5/19/12 - Reds at Yankees

[Reds Fanatic]

Reds lineup:

Heisey LF
Stubbs CF
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Frazier 3B
Costanzo DH
Mesoraco C
Valdez SS

Bailey P

[Reds Fanatic]

Yankees lineup:

Jeter SS
Granderson CF
Cano DH
Rodriguez 3B
Ibanez RF
Swisher 1B
Martin C
Wise LF
Nix 2B

Nova P

[hebroncougar]

I think/hope Ludwick's days may be numbered.

[edabbs44]

Back 12 hrs after I left last night. Let's hope the result is better.

[elfmanvt07]

http://img.tapatalk.com/aefc4c7c-d2fa-b94a.jpg

Our seats.

[Vottomatic]

Heisey K's.
Stubbs walks.
Votto up.

[Vottomatic]

Stubbs steals 2nd.

3-1 count on Votto. They will probably walk him.

Yep. They did.

Imagine if Bruce were up now.

[Vottomatic]

Well, BP comes through. So much for my Bruce comments.

1-0 Reds as Stubbs scores. Votto goes to third on BP's single.

[Vottomatic]

Bruce K's. The OBP is staggering. A fly ball gets another run home. Oh well.

[Vottomatic]

Frazier K's.

3 K's in the inning. Good contact.

[REDSEER]

The last two pitches that Frazier missed were very hittable pitches....frustrating

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice catch by Bruce

[Reds Fanatic]

Granderson grounds out to 2nd.
Cano grounds out to 1st.

1-0 Reds after 1

[Reds Fanatic]

Costanzo strikes out swinging. Already 4 Ks for Nova

[Reds Fanatic]

Mesoraco with a ground rule double to right

[Reds Fanatic]

Valdez first swings at a pitch over his head then watches a pitch right down the middle. 5 Ks for Nova

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey doubles to left. 2-0 Reds!

[Reds Fanatic]

Stubbs strikes out swinging. 6 Ks for Nova. 2-0 Reds mid 2nd

[Reds Fanatic]

Rodriguez pops out to 2nd on the first pitch

[Reds Fanatic]

Ibanez grounds out to short. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Swisher flies out to left. 2-0 Reds after 2.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto strikes out swinging. 7 Ks for Nova

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips grounds out to 3rd.

[WVRedsFan]

So far it's a script. The strikeout pitch is pretty much the same thing and all the Reds have bitten on it. Strange.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce strikes out swinging. 8 Ks for Nova. 2-0 Reds mid 3rd.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

9 outs. 8 k's. Saturday wind machines.

[Reds Fanatic]

Martin homers to right. 2-1 Reds.

[WVRedsFan]

Love George's enthusiastic HR calls for the opposition. 2-1 Reds

[Reds Fanatic]

Wise strikes out swinging. 1 out

[Reds Fanatic]

Nix singles to right

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice throw by Devin.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice throw and play by Phillips as Nix is caught stealing

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips may have hurt his wrist a little on that play.

[Reds Fanatic]

Jeter lines out to right. 2-1 Reds after 3.

[Reds Fanatic]

By the way for anyone outside the local area I just realized today's game is being carried on MLB Network

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier flies out to left.

[Reds Fanatic]

Costanzo strikes out swinging. 9 Ks for Nova

[Reds Fanatic]

Mesoraco grounds out to short. 2-1 Reds mid 4th

[WVRedsFan]

Costanzo might be in the minors quicker than you can say "strike three"

[Reds Fanatic]

Granderson walks

[WVRedsFan]

Valdez. Sigh. Oh well.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cano grounds into a 4-6 FC.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Costanzo might be in the minors quicker than you can say "strike three"

It doesn't strike anybody as odd that out "DH" for today has yet to have a MLB hit?

[Reds Fanatic]

Probably was not going to be DP anyway as that was a slow ground ball.

[WVRedsFan]

It doesn't strike anybody as odd that out "DH" for today has yet to have a MLB hit?

Yeah, what happened to Ludwick as DH? Really strange.

[_Sir_Charles_]

*whew* That looked awfully good off the bat.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rodriguez flies out to the track in center. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Tie game. Ibanez doubles to right. 2-2.

