5/27/12 Rockies at Reds

[elfmanvt07]

5/27 Reds Lineup

Cozart SS
Stubbs CF
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Ludwick LF
Frazier 3B
Hanigan C
Latos P

[RedsfaninMT]

Seems like this is a big game. Consider, the Reds lose and they go 5-2 on the homestand. If you told me that, and I didn't know better, I would assume they split with the Braves and swept the Rockies - about what I would expect them to do.

6-1 would be a very impressive homestand.

[PuffyPig]

Dopn't look know but if the Reds had Heisey in for Stubbs, the entire lineup would have OPS over .700.

Regression occurs over a larger sample size.

Ludwick finally has his OPS at .705 and, for example, a HR in his first AB would increase it to .750.

[KittyDuran]

Arroyo and his mini-me (Leake) playing catch in front an appreciative crowd...6118

[Gallen5862]

This game is the free game of the day on MLBtv.com.

[elfmanvt07]

Colorado lineup

Young CF
Scutaro 2B
Gonzalez LF
Tulowitzki SS
Giambi 1B
Cuddyer RF
Pacheco 3B
Rosario C
Moyer P

[reds44]

Why is Heisey not playing?

[mth123]

Another lefty. Predicting big days for Stubbs, Frazier, Cozart, Hanigan and Ludwick. Phillips needs to come around against LHP. I suspect the Reds will score a lot of runs today. Hope I didn't jinx them.

[RedsfaninMT]

Another lefty. Predicting big days for Stubbs, Frazier, Cozart, Hanigan and Ludwick. Phillips needs to come around against LHP. I suspect the Reds will score a lot of runs today. Hope I didn't jinx them.

To me it seems they struggle against soft-tossers. And Moyer is the King of that.

[Tom Servo]

Votto! :jump:

[mth123]

To me it seems they struggle against soft-tossers. And Moyer is the King of that.

Soft tossing RH, I agree. They can't hit the RH breaking ball. Votto goes yard.

[elfmanvt07]

BANG.

[Tom Servo]

1-0 Reds after 1 full.

[elfmanvt07]

Votto's face when he saw that pitch.

http://i.imgur.com/ZgBmN.gif

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Brandon Phillips - 128
18. Joey Votto - 127
19. Reggie Sanders - 125
20. Ernie Lombardi - 120
21. Sean Casey - 118
22. Frank McCormick - 110
22. Jay Bruce - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

[elfmanvt07]

Home run Tulo. Good for my fantasy team, bad for the Redlegs. 1-1

[cincyinco]

MLB.com blacked out the game for me. Bummer.

[Tom Servo]

Wow, great range by Cozart. 1-1 to the bottom of the 2nd.

[Tom Servo]

Bruce! :jump:

2-1 Reds.

[cincyinco]

BRUCE!

[elfmanvt07]

I bet that feels good for him. Maybe it takes an AARP member to get him out of his slump.

[Tom Servo]

Ludwick walks.

[Big Klu]

Congratulations to Jay Bruce, who has passed Frank McCormick for 22nd place on the Reds' all-time home run list!


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Brandon Phillips - 128
18. Joey Votto - 127
19. Reggie Sanders - 125
20. Ernie Lombardi - 120
21. Sean Casey - 118
22. Jay Bruce - 111
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

[Tom Servo]

Frazier pops up to very shallow CF. 1 out.

[Tom Servo]

Hanigan is DatDudeDP, 2-1 Reds after 2.

[Tom Servo]

Rosario K's. 1 out.

[Tom Servo]

Moyer K's. 2 out.

[elfmanvt07]

Wide strike zone so far.

[Tom Servo]

Young grounds out to first. 2-1 Reds going to bottom of 3.

[PuffyPig]

Don't look know but Latos is being pitch efficient.

Only the leadoff hitter in the first gave him any problems with number of pitches.

He's at 32 pitches after 3 innings, 24 strikes.

[Tom Servo]

Latos HBP.

[BCubb2003]

Wide strike zone so far.

Might be weather-related.

[elfmanvt07]

Latos is down with OBP, yeah you know me. Until that PA, he was 0/13 with 13 K's.

[Tom Servo]

Cozart fouls out to 1st. 1 out.

