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Plus Plus
05-17-2012, 10:46 AM
Cozart 6, Stubbs 8, Votto 3, Phillips 4, Bruce 9, Ludwick 7, Frazier 5, Hanigan 2, Latos RHP

https://twitter.com/#!/Reds/status/203118599165067265

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 10:53 AM
Meet the Mets for todays game:

1. Andres Torres (S) CF
2. Kirk Nieuwenhuis (L) LF
3. David Wright (R) 3B
4. Lucas Duda (L) RF
5. Daniel Murphy (L) 2B
6. Ike Davis (L) 1B
7. Ronny Cedeno (R) SS
8. Mike Nickeas (R) C
9. R.A. Dickey (R) P

Shame on Collins for not breaking up the leftys.

lollipopcurve
05-17-2012, 11:40 AM
Lefties have murdered Dickey this year, while he's mastered righties. If I were making out the lineup, Costanzo would be at 3rd and Frazier in left.

Hopefully, Ludwick, who appears to be on a long leash, will surprise me.

fisch11
05-17-2012, 11:42 AM
Shame on Collins for not breaking up the leftys.

Played in Chapman's favor last night. Not that it would have mattered much. Couldn't have hit him with an oar at the plate.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 02:10 PM
Marty & Chris doing the radio broadcast today.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 02:13 PM
Cozart flies to CF to start this one off.

Gallen5862
05-17-2012, 02:14 PM
Thanks for the pbp.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 02:15 PM
A backward K for Stubbs. Two away

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 02:15 PM
Votto taps back to mound to end an easy inning for Dickey.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 02:19 PM
Torres flies to CF.

elfmanvt07
05-17-2012, 02:21 PM
Our seats.

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cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 02:22 PM
I've lost my connection through MLB.com. Someone else may need to PBP. I have a feeling I'm going to have trouble with this today.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 02:24 PM
Can't do full PBP, but Wright with a two out double.

I'll fill in when I can.

Wright steals third.

cbowen2112
05-17-2012, 02:27 PM
Hanigan having trouble receiving Latos today...many strikes called balls. And then Wright doubles into left and steals third....wow.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 02:28 PM
K, inning over.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 02:33 PM
Phillips GO and Bruce K's. Ludrock up now.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 02:34 PM
Ludrock bloops a single into RF.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 02:38 PM
Frazier K's to end the inning.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 02:40 PM
Murphy a leadoff double.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 02:42 PM
Davis flies to RF and Murphy goes to third.

Reds Freak
05-17-2012, 02:43 PM
Seems Latos is struggling with his control again...

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 02:44 PM
Cedeno bunts for an out but Murphy doesn't go anywhere. Two away.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 02:45 PM
Seems Latos is struggling with his control again...

Yes he's falling behind nearly everyone.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 02:45 PM
K, ends the inning.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 02:46 PM
A K to end the 2nd. No score

OesterPoster
05-17-2012, 02:47 PM
35 pitches through 2 already for Latos. Needs a couple quick innings to last past the 5th today.

CySeymour
05-17-2012, 02:50 PM
35 pitches through 2 already for Latos. Needs a couple quick innings to last past the 5th today.

Seems to be a recurring theme with Latos so far this season.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 02:51 PM
Easy 1-2-3 inning for Dickey and the Mets. No score in the third.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 02:52 PM
Seems to be a recurring theme with Latos so far this season.

He walks too many, doesn't have pin point control, needs to go deeper into games.

But Latos is very effective and is still young. Has the makings of an ace IMO.

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2012, 02:53 PM
Knuckleball pitchers are no fun.

OesterPoster
05-17-2012, 02:56 PM
He walks too many, doesn't have pin point control, needs to go deeper into games.

But Latos is very effective and is still young. Has the makings of an ace IMO.

2010 - averaged 5.94 innings per start
2011 - averaged 6.26 innings per start

Hopefully the trend continues.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 02:57 PM
Two Ks to start the inning by Latos.