[Reds Fanatic]

Swisher strikes out swinging. 2 Ks for Bailey. 2-2 after 4.

[WVRedsFan]

Like most of this team are guess hitters, I think our manager is a guess manager. How else do you explain today's DH and shortstop?

[Reds Fanatic]

Valdez singles to center.

[WVRedsFan]

Heisey is red hot!

[Reds Fanatic]

Perfect bunt hit by Heisey. 1st and 2nd.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I'm not sure, but Heisey might be the best bunter on the club.

[Reds Fanatic]

I hope they leave Heisey in the leadoff spot. I think he could do well here.

[WVRedsFan]

No, Chris, you don't bunt so they can walk Votto. I hate the bunt.

[Reds Fanatic]

Stubbs grounds into a 5-4 FC as Rodriguez bobbles the ball and then recovers. 1st and 3rd.

[_Sir_Charles_]

:jump: VOTTOMATIC!!! GONE!

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto homers to right!!! 5-2 Reds!

[WVRedsFan]

Votto just pounds one out.

[marcshoe]

I walk in, turn on the tv, and Votto hits a three-run homer. Immediately.

[WVRedsFan]

I walk in, turn on the tv, and Votto hits a two-run homer. Immediately.

Stay...:)

[757690]

Clearly Nova was too scared to pitch to Phillips, hence, he grooved one to Votto ;)

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips strikes out swinging. 10 Ks for Nova

[WVRedsFan]

Two strikes and them comes a breaking ball out of the zone and we fan.

[Big Klu]

Congratulations to Joey Votto, who has passed Reggie Sanders and is now tied with Brandon Phillips for 17th place on the Reds' all-time home run list!


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Brandon Phillips - 126
17. Joey Votto - 126
19. Reggie Sanders - 125
20. Ernie Lombardi - 120
21. Sean Casey - 118
22. Frank McCormick - 110
22. Jay Bruce - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

[Reds Fanatic]

11 Ks and Bruce has struck out 3 times. 5-2 Reds mid 5th.

[_Sir_Charles_]

First 32 games...2 hr, 18 rbi's.
Last 7 games....5 hr's, 10 rbi's.

So much for that power-outage from Joey. :O)

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice snag from Hi-C

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice catch by Heisey on the track

[WVRedsFan]

Wow. Did Hi-C misread that or not?

[Reds Fanatic]

Wise strikes out swinging. 3 Ks for Bailey

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nix. Gone.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nix homers to the first row in right. 5-3 Reds

[WVRedsFan]

HR by Nix. 5-3.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Bailey's Achilles' heal....under .200 hitters. :O)

[WVRedsFan]

And now he gets the good guys.

[Reds Fanatic]

Infield hit for Jeter

[_Sir_Charles_]

Makes me wonder if Brandon didn't get hurt on that CS earlier. I think he usually makes that play.

[WVRedsFan]

Time to start the bullpen. Homer is throwing gopher balls.

[Reds Fanatic]

Granderson strikes out swinging. 4 Ks. 5-3 Reds after 5.

[Reds Fanatic]

Though 5 innings:

Bailey 72 pitches
Nova 90 pitches

[_Sir_Charles_]

Time to start the bullpen. Homer is throwing gopher balls.

I'm not so sure. That wind is crazy. I didn't think that the Nix dinger had a shot. And at the same time, the ARod shot looked like it should've left the entire stadium. I get the feeling that it's swirling like CRAZY.

[reds44]

http://mlblogsramsey.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/frazierandjeter.jpg
I bet this makes Jeter feel old.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier strikes out looking. 12 Ks.

[WVRedsFan]

We are a strikeout machine.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Congratulations! Way to go Mike.

I had to erase what I started to write. I was going to say that I felt he might be heading back to Louisville soon and I sure hope he at least gets his first MLB hit. :O)

[Reds Fanatic]

Costanzo gets his first hit a single to left.

[757690]

Now the Reds can send him down ;)

[WVRedsFan]

Mes HBP

[_Sir_Charles_]

Devin HBP. On the hand it looked like.

[Reds Fanatic]

Mesoraco gets hit in the hand. 1st and 2nd.

[RedLegsToday]

Way to take one for the team, Devin!

