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Degenerate39
05-25-2012, 03:12 PM
Cozart 6, Stubbs 8, Votto 3, Phillips 4, Heisey 9, Ludwick 7, Frazier 5, Hanigan 2, Cueto 1. vs. LH Friedrich

_Sir_Charles_
05-25-2012, 03:29 PM
~From Sheldon

*With a LHP going for Colorado and his being 0-for-14 and 1-for-31 of late, it’s not stunning that Jay Bruce gets a break from the lineup tonight.

*From the Reds: The Reds’ game rained out at Great American Ball Park on May 1 vs the Cubs has been rescheduled for 1:10 p.m. on Saturday, August 18 as part of a day/night doubleheader…the originally scheduled game will begin at 7:10…fans with tickets dated May 1 can use that same ticket at the gate for admission to the 1:10 p.m. game with no exchange necessary…fans also can exchange their tickets dated May 1 for any other 2012 game, pending availability.

_Sir_Charles_
05-25-2012, 03:31 PM
Kc....Dusty heard your complaints. So here's his solution to getting a quality lefty on the bench for you. :O)

Degenerate39
05-25-2012, 03:39 PM
Triple post

Degenerate39
05-25-2012, 03:39 PM
Thanks to whoever fixed the title.

Degenerate39
05-25-2012, 03:40 PM
Thanks to whoever fixed the title.

VottoFan54
05-25-2012, 04:09 PM
Colorado Rockies:

2B Marco Scutaro
CF Tyler Colvin
LF Carlos Gonzalez
SS Troy Tulowitzki
1B Todd Helton
RF Michael Cuddyer
3B Jordan Pacheco
C Wilin Rosario
P Christain Friedrich

Tom Servo
05-25-2012, 04:44 PM
Colorado Rockies:

2B Marco Scutaro
CF Tyler Colvin
LF Carlos Gonzalez
SS Troy Tulowitzki
1B Todd Helton
RF Michael Cuddyer
3B Jordan Pacheco
C Wilin Rosario
P Christain Friedrich
That's a scary 3 thru 6.

KittyDuran
05-25-2012, 05:17 PM
On my way to the game!6113

KittyDuran
05-25-2012, 06:29 PM
Views from my seat.61146115

Chip R
05-25-2012, 06:32 PM
Views from my seat.61146115

Happy birthday! Maybe I'll see you tomorrow night.

Crumbley
05-25-2012, 06:52 PM
This game show is BRUTAL television.

Kc61
05-25-2012, 07:09 PM
Kc....Dusty heard your complaints. So here's his solution to getting a quality lefty on the bench for you. :O)

LOL, he gets me a guy who is 1 for 30? What kind of bench player is that?

Seriously, good call to sit Bruce against the lefty tonight. I'm guessing Jay has a good game tomorrow and comes out of his slump very soon.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:11 PM
Last minute lineup change for Colorado. Young in center and Colvin to right.

Young files out to center.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:13 PM
Scutaro flies out to right. 2 outs.

PuffyPig
05-25-2012, 07:14 PM
That's a scary 3 thru 6.

Maybe in Colorado some years back.

They aren't anything special on the road in 2012.

Kc61
05-25-2012, 07:16 PM
Beautiful pitch by Cueto.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:16 PM
Gonzalez strikes out looking. 0-0 mid 1st.

Kc61
05-25-2012, 07:18 PM
Rockies as a team with a 5.12 ERA, highest in the league. Wouldn't mind seeing some Reds runs tonight.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:19 PM
Cozart fouls out to short.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:21 PM
Stubbs strikes out swinging.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:22 PM
Votto lines a double to right center.

Kc61
05-25-2012, 07:23 PM
Votto lines a double to right center.

Lefties beware of Votto. He is due against them.

As Dusty would say, big time.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:23 PM
Phillips lines out to center. 0-0 after 1.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:26 PM
That is an ugly record the Reds have against Colorado. 8-25 since 2007.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:26 PM
Tulowitzki lines a double to left center.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:27 PM
Helton homers into the first row in right center. 2-0 Rockies.