This kid throws like a real starting pitcher. Win or lose today, I'm very pleased with Latos.

Nuenheis singles, Wright up.

OesterPoster
05-17-2012, 02:59 PM
Interesting scout stat that just popped up on Gameday. Latos holds batters to a .208 average within the first 45 pitches. They hit .340 after that.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 03:02 PM
Steal of second. Full count to Wright hitting .407. Walks, two on.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 03:04 PM
K, inning over.

OesterPoster
05-17-2012, 03:05 PM
Another high count inning, 19 in the 3rd, and he's up to 56 already.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 03:07 PM
Another high count inning, 19 in the 3rd, and he's up to 56 already.

Yeah, but he has five strikeouts in three innings. He should be good for six, possibly seven.

Stubbs Ks, which happens sometimes.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 03:08 PM
HR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kc61
05-17-2012, 03:08 PM
Votto ain't afraid of no knuckleball.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 03:08 PM
Amazing how much you can count on Votto!

Kc61
05-17-2012, 03:10 PM
Teams are going to start intentionally walking Votto with nobody on. That will force Walt and Dusty's hand on the cleanup spot.

CySeymour
05-17-2012, 03:11 PM
Teams are going to start intentionally walking Votto with nobody on. That will force Walt and Dusty's hand on the cleanup spot.

No it won't. Dusty will insist on a right handed veteran hitter there.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 03:11 PM
No it won't. Dusty will insist on a right handed veteran hitter there.

Well, maybe we'll get a better right handed veteran hitter.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 03:12 PM
6 Ks for Dickey as inning ends, 1-0 good guys.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 03:13 PM
Votto is the only one who can hit a knuckler apparently. There's your run Latos. Holdem.

WildcatFan
05-17-2012, 03:17 PM
Cowboy said you've got to put Hanigan in front of Votto because of his high OBP. I'm scared. Who here stole the real Brantley?

OesterPoster
05-17-2012, 03:17 PM
Cowboy said you've got to put Hanigan in front of Votto because of his high OBP. I'm scared. Who here stole the real Brantley?

I start by looking at the local UDF.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 03:19 PM
Joey seems to have made a missplay allowing the leadoff man to reach base.

Stubbs then tracks down a deep fly ball by Davis. Drew handled the wall very well on that long drive.

OesterPoster
05-17-2012, 03:20 PM
Joey seems to have made a missplay allowing the leadoff man to reach base.

Stubbs then tracks down a deep fly ball by Davis. Drew handled the wall very well on that long drive.

It was a line drive which ripped apart Votto's glove.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 03:21 PM
It was a line drive which ripped apart Votto's glove.

Yep, there was a glove delay to get him a new one.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 03:23 PM
Yes, I see they gave Murphy a base hit, wasn't your fault Joey.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 03:23 PM
Fourth consecutive inning ended by a strikeout by Latos.

OesterPoster
05-17-2012, 03:24 PM
That was better by Latos. 12 pitch inning, 68 total through 4.

Cyclone792
05-17-2012, 03:25 PM
Latos with four scoreless, six strikeouts and only one walk. Solid outing so far, albeit with a somewhat high pitch count. Plus by striking out Nickeas to end the 4th inning, the Mets are forced to leadoff with Dickey in the 5th.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 03:30 PM
HBP and BB to start the Reds' fifth inning. Bottom of the order coming up, with Hanigan next.

Cyclone792
05-17-2012, 03:30 PM
Ludwick hit by a pitch and Frazier walks. Hanigan up, 1st and 2nd for the Reds with nobody out. It'd be nice to dent the plate a bit this inning.

Cyclone792
05-17-2012, 03:31 PM
Hanigan drives one off the wall in center! Ludwick scores, Frazier to 3rd, Hanigan on second after a double. 2-0.

OesterPoster
05-17-2012, 03:31 PM
Ludwick plunked, Frazier worked a walk. Hannigan double. Woo-hoo.

