

I probably made my position sound more strongly than it is- Frazier has shown great plate discipline, good power, and an ability to start or come off the bench and produce in this young season. He also did well last year, posting a .727 OPS in limited playing time even with a .253 BABIP. I think he could be an upgrade to the current roster, and I think that the lowest two men on the totem pole are Harris (who I am no fan of, at all as of right now) and Valdez.

Regarding his poor OPS vs RH last year, he had a .203 BABIP against RH. So, I would expect increased production. Furthermore, I see very little upside to having both Valdez and Harris in the lineup, as neither can hit especially well.

In short, I think that Frazier should stay and that either Harris or Valdez should get the red note in their locker. But that's just me. :)

Plus Plus
05-03-2012, 11:53 AM
I think this is the least popular lineup yet. And that's a tough category. Baker: "You've got to get some guys playing time." #reds

https://twitter.com/#!/johnfayman/status/198062172255952897

Edd Roush
05-03-2012, 11:58 AM
No TV today, right?

Edd Roush
05-03-2012, 12:04 PM
Actually I see that it says the Cubs have a TV feed on CSN. Any way we can get that at bars in Cincy?

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2012, 12:04 PM
No TV today, right?

yes that is right no local TV

jhu1321
05-03-2012, 12:04 PM
No TV today, right?

Not sure I can bring myself to even listen, let alone watch.

Ok, I can't back that up but this lineup is confusing. :eek:

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2012, 12:05 PM
Actually I see that it says the Cubs have a TV feed on CSN. Any way we can get that at bars in Cincy?

I doubt any local bars can get it. It will be blacked out locally

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-03-2012, 12:06 PM
I think Dusty realizes that Harris is in serious jeopardy of losing his job in a few days when Cairo is ready to come back. Therefore, batting Harris No. 2 in the pitch-friendly slot ahead of Votto is Dusty's way of giving Harris one last chance to do something.

You gotta think he is on the thinnest of ice and Dusty knows this.

And why in the world do players need a day off after getting days off on Monday and Tuesday? That's ridiculous.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2012, 12:08 PM
I think Dusty realizes that Harris is in serious jeopardy of losing his job in a few days when Cairo is ready to come back. Therefore, batting Harris No. 2 in the pitch-friendly slot ahead of Votto is Dusty's way of giving Harris one last chance to do something.

You gotta think he is on the thinnest of ice and Dusty knows this.

And why in the world do players need a day off after getting days off on Monday and Tuesday? That's ridiculous.

Yes Cairo is starting a rehab assignment with Dayton tomorrow so it should not be too long until he is ready.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 12:31 PM
Dusty broke one of his own rules today with this lineup. Two lefty's hitting together,Harris and Votto. :nono: I wonder why Bruce and Votto can't hit together on most other days?

Kc61
05-03-2012, 12:49 PM
Dusty broke one of his own rules today with this lineup. Two lefty's hitting together,Harris and Votto. :nono: I wonder why Bruce and Votto can't hit together on most other days?

The Votto/Bruce thing has become sort of a punch line around here, and I agree that it probably is worth a try, I like hitting your best hitters in a row.

But keep in mind that on most days every other hitter in the Reds lineup is a righty facing a righty pitcher.

So using "RH" to mean right handed hitter, on most days the lineup would be:

RH, RH, Votto, Bruce, RH, RH, RH, RH, RH.

After Bruce's turn, the Reds would have seven consecutive righty hitters against a right pitcher most days. I think this is influencing the decision.

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 01:03 PM
Actually I see that it says the Cubs have a TV feed on CSN. Any way we can get that at bars in Cincy?

You could try Wrigley South. :)

Tom Servo
05-03-2012, 01:09 PM
Harris and Valdez. Dream team.

Kc61
05-03-2012, 01:20 PM
Harris and Valdez. Dream team.

Valdez played a good game last time he started.

No comment on Harris so far.

Tom Servo
05-03-2012, 01:26 PM
I will say that I actually like Heisey in the leadoff spot. It seems like one of those moves that could work out surprisingly well.*


*Yes, I know that by saying this I am almost ensuring a 0-4 day for him.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 01:36 PM
Father/Son combo doing the radio broadcast. Should be a blast.

Tornon
05-03-2012, 01:37 PM
I didn't realize today was both Bailey & Dempster's birthday

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 01:37 PM
LO to first and we are off and running.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 01:39 PM
Barney GO to 2nd.