Tom Servo
05-25-2012, 07:28 PM
That is an ugly record the Reds have against Colorado. 8-25 since 2007.


Tulowitzki lines a double to left center.
Precisely why their lineup intimidates me.

PuffyPig
05-25-2012, 07:29 PM
Helton homers into the first row in right center. 2-0 Rockies.

Win by the cheapie, die by the cheapie.....

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:30 PM
Colvin strikes out swinging. 2 Ks for Cueto

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:32 PM
Pacheco flies out to center.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:32 PM
Bloop hit to center by Rosario

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:34 PM
Friedrich strikes out swiging. 3 Ks for Cueto. 2-0 Rockies mid 2nd.

Tom Servo
05-25-2012, 07:36 PM
Hopefully Cueto can put up some scoreless innings after this and not get bombed like he did in Atlanta.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:40 PM
Heisey strikes out looking but that was a good 10 pitch AB.

Kc61
05-25-2012, 07:41 PM
Pitch looked low to me. Heisey with a nice at bat, very close call on the last pitch.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:42 PM
Ludwick flies out to right center.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:42 PM
Frazier flies out to right on the first pitch. 2-0 Rockies after 2.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:45 PM
Young grounds out to 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:47 PM
Scutaro singles to left.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:50 PM
Wow that just missed. A foul down the line.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:52 PM
Gonzalez grounds out to 2nd. Close play at 1st. Runner to 2nd.2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:52 PM
That is a big break as he was safe

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:55 PM
Tulowitzki walks. 1st and 2nd.

Kc61
05-25-2012, 07:55 PM
Rockies just kill the Reds. I don't get it but every series they are all over the bases and the Reds cannot stop the middle of their order.

Cmon Johnny.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:56 PM
Cueto really struggling. 4 pitch walk to Helton. Bases loaded.

Kc61
05-25-2012, 07:57 PM
Pitch count getting up there, this could be that rare Hoover/Simon evening.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 07:58 PM
Colvin grounds out. The ball goes off Cueto's glove right to Phillips who throws him out. 2-0 Rockies mid 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:02 PM
Hanigan grounds out to short.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:04 PM
Cueto strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:04 PM
Cozart lines a double to left.

kbrake
05-25-2012, 08:06 PM
Ball 1 looked identical to strike 1. Pretty sure both were strikes.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:07 PM
Stubbs grounds out to short. 2-0 Rockies after 3.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:10 PM
Pacheco grounds out to 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:11 PM
Frazier's defense is rough. Rosario to 2nd on a ball off Frazier's glove.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:12 PM
They are calling that a double.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:13 PM
Friedrich singles to left. 1st and 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:14 PM
Young bloop single to center. 3-0 Rockies. 1st and 2nd.

Tony Cloninger
05-25-2012, 08:15 PM
So they can't hit Kaiser Wilhelm and the Rockies....who have been struggling are having no problem hitting Cueto. Beating up on the average and bad teams is what is going to be needed to win the division.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:16 PM
Scutaro grounds into a 4-3 DP. 3-0 Rockies mid 4th.

Tom Servo
05-25-2012, 08:16 PM
So they can't hit Kaiser Wilhelm and the Rockies....who have been struggling are having no problem hitting Cueto. Beating up on the average and bad teams is what is going to be needed to win the division.
Still a lot of game to go.

Tony Cloninger
05-25-2012, 08:17 PM
Still a lot of game to go.

Until they start hitting even at league average? I hope not too many games to go.

nate
05-25-2012, 08:24 PM
Chat is open!

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:25 PM
Ludwick doubles off the wall in right. 3-1 Rockies. 2nd and 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:26 PM
Sorry I had to leave temporarily but here is a recap of the inning so far.

