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Reds Fanatic
05-16-2012, 04:09 PM
Reds Lineup:

Cozart 6
Stubbs 8
Votto 3
Phillips 4
Heisey 9
Ludwick 7
Frazier 5
Mesoraco 2
Leake 1

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 04:18 PM
Just when we were trying to decide the ever-burning question of who we preferred, Ludwick or Heisey...and Dusty decides to appease us all. We get BOTH! Woohoo!

Here's how we bust Leake out of his doldrums. *sigh*

(and just watch, we'll freaking put up double digit runs. :confused:)

powersackers
05-16-2012, 04:23 PM
Bruce 2-11 w/ 2 doubles in his career vs. Santana.

Ludwick... Ewwww
4-25, but 2 Home Runs

CySeymour
05-16-2012, 04:26 PM
Bruce 2-11 w/ 2 doubles in his career vs. Santana.

He's benching Bruce against Santana just because of that stat line?

mdccclxix
05-16-2012, 04:26 PM
I think the Reds explode in this one. It's time.

powersackers
05-16-2012, 04:33 PM
I think the Reds explode in this one. It's time.

No one explodes at Citi Field. Even with the fences moved in and lowered. Dead last in runs and hits; near the bottom in most offensive categories. Keep that in mind when playing there.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 04:34 PM
He's benching Bruce against Santana just because of that stat line?

No, I'm sure he's just giving Jay a day off due to this long run of consecutive games. He's said several times that he'll be giving everybody a day off during this run.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 04:36 PM
No one explodes at Citi Field. Even with the fences moved in and lowered. Dead last in runs and hits; near the bottom in most offensive categories. Keep that in mind when playing there.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor (http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor)

Yes, but you're ignoring the Ludwick/Hi-C factor. That overwhelms ALL other factors.

CySeymour
05-16-2012, 04:39 PM
No, I'm sure he's just giving Jay a day off due to this long run of consecutive games. He's said several times that he'll be giving everybody a day off during this run.

Ah, gotcha...then it does make sense to do it against a lefty.

powersackers
05-16-2012, 04:44 PM
Ah, gotcha...then it does make sense to do it against a lefty.

Agree. No issue giving Jay a spell here. Might be a big spot late in the game where he can bat instead of Constanzo.

elfmanvt07
05-16-2012, 05:00 PM
Can someone explain the pitching order at this point? I'm seeing the Reds over the next 5 days, and I'd like to know what to expect from the matchups.

Reds Fanatic
05-16-2012, 05:36 PM
Can someone explain the pitching order at this point? I'm seeing the Reds over the next 5 days, and I'd like to know what to expect from the matchups.

Here are the matchups the rest of the week:

Tonight: Leake against Johan Santana
Tomorrow afternoon: Latos against Dickey

Yankees series:

Friday: Arroyo vs. Pettitte
Saturday: Bailey vs Nova
Sunday: Cueto vs Sabathia

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2012, 05:50 PM
Well, at least we have a threat on the bench tonight. Not often we can say that.

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 06:22 PM
Lunacy is doing the same thing, over and over again, and expecting drastically different results. Johan might strike out 10 to 12 tonight. Hope I'm wrong.

DGullett35
05-16-2012, 07:00 PM
Johan has been very good but has rarely made it into the later innings. Hopefully we can get into their bullpen early. Seems we only score runs when we get into the other teams pens.

redsmetz
05-16-2012, 07:07 PM
Yes, but you're ignoring the Ludwick/Hi-C factor. That overwhelms ALL other factors.

Well, a double negative does equal a positive. We're not going to get no runs.

DGullett35
05-16-2012, 07:11 PM
Well, a double negative does equal a positive. We're not going to get no runs.
The power of positive thinking can overcome anything. We will score at least 6 tonight, and Leake will go 8.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:12 PM
hackin away

Reds Freak
05-16-2012, 07:12 PM
I've never heard of half the Mets lineup.

Gallen5862
05-16-2012, 07:15 PM
Is their any tv coverage tonight for out of market viewers?

Gallen5862
05-16-2012, 07:20 PM
Who is able to do pbp tonight?