Vottomatic
05-03-2012, 01:39 PM
Dusty giving Bailey a lousy birthday present with this weak lineup. Bailey will be pitching scared all day.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 01:41 PM
Castro Homers to CF. His first HR of the year.

Tom Servo
05-03-2012, 01:42 PM
Castro Homers to CF. His first HR of the year.
:doh:

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 01:42 PM
Castro Homers to CF. His first HR of the year.

Ozzie approves.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 01:43 PM
LaHair singles for a LaHit.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 01:44 PM
Soriano flies to rf. 1-0 Cubbies in the first

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 01:45 PM
LaHair singles for a LaHit.

I heard that his favorite Jackson is LaToya.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-03-2012, 01:45 PM
Another high-pitch, run-scoring first inning for a reds starter.

Tom Servo
05-03-2012, 01:46 PM
Another high-pitch, run-scoring first inning for a reds starter.
You must be a lot of fun at parties.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 01:47 PM
Heisey flies to CF

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 01:47 PM
Was that 1 pitch? Cozart did the same thing to start off the game last night. 1 pitch, 1 out.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 01:48 PM
Was that 1 pitch? Cozart did the same thing to start off the game last night. 1 pitch, 1 out.

Think so but Marty was too busy talking to his son. So we may never know.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 01:49 PM
Wow! Harris K's. That doesn't happen often.

Tom Servo
05-03-2012, 01:50 PM
Think so but Marty was too busy talking to his son. So we may never know.
GameDay says it was the 2nd pitch.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 01:50 PM
Votto says this is what real hitter does. Two out single

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 01:53 PM
Votto just raised his BA with no runners on base from .195 to .214.

With runners on base: .368
With runners in scoring position: .421

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 01:53 PM
BP bounces out to 2nd. 1-0 Cubs after one

757690
05-03-2012, 01:55 PM
Dusty broke one of his own rules today with this lineup. Two lefty's hitting together,Harris and Votto. :nono: I wonder why Bruce and Votto can't hit together on most other days?

Votto/Bruce have already hit back to back this season, and did it over 70 times last season. He also hit lefties back to back many times in SF and Chicago. Another Baker myth.

HokieRed
05-03-2012, 01:55 PM
The lineup is just pitiful.

Tom Servo
05-03-2012, 01:55 PM
Just saw the video of Castro's HR. A GABP special where it just kept carrying just out of reach of Heisey, but hey, it is what it is. Wish the Reds could hit a couple of them.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 01:56 PM
Base hit for Stewart.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 01:57 PM
Votto/Bruce have already hit back to back this season, and did it over 70 times last season. He also hit lefties back to back many times in SF and Chicago. Another Baker myth.

Never let facts get in the way of good rant. ;) I wish Dusty would give it try this season. It can't hurt anymore than what this offense is doing now.

klw
05-03-2012, 01:59 PM
Gameday has Bailey's first 14 pitches of the day as all being 4 seam fastballs. Any idea if that was correct? GABP did not through a 0-2 straight fastball to Castro down the middle of the plate. That was on Homer and whoever called for another fastball there.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 01:59 PM
Johnson pops out.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:02 PM
5-4-3 and that's the inning. 1-0 Cubs in the 2nd

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 02:02 PM
5-4-3. I'll take it.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:05 PM
Bruce LO to RF

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 02:07 PM
Ouch. Just saw the Tweet about Pablo Sandoval's broken hamate bone. Didn't he break the same thing last year or the year before?

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:07 PM
Ludwick K's

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:08 PM
Mez grounds to third. 1-0 Cubs after two.

yab1112
05-03-2012, 02:12 PM
Votto just raised his BA with no runners on base from .195 to .214.

With runners on base: .368
With runners in scoring position: .421

Small sample size but still :eek:

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:13 PM
One out and one on. DeJesus singled

Barney flies to CF two away

Strikes Out Looking
05-03-2012, 02:14 PM
Wow, the Reds (or this group of supposed athletes dressed in Reds uniforms) must be in a hurry to catch a plane.

I'm thinking this is Willie Harris'es last stand; if he doesn't produce Walt will jettison him in lieu of Cairo coming off the DL (at least that is my hope).

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:20 PM
Valdez K's

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 02:20 PM
Todd Frazier's brother has just been signed by the Tigers and assigned to the Toledo Mud Hens.

dougdirt
05-03-2012, 02:22 PM
Todd Frazier's brother has just been signed by the Tigers and assigned to the Toledo Mud Hens.

He has been with them in the past as well. Two different times actually.