Votto singles to center.
Phillips singles to left. 1st and 2nd.
Heisey lines out to short.
Ludwick doubles to right.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:28 PM
Frazier doubles to left. 3-3!

reds44
05-25-2012, 08:28 PM
New ballgame.

mth123
05-25-2012, 08:29 PM
Love it when we face lefties.

kaldaniels
05-25-2012, 08:29 PM
Rolen, you've been Pipped.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:31 PM
Hanigan strikes out swinging.

Tony Cloninger
05-25-2012, 08:31 PM
So they hit the Kaiser! I guess I only had to wait half an inning Tom? :thumbup:

elfmanvt07
05-25-2012, 08:32 PM
Is there ANY doubt that the Rockies have the worst uniforms in all of baseball?

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:34 PM
Cueto strikes out swinging. 3-3 after 4.

Tom Servo
05-25-2012, 08:38 PM
Is there ANY doubt that the Rockies have the worst uniforms in all of baseball?
The orange Marlins uniforms are up there.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:39 PM
Gonzalez doubles off the wall in left

Tom Servo
05-25-2012, 08:39 PM
Gonzalez doubles off the wall in left
New ballgame, same as the old ballgame. :doh:

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:40 PM
Infield hit for Tulowitki. 1st and 3rd.

Tony Cloninger
05-25-2012, 08:44 PM
Perfectly rested Hoover and Simon and even LeClure......who can save your ball game but he can never see it until the game is out of hand.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:44 PM
Helton singles to center. 4-3 Rockies. 1st and 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:45 PM
Big 4-6-3 DP. 2 outs runner on 3rd.

PuffyPig
05-25-2012, 08:45 PM
Perfectly rested Hoover and Simon and even LeClure......who can save your ball game but he can never see it until the game is out of hand.

Cueto has allowed a number of bloop type hits.

redsfaninbsg
05-25-2012, 08:46 PM
Cardinals already down 2-0 to the Phillies.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:48 PM
Pacheco doubles to left. That is it for Cueto. 5-3 Rockies

redsfaninbsg
05-25-2012, 08:49 PM
I can't see the game I'm at my in-laws can somebody give a brief breakdown of what's going on with Cueto?

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:49 PM
Hoover in to pitch

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:50 PM
I can't see the game I'm at my in-laws can somebody give a brief breakdown of what's going on with Cueto?

Just a rare off night. He has trouble with location and has been hit hard through out the game. In fact if not for a missed call back in the 3rd this game could be a lot worse.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:52 PM
Intentional walk to Rosario

redsfaninbsg
05-25-2012, 08:53 PM
At least the Reds are still in it. Looking at the score, I'm guessing the offense is getting to this kid pitching for the Rockies?

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:53 PM
At least the Reds are still in it. Looking at the score, I'm guessing the offense is getting to this kid pitching for the Rockies?

Yes they stuggled the first time through the order but got 5 hits the 2nd time through the order. So this game is a long way from over.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:54 PM
Friedrich strikes out swinging. 5-3 Rockies mid 5th.

PuffyPig
05-25-2012, 08:55 PM
Just a rare off night. He has trouble with location and has been hit hard through out the game. In fact if not for a missed call back in the 3rd this game could be a lot worse.

There has been a number of bloop hits too. But he's had poor command throughout the night.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:57 PM
Cozart grounds out to short.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 08:59 PM
Stubbs chases a high pitch. 2 outs.

reds44
05-25-2012, 08:59 PM
Pitches at your eyes are tough to hit.