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:22 PM
Who is able to do pbp tonight?
I suppose I could do a bit.

Newenhuis singles.

elfmanvt07
05-16-2012, 07:22 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/aefc0c97-36a7-8c2d.jpg

My seats.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:25 PM
Runner caught stealing, one out.

DGullett35
05-16-2012, 07:25 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/aefc0c97-36a7-8c2d.jpg

My seats.

Citi really does look like a beautiful park. However GABP needs an All-Star game. kinda a shame if you think about it.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:25 PM
Baxter K's, two outs.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 07:26 PM
Considering the pitch, that was on heck of a throw from Devin. I think that's his first CS this year.

elfmanvt07
05-16-2012, 07:26 PM
The park is nice. Good food.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:27 PM
Wright walks.

elfmanvt07
05-16-2012, 07:28 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/aefc0c97-3819-27f3.jpg

One more.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:29 PM
Duda singles on a 3-0 pitch, Wright goes to third.

Degenerate39
05-16-2012, 07:29 PM
Two outs = Reds' kryptonite

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 07:29 PM
It's hard to watch mike leake throw the baseball.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:30 PM
Incidentally one of my best friends growing up in North Jersey has the last name Duda, but I don't believe there's any relation.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:31 PM
Daniel Murphy bounces out to 2nd, inning over. 0-0 after 1.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 07:32 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/aefc0c97-3819-27f3.jpg

One more.

you know, it wasn't that long ago that MLB parks didn't have advertising all over them. When it was first brought back, it was kinda nostalgic of the really old parks...now it's just annoying again.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:35 PM
BP grounds out to short, 1 out.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:36 PM
Heisey flies out to right. 2 out.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:38 PM
Ludwick flies out to shallow right. Going to the bottom of the 2nd.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:41 PM
Ike Davis grounds out to 2B, 1 out. I'd like to see Hoover face Ike.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:42 PM
Former Red farmhand Justin Turner singles up the middle. 1 on, 1 out.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:45 PM
Nickeas K's. 2 out, Santana coming up.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:47 PM
Santana grounds out to 2nd. 0-0 after 2 innings.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:51 PM
Frazier K's, 1 out.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2012, 07:52 PM
Todd Frazier is making me long for Rolen's recent at-bats.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:52 PM
Mez hit one right on the button, but Wright jumps up and nabs it. Tough luck. 2 outs.

Degenerate39
05-16-2012, 07:53 PM
Anyone been on base yet?

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:53 PM
Leake singles.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:54 PM
Anyone been on base yet?
Yes, Stubbs bloop singled in the first.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:55 PM
Cozart smokes a double, Leake (barely) scores! 1-0 Reds. Cozart advanced to third.

Degenerate39
05-16-2012, 07:55 PM
LOL!

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 07:56 PM
Stubbs grounds out to short. 1-0 Reds going to bottom of the 3rd.

Degenerate39
05-16-2012, 07:56 PM
That was a hell of a flip or flop by Leake

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 07:57 PM
LOL!

Yep. That face plant was perfect. :lol:

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 07:58 PM
This just in....Leake is batting 100 points higher than Ludwick. *snicker*

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 08:00 PM
maybe that hit was just what he needed. He's gotten ahead of someone.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:01 PM
Captain Kirk N. strikes out. 1 out.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:02 PM
Baxter singles. 1 on, 1 out.

edabbs44
05-16-2012, 08:03 PM
I wish a bad man would punt Baxter.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:03 PM
Baxter swipes 2nd.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:05 PM
Wright walks on 4 pitches. 2 on, 1 out.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:06 PM
Leake's already thrown 62 pitches.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2012, 08:06 PM
Leake struggling mightily.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:07 PM
Duda singles up the middle. 1-1 game.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:08 PM
Murphy flies out to LF, 2 out. 2 on.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:09 PM
Davis flies out to CF. 1-1 after 3 innings.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 08:11 PM
Leake struggling mightily.