Chip R
05-03-2012, 02:23 PM
Todd Frazier's brother has just been signed by the Tigers and assigned to the Toledo Mud Hens.

Niles? ;)

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:24 PM
Heisey pops out to end the inning. Shhhhhh Don't wake the Reds offense. They are dead to the world.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-03-2012, 02:26 PM
Thom Brennanan: "The Reds have maybe hit two balls hard through the first three innings."

... Against a pitcher coming off a DL stint.

... A night after getting three-hit by a wide receiver turned reliever turned starter.

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 02:26 PM
So far, glad I didn't take a vacation day for this game. Was really close to going down.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-03-2012, 02:28 PM
That might do it.

cbowen2112
05-03-2012, 02:29 PM
That might do it.

Luckily our bench is being warmed by our starters today...

cbowen2112
05-03-2012, 02:31 PM
That HR was a pop up in most parks....jeez.

cbowen2112
05-03-2012, 02:32 PM
I think Homer Bailey has actually looked pretty good today.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:32 PM
LaHair LaHomers and then the Cubs go out quietly. 2-0 Cubs

Strikes Out Looking
05-03-2012, 02:32 PM
That HR was a pop up in most parks....jeez.

The imposters in the Reds unis can't even pop the ball up to get them out.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:35 PM
Harris flies to CF

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:38 PM
Votto doubles into RF corner. Now if would clould clone Votto about eight more times the Reds would be in good shape.

Chip R
05-03-2012, 02:39 PM
Hey, I think I saw this game... last night. :(

757690
05-03-2012, 02:39 PM
Never let facts get in the way of good rant. ;) I wish Dusty would give it try this season. It can't hurt anymore than what this offense is doing now.

I just don't understand why he's not doing it. Especially since Bruce has been so hot this year, and Phillips has struggled.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:41 PM
BP GO to third.

Degenerate39
05-03-2012, 02:42 PM
Bruce is going to tie it up

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:44 PM
Bruce walks. Basically an intentional walk.

dougdirt
05-03-2012, 02:44 PM
Bruce is going to tie it up

So when Ludwick hits a home run here, Bruce will score the tying run, right?

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:47 PM
Ludwick K's

Playadlc
05-03-2012, 02:47 PM
Ludwick K's....shocking.

dougdirt
05-03-2012, 02:48 PM
Darn.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:50 PM
Home Run number three for the Cubs.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:51 PM
Soto Homered. Going into last night he was hitting all of .127.

BCubb2003
05-03-2012, 02:51 PM
I wish these Cubs were seeing more pitches.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2012, 02:52 PM
The Cubs came into Cincinnati with just 9 homers as a team all year. They have hit 5 in the last 14+ innings in this series.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:52 PM
Dempster K's

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:53 PM
Dejesus grounds out to 2nd

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:54 PM
Barney pulls a bullet out of his shirt pocket and singles.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 02:56 PM
Castro GO to third. 3-0 Cubs half way through this one.

membengal
05-03-2012, 02:58 PM
So can we just all agree that "the pitching was just too tough today/night" is likely gonna be the phrase used the vast majority of the time a righty is starting?

HokieRed
05-03-2012, 03:00 PM
So can we just all agree that "the pitching was just too tough today/night" is likely gonna be the phrase used the vast majority of the time a righty is starting?

That's it. Can anybody tell me if it's still early?

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 03:01 PM
Two quickly out. So quick I have no idea how they went out.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 03:02 PM
Reds in a hurry to get to Pittsburgh. 3-0 Cubs after five.

LoganBuck
05-03-2012, 03:03 PM
This is torture. Pure torture.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 03:10 PM
Cubs have runners at 2nd and 3rd, one out, after an Ian Stewart double and a Soriano single.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 03:11 PM
IBB to Johnson to get the man who hit a HR in his last AB, Soto.

Kc61
05-03-2012, 03:12 PM
This is torture. Pure torture.

You didn't get the memo. It's still early and any criticism of the offense is premature and the Reds scored a lot of runs last year and any move to change things would be a panic move and any critic of the offense thinks the sky is falling and it's a small sample size and it's BABIP and every team has slumps and you can envision a real hot streak on the horizon and "I'm not worried about the offense" and handedness doesn't matter and the Reds offense is better than the Cards offense and wait till we play the weaker teams and wait till we hit at GABP and wait till we face some weaker pitchers and we're just running into some hot pitchers right now, and these guys will all hit their baseball card.

I got the memo, so I'm satisfied. It's all good.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 03:14 PM
Soto K's

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 03:16 PM
Soft liner back to Bailey end the inning. Good job from Bailey to get out of that jam.