2-0

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 03:31 PM
Hanigan doubles in a run. 2-0 Reds. Dickey having control problems this inning. A walk and HBP preceded the Hanigan double.

RichRed
05-17-2012, 03:32 PM
Hanigan drives one off the wall in center! Ludwick scores, Frazier to 3rd, Hanigan on second after a double. 2-0.

Look how good things happen when you start posting!

Kc61
05-17-2012, 03:35 PM
Hanigan's power numbers may have helped there. CF may not have respected his occasional power. Ball went over CF's head and couldn't be caught.

Latos, SF, Reds up by 3.

cumberlandreds
05-17-2012, 03:35 PM
SF for Latos. 3-0 A good AB by Latos. He really battled Dickey.

Cyclone792
05-17-2012, 03:35 PM
Look how good things happen when you start posting!

Nice, quiet afternoon in the office, good for taking in a ballgame on the radio!

Latos hits a sac fly on a full count to score Frazier, Hanigan to 3rd. Reds up 3-0.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 03:36 PM
Dickey with a bunch of wild pitches, one actually gets through, Hanigan scores, 4-0.

MasonBuzz3
05-17-2012, 03:36 PM
Mets C is having all kinds of problems

Degenerate39
05-17-2012, 03:37 PM
Just missed a home run there

Kc61
05-17-2012, 03:41 PM
Hanigan is such a good ballplayer. I remember when he was virtually a non-prospect in the system. Really glad he's a Red.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 03:43 PM
One on, one out for Mets in the fifth.

Two on two out, as Latos intelligently walks Wright.

Duda fouling off a bunch of pitches, pitch count over 80 at this point.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 03:54 PM
Two run double, 4-2. Not a great angle by Bruce, but he wasn't catching that ball anyway.

Latos gets Murphy on fly out, end of fifth, 4-2 ballgame Reds.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 04:01 PM
Votto got on somehow (surprise) and Phillips doubled him to third.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:02 PM
Well that didn't work at all.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 04:02 PM
Votto out by a mile trying to score on foul out by Bruce. Too bad. BP to third.

Ground out, nothing doing in the sixth. Tough inning.

Plus Plus
05-17-2012, 04:03 PM
That was some really stupid baserunning.

No runs after 2nd and 3rd with 0 out.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:03 PM
2nd and 3rd with no outs, no runs in. Disappointing, but we are still up by 2.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:07 PM
also I think after just 2 games Lucas Duda is officially a Reds killer.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:10 PM
Latos with a 4 pitch walk to Davis to start off. Not good.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:11 PM
Ronny Cedeno with a hit past Frazier. 1st and 2nd, no outs.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 04:12 PM
I don't see Latos remaining in this game. I would remove him now.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:12 PM
Latos done with 100 pitches, Hoover coming in.

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2012, 04:15 PM
Time to find out Hoover's worth.

Puffy
05-17-2012, 04:16 PM
Hoover needs to clean up this mess.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 04:17 PM
Frazier can't field the bunt, bases loaded.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:18 PM
Ugh. Nickeas with a bunt, Frazier can't pick it up. Bases juiced. No outs.

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2012, 04:18 PM
U-G-L-Y

Kc61
05-17-2012, 04:19 PM
Sac fly, one run game. One out.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:19 PM
Sac fly by Baxter. 4-3 Reds, 1 out. Runners still on 1st and 2nd.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:20 PM
Torres pops up to 3rd in foul territory. 2 outs.

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2012, 04:20 PM
Big out, one more to go. C'mon Hoover

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:21 PM
Niewenhuis up, Wright looms on deck. Boy not getting a run in last inning suddenly looks big right about now.

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2012, 04:21 PM
Hoover getting squeezed a bit

M2
05-17-2012, 04:22 PM
Is Hoover getting squeezed as bad as it looks like he is on Gameday?

Kc61
05-17-2012, 04:23 PM
K to end inning.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:23 PM
Newenhuis K's! Way to go Hoover!

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2012, 04:24 PM
Big time pitching by Hoover.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 04:24 PM
That was a huge out with Wright up next, now he has to lead off the seventh.