Kc61
05-25-2012, 09:00 PM
I wonder if there are stats on fouling off pitches with two strikes. Stubbs seems to swing and miss that third strike without staying alive with fouls.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:01 PM
Votto singles to left. His 3rd hit tonight.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:02 PM
Brandon crushed that but way foul.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:05 PM
Good AB. Phillips walks. Big AB here for Heisey

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:08 PM
Heisey chases a high inside pitch. 2-2 count

reds44
05-25-2012, 09:08 PM
Heisey also learning it's hard to hit a pitch at your eyes.

klw
05-25-2012, 09:08 PM
Heisey up 2-0 decides to let the pitcher off the hook by swinging.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:09 PM
Full count.

reds44
05-25-2012, 09:10 PM
Still. Hard to hit pitches at your eyes. But he got closer.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:10 PM
He has now had 5 balls this AB but he keeps swinging at them.

klw
05-25-2012, 09:10 PM
Does Hi-C really not have a HR yet this year?

reds44
05-25-2012, 09:11 PM
Ball 6

Crumbley
05-25-2012, 09:11 PM
Wow

reds44
05-25-2012, 09:11 PM
That was a baaaaaad AB in a big spot.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:11 PM
7 balls. He fouls out to the catcher. 5-3 Rockies after 5.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:14 PM
Young flies out to left.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:15 PM
Scutaro lines out to left. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:17 PM
Gonzalez pops out to short. Good inning for Hoover. 5-3 Rockies mid 6th.

elfmanvt07
05-25-2012, 09:19 PM
Hoover looks solid.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:20 PM
Roenicke in to pitch

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:23 PM
Good AB. Ludwick lines a single to left.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:25 PM
Frazier strikes out swinging.

DGullett35
05-25-2012, 09:25 PM
Hoover looked good esp. since we haven't seen him in a few games

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:28 PM
Hanigan grounds into a 6-3 DP. 5-3 Rockies after 6.

PuffyPig
05-25-2012, 09:29 PM
Good AB. Ludwick lines a single to left.

Probably as good as any AB he's had all season.

DGullett35
05-25-2012, 09:30 PM
The bullpen should hold. a 2 run deficit isn't like climbing everest. we'll be ok

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:30 PM
Double switch. Simon in to pitch. Cairo in to play 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:31 PM
Tulowitzki flies out to right.

DGullett35
05-25-2012, 09:32 PM
I almost forgot we had Simon on the roster

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:33 PM
Helton flies out to left. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:34 PM
Colvin lines a double to right center.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:36 PM
Good pitch. Pacheco strikes out swinging. 5-3 Rockies mid 7th.

Cairo, Cozart and Stubbs due up

DGullett35
05-25-2012, 09:37 PM
Kinda funny the Braves announcers were complaining about the cheap homers GABP gives up and it bites the Reds tonight so far. Heltons ball looked like a jam shot fly ball

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:39 PM
Adam Ottavino in to pitch

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:40 PM
Cairo grounds out to 3rd. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:42 PM
Cozart strikes out swinging.

Kc61
05-25-2012, 09:43 PM
7 balls. He fouls out to the catcher. 5-3 Rockies after 5.

Haven't been on the game thread, but if they lose this at bat by Heisey in the fifth will be a turning point IMO. Should have walked about 4 times.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:45 PM
Stubbs walks.

DGullett35
05-25-2012, 09:46 PM
29,597 for the attendance. bringin in pretty good numbers

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:46 PM
pitching change

Kc61
05-25-2012, 09:46 PM
Lefty coming in to face Votto. Joey with a good night tonight. Let's hope he's not done exacting some revenge on lefty pitching, which had been tough on Joey before this evening.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:47 PM
Josh Outman in to pitch

PuffyPig
05-25-2012, 09:47 PM
Haven't been on the game thread, but if they lose this at bat by Heisey in the fifth will be a turning point IMO. Should have walked about 4 times.

Absolutely.

Would have loaded the bases, likely knocked out the starter.

No idea what would have happened, but you lose that opportunity.

klw
05-25-2012, 09:48 PM
The pitcher is Josh Outman- what a great name for a pitcher. Far better than Homer

Kc61
05-25-2012, 09:49 PM
Joey fouls off the 0-2 pitch. Joey is superb at fouling off that two strike pitch.

He should give Stubbs lessons at that skill. It makes a huge difference.