LoganBuck
05-03-2012, 03:17 PM
Say what you want about Homer Bailey, the guy is a grinder of a pitcher.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-03-2012, 03:20 PM
Cards up 2-0 already. Reds aren't even in the same league.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 03:22 PM
Dempster mows throw the Reds lineup in the 6th. 3-0 Cubs

bellhead
05-03-2012, 03:27 PM
6 innings 3 runs from Homer not a bad start, but with this Reds offense you need to be perfect...

HokieRed
05-03-2012, 03:28 PM
Two hits from Votto, one BB to Bruce. Only thing that surprises me is that they even got two pitches close enough to the K zone to Votto for him to get hits. Get ready for this the rest of the year, RZers. Nobody's going to pitch to Votto or Bruce, and the rest of this lineup cannot beat you.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 03:29 PM
Cubs go out in order against Arredondo.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2012, 03:30 PM
Pretty sad when the best part of the whole week was the rain out.

LoganBuck
05-03-2012, 03:31 PM
Two hits from Votto, one BB to Bruce. Only thing that surprises me is that they even got two pitches close enough to the K zone to Votto for him to get hits. Get ready for this the rest of the year, RZers. Nobody's going to pitch to Votto or Bruce, and the rest of this lineup cannot beat you.

Gotta add one of two things(in a perfect world both). A legitimate leadoff hitter, or another quality middle of the order bat.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2012, 03:38 PM
That was a 10 pitch inning for Dempster.

Chapman in to pitch the 8th

Kc61
05-03-2012, 03:41 PM
Gotta add one of two things(in a perfect world both). A legitimate leadoff hitter, or another quality middle of the order bat.

The Reds starting lineup needs two lefty hitters (can be platoon guys) who get on base. They also need a righty power hitter for the middle of the order. They also need one decent lefty hitter for the bench. Obviously, switch hitters will do in any of these slots.

This will require making changes at 3B, LF and CF.

It's really that simple and that clear. Actually, it's obvious.

powersackers
05-03-2012, 03:42 PM
I didn't think this team would embarrass us as fans at all this year. But alas... right here, right now we are a laughing stock.

dougdirt
05-03-2012, 03:43 PM
I didn't think this team would embarrass us as fans at all this year. But alas... right here, right now we are a laughing stock.

People elsewhere would have to care for us to be a laughing stock. And even if they did care, we wouldn't be near the top of the list.

powersackers
05-03-2012, 03:50 PM
People elsewhere would have to care for us to be a laughing stock. And even if they did care, we wouldn't be near the top of the list.

Contrary to your statement, the writers/outfits who cared enough to state the Reds would win the NL Central do care - and would look at us now and cringe. If any of them "care" to re-evaluate their lists and document the biggest dissapointment of 2012 MLB right here, right now. The Reds are certainly on top 3-4 of that list (PHL, MIA and maybe NYY in the same conversation). That is embarrassing in my book.

HokieRed
05-03-2012, 03:50 PM
The Reds starting lineup needs two lefty hitters (can be platoon guys) who get on base. They also need a righty power hitter for the middle of the order. They also need one decent lefty hitter for the bench. Obviously, switch hitters will do in any of these slots.

This will require making changes at 3B, LF and CF.

It's really that simple and that clear. Actually, it's obvious.

Been obvious and the current FO has not been able to address it. Fast approaching time for a change and I don't mean Baker.

Kc61
05-03-2012, 03:50 PM
Couple of questions.

Did the Reds ever get out of their April team slump?

If so, are they now in a May team slump?

HokieRed
05-03-2012, 03:51 PM
Couple of questions.

Did the Reds ever get out of their April team slump?

If so, are they now in a May team slump?

I thought you'd gotten that memo. It's still early well into July this year.

powersackers
05-03-2012, 03:52 PM
28 batters 101 pitches. 3.6 P/PA today.

Kc61
05-03-2012, 03:53 PM
I thought you'd gotten that memo. It's still early well into July this year.

You're right. That was a pretty good memo, if I recall.

Now Sean Marshall is pitching.

Never a good sign when you have to give your top set up guys and closer outings in a losing game to get them some work.

OldXOhio
05-03-2012, 03:58 PM
Just tuning in to see we only have 3 hits.