[Tom Servo]

Stubbs flies out to center. 2 out.

[Tom Servo]

Votto singles up the middle, Latos goes 1st to 3rd. 2 on, 2 out.

[Tom Servo]

BP! :jump:

5-1 Reds!

[OldRightHander]

This is fun.

[BCubb2003]

DatDudeHR

[RedsfaninMT]

Might be weather-related.

Is it raining/supposed to rain? Relegated to watching on Gamcast with a very slow connection today. :thumbdown:

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Brandon Phillips - 129
18. Joey Votto - 127
19. Reggie Sanders - 125
20. Ernie Lombardi - 120
21. Sean Casey - 118
22. Jay Bruce - 111
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

[mth123]

Another lefty. Predicting big days for Stubbs, Frazier, Cozart, Hanigan and Ludwick. Phillips needs to come around against LHP. I suspect the Reds will score a lot of runs today. Hope I didn't jinx them.

So the 3 guys I didn't name have all homered.:thumbup:;)

[PuffyPig]

FWIW, and it's not worth much today, but Moyer this year has his best K/9 ratio in the last 25 years.

[BCubb2003]

Is it raining/supposed to rain? Relegated to watching on Gamcast with a very slow connection today. :thumbdown:

No, just very hot from what I hear.

[Tom Servo]

Bruce K's. 5-1 Reds after 3.

[mth123]

No, just very hot from what I hear.

Well over 90. Probably over 100 on the field.

[Degenerate39]

Your staying busy today aren't you Big Klu

[Big Klu]

Your staying busy today aren't you Big Klu

All three of the Big Three check in today. That doesn't happen very often.

[PuffyPig]

So the 3 guys I didn't name have all homered.:thumbup:;)

Well, you didn't mention Cliff Claven and he hasn't homered either.

[Tom Servo]

Scutaro pops up. 1 out.

[Tom Servo]

CarGo homers. 5-2.

[OldRightHander]

That was hit.

[Tom Servo]

Long at-bat at Tulo flies out to right. 2 out.

[Tom Servo]

Giambi grounds out, 5-2 Reds going to bottom of 4.

[Tom Servo]

Ludwick K's. 1 out.

[Tom Servo]

Frazier! :jump:

6-2 Reds.

[elfmanvt07]

Wham.

[Degenerate39]

Smokin Todd Frazier is a stud

[Tom Servo]

Hanigan hits one deep in the whole, Tulo makes a nice 360 but the throw doesn't connect. Hanigan safe at first, likely ruled an infield hit.

[OldRightHander]

Lost the bat hitting a dinger. Don't see that every day.

[Tom Servo]

Latos sac bunts Hanigan to 2nd. 2 out.

[Tom Servo]

Cozart doubles. 7-2 Reds.

[Tom Servo]

Stubbs hits one on the nose, but not quite deep enough to left. 7-2 Reds after 4.

[Brutus]

It is worth noting that Todd Frazier's OPS currently sits at .899

[Tom Servo]

Cuddyer homers. 7-3.

[Tom Servo]

Pacheco taps one back to Latos, 1 out.

[Tom Servo]

Rosario flies out to left, 2 out.

[Tom Servo]

Moyer K's. 7-3 Reds after 5.

[Tom Servo]

Votto lines out to center. 1 out.

[Tom Servo]

BP flies out to left. 2 out.

[Tom Servo]

Bruce flies out to center. 7-3 Reds after 5.

[Tom Servo]

Young grounds out to 1st. 1 out.

[mth123]

It is worth noting that Todd Frazier's OPS currently sits at .899

.798 VS RHP with a .298 OBP. Not fantastic, but about what I'd have expected from Francisco. Frazier is a lefty killer. The Jonny Gomes of 3B including the shaky glove.

[Tom Servo]

Scutaro pops up over the mound, Frazier grabs it. 2 out.

[Degenerate39]

Cards up 4-0 on the Phillies in the 2nd inning

[VR]

Good Lord, I just saw Frazier's homer. I wonder if that's the first time that's ever happened?

[redsmetz]

My son & I are watching the game on the train platform here in DC waiting for the rest of our family

[Tom Servo]

CarGo with another solo HR that just gets out. 7-4 game.