Part of that inning might have just been him being a bit winded. After scoring from first he certainly didn't get much time to catch his breath. (not making excuses...just saying it might've played a part)

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:12 PM
Votto walks on 4 pitches to start the 4th.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 08:13 PM
THAT is where I enjoy Brantley. When he's talking pitching mechanics. Other than that....ugh.

Big Klu
05-16-2012, 08:14 PM
Was that a National Championship ring on Brantley's finger?

Gallen5862
05-16-2012, 08:15 PM
Thanks for the pbp.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:16 PM
BP flies out to right, Votto thinks better of tagging. 1 out.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:19 PM
Heisey beats out a sure double play ball. 2 out, 1 on.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 08:20 PM
EE hit #13 tonight.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:22 PM
Ludwick works a walk. 2 on, 2 out.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:25 PM
Frazier K's, 2 left on base. 1-1 going to the bottom of the 4th.

alloverjr
05-16-2012, 08:26 PM
I think I'm to the point I have more confidence in Valdez or Cairo at 3rd. Frazier's lost at the moment.

cbowen2112
05-16-2012, 08:26 PM
Wow the zone is wide tonight for Johann...I bet Leake is wondering what he needs to do to get those outside/inside calls.

cbowen2112
05-16-2012, 08:26 PM
I think I'm to the point I have more confidence in Valdez or Cairo at 3rd. Frazier's lost at the moment.

Costanzo!

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2012, 08:27 PM
Wow the zone is wide tonight for Johann...I bet Leake is wondering what he needs to do to get those outside/inside calls.

Win a game or two. Johann Santana, at home, will get calls that a mediocre 0-5 starter won't.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:29 PM
Turner grounds out to short. 1 out.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:30 PM
Nickeas grounds out to short. 2 out.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:32 PM
Santana grounds out to 2nd. 1-1 after 4.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:36 PM
Mez K's. 1 out.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:37 PM
Leake bloop singles. 1 on, 1 out.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 08:38 PM
Leake now leading the Reds in BA. :O)

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:39 PM
Baxter makes a diving catch to retire Cozart. 2 out.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:40 PM
Stubbs K's. 1-1 going to the bottom of 5.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 08:44 PM
Stubbs is a clear guess hitter, taking strikes and swinging at pitches out of the zone.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:45 PM
Newenhuis K's. 1 out.

Plus Plus
05-16-2012, 08:45 PM
Rally chat is open!

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:46 PM
Baxter grounds out to 2nd. 2 out.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:48 PM
Wright K's. 1-1 after 5.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:52 PM
Votto hits one that Baxter tracks down at the warning track. 1 out.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:53 PM
BP grounds out to short. 2 out.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 08:53 PM
Phillips hit one that was as low as his shoes.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2012, 08:54 PM
Uh, some offense please?

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:55 PM
Heisey K's. 1-1 going to the bottom of the 6th.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 08:55 PM
I think we have a team of guessers. They don't know the strike zone or don't care.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:57 PM
Duda singles to right.

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 08:58 PM
More bad offense and boring baseball. Easy outs everywhere. When is jacoby going to be cut loose?

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 08:59 PM
Votto made a diving stop then throws it away. 1st and 3rd, no outs.

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 08:59 PM
Lol. What a play.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2012, 08:59 PM
Good god ... Probably ballgame.

Big Klu
05-16-2012, 09:00 PM
Bad play by Votto.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 09:00 PM
What a bonehead play by Votto that will probably cost us the game.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:00 PM
Davis doubles. 2-1 Mets, runners on 2nd and 3rd no outs.

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 09:01 PM
Losing baseball. Sorry. Been watching baseball for 35 years and not negative but it is what it is.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2012, 09:01 PM
This team is painful to watch. One mistake routinely costs them games, like tonight.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:01 PM
I really don't know what Joey was thinking on that play.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:03 PM
Turner pops up to 2nd. 1 out.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:04 PM
Mets squeeze bunt. 3-1 Mets. Runner to third, 2 outs.

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 09:04 PM
Can't get over that play at first. Just bad. Suicide squeeze perfect. Wow things rolling downhill.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:05 PM
Santana pops up to first. 3-1 Mets after 6.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2012, 09:05 PM
This team has been a mediocre .500 baseball team since midway through 2010. It is what it is. Anyone expecting anything different out of this bunch will be waiting for a long time.