Why are they reposting last night's stats on MLB.com? The Reds must not play until tonight.

powersackers
05-03-2012, 04:00 PM
Now that is a PA. 8 Pitches, 5 fouls and ends in a Double. Joe Mather showing us how its done. Doubt Jacoby or anyone is paying attention.

cumberlandreds
05-03-2012, 04:00 PM
Cubs have out hit the Reds 20-6. Absolutely terrible.

powersackers
05-03-2012, 04:03 PM
Spahn and Sain then Pray for Rain was a rally cry back in the day for one lop sided team.

Maybe ours should be:

Votto and Bruce then Pray for a Truce?

Or how about
Votto and Bruce then watch everyone else take abuse?

Or maybe
Bruce and Votto then pray for the lotto?

Anyone else?

RichRed
05-03-2012, 04:06 PM
Spahn and Sain then Pray for Rain was a rally cry back in the day for one lop sided team.

Maybe ours should be:

Votto and Bruce then Pray for a Truce?

Or how about
Votto and Bruce then watch everyone else take abuse?

Or maybe
Bruce and Votto then pray for the lotto?

Anyone else?

Joey and Jay, then call it a day.

MasonBuzz3
05-03-2012, 04:07 PM
check out those OBP skills, Willie Harris must be heating up

mth123
05-03-2012, 04:08 PM
Pardon my poetry but how about

Votto and Bruce and the rest stink.

HokieRed
05-03-2012, 04:08 PM
I don't care that he walked. I hope it is his last AB in a Reds uniform.

Kc61
05-03-2012, 04:08 PM
Votto and Bruce, then what's the use.

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 04:09 PM
I don't care that he walked. I hope it is his last AB in a Reds uniform.

Well, technically...it wouldn't have been his last AB. :D

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2012, 04:09 PM
Good start to the 9th as Marmol comes in and throws 8 straight balls to walk Harris and Votto

HokieRed
05-03-2012, 04:09 PM
Well, technically...it wouldn't have been his last AB. :D

Fine, I hope it was his last technical non AB.

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:09 PM
Phillips should be cut if he swings at the first pitch.

WildcatFan
05-03-2012, 04:09 PM
Phillips should be cut if he swings at the first pitch.

Was just about to post this.

MasonBuzz3
05-03-2012, 04:09 PM
willie harris - rally starter

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:10 PM
Wow! How do you give him that call now?

WildcatFan
05-03-2012, 04:10 PM
willie harris - rally starter

Marty calls up Phillips as "a guy who will chase strikes out of the zone."

kbrake
05-03-2012, 04:10 PM
I'd love to see this team walk its way out of a slump.

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:10 PM
Wow!

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 04:11 PM
Take it any way you can get it.

WildcatFan
05-03-2012, 04:11 PM
Ludwick-Mes-Valdez.

/hides under table

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:12 PM
Let it hit you!

Kc61
05-03-2012, 04:12 PM
Funny game thread.

bellhead
05-03-2012, 04:12 PM
Let it hit you!

Stien lean your A$$ out over the plate...

WildcatFan
05-03-2012, 04:13 PM
Live look-in now on MLB.com

DGullett35
05-03-2012, 04:13 PM
At least we still haven't been shut out this year

powersackers
05-03-2012, 04:14 PM
Live look-in now on MLB.com

Thanks, it's (the live lookin) not blacked out here in Cincy. Cool.

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:14 PM
That was a meatball.

VR
05-03-2012, 04:14 PM
Gameday is stuck on strike 1 to Phillips....

WildcatFan
05-03-2012, 04:14 PM
Ludwick may have earned that ball four based on his reaction to strike two.

CTA513
05-03-2012, 04:15 PM
2 more walks and the Reds win

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:15 PM
Gameday is stuck on strike 1 to Phillips....
Walk
Walk
DP ball that turned into no outs from an error by Stewart.
Bruce single
Walk

3-2, bases loaded 0 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2012, 04:15 PM
Marmol walks in a run. His 3rd walk of the inning. 3-2 Cubs.

Gallen5862
05-03-2012, 04:15 PM
How did the Reds get 2 runs this inning?

powersackers
05-03-2012, 04:15 PM
Dollis coming in. *Next Cubs closer... Marmol is a joke.

MasonBuzz3
05-03-2012, 04:15 PM
How did the Reds get 2 runs this inning?

Pity

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2012, 04:15 PM
Marmol has thrown 18 pitches and 12 of them have been balls.

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:15 PM
How did the Reds get 2 runs this inning?

Walk
Walk
DP ball that turned into no outs from an error by Stewart.
Bruce single
Walk

3-2, bases loaded 0 outs.

kbrake
05-03-2012, 04:16 PM
Walking their way out of a slump. Take that Dusty.