757690
05-25-2012, 09:50 PM
The pitcher is Josh Outman- what a great name for a pitcher. Far better than Homer

If he was named Homer Outman, he'd be the ultimate walking contradiction.

Kc61
05-25-2012, 09:50 PM
Votto says -- you're bringing in a what? A lefty? To face me? You serious?

Nice hit, too bad it didn't knock in a run, second and third now.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:51 PM
You knew lefties were going to pay against Votto eventually and it is happening tonight. Votto doubles. 4 hits tonight. 2nd and 3rd.

Tom Servo
05-25-2012, 09:51 PM
Josh Outman more like Josh Doubleman.

DGullett35
05-25-2012, 09:51 PM
Lets go BP

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:51 PM
Double switch

PuffyPig
05-25-2012, 09:51 PM
Never say Joey is in a slump, at best he's been simply unlucky......

Tom Servo
05-25-2012, 09:52 PM
Good old Matt Belisle.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:52 PM
DJ LaMahieu in to play 3rd

Kc61
05-25-2012, 09:53 PM
Never say Joey is in a slump, at best he's been simply unlucky......

The way I look at it, every time Votto has a "bad" night, it's just a set up for revenge against some poor pitcher.

Tom Servo
05-25-2012, 09:53 PM
DJ LaMahieu in to play 3rd
Sounds like the name of a guy they put in MLB: The Show just to fill up space.

Kc61
05-25-2012, 09:54 PM
I love Phillips, but he is always 0-2, it seems.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:55 PM
Phillips strikes out swinging. 5-3 Rockies after 7.

Tom Servo
05-25-2012, 09:55 PM
:(

VR
05-25-2012, 09:56 PM
Did Votto hit a ground rule double?

Kc61
05-25-2012, 09:56 PM
Did Votto hit a ground rule double?

No, it was a regular double.

PuffyPig
05-25-2012, 09:58 PM
No, it was a regular double.

It was cut off, Stubbs had zero chance to score.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 09:59 PM
Rosario strikes out swinging. 2 Ks for Simon

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:01 PM
Nice play by Cairo. 2 outs

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:02 PM
Young grounds out to 2nd. 5-3 Rockies mid 8th.

Heisey, Ludwick, pinch hitter due up

VR
05-25-2012, 10:03 PM
It was cut off, Stubbs had zero chance to score.

Wouldn't ever bet a nickle that Stubbs couldn't score from 1st on a two our double unless it was GRD.

WVRedsFan
05-25-2012, 10:04 PM
Sitting here in Charlotte. Thanks for the pbp. What happened to Cueto?

VR
05-25-2012, 10:04 PM
When do we start giving attaboys for picking up Simon?

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:06 PM
Heisey lines out to center.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:06 PM
Sitting here in Charlotte. Thanks for the pbp. What happened to Cueto?

Just a rare off night. He struggled all night.

PuffyPig
05-25-2012, 10:06 PM
Heisey lines out to center.

I thought that was a sure hit off his bat.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:07 PM
Ludwick flies out to the edge of the track in right.

WVRedsFan
05-25-2012, 10:08 PM
That's two out of three starts as off nights. When do we get concerned?

Degenerate39
05-25-2012, 10:08 PM
Heisey is terrible

Tom Servo
05-25-2012, 10:09 PM
That's two out of three starts as off nights. When do we get concerned?
Unless he complains of arm soreness, I don't. Even Roy Halladay will get pounded every few starts now and then.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:09 PM
Costanzo hitting for Simon. Really good outing for Simon who had not pitched in over a week.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:10 PM
Costanzo strikes out looking. 5-3 Rockies after 8.

PuffyPig
05-25-2012, 10:11 PM
That's two out of three starts as off nights. When do we get concerned?

Not even close....

WVRedsFan
05-25-2012, 10:12 PM
Constanto needs to go back down. K after K.