Win 2, lose 2, win 1, lose 2, win 3, lose 3, win 1, lose 1, win 1, lose 1 ... And on and on and on. Lather, rinse, repeat ...

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2012, 09:05 PM
Why not walk the 8 hole hitter? This offense is putrid and you have to play to prevent the run.

dsmith421
05-16-2012, 09:06 PM
.238/.302/.389

I'm sick of the "it's early" stuff. This mediocrity is not new. We're going on 200+ games of .500 ball.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:06 PM
Joey should feel like crap after that play. Cost us 2 runs. Time to get those back boys.

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 09:06 PM
Pretty confident in pen at this point. Any confident this team can score 3 runs in the last third of this game?

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:07 PM
Pretty confident in pen at this point. Any confident this team can score 3 runs in the last third of this game?
It's possible.

cbowen2112
05-16-2012, 09:08 PM
Win a game or two. Johann Santana, at home, will get calls that a mediocre 0-5 starter won't.

Oh so, flawed logic...gotcha!

PuffyPig
05-16-2012, 09:08 PM
Why not walk the 8 hole hitter? This offense is putrid and you have to play to prevent the run.

Because the PH is better than the #8 hitter.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:08 PM
Pretty confident in pen at this point. Any confident this team can score 3 runs in the last third of this game?

Yeah, I like our chances. But I'm kinda dumb that way. :laugh:

PuffyPig
05-16-2012, 09:09 PM
Lather, rinse, repeat ...

A case of the pot calling the kettle black.......

Tony Cloninger
05-16-2012, 09:09 PM
This team has been a mediocre .500 baseball team since midway through 2010. It is what it is. Anyone expecting anything different out of this bunch will be waiting for a long time.

Win 2, lose 2, win 1, lose 2, win 3, lose 3, win 1, lose 1, win 1, lose 1 ... And on and on and on. Lather, rinse, repeat ...

Meanwhile Walt Obtuse....I mean Jock continues to wait on Rolen and think he is coming back any day now. Rijo's magic snake oil must have been found somewhere in the old Riverfront property.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:09 PM
Ludwick fouls out near home. 1 out.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:10 PM
Frazier! :jump:


3-2.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:10 PM
Mez singles to left. 1 on, 1 out.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:11 PM
:jump: TODD! I thought he caught that. :O)

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:12 PM
Mes has gotten some solid wood on the ball today.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:12 PM
Hmm, suddenly no comments from the Peanut Gallery. :deadhorse:

MikeS21
05-16-2012, 09:12 PM
I think we have a team of guessers. They don't know the strike zone or don't care.
lol! True, but the umpire is guessing the strike zone too!

Tony Cloninger
05-16-2012, 09:12 PM
Hmm, suddenly no comments from the Peanut Gallery. :deadhorse:

Yeaaahhhhh!!! Rally!

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 09:12 PM
Wondering what the reds worked on all spring training?

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2012, 09:12 PM
What in the hell is Dusty doing?

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:13 PM
What in the hell is Dusty doing?
Well, Leake was 2 for 2 today against Santana.

Leake bunts Mes over to 2nd. Two outs.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-16-2012, 09:13 PM
What in the hell is Dusty doing?

Letting his best hitter bat.

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2012, 09:14 PM
Well, Leake was 2 for 2 today against Santana.

Leake bunts Mes over to 2nd. Two outs.

Then let him swing, you have eight outs left.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:14 PM
Solid game from Mike. At the plate and on the bump. Heck, on the basepaths too. :O)

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 09:14 PM
Letting his best hitter bat.

Sad but there is some truth to this.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:16 PM
Bobby Parnell in to pitch.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:16 PM
Sad but there is some truth to this.

4 for 12 on the season. Not too shabby.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:18 PM
Cozart goes down swinging. 3-2 Mets going to the bottom of the 7th.

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2012, 09:19 PM
Bunting down a run with one out in the seventh inning when the pitcher has thrown in excess of 100 pitches is asinine.