Hopefully the Reds can tack on a run or two.

klw
05-17-2012, 04:25 PM
Hoover sucked the life out of that inning for the Mets! Nice job by the kid.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-17-2012, 04:26 PM
Hoover cleans up mess left by latos

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:26 PM
Frazier with a leadoff double.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 04:27 PM
Let's not waste this oppty. Need to get Frazier in.

Hanigan bunting, Costanzo on deck.

Do not see a bunt here. Now it's off.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:30 PM
Hanigan K's, a rare feat.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:31 PM
Costanzo flies out to right. Well hit, but not in a good spot. 2 out.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:33 PM
Cozart K's. Another scoring opportunity squandered. 4-3 Reds going to the bottom of 7.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:36 PM
Chapman time.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 04:36 PM
Looks like Chapman, Ondrusek, and Marshall to try and take this one home.

Wright up, ergo Chapman.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-17-2012, 04:36 PM
Chapman in for 7th and 8th? This'll burn him for tomorrow and maybe Saturday vs. the yanks.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 04:37 PM
I think Aroldis is in here because Duda and Murphy are lefties.

757690
05-17-2012, 04:38 PM
Yea! Dusty understands leverage and brings in Chapman to face the heart of the lineup.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:39 PM
Leadoff walk to Wright. Stinks, but Wright battled him.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-17-2012, 04:41 PM
Swell.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:41 PM
Uh oh. Reds Killer Duda with a base knock. 1st and 2nd, no outs.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 04:41 PM
Two on now, this game is becoming difficult.

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2012, 04:41 PM
Bloop hit, does Murphy bunt?

MasonBuzz3
05-17-2012, 04:42 PM
if anyone can get out of this it would be Aroldis, esp with two lefties coming up

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2012, 04:42 PM
Chapman's velocity is down a bit today.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:43 PM
Chapman's velocity is down a bit today.
I suppose, if 96-98 is considered 'down'.

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2012, 04:44 PM
Unreal

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:44 PM
Arrrrrgh. Stubbs can't come up with it. Bases juiced, no outs.

Sea Ray
05-17-2012, 04:44 PM
He doesn't pitch in back to back days very often

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:45 PM
Watching this is like a slow death.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-17-2012, 04:45 PM
Defense is killing the reds. Chapman in all sorts of danger.

WildcatFan
05-17-2012, 04:45 PM
Let's get em here, Aroldis. If anybody can get out of this, he can.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:45 PM
Turner with a sac fly. Tie game. Runner advances to third. 1st and 3rd, 1 out.

WildcatFan
05-17-2012, 04:46 PM
Let's get em here, Aroldis. If anybody can get out of this, he can.

That one's my bad.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-17-2012, 04:46 PM
And chapman is unscored upon no more.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 04:47 PM
And chapman is unscored upon no more.

Could be unearned, though. Stubbs play was an error.

lollipopcurve
05-17-2012, 04:50 PM
Chapman has not pitched back to back games all year. The rap on him as a reliever is that he doesn't bounce back on consecutive days. Yet, Baker's style is to overrely on his top 2-3 BP guys, thus Chapman will be vulnerable to misuse by DB, IMO. Dusty could only resist so long.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:51 PM
Ronny Cedeno K's. 2 out.

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2012, 04:51 PM
Unearned run

MikeS21
05-17-2012, 04:52 PM
It' NY and that means the Aroldis Champman mystique" will play up this weekend - especially against the Yankees.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 04:53 PM
It' NY and that means the Aroldis Champman mystique" will play up this weekend - especially against the Yankees.