Tony Cloninger
05-25-2012, 10:12 PM
When do we start giving attaboys for picking up Simon?

I will give a big one there. Now can they find someone to hit at least off the bench? That would be cool.

PuffyPig
05-25-2012, 10:13 PM
Heisey is terrible

He just pounded the ball in that AB?

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:13 PM
Arredondo in to pitch

smith288
05-25-2012, 10:13 PM
Castanzo is like putting a relief pitcher up there to pinch hit. He's beyond terrible.

Tony Cloninger
05-25-2012, 10:13 PM
Heisey is terrible

If the dude cannot hit for power....he obviously cannot take a walk.....he is not even a good option as a 4th OF, let alone starter in LF.

DGullett35
05-25-2012, 10:15 PM
Simon has been a very pleasant surprise. Alot of ppl on the Sundeck thread were bashing that move of sending Frazier down. I think Simon has held his own

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:15 PM
Wow. What a play by Cozart!

DGullett35
05-25-2012, 10:15 PM
Simon has been a very pleasant surprise. Alot of ppl on the Sundeck thread were bashing that move of sending Frazier down. I think Simon has held his own

Tom Servo
05-25-2012, 10:15 PM
Everyday Arredondo

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:17 PM
Gonzalez walks

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:18 PM
Balk moves the runner to 2nd

DGullett35
05-25-2012, 10:18 PM
If the dude cannot hit for power....he obviously cannot take a walk.....he is not even a good option as a 4th OF, let alone starter in LF.
Seriously? The guy has to be one of the best 4th OF in the game. He plays all 3 positions good defensively and he can hit for power. Thats all I ask of my 4th OF. Also hes been hitting the ball good coming into tonight. Thats why hes the 4th OF and not a starter because he isn't consistent. But in no way shape or form is he not a good option as a 4th OF. Would you rather have Andruw Jones? Shelley Duncan? Heisey isn't so bad

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:18 PM
Gonzalez takes 3rd as Arredondo does not even look at the runner.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:21 PM
Tulowitzki singles to center. 6-3 Rockies.

VR
05-25-2012, 10:22 PM
That's a huge run.

VR
05-25-2012, 10:23 PM
Phils have tied the Cards

Tony Cloninger
05-25-2012, 10:24 PM
Seriously? The guy has to be one of the best 4th OF in the game. He plays all 3 positions good defensively and he can hit for power. Thats all I ask of my 4th OF. Also hes been hitting the ball good coming into tonight. Thats why hes the 4th OF and not a starter because he isn't consistent. But in no way shape or form is he not a good option as a 4th OF. Would you rather have Andruw Jones? Shelley Duncan? Heisey isn't so bad

Have you seen him this year? I am talking about the here and now. IF he is not hitting for power, which he is not now....and the guy cannot walk anymore than Gomes could....then he is not a good 4th OF. His OF D? I see and read a lot here....that it seems to be a bit overrated.

If the Reds had a Kangeroo court.....Jose should be fined for just letting the runner take 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:24 PM
Helton strikes out swinging.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:27 PM
Colvin strikes out swinging. 6-3 Rockies mid 9th

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:28 PM
Hanigan, Cairo and Cozart due up.

Betancourt in to pitch

PuffyPig
05-25-2012, 10:28 PM
If the dude cannot hit for power....he obviously cannot take a walk.....he is not even a good option as a 4th OF, let alone starter in LF.


He's shown exceptional power before and some ability to take a walk.

I wouldn't DFA him quite yet.

PuffyPig
05-25-2012, 10:29 PM
Hanigan, Cairo and Cozart due up.

Betancourt in to pitch

We need 2 of 4 to get on to give Votto a chance.....

Tony Cloninger
05-25-2012, 10:32 PM
He's shown exceptional power before and some ability to take a walk.

I wouldn't DFA him quite yet.

Way to exaggerate what I was saying. I did not say I was ready to DFA.