[Reds Fanatic]

Valdez grounds into a 6-3 DP. 5-3 Reds mid 6th.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Valdez strikes. 6-3 dp.

[marcshoe]

See! The Reds shouldn't have sold Koyie HIll back to the Cubs! If Mes gets hurt, not having Koyie will cost the Reds the pennant!

okay, not really....

[WVRedsFan]

Tell me again...why Valdez?

[RedLegsToday]

Wow, is Valdez Dusty's kind of player, or what? Always attacking that first pitch.

[WVRedsFan]

I'm tired of Dusty.

[Kc61]

Wow, is Valdez Dusty's kind of player, or what? Always attacking that first pitch.

Yeah, he would have hit a 500 foot bomb if he waited for the second pitch.

[marcshoe]

Tell me again...why Valdez?

Because with Janish there were occasional expectations, which breed disappointment.

[WVRedsFan]

Because with Janish there were occasional expectations, which breed disappointment.

Dusty logic. I see you've caught the disease. :)

[Reds Fanatic]

Cano strikes out swinging. 5 Ks for Homer. 1 out.

[Kc61]

Yankees announcers are impressed with Bailey's stuff and are surprised his career numbers aren't better.

Homer has looked impressive his last two starts. I hope he stays sharp here. He has 80 pitches. Ks A Rod. Nice.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Tell me again...why Valdez?

Crystal ball told them that Janish was preparing to break his wrist. Preemptive injury insurance.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rodriguez strikes out swinging. 6 Ks.

[WVRedsFan]

Back to back K's.

[marcshoe]

A few more signs that Bailey's getting there. Slowly.

[marcshoe]

Nice inning.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ibanez flies out to right. 5-3 Reds after 6.

[WVRedsFan]

Quality start for Homer. With 85 pitches, will he pitch the 7th?

[_Sir_Charles_]

85 pitches by Homie.

1 walk, 6 k's, 5 hits, 2:1 strike/ball ratio, 2 hr's (wind aided? Maybe). Regardless, I'll take that.

[Kc61]

Ready? Wilson Valdez is a pretty good backup player. He went to the World Series in that role with the Phillies. He plays nice steady defense at several positions. He's a pure backup infielder, more of a defensive guy, you can't expect too much hitting but he gets a single or double once in awhile.

The comments about Valdez are just picking on the little guy. He's really not the problem. It's the starting players with sub-.300 OBPs who are the problem.

You may now continue discussing this game, which the Reds are winning thankfully.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cody Eppley in to pitch

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey flies out to left.

[Kc61]

Amazing that DeWayne Wise is starting these days for the Yankees. Remember when he was a Reds prospect? Seems like decades ago.

[WVRedsFan]

Ready? Wilson Valdez is a pretty good backup player. He went to the World Series in that role with the Phillies. He plays nice steady defense at several positions. He's a pure backup infielder, more of a defensive guy, you can't expect too much hitting but he gets a single or double once in awhile.

The comments about Valdez are just picking on the little guy. He's really not the problem. It's the starting players with sub-.300 OBPs who are the problem.

You may now continue discussing this game, which the Reds are winning thankfully.
I think the OBP of .195 is the reason and no signs of it getting better.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Ready? Wilson Valdez is a pretty good backup player. He went to the World Series in that role with the Phillies. He plays nice steady defense at several positions. He's a pure backup infielder, more of a defensive guy, you can't expect too much hitting but he gets a single or double once in awhile.

The comments about Valdez are just picking on the little guy. He's really not the problem. It's the starting players with sub-.300 OBPs who are the problem.

You may now continue discussing this game, which the Reds are winning thankfully.

I agree that he's not the problem. Or even A problem. The problem I had with him was that we already had him and for a much cheaper rate in Janish. Nearly identical hitter, better defender, just as versatile. He wasn't needed. /psudo-rant

[Kc61]

I think the OBP of .195 is the reason and no signs of it getting better.

It has to be a very, very small sample, Valdez hardly ever plays. I support Wilson.

[WVRedsFan]

Stubbs is set upp for a K and he walks. Good eye

[Reds Fanatic]

Stubbs walks

[Reds Fanatic]

Pitching change

[Kc61]

I agree that he's not the problem. Or even A problem. The problem I had with him was that we already had him and for a much cheaper rate in Janish. Nearly identical hitter, better defender, just as versatile. He wasn't needed. /psudo-rant

That's fair. Reds obviously felt Janish isn't as good. I view them as basically even.