BCubb2003
05-03-2012, 04:16 PM
The Cubs rode the Marmolcoaster.

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 04:17 PM
Walking their way out of a slump. Take that Dusty.

Freaking base cloggers.

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:17 PM
The Cubs rode the Marmolcoaster.

Roller Coaster Tycoon: Bobsled Roller Coaster Train Flies Off The Track When Going Too Fast - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpdHNs-cUIA)

DGullett35
05-03-2012, 04:17 PM
The Cubs rode the Marmolcoaster.



nice^

Gallen5862
05-03-2012, 04:17 PM
Thanks Reds44.

RBA
05-03-2012, 04:18 PM
Looking like Wrighley South now with the Cubs blowing a lead in the 9th.

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 04:18 PM
Put a charge into one Mez.

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:18 PM
Put a charge into one Mez.
I'll take a fly ball to RF.

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:19 PM
Well, I don't know how to feel about that.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2012, 04:19 PM
6-4-3 DP ties the game at 3-3

DGullett35
05-03-2012, 04:20 PM
Base hit would be nice

dougdirt
05-03-2012, 04:20 PM
Base hit would be nice

I will settle for any non-out.

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:21 PM
Wow, Valdez is bad.

HotCorner
05-03-2012, 04:21 PM
:laugh:



Jeff Passan ‏ @JeffPassan

Marmol (v.): to explode in spectacular fashion. In a sentence: "They marmoled that old building. Synonyms: implode, melt down, combust.

DGullett35
05-03-2012, 04:21 PM
In an earlier thread we were talking about how the Reds never take pitches or work the pitcher like the Yanks and Sox do..This time Marmol didn't let us think and did it for us

HokieRed
05-03-2012, 04:21 PM
Why did Valdez bat there?

Gallen5862
05-03-2012, 04:22 PM
Let's go Reds.

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 04:22 PM
So is Valdez leading Harris now for the get-out-of-town-when-Cairo-returns honor?

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2012, 04:22 PM
I don't get why you would not have hit Cozart for Valdez there. I get giving players days off but with the game on the line you take your best shot to win.

Gallen5862
05-03-2012, 04:22 PM
What did Valdez do?

HokieRed
05-03-2012, 04:22 PM
Why on earth was Valdez allowed to hit there?

powersackers
05-03-2012, 04:22 PM
I don't get why you would not have hit Cozart for Valdez there. I get giving players days off but with the game on the line you take your best shot to win.

No, this is Baker ball. You instill faith in your veterans. Even if they are glove only guys.

DGullett35
05-03-2012, 04:23 PM
So is Valdez leading Harris now for the get-out-of-town-when-Cairo-returns honor?

Valdez is better than Harris IMO..seriosuly tho why would we get our hopes up. Frazier will get sent back down. Not that its right but its probably going to happen

Strikes Out Looking
05-03-2012, 04:23 PM
What did Valdez do?

Meekly swung at 3 of the four pitches thrown to him and struck out.

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 04:23 PM
What did Valdez do?

The same thing any one of us could have done.

dougdirt
05-03-2012, 04:23 PM
What did Valdez do?

Struck out on a pitch that bounced to the catcher and was a foot outside.

kbrake
05-03-2012, 04:23 PM
What did Valdez do?

Looked awful on a slider for strike 2 and never thought "hmmm I looked so awful on that pitch I think he might throw it again." and he struck out on the exact same pitch.

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:23 PM
What did Valdez do?
Looked like a blind man trying to swat a mosquito.

RichRed
05-03-2012, 04:23 PM
Hard to believe Valdez and his career .289 OBP made an out.

powersackers
05-03-2012, 04:24 PM
Pinch hitting a rookie for a Cagey Veteran. Well "hey man" I'd never do that.

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 04:24 PM
Seriously, now he brings Cozart in?

dougdirt
05-03-2012, 04:24 PM
Seriously, now he brings Cozart in?

Yep.

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:24 PM
Now he brings Cozart in?!

klw
05-03-2012, 04:25 PM
Who was it that Juan Castro pinch hit for a few years back? was it Dunn or someone like that?

Degenerate39
05-03-2012, 04:25 PM
WHy the hell didn't Cozart bat for Valdez?

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:25 PM
Who was it that Juan Castro pinch hit for a few years back? was it Dunn or someone like that?
Josh Hamilton in Oakland.

Degenerate39
05-03-2012, 04:25 PM
Who was it that Juan Castro pinch hit for a few years back? was it Dunn or someone like that?