Prior to this year he was hitting for power and I have not seen much in him that he likes to take a walk or is selective really. There are no other options obviously beacuse Walt chose not to do much at AAA in the way of getting some depth instead of having Constanza.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:33 PM
You would think Bruce might hit for Cairo here

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:33 PM
Hanigan grounds out to short.

Tom Servo
05-25-2012, 10:35 PM
You would think Bruce might hit for Cairo here
Eh, I say give Bruce the full day off.

VR
05-25-2012, 10:35 PM
Gameday won't load the Reds game. Really gameday?

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:35 PM
Cairo strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-25-2012, 10:39 PM
Cozart flies out. Reds lose 6-3.

Tom Servo
05-25-2012, 10:39 PM
We're bad again.


Let's start a new winning streak tomorrow. :)

Kc61
05-25-2012, 10:39 PM
go Phils. Tonight.

Tony Cloninger
05-25-2012, 10:43 PM
We're bad again.


Let's start a new winning streak tomorrow. :)

The Rockies are pretty bad...... this team has been playing down/up to the level of competition since 2011.

PuffyPig
05-25-2012, 10:47 PM
Way to exaggerate what I was saying. I did not say I was ready to DFA.

Prior to this year he was hitting for power and I have not seen much in him that he likes to take a walk or is selective really. There are no other options obviously beacuse Walt chose not to do much at AAA in the way of getting some depth instead of having Constanza.

You said he was terrible.

Perhaps you were exaggerating?

Baseball in never a sprint. His K-rate, W-rate, FB rate aren't hugely changed from his career average.

He'll likely be fine.

VR
05-25-2012, 10:53 PM
go Phils. Tonight.

Molina just got thrown out at home w/ the tying run. mmmmmmmmm.

VR
05-25-2012, 11:01 PM
Molina just got thrown out at home w/ the tying run. mmmmmmmmm. (correction, GO AHEAD run :))

Tony Cloninger
05-25-2012, 11:01 PM
You said he was terrible.

Perhaps you were exaggerating?

Baseball in never a sprint. His K-rate, W-rate, FB rate aren't hugely changed from his career average.

He'll likely be fine.


Degenerate 39 said he was terrible..... I used his quote to respond with my opinion.

I would never say he is flat out terrible in a vacuum of 2 months of early season baseball.

The Rockies though are bad..... pitching even in Colorado..is bad no matter what but they are still 16th in ERA and no one hitting really other than Cargo....but yet/.... 3rd straight loss to them and 10 out of 13, Sorry......that team is not that much better at all than the Reds.

traderumor
05-26-2012, 12:46 PM
The Rockies are pretty bad...... this team has been playing down/up to the level of competition since 2011.You win 1 of 3, you lose 1 of 3, its the other 1/3...

Tony Cloninger
05-26-2012, 01:16 PM
You win 1 of 3, you lose 1 of 3, its the other 1/3...

I was patient last year. Ironically the run differential that people were harping on last year....is not noticeable this year. Not that it is an absolute..as it was not working last year, in the end for them.

traderumor
05-26-2012, 01:31 PM
Another tidbit, Reds now 1-5 on Friday nights, including a 3 Friday night losing streak.

traderumor
05-26-2012, 01:32 PM
I was patient last year. Ironically the run differential that people were harping on last year....is not noticeable this year. Not that it is an absolute..as it was not working last year, in the end for them.Patient? You're griping that they lost to the Rockies because they're bad to end a 6 game losing streak. If they get swept, we'll talk. Otherwise, they have no worse than a 5-2 homestand. If one complains about that, they'll complain about anything.

Tony Cloninger
05-26-2012, 05:21 PM
Patient? You're griping that they lost to the Rockies because they're bad to end a 6 game losing streak. If they get swept, we'll talk. Otherwise, they have no worse than a 5-2 homestand. If one complains about that, they'll complain about anything.

OK fine. I am being unrealistic. Taking 2 out of 3 from the Rockies should be expected however.