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 09:19 PM
Hasn't jay Bruce earned any every day start status at this point? On another note, Zack just chased one way outside the zone inside. Ouch.

PuffyPig
05-16-2012, 09:20 PM
Bunting down a run with one out in the seventh inning when the pitcher has thrown in excess of 100 pitches is asinine.

The number of pitches thrown is not relevant. Leake was out of the game as a pitcher in any event.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:21 PM
Hasn't jay Bruce earned any every day start status at this point?
Reds are playing 20 straight, gotta give 'em an off day once.


Arredondo in to pitch.

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 09:21 PM
Bunting down a run with one out in the seventh inning when the pitcher has thrown in excess of 100 pitches is asinine.

Dusty seems to do this a lot. A testament to the bench or his managing style...not sure.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 09:21 PM
Regardless of how they've done it, the Mets have made the plays tonight. Our hitters haven't helped though.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:22 PM
Votto picks it at 1st. One out.

PuffyPig
05-16-2012, 09:22 PM
Hasn't jay Bruce earned any every day start status at this point? On another note, Zack just chased one way outside the zone inside. Ouch.

I think he was simply being rested. You may as well rest him vs. a Santana type guy, assuming you are going to rest him.

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2012, 09:22 PM
The number of pitches thrown is not relevant. Leake was out of the game as a pitcher in any event.

Which makes it worse. Essentially you are saying that Cozart hitting with a man on second with two outs is better than any pinch hitter with one out followed by Cozart. I'm sorry, I can't get behind that logic.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:23 PM
Regardless of how they've done it, the Mets have made the plays tonight. Our hitters haven't helped though.
The good news is the back of the Mets bullpen is fairly Cubs-esque, with their closer Frank Francisco in particular struggling mightily.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:23 PM
Baxter K's. 2 out.

PuffyPig
05-16-2012, 09:24 PM
Which makes it worse. Essentially you are saying that Cozart hitting with a man on second with two outs is better than any pinch hitter with one out followed by Cozart. I'm sorry, I can't get behind that logic.


I agree that there should not have been a bunt.

But why do you think the number of pitches is relevant?

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 09:25 PM
Arredondo is pitching filthy. Wow.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:25 PM
Wright hits it up the middle, right where BP is playing. 3-2 Mets after 7.

PuffyPig
05-16-2012, 09:25 PM
The good news is the back of the Mets bullpen is fairly Cubs-esque, with their closer Frank Francisco in particular struggling mightily.

Is he still their closer?

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2012, 09:26 PM
I agree that there should not have been a bunt.

But why do you think the number of pitches is relevant?

Because its obvious he's done. You must pinch hit and swing the bat.

alloverjr
05-16-2012, 09:27 PM
Stubbs will start it off here.

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 09:27 PM
I really think dusty lets the pitcher hit in the half inning before he knows the pitcher is done is because he has no other better options on the bench. That is amazing considering the bench players are primarily getting paid to hit and field.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:28 PM
Is he still their closer?
I believe so, he got a shaky save the other day after Collins gave him the vote of confidence. It's possible he'll mix and match though.


Stubbs singles to start the 8th.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:28 PM
Sometimes I get the feeling from you guys that there is NEVER an appropriate time to bunt. Is there? (I didn't have a big problem with that call btw)

alloverjr
05-16-2012, 09:29 PM
Nice baserunning!

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:29 PM
Votto singles and stretches it into a (close) double! 2nd and 3rd, no outs.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:31 PM
BP singles! 3-3 game, Votto to third.

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 09:31 PM
Good baserunning reds.

alloverjr
05-16-2012, 09:31 PM
BP on an 0-2 pitch - nice

PuffyPig
05-16-2012, 09:32 PM
Because its obvious he's done. You must pinch hit and swing the bat.

Baker knew Leake was done as a pitcher. He wanted him hitting/bunting.

The number of pitches was not relevant to him.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 09:32 PM
Heisey back to normal

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:32 PM
Bad at-bat by Heisey, immediately pops up near 1st. 1 out.