Yankees seem to want to throw lefties at Votto. One of these games, they will get burned. Joey likes lefties just fine.

[Reds Fanatic]

Clay Rapada in to pitch

[Reds Fanatic]

Stubbs gets picked off

[WVRedsFan]

Stubbs asleep and gets picked off. Now they can walk Joey

[757690]

Stubbs has just the bare minimum of baseball instincts, and that's the nice way of saying it.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Stubbs asleep and gets picked off. Now they can walk Joey

He was leaning, couple that with what looked to be a VERY good move...gone.

[Kc61]

Stubbs asleep and gets picked off. Now they can walk Joey

Stubbs being picked off there with Votto up -- a terrible, terrible, terrible play.

Stubbs can really try a fan's patience.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto flies out to the track in left. 5-3 Reds mid 7th

[Kc61]

With Stubbs' speed, he should be on second base now with Phillips hitting the lefty in an RBI opportunity spot.

Hey Drew, if you want to hit in front of Votto to get good pitches, try not to get picked off on the rare occasion when you are on base.

Man. . . .

[Reds Fanatic]

Swisher lines a single to left

[Kc61]

Swisher singles. Dusty, get up a pitcher and give Homer one or two more batters tops. I don't care about pitch counts.

Manage to win. Chapman and Logan are both rested, as is Marshall.

This isn't about stretching out Homer. Get somebody ready.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ondrusek warming up

[_Sir_Charles_]

Swisher singles. Dusty, get up a pitcher and give Homer one or two more batters tops. I don't care about pitch counts.

Manage to win. Chapman and Logan are both rested, as is Marshall.

This isn't about stretching out Homer. Get somebody ready.

Do you have a bullpen phone next to your computer? That was impressive. :beerme:

[WVRedsFan]

Swisher singles. Dusty, get up a pitcher and give Homer one or two more batters tops. I don't care about pitch counts.

Manage to win. Chapman and Logan are both rested, as is Marshall.

This isn't about stretching out Homer. Get somebody ready.Totally agree.

[Reds Fanatic]

Martin strikes out swinging. 7 Ks.

[_Sir_Charles_]

KKKKKKK

[Kc61]

Strikeout by Bailey. Great. Pitching well.

Keep Logan throwing, though, keep Homer on that short leash.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bailey is at 95 pitches

[Reds Fanatic]

Chavez hitting for Wise

[Reds Fanatic]

Chavez singles to center. 1st and 2nd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ondrusek coming in

[edabbs44]

Homer is done.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Hard to complain about the timing on this one. Nix up, he's swung well off Homer.

[Big Klu]

See! The Reds shouldn't have sold Koyie HIll back to the Cubs! If Mes gets hurt, not having Koyie will cost the Reds the pennant!

okay, not really....

The Reds had Koyie Hill? I must have missed that one.

I guess the question is, "Why?"

[Kc61]

Notice how the Yankees have such a fabulous balance of righty hitters, lefty hitters, switch hitters.

Late innings, Wise a weak hitter up, they pinch hit the lefty Chavez against righty Bailey. Base hit.

If the tables were turned, the Reds would have used Cairo or Ludwick, with the percentages in favor of the pitcher.

Braves are similar. Well balanced offense. Reds, not so much.

C'mon Ondrusek, time to rebound from that last outing.

[Reds Fanatic]

Jones pinch running for Chavez

[Reds Fanatic]

Nix grounds into a 3-6 FC. 1st and 3rd.

[edabbs44]

Chavez is not the Chavez you remember. He is nothing to get excited about.

[Kc61]

Martin strikes out swinging. 7 Ks.


Do you have a bullpen phone next to your computer? That was impressive. :beerme:

Oh do I wish!!!!

[edabbs44]

Aroldis warming.

[marcshoe]

The Reds had Koyie Hill? I must have missed that one.

I guess the question is, "Why?"

I didn't realize it until I saw his name in a story about a Pensacola game. According to Twitter, they signed him April 28 and sent him to the Cubs today.

[Kc61]

Logan v. Jeter with two men on. Great duel here.