Yeah, but Aroldis won't be pitching tomorrow. Not after these back to back outings, with 30 pitches this inning.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:54 PM
Walk to Scott Hairston. Bases loaded again, still 2 outs.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-17-2012, 04:54 PM
Ugly

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2012, 04:54 PM
Better get him out.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:54 PM
The problem today is Chapman isn't locating the zone as well, and you can tell that when they get 3 balls the hitters are taking all the way.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 04:56 PM
K, ends inning.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:56 PM
Baxter K's and he's mad about it. 4-4 after 7.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-17-2012, 04:56 PM
You gotta think that chapman is out the first two Yankees games after this

Sea Ray
05-17-2012, 04:56 PM
Seeing as he does have trouble with back to back outings, is setup really the best place for him?

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2012, 04:56 PM
Could have been worse.

Sea Ray
05-17-2012, 04:57 PM
It's bullpen vs bullpen now. Advantage:Reds

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:59 PM
It's bullpen vs bullpen now. Advantage:Reds
I like the way you think, let's hope that is the case.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 04:59 PM
Stubbs flies out to short right. 1 out.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 05:00 PM
Seeing as he does have trouble with back to back outings, is setup really the best place for him?

Closers pitch back to back. Starters pitch 200 innings. Pitchers get used, that's the nature of the job.

He allowed an unearned run, he didn't get tagged for 7.

It's fine, he just should be rested tomorrow and maybe Saturday. I'm sure Walt will tell Dusty.

RichRed
05-17-2012, 05:00 PM
Cyclone stopped posting and things went to hell.

RedlegJake
05-17-2012, 05:01 PM
Great job by the kid Hoover. And Chappy, even when he looks terrible looks great really. 2 Ks, 1 unearned run.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 05:02 PM
Votto grounds out to 2nd. 2 out.

RedlegJake
05-17-2012, 05:02 PM
Bats need to pick this game up and get this team 3 games over

lollipopcurve
05-17-2012, 05:03 PM
Seeing as he does have trouble with back to back outings, is setup really the best place for him?

It is not. Especially on a team managed by our current skipper. Chapman is a stallion, not a mule.

REDREAD
05-17-2012, 05:03 PM
Time for some more late game heroics :)

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 05:03 PM
BP singles to center. 1 on, 2 out.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 05:05 PM
Bruce K's. Not a good day at the plate for the Boss. 4-4 to the bottom of the 8th.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 05:07 PM
Ondrusek in to pitch.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 05:09 PM
Torres K's. 1 out.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 05:09 PM
Rob Johnson lays down a perfect bunt single. 1 on, 1 out.

Reds Freak
05-17-2012, 05:10 PM
Mets have had baserunners all day. Has there been a 1-2-3 inning?

Kc61
05-17-2012, 05:12 PM
Mets have had baserunners all day. Has there been a 1-2-3 inning?

Key so far is that inning when the Reds had second and third, no out, and didn't score. Reds pitching has been acceptable so far.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 05:13 PM
Man, Wright is just locked in. Another battle between he and a Reds reliever.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 05:13 PM
Wright doubles. Mets go up 5-4. Damn.

hebroncougar
05-17-2012, 05:14 PM
Except he took strike 3 right down the middle, and it didn't get called. I mean right down the middle. Good god.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-17-2012, 05:14 PM
Ballgame. Nice job reds.

fearofpopvol1
05-17-2012, 05:14 PM
This has been 1 disappointing game, blowing a 4-0 lead to be down 5-4.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 05:14 PM
Ballgame. Nice job reds.
Thanks for that contribution.

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2012, 05:15 PM
Not meant to be, errors, borderline calls against the Reds, poor base running, just not going to happen.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 05:16 PM
Not meant to be, errors, borderline calls against the Reds, poor base running, just not going to happen.
Plus it's not like Chapman and Ondrusek were going to go the whole year without being scored on.

Blitz Dorsey
05-17-2012, 05:16 PM
I've seen a lot of horrible balls-strikes calls in my day. That one might have taken the prize. 2-2 on Wright, right down the middle, and it's somehow called a ball! Then Wright doubles on the next pitch. Amazing. I mean, that wasn't even close. I re-wound it. Wow.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 05:16 PM
Duda flies out to right. 2 out.