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 09:32 PM
Poor ab Heisey. First pitch pop up.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:32 PM
Bruce pinch hitting for Ludwick, Collins countering with a lefty.

alloverjr
05-16-2012, 09:33 PM
Bruce pinch hitting for Ludwick, Collins countering with a lefty.

Safety squeeze. OK, won't happen.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:34 PM
The lefty coming in....Byrdak. :O) He brings back fond memories.

Marty Brennaman Calls Jay Bruce's Walk-Off HR to Clinch NL Central - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUqF9pocXhc)

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:35 PM
The lefty coming in....Byrdak.

Marty Brennaman Calls Jay Bruce's Walk-Off HR to Clinch NL Central - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUqF9pocXhc)
I'll settle for a sac fly. :lol:

PuffyPig
05-16-2012, 09:35 PM
Safety squeeze. OK, won't happen.

I would hope not.

Bruce is 4-10 vs. this pitcher, 2 walks, 2 HR's and a 1.600 OPS.

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2012, 09:35 PM
Baker knew Leake was done as a pitcher. He wanted him hitting/bunting.

The number of pitches was not relevant to him.

Yes, I know. Preferring Leake to a pinch hitter is either A) dumb or B) a clear sign that this team is in serious trouble with its bench.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:36 PM
Bruce with a deep flyout to right for the sac fly! 4-3 Reds. Two outs.

PuffyPig
05-16-2012, 09:37 PM
Yes, I know. Preferring Leake to a pinch hitter is either A) dumb or B) a clear sign that this team is in serious trouble with its bench.

I didn't mind Leake hitting as he was obviously seeing the ball well, and he's a good hitter generally.

Having him bunt was the problem.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:37 PM
That'll work Jay. :O)

alloverjr
05-16-2012, 09:37 PM
Bruce with a deep flyout to right for the sac fly! 4-3 Reds. Two outs.

Ball just doesn't carry there. Thought that was gone. Or I'm use to GASP.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 09:37 PM
Jay just missed it. How do you put a reliable hitter on the bench with this team?

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 09:38 PM
Yes, I know. Preferring Leake to a pinch hitter is either A) dumb or B) a clear sign that this team is in serious trouble with its bench.

It's both. I think dusty was valuing moving the base runner up without burning a pinch hitter. He did the same thing on sat when I was there and latos couldn't do the job.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:38 PM
Jay just missed it. How do you put a reliable hitter on the bench with this team?

It's been said several times. 20 straight days with a game. Gotta rest guys sometime or the whole team will be dragging at the end of it.

TheNext44
05-16-2012, 09:39 PM
Yes, I know. Preferring Leake to a pinch hitter is either A) dumb or B) a clear sign that this team is in serious trouble with its bench.

All teams with a 12 man pitching staff are in serious trouble with their bench.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 09:39 PM
This wasn't the night to do it. You do that the second day

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:39 PM
It's both. I think dusty was valuing moving the base runner up without burning a pinch hitter. He did the same thing on sat when I was there and latos couldn't do the job.
Worth noting though that Leake didn't go up immediately looking to bunt, he laid it down with 2 strikes in fact.

NJReds
05-16-2012, 09:39 PM
Jay just missed it. How do you put a reliable hitter on the bench with this team?

Giving the guy a day off against a tough lefty and saving him for the right moment. That was a CitiField sac fly ... It's a 3 run homer at GABP.

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 09:40 PM
Wow Frazier.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:40 PM
Frazier!!! :jump: 6-3 reds!

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 09:40 PM
Whoever said their bullpen was junk gets a gold star.

edabbs44
05-16-2012, 09:40 PM
Frazier....BOMB.

Btw, for all the griping about everything, the Reds have 6 runs.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:40 PM
Frazier making Jersey proud :beerme:

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:40 PM
This wasn't the night to do it. You do that the second day

Why?

alloverjr
05-16-2012, 09:40 PM
I think I'm to the point I have more confidence in Valdez or Cairo at 3rd. Frazier's lost at the moment.

Crawls back in hole. :D

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:41 PM
FRAZIER!!!! :jump:

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:41 PM
Whoever said their bullpen was junk gets a gold star.
I'll give my gold star to Sir Charles, I guess his attitude is rubbing off on me.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 09:41 PM
Why?