0-2, two beautiful pitches by Logan. Chappy throwing. Dusty playing to win. Good.

Jeter fouls to stay alive. All the great hitters foul off those pitches with two strikes.

Let's go Logan.

[Kc61]

Now 2-2 count on Jeter. Great duel continues.

Logan gets the fly ball to Bruce.

Logan is the man.

[Reds Fanatic]

Big out. Jeter flies out to right. 5-3 Reds after 7.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Notice how the Yankees have such a fabulous balance of righty hitters, lefty hitters, switch hitters.


I love ya Kc, but.....:deadhorse:

[marcshoe]

All right. I like the way this one's going.

[Reds Fanatic]

Final numbers for Bailey another good start: 6.I IP, 7H, 3ER, 1BB, 7 K

[Kc61]

I love ya Kc, but.....:deadhorse:

All right. Just complimenting the Yankees. Sorry.

[Reds Fanatic]

David Phelps in to pitch

[_Sir_Charles_]

All right. Just complimenting the Yankees. Sorry.

No biggie. But I know that it was starting to bug some people. :beerme:

[_Sir_Charles_]

Final numbers for Bailey another good start: 6.I IP, 7H, 3ER, 1BB, 7 K

Very solid. Nice to see.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips singles to center.

[Kc61]

Phillips with his second hit of the game.

Time for Bruce to resume his May heroics, like in 2011.

Jay with three Ks today. Lose one, Jay.

[WVRedsFan]

Jay in a slump.

[Kc61]

BTW, given the current personnel, I like the Heisey leading off move.

Bruce walks, good at bat after 0-2 start. Two on, no out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce walks. 1st and 2nd. Good opportunity for some insurance runs.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Jay in a slump.

He can't stay locked in forever. :O) Solid ab there though.

[_Sir_Charles_]

*whew* That should've been a DP.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier bunts. The pitcher makes a diving catch. He then throws to 1st to attempt a DP and throws the ball away. Phillips goes to 3rd. 1st and 3rd with 1 out.

[Kc61]

Don't see bunting with Frazier there. But it worked out ok due to the error. Costanzo, please hit the fly ball, man.

[Kc61]

Costanzo Sac Fly. Nice.

[Reds Fanatic]

Good job. Costanzo sac fly to center. 6-3 Reds.

[marcshoe]

I like having Costanzo DH to get him some at bats, given that the Reds don't have a really natural choice. To me, his hitting lefty is secondary.

[Reds Fanatic]

Good 11 pitch AB. Mesoraco grounds out to 3rd. 6-3 Reds mid 8th.

[Kc61]

Mes grounds out, but that was one heck of an at bat. Fouled off several with two strikes. Didn't lunge after bad pitches. Deep count, really worked the pitcher.

[WVRedsFan]

I like having Costanzo DH to get him some at bats, given that the Reds don't have a really natural choice. To me, his hitting lefty is secondary.

Good in theory, but you want a DH to hit. He's done OK, though. I fear he won't last long up in the bigs, though.

[Reds Fanatic]

Chapman coming in.

Granderson, Cano and Rodriguez due up

[WVRedsFan]

Cozart in.

[Kc61]

I think you have to use Chapman here. But he did have quite a workout at CitiField.

Hope he has an easy inning and is then finished for the day.

[Reds Fanatic]

Valdez moves to 3rd with Cozart in

[WVRedsFan]

Valdez moves to 3rd with Cozart in

That means he bats first next inning. I hate that.

[Kc61]

Chappy falls behind, throwing them low. Now a full count.

K

[Big Klu]

I didn't realize it until I saw his name in a story about a Pensacola game. According to Twitter, they signed him April 28 and sent him to the Cubs today.

Evidently he must have been roster filler. With Navarro and Miller ahead of him in Louisville, he would never get a call-up here.

[Reds Fanatic]

Granderson strikes out swinging on a 99 MPH fastball

[_Sir_Charles_]

Cozart in.

For defense? Kinda negates the Valdez as a backup shortstop theory. If he's not there for defense, what's he there for? His bat?!? Yikes!