Hamilton

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2012, 04:25 PM
That is amazing. Bring in Cozart now not when you needed him. Dusty is a classic.

Patrick Bateman
05-03-2012, 04:26 PM
Presumably a double switch? That would be the only sane reason as to why he would even consider bringing on Cozart now, and even then its a stretch.

Chip R
05-03-2012, 04:26 PM
WHy the hell didn't Cozart bat for Valdez?

Too much of a strain on Cozart's creaky, old body to hit and field.

RANDY IN INDY
05-03-2012, 04:26 PM
That Cozart kid can play a little.

kbrake
05-03-2012, 04:26 PM
Is Dusty trying to get fired?

MasonBuzz3
05-03-2012, 04:27 PM
WHy the hell didn't Cozart bat for Valdez?

too young to hit Rafael Dolis, dude

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:27 PM
Presumably a double switch? That would be the only sane reason as to why he would even consider bringing on Cozart now, and even then its a stretch.
It was, but he brought in Rolen for Harris too.

klw
05-03-2012, 04:27 PM
Dusty told Cozart the he would give him 9 innings off today. Wanted to be true to his word.

or:

Like Bailey warms up too slowly to relieve, Cozart warmed up too slowly to PH

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:27 PM
Just walk LaHair.

RANDY IN INDY
05-03-2012, 04:28 PM
Maybe Dusty is angling for that Dodger job.

dougdirt
05-03-2012, 04:28 PM
Maybe Dusty is angling for that Dodger job.

Donnie Baseball has himself a good team going there.... not sure that job is going to be opening.

Reds Fanatic
05-03-2012, 04:30 PM
Cozart, Heisey and Rolen due up.

Buckeye33
05-03-2012, 04:33 PM
There is no reason this kid pitching for the Cubs shouldn't be their closer .. nasty stuff.

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:33 PM
There is no reason this kid pitching for the Cubs shouldn't be their closer .. nasty stuff.
3 Ks, 8 walks in 14 innings.

RANDY IN INDY
05-03-2012, 04:34 PM
:)
Donnie Baseball has himself a good team going there.... not sure that job is going to be opening.

But he's Dusty Baker. ;)

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:34 PM
How much you want to bet he has Heisey bunt?

LegallyMinded
05-03-2012, 04:34 PM
Who was it that Juan Castro pinch hit for a few years back? was it Dunn or someone like that?

My favorite Juan Castro pinch hit memory is this (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore;_ylt=AnpvL5RGCbQUggCqE0zxY6aFCLcF?gid=240 816124) game:

Castro actually pinch hit for the Reds blockbuster offseason acquisition for that year, the pinch hit specialist John Vander Wal. The strangest part is that Castro actually tripled while pinch hitting for the team's designated pinch hitter.

RANDY IN INDY
05-03-2012, 04:35 PM
That Cozart kid can play a little. Did I just say that?

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:35 PM
This is a fantastic meltdown by the Cubs lol

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 04:36 PM
These are the Cubs we've grown to know and love.

RANDY IN INDY
05-03-2012, 04:36 PM
Dusty ball. ;)

RichRed
05-03-2012, 04:36 PM
Is Dusty trying to get fired?

I think I saw him dragging the 1990 World Series trophy around the parking lot and smearing jelly donut all over Johnny Bench's jersey.

Kc61
05-03-2012, 04:36 PM
This game shows you contact is good.

Mes double play ties game, not a strikeout.

Heisey makes contact on the bunt, something good happens.

Hitting is good. Missing is bad. Even if not a line drive.

Degenerate39
05-03-2012, 04:36 PM
I like Rolen batting here. Seems like he always does good in these spots. Probably just jinxed it though

HotCorner
05-03-2012, 04:37 PM
Incompetence trumps impotence

Screwball
05-03-2012, 04:38 PM
Incompetence trumps impotence

Sig worthy.

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:38 PM
We'll take that free win. Thanks, Cubbies.

OesterPoster
05-03-2012, 04:39 PM
At the end of the year, it was just another mark in the win column...right?

klw
05-03-2012, 04:39 PM
At the end of the year, it was just another mark in the win column...right?

Balances out the Marshall loss to SF

DGullett35
05-03-2012, 04:39 PM
we reds fans think we have it bad sometimes.. but it must really really suck to be a cubs fan

Buckeye33
05-03-2012, 04:39 PM
3 Ks, 8 walks in 14 innings.