Gotta put your best against their best pitcher. Also, you want to win the first game of a two game series

redsmetz
05-16-2012, 09:42 PM
Well, a double negative does equal a positive. We're not going to get no runs.

Let's keep this up.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 09:43 PM
Let's keep this up.

You get the second gold star of the night!

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:44 PM
I'll give my gold star to Sir Charles, I guess his attitude is rubbing off on me.

I'll take it proudly. :D Just out of curiosity, will this star speed up my mlb.tv connection? You guys are talking about other stuff by the time I see the Frazier bomb. LOL.

PuffyPig
05-16-2012, 09:44 PM
Gotta put your best against their best pitcher. Also, you want to win the first game of a two game series

Bruce has a .545 OPS vs. Santana and a 1.000 OPS vs. Dickey.

They aren't large sample sizes, but you manage to win the most games in 162.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:44 PM
Bruce staying in, Heisey moves to left. Hanigan in to catch.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:44 PM
Chapman in to pitch

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 09:45 PM
MLB.tv is way slow when many are on there. It's NY baby!

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:45 PM
Gotta put your best against their best pitcher. Also, you want to win the first game of a two game series

Fair argument. But I think the handedness also played a part in Dusty picking tonight for his rest.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:46 PM
Duda K's, the first time he's been retired tonight.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:46 PM
Murphy grounds out to 1st. 2 outs.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 09:47 PM
Fair argument. But I think the handedness also played a part in Dusty picking tonight for his rest.

Dusty confuses me. He brags about hitting lefties and then rests him because a southpaw is on the mound. He's Yogi in disguise

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:48 PM
Ike Davis didn't stand a chance as he K's. 6-3 Reds after 8.

alloverjr
05-16-2012, 09:48 PM
That was nasty

Virginia Beach Reds
05-16-2012, 09:48 PM
Chapman. Wow. Quick work.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 09:48 PM
I'd leave Chapman in, but I'm sure we'll see Marshall

Plus Plus
05-16-2012, 09:49 PM
Chapman is due up this inning, so let there be no doubt.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:50 PM
Costanzo hitting for Chapman.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:50 PM
Dusty confuses me. He brags about hitting lefties and then rests him because a southpaw is on the mound. He's Yogi in disguise

There was another part to his reasoning IIRC. He said something about wanting to try to get Ludwick going before the AL games (DH I'd assume). And with Heisey finally starting to swing...it's not a good time to rest him either.

At the end of the day, there's probably never a perfect day to rest your star players. So he kinda had to pick his poison.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:51 PM
Costanzo grounds out to 1st. 1 out.

Tony Cloninger
05-16-2012, 09:51 PM
Dusty confuses me. He brags about hitting lefties and then rests him because a southpaw is on the mound. He's Yogi in disguise

It's one game. 1. He should have done it against Wandy Rodriguez but he chose this guy.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:51 PM
Nobody commented on the fact that Dusty pulled Mes for Hanny when Chapman came in. Odd.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:51 PM
Cozart flies out to CF. 2 out.

Marshall is warming.

PuffyPig
05-16-2012, 09:51 PM
Dusty confuses me. He brags about hitting lefties and then rests him because a southpaw is on the mound. He's Yogi in disguise

Dusty is confusing to be sure.

But Bruce has 2 hits and no walks in 11 AB's vs. Santana. Assuming he was going to give Bruce a rest sometime soon, this was a good time. Santana has given up a .282 OPS this year vs. LH hitters, though he isn't historically particularly better.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 09:52 PM
Nobody commented on the fact that Dusty pulled Mes for Hanny when Chapman came in. Odd.

Doubt Mes is ready for Chapman yet.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:53 PM
Stubbs grounds out to short (and off the pitcher, I think). 6-3 Reds to the bottom of the 9th.

Tony Cloninger
05-16-2012, 09:53 PM
Costanzo grounds out to 1st. 1 out.

Did he at least take a pitch? He is a Baker dream.....aggressive and swinging right out of the bench.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:53 PM
Doubt Mes is ready for Chapman yet.