Keep in mind though folks that the Mets bullpen is still susceptible to failure.

fearofpopvol1
05-17-2012, 05:16 PM
I've seen a lot of horrible balls-strikes calls in my day. That one might have taken the prize. 2-2 on Wright, right down the middle, and it's somehow called a ball! Then Wright doubles on the next pitch. Amazing.

Agreed. Even Ron Darling said it was a strike.

Strikes Out Looking
05-17-2012, 05:17 PM
Agreed. Even Ron Darling said it was a strike.

And he has an Ivy League education.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-17-2012, 05:18 PM
This has been 1 disappointing game, blowing a 4-0 lead to be down 5-4.

2nd and 3rd no outs in 6th = 0 runs

2nd with no outs in 7th = 0 runs

Shoddy defense at 3B and CF, poor baserunning, and another mediocre start from mat latos, who was handed a 4-run lead and could only go 5 innings.

fearofpopvol1
05-17-2012, 05:19 PM
2nd and 3rd no outs in 6th = 0 runs

2nd with no outs in 7th = 0 runs

Shoddy defense at 3B and CF, poor baserunning, and another mediocre start from mat latos, who was handed a 4-run lead and could only go 5 innings.

I think you're spot on. It's hard to blame any one player today, but the amount of blunders and mental mistakes today has been disappointing.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 05:20 PM
Of course a stupid little bloop hit falls. 6-4 Mets.

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2012, 05:20 PM
Add bloop hits to the list.

fearofpopvol1
05-17-2012, 05:20 PM
Justin Turner hits a pop fly single and Wright scores. 6-4.

Very disappointing.

hebroncougar
05-17-2012, 05:21 PM
It's not over folks..........maybe before the end, we'll get a break or two. That's baseball.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 05:21 PM
Guess this is balanced baseball karma. We won yesterday when it mostly looked like we should have lost, we're likely gonna lose today when we it looked like we should have won.

fearofpopvol1
05-17-2012, 05:21 PM
It's not over folks..........maybe before the end, we'll get a break or two. That's baseball.

One can hope. But 6 unanswered is pretty awful, especially when you have a 4 run lead.

Edit: no chance now. The Reds aren't going to score 5 runs in the 9th.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 05:22 PM
Well that'll do it. 9-4 Mets.

fearofpopvol1
05-17-2012, 05:22 PM
3 run shot by Cedeno.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 05:22 PM
Ronny...bleepin...Cedeno

hebroncougar
05-17-2012, 05:22 PM
Well..........maybe not..............:eek:Just not our day.

WVRedsFan
05-17-2012, 05:23 PM
Well, so much for the flawless records of Chapman and Ondrusek...had to happen sometime.

Tom Servo
05-17-2012, 05:23 PM
Latos is going to need to be more efficient and pitch deeper into ballgames in order to prevent things like this from happening.

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2012, 05:24 PM
The bad thing is, Logan and Chapman were used in this mess.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-17-2012, 05:25 PM
Total collapse by the pitching today. But hey, the next seven games are against the Yankees and Braves!

WVRedsFan
05-17-2012, 05:25 PM
It's bullpen vs bullpen now. Advantage:Reds

oh boy. Not this time.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 05:26 PM
Latos is going to need to be more efficient and pitch deeper into ballgames in order to prevent things like this from happening.

I think that is a fair statement of today's lesson. A+

fearofpopvol1
05-17-2012, 05:29 PM
The bad thing is, Logan and Chapman were used in this mess.

and almost assuredly won't be available tomorrow night.

I give both Chapman and Ondrusek passes. They have been nearly flawless for 6 weeks. Can't ask for more than that. Just not happy with the other things (Frazier and Stubbs' defense, Latos' mediocre performance, and the missed strike call on Wright namely).

redsfaninbsg
05-17-2012, 05:29 PM
At what point is Ryan Ludwick not the answer?

reds44
05-17-2012, 05:29 PM
oh boy. Not this time.
Law of averages caught up to ole Logan today.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 05:30 PM
The bad thing is, Logan and Chapman were used in this mess.