Still rather have him out there then Marmol who has 8 K 9 walks in 8.2 IP.

Patrick Bateman
05-03-2012, 04:40 PM
It's always nice to know that no matter how bad the Reds play, there is always a worse team in our own division.

MasonBuzz3
05-03-2012, 04:40 PM
we reds fans think we have it bad sometimes.. but it must really really suck to be a cubs fan

couldn't happen to a better group

Puig Your Red
05-03-2012, 04:40 PM
Still rather have him out there then Marmol who has 8 K 9 walks in 8.2 IP.
He's bad too lol

DGullett35
05-03-2012, 04:41 PM
it might have been ugly but at least these guys didn't give up

Vottomatic
05-03-2012, 04:41 PM
Cubs have some talent over there. Jeff Smardja (don't know how to spell), Dempster, Castro, Lahair.........they might have something down the road.

RichRed
05-03-2012, 04:41 PM
Bless the Cubs.

medford
05-03-2012, 04:42 PM
The gift that keeps on giving and giving and giving and giving.....

The not so loverable losers.

reds1869
05-03-2012, 04:42 PM
Bless the Cubs.

And the Pirates. Sometimes I love a week in the life of an NL Central team.

Vottomatic
05-03-2012, 04:43 PM
Pirates just went up 3-2 on the Cardinals in the 6th inning as Jake Westbrook unravels a bit.

DGullett35
05-03-2012, 04:43 PM
We didn't play good in Pitt. last year. Hopefully things change. Good thing is the Pirates are just as offensively challenged as we are..maybe worse off

Vottomatic
05-03-2012, 04:44 PM
Geez, Bedard has struck out 11 in 5 IP so far for the Pirates.

powersackers
05-03-2012, 04:48 PM
When we tied it on that GDP by Mes shouldn't the Cubs have had the infield in and cut off the runner at the plate? Then go for the GDP? That's how I would have played it.

Degenerate39
05-03-2012, 04:49 PM
Today is Dempster and Homer's birthday. First time ever that two pitchers share a birthday and pitch against each other on that day. According to the Cubs post game

Sea Ray
05-03-2012, 04:51 PM
I will settle for any non-out.

An example of where a DP is preferable to a strike out

Sea Ray
05-03-2012, 04:55 PM
Geez, Bedard has struck out 11 in 5 IP so far for the Pirates.

Glad the Reds miss him. They don't do well with Maholm-like lefties. I shutter to think how many Cincinnati Reds he'd strike out

kaldaniels
05-03-2012, 05:04 PM
Today is Dempster and Homer's birthday. First time ever that two pitchers share a birthday and pitch against each other on that day. According to the Cubs post game

Surprising to me but certainly possible. A quick calc puts odds of such a thing at 1 in 133k. How many MLB games have ever been played?

Tom Servo
05-03-2012, 05:25 PM
See, we are not the laughing stock. The Cubs are the laughing stock.

traderumor
05-03-2012, 05:43 PM
When we tied it on that GDP by Mes shouldn't the Cubs have had the infield in and cut off the runner at the plate? Then go for the GDP? That's how I would have played it.I imagine the decision was based on tie game with DP vs. greatly increasing chances of game winning hit due to infield in.

oneupper
05-03-2012, 07:45 PM
I imagine the decision was based on tie game with DP vs. greatly increasing chances of game winning hit due to infield in.

Mes' grounder was hit sharply. Might have gone through a drawn-in infield.

traderumor
05-03-2012, 08:13 PM
Mes' grounder was hit sharply. Might have gone through a drawn-in infield.I agree after seeing the replay, the strategy was survival, try to get the game to extras. Infield in might have also affected Mesaraco's approach in the at bat. Sveum's back was against the wall and it probably was the higher percentage move considering the situation.

757690
05-03-2012, 10:59 PM
Sure it's been posted already, but really have to admire Bailey's toughness today. His perseverance kept the Reds in the game. Great to see him maturing. :thumbup:

WVRedsFan
05-03-2012, 11:21 PM
Bailey pitched well enough to win. A quality start, but that's not good enough for this present offensive team. Until this offense starts hitting and until our manager changes his ways, our staff will struggle. We went through this last year for awhile, too. I don't have to tell you what I think is the problem.

cumberlandreds
05-04-2012, 08:49 AM
When I got home I was shocked to see the Reds had won this game. Good come from behind win but the Cubs did give it away. A bunch of walks and a couple of terrible errors did them in more than anything. But the Reds will take it and move. Sorta makes up for that giveaway to the Giants last week.