Didn't he catch him in Louisville?

alloverjr
05-16-2012, 09:53 PM
Nobody commented on the fact that Dusty pulled Mes for Hanny when Chapman came in. Odd.

I just assumed he double switched, Hanny in the 9 hole and pitcher 8th. Since he didn't that is odd.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 09:54 PM
Coco Marshall to the mound.

PuffyPig
05-16-2012, 09:54 PM
Nobody commented on the fact that Dusty pulled Mes for Hanny when Chapman came in. Odd.

It wasn't a double switch, good catch. He could have put Hannigan in the pitchers spot, and saved himself a PH. Very strange.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 09:55 PM
I just assumed he double switched, Hanny in the 9 hole and pitcher 8th. Since he didn't that is odd.

He even confuses Puffy, me and you.. I swear, he just makes no sense sometimes.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:55 PM
It wasn't a double switch, good catch. He could have put Hannigan in the pitchers spot, and saved himself a PH. Very strange.

Especially since Dusty tends to save his back-up catcher in a game most times....just in case. I understand the defensive replacement...but for catcher? And Mes is no slouch back there. Just odd.

Tony Cloninger
05-16-2012, 09:55 PM
Coco Marshall to the mound.

Why do you keep saying this? Only Rivera gets 1-2-3 about every game. Don't get it.

NJReds
05-16-2012, 09:55 PM
I don't get the Dusty bashing for resting Bruce against Santana with a 1 pm start tomorrow. Bruce isn't playing 162 ... Today was as good a day as any.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 09:56 PM
Why do you keep saying this? Only Rivera gets 1-2-3 about every game. Don't get it.

Think that's the first time I've said that, but I was just joking.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:57 PM
Turner grounds out to 3rd. 1 out.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:57 PM
Why do you keep saying this? Only Rivera gets 1-2-3 about every game. Don't get it.

I think it was somebody else who was saying that. Don't recall who though.

PuffyPig
05-16-2012, 09:57 PM
Marshall with a 19-3 K/W ratio in 13 innings.

He's the bizarro Coco. He's Gammy.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 09:57 PM
I don't get the Dusty bashing for resting Bruce against Santana with a 1 pm start tomorrow. Bruce isn't playing 162 ... Today was as good a day as any.
Did not know that. Changes my mind somewhat.

Tony Cloninger
05-16-2012, 09:58 PM
Think that's the first time I've said that, but I was just joking.

Nope. You said it last time he came in as well. I get the joke but since your positivity tends to run on a limited basis....I did not get the comparison.

And I understand positivity is not something I have been feeling too much about this team since June of last year.

Puffy
05-16-2012, 09:58 PM
He even confuses Puffy

He doesn't confuse me.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2012, 09:59 PM
I'm not sure which I like watching more. A great Marshall curveball, or Chapman's mechanics. Tough call.

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 09:59 PM
Nasty K of Nickeas. 2 outs.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 09:59 PM
He doesn't confuse me.
Should have put the Pig at the end of it. Sorry

PuffyPig
05-16-2012, 10:00 PM
He doesn't confuse me.

I think he was referring to me. And he doesn't confuse me per se, though I don't always agree with him.

PuffyPig
05-16-2012, 10:00 PM
Should have put the Pig at the end of it.

That's what she said......

Tom Servo
05-16-2012, 10:01 PM
Hairston gets one past the infield. 1 on, 2 out. Niewenhuis up.

Nope, Torres pinch hitting for Niewenhuis.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 10:01 PM
Nope. You said it last time he came in as well. I get the joke but since your positivity tends to run on a limited basis....I did not get the comparison.

And I understand positivity is not something I have been feeling too much about this team since June of last year.
Got a better memory than me. Oh well. I'm over that negativity thing for the most part, but I will comment when I see things that are bad or don't make any sense.

Tony Cloninger
05-16-2012, 10:01 PM
This just in.... Coco went 1-2-3 against the yankees to close out a Jays win. :D

NJReds
05-16-2012, 10:02 PM
Ballgame ... Nice win.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2012, 10:02 PM
That's what she said......

PP's a lady? I need to apologize.