~edit~ Just saw they pulled Frazier and moved Wilson to 3rd. Okay, I'll let that slide. :O)

[redsmetz]

Argh! Just finished our yard work and I plopped down in front of the TV just assuming the Reds Yankees game would be on Fox and they're broadcasting soccer. Unbelievable. A rare chance for the Reds to be on broadcast TV and they put soccer on. I hate it.

[WVRedsFan]

Chapman wild today.

[Big Klu]

For defense? Kinda negates the Valdez as a backup shortstop theory. If he's not there for defense, what's he there for? His bat?!? Yikes!

Valdez moves to 3B for Frazier.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Valdez moves to 3B for Frazier.

Yep. Saw that late. My apologies.

[Reds Fanatic]

Argh! Just finished our yard work and I plopped down in front of the TV just assuming the Reds Yankees game would be on Fox and they're broadcasting soccer. Unbelievable. A rare chance for the Reds to be on broadcast TV and they put soccer on. I hate it.

Game is on FSN. It is also on MLB Network nationally

[_Sir_Charles_]

Chapman wild today.

2 k's. Effectively wild? :O)

[Reds Fanatic]

Cano strikes out swinging on a 100 MPH fastball

[Kc61]

Chapman vs. ARod. Worth watching, I'd say. 1-1 count.

[Reds Fanatic]

Good inning. Rodriguez pops out to short. 6-3 Reds after 8

[WVRedsFan]

2 k's. Effectively wild? :O)
Agree. But wild nonetheless.

[Kc61]

That means he bats first next inning. I hate that.

No double switch. DH rule game. Valdez leads off.

[redsmetz]

Game is on FSN. It is also on MLB Network nationally

But as someone without cable, that doesn't do me any good. Listened on the radio while we were working outside and now we're ready to clean up for dinner with friends and I told my wife I'd watch the game while she went first. Alas no game. Sorry to rant, I'm just really disappointed.

[Reds Fanatic]

Valdez strikes out swinging

[Kc61]

Valdez goes full and strikes out on a high fastball which probably would have been ball four.

[WVRedsFan]

Bad AB from Heisey, but all can't be good.

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey strikes out looking

[Reds Fanatic]

But as someone without cable, that doesn't do me any good. Listened on the radio while we were working outside and now we're ready to clean up for dinner with friends and I told my wife I'd watch the game while she went first. Alas no game. Sorry to rant, I'm just really disappointed.

I understand. The next 2 Saturdays they are on Fox

[Reds Fanatic]

Stubbs strikes out looking. 6-3 Reds mid 9th

[_Sir_Charles_]

15 k's on the day. Yikes.

Not all from Stubbs. *grin*

[WVRedsFan]

This team is a strikeout machine. I don't think Drew knows a strike from a ball.

[Kc61]

15 k's on the day. Yikes.

Stubbs probably has 14 of them.

[Reds Fanatic]

Marshall in to pitch

Ibanez, Swisher and Martin due up

[_Sir_Charles_]

This team is a strikeout machine. I don't think Drew knows a strike from a ball.

2 walks today. 2 runs scored. Not a bad day IMO.

[WVRedsFan]

2 walks today.

Lucky guess, and I think he guesses on every pitch. JMO.

[WVRedsFan]

Good grief.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ibanez doubles to right center

[_Sir_Charles_]

Bruce slips, but I think that was a double regardless.

[Vottomatic]

Marshall flirting with disaster AGAIN.

[Kc61]

6-4.

[Reds Fanatic]

Uh oh. Single to center. 6-4 Reds.

[_Sir_Charles_]

dp ball coming right here.

[reds44]

Having Chapman in the bullpen and having Marshall close games makes absolutely no sense. At all. There is zero explanation for it.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Marshall flirting with disaster AGAIN.

You say this like he does it all the time?

[Reds Fanatic]

At some point I do think this team is really going to have to consider switching roles for Chapman and Marshall.

[757690]

Marshall is a great pitcher, but not a closer. If they are going to keep Chapman in the pen, need to think of using him as the closer.

[Vottomatic]

Having Chapman in the bullpen and having Marshall close games makes absolutely no sense. At all. There is zero explanation for it.

This team is hard to be a fan of. They are so frustrating.

[WVRedsFan]

I really don't think Marshall is cut out to be a closer, but here he is by necessity

[Kc61]

Having Chapman in the bullpen and having Marshall close games makes absolutely no sense. At all. There is zero explanation for it.