I'm sure Chapman will sit tomorrow.

I'm equally sure Logan will pitch if it's a close game.

powersackers
05-17-2012, 05:31 PM
This 91mph pitch and the resulting call from the HP umpire cost this ballgame. Human element anyone?

fearofpopvol1
05-17-2012, 05:31 PM
Well, so much for the flawless records of Chapman and Ondrusek...had to happen sometime.

Chapman is still technically perfect. The run wasn't earned. I thought Chapman, on a day that he didn't have his best stuff, was actually very good. He battled and even though he gave up a run, he still did well. Ondrusek had a miserable day, but that's okay. He deserves a complete pass on this one.

reds44
05-17-2012, 05:32 PM
This 91mph pitch and the resulting call from the HP umpire cost this ballgame. Human element anyone?
Ondrusek not throwing meatballs to Wright and Cedeno would have helped too.

fearofpopvol1
05-17-2012, 05:34 PM
At what point is Ryan Ludwick not the answer?

I'm not sure Heisey is the full-time answer for LF, but I struggle to see how anyone could say that Ludwick is a better option than Heisey at this juncture.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 05:34 PM
Ondrusek not throwing meatballs to Wright and Cedeno would have helped too.

I didn't like the way Ondrusek pitched his previous outing, although there was no damage done. I hope he's not injured in some way.

Otherwise, yes, he was a victim of the law of averages.

It's hard to sweep series on the road. This isn't a disaster by any means. Have to win one or two at Yankee Stadium, can't get swept, need a decent road performance. (In other words, hopefully Cueto will pitch.)

Kc61
05-17-2012, 05:35 PM
Pinch double for Heisey, Reds with two on in the ninth.

Kc61
05-17-2012, 05:36 PM
Game over. Reds did not prevail today.

*BaseClogger*
05-17-2012, 05:42 PM
This 91mph pitch and the resulting call from the HP umpire cost this ballgame. Human element anyone?

Looks like the same right-down-the-middle pitch Ondrusek threw to every other batter that resulted in a hit...

reds44
05-17-2012, 05:49 PM
Looks like the same right-down-the-middle pitch Ondrusek threw to every other batter that resulted in a hit...
Yup.

traderumor
05-17-2012, 05:54 PM
Latos is going to need to be more efficient and pitch deeper into ballgames in order to prevent things like this from happening.Latos is not making anyone forget Volquez.

Big Klu
05-17-2012, 06:13 PM
Congratulations to Joey Votto, who ties Reggie Sanders for 18th place on the Reds' all-time home run list.


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Brandon Phillips - 126
18. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Joey Votto - 125
20. Ernie Lombardi - 120
21. Sean Casey - 118
22. Frank McCormick - 110
22. Jay Bruce - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

cumberlandreds
05-18-2012, 09:26 AM
This Reds team just keep proving to me over and over that they are no better than a .500 team. Dumb misplays in the field and lack of clutch hitting all point to a very mediocre team. We'll see what they can do in Yankee Stadium this weekend. Pitching matchups favor them in the first two and the last game is a great matchup between Cueto and Sabathia.

Sea Ray
05-18-2012, 11:20 AM
This Reds team just keep proving to me over and over that they are no better than a .500 team. Dumb misplays in the field and lack of clutch hitting all point to a very mediocre team. We'll see what they can do in Yankee Stadium this weekend. Pitching matchups favor them in the first two and the last game is a great matchup between Cueto and Sabathia.

First of all they are playing some good teams right now. If they can play .500 through this stretch, that'd be great.

However I don't think they are much better than a .500 team right now. In order to get better, they need a reliever so that Chapman can go into the rotation and they need either a 3B or a LF. I think LF is easier to fill so I think they should be working on that and we'll have to live with Frazier at 3B. But give me a middle reliever and a LF and the mediocre division is ours for the taking. Maybe Bray can be that middle reliever. I don't know but I don't see a LF option in the organization