Chapman faced the heart of the order. If Marshall doesn't have it, he would have been clobbered by the 8th inning group.

You can't hide a guy pitching him in the eighth. Marshall just has to pitch a little better.

He's now ahead of Russell Martin, but he's a tough hitter.

[reds44]

This team is hard to be a fan of. They are so frustrating.
What does Marshall do better than Chapman? They both throw with the same hand. Chapman has better stuff. He's probably the most dominant reliever in baseball right now.

And he's not closing.

[757690]

Having Chapman in the bullpen and having Marshall close games makes absolutely no sense. At all. There is zero explanation for it.

It made sense at the beginning of the season. Lots of questions about Chapman. Not so much anymore.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice curve. Martin strikes out looking.

[reds44]

Chapman faced the heart of the order. If Marshall doesn't have it, he would have been clobbered by the 8th inning group.

You can't hide a guy pitching him in the eighth. Marshall just has to pitch a little better.

He's now ahead of Russell Martin, but he's a tough hitter.
He doesn't need to be hidden. He's proven to be a very good reliever in his career.

He's just not a closer.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Pretty pitch. And I prefer the way it is now. Chapman setting up, Marshall closing.

[redsmetz]

I understand. The next 2 Saturdays they are on Fox

I know I'm being a whiner, but next week I'll be in DC and we'll be busy all weekend. I'll have to check my schedule the following week. I may have to break down and get cable. Somebody want to PM what you pay in the city of Cincinnati?

[reds44]

Pretty pitch. And I prefer the way it is now. Chapman setting up, Marshall closing.
Why?

[Vottomatic]

What does Marshall do better than Chapman? They both throw with the same hand. Chapman has better stuff. He's probably the most dominant reliever in baseball right now.

And he's not closing.

You're preaching to the choir, buddy.

[Tom Servo]

I don't get the criticism of Marshall as closer, especially after we endured years of CoCo.

[757690]

Also remember, at the beginning of the season, the goal was for Chapman to pitch a month in relief, and then switch to starting, Much harder ro do that if he's closing.

[reds44]

I don't get the criticism of Marshall as closer, especially after we endured years of CoCo.
He's got a 4.40 ERA right now. If that keeps up, he's going to blow a lot more saves.

[Reds Fanatic]

Jones singles to center. 1st and 3rd.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Why?

Marshall has much more experience in the bigs. He's not going to walk the bases loaded. And he's proven to be just as tough. I like Aroldis to have multiple innings quite often.

[reds44]

Also remember, at the beginning of the season, the goal was for Chapman to pitch a month in relief, and then switch to starting, Much harder ro do that if he's closing.
That was never the goal. He won't start this year.

[Vottomatic]

I don't get the criticism of Marshall as closer, especially after we endured years of CoCo.

He has had two 1,2,3 innings in his last 10 outings.

After giving up the run this inning, his e.r.a. will more than likely be over 4.00. I'm not a big fan of closers with 4.00 e.r.a.'s.

Chapman should be closing. Or Ondrusek.

[Kc61]

Marshall threw a fastball to Jones. Mistake.

I would get Arredondo up. What a nightmare.

[Kc61]

Arredondo is up now.

[757690]

That was never the goal. He won't start this year.

Yes it was. Plenty of evidence, even from Dusty saying that was the goal.

[Vottomatic]

Marshall with his Molly Hatchet effort.

[reds44]

He has had two 1,2,3 innings in his last 10 outings.

After giving up the run this inning, his e.r.a. will more than likely be over 4.00. I'm not a big fan of closers with 4.00 e.r.a.'s.

Chapman should be closing. Or Ondrusek.
Yup. He's pretty much left handed Cordero, and I think that is being generous at this point.

[reds44]

Yes it was. Plenty of evidence, even from Dusty saying that was the goal.
He won't start a game this year unless something goes horribly wrong with the rotation.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ugh. Nix singles to left. 1st and 2nd.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Yup. He's pretty much left handed Cordero, and I think that is being generous at this point.

Wow. I just don't get this. We're talking small sample size this year, try looking bigger picture.

[Tom Servo]

god these stupid singles

[Reds Fanatic]

Once again the closer can't close