[OldRightHander]

Balls are flying out of the yard today.

[VR]

Hope the umps prepped enough baseballs for the game.

[cincyinco]

Balls are flying out of the yard today.

Not just today..

[Brutus]

.798 VS RHP with a .298 OBP. Not fantastic, but about what I'd have expected from Francisco. Frazier is a lefty killer. The Jonny Gomes of 3B including the shaky glove.

Comparing Frazier to Francisco or Gomes with the glove is a stretch. He's no Rolen down there with the leather, but he's a little more reliable than those guys.

Nonetheless, even against RHP, .800 OPS for a 3B is above-average.

[Tom Servo]

Tulo flies out to center. 7-4 to the bottom of the 6th. Would like to see an insurance run or two just for good measure. Latos at 84 pitches, btw.

[reds44]

Latos is throwing a shutout in Petco right now.

[mth123]

Not a "quality start" but Latos hasn't given up a lot of runners . We knew the Homers would rise a lot with the move from Petco to GABP. Got through 6 and I'd run him back out there unless he says he tired.

[elfmanvt07]

Latos is throwing a shutout in Petco right now.

That one down the line was gone in any ballpark.

[OldRightHander]

Latos is throwing a shutout in Petco right now.

That one to center might have gone.

[Tom Servo]

Roenicke in for the Rox.

[Tom Servo]

Leadoff walk to Ludwick.

[Tom Servo]

Frazier is DatDudeDP. 2 out.

[mth123]

Need more runs, but the lefty is gone.

[OldRightHander]

So, Thom doesn't know the driving route to Houston. He'd never cut it in my line of work.

[Tom Servo]

Hanigan flies out to center. 7-4 after 6 full.

[Tom Servo]

Giambi grounds out to 1st. 1 out.

[Tom Servo]

Cozart makes another one look easy as Cuddyer grounds to short. 2 out.

[Tom Servo]

Pacheco grounds out to 2nd. 7-4 Reds going to the bottom of 7.

[Tom Servo]

Latos grounds out to 2nd. 1 out.

[mth123]

Good outing by Latos despite what the box score shows. Balls were flying and he didn't give up much more than those cheap HRs. :thumbup:

Does he pitch the 8th? I think I'd run him out there and leave him in until a baserunner gets on.

[mth123]

Latos grounds out to 2nd. 1 out.

Guess he's going back out there.

[Tom Servo]

I think I'd run him out there and leave him in until a baserunner gets on.
At 90 pitches, I agree.

[Tom Servo]

Cozart K's, 2 out.

[Kc61]

I always though Roenicke would be a good reliever. He's knocked around, but he has the ability to miss some bats and to throw ground balls. He's looking pretty good this series for the Rockies.

Similar in a way to Volquez who also strikes guys out and throws ground balls.

[Tom Servo]

Stubbs K's. 0-4 game for him. 7-4 to the 8th.

[mth123]

Wow. No more lefty and the supporting cast goes silent. Stars are up next inning to get the insurance runs.

[WebScorpion]

If he'd just choke up with 2 strikes on him, he would catch up to those. :( Don't we have a hitting coach?

[KittyDuran]

Latos back out and he did a "Sparky"... He skipped over the foul line going to the mound.

[Kc61]

If he'd just choke up with 2 strikes on him, he would catch up to those. :( Don't we have a hitting coach?

If you're talking about Stubbs I agree. He also almost never fouls off the two strike pitch.

He could be such a better hitter if he just could foul off more close pitches with two strikes rather than swing right through them.

[Tom Servo]

Rosario grounds out to first. 1 out.

[Tom Servo]

Dexter Fowler homers. 7-5 game.

[Tom Servo]

Latos done, Arredondo coming in. Need 5 more outs to protect the 2 run lead.

[BCubb2003]

Latos scattered five hits.

[mth123]

If you're talking about Stubbs I agree. He also almost never fouls off the two strike pitch.

He could be such a better hitter if he just could foul off more close pitches with two strikes rather than swing right through them.

Maybe its just an optical illusion, but it looks like those balls on the outside are out of reach of the end of his bat. That ball breaking away or a running fastball that runs toward the outside seem to give him no chance. Probably too simple to just take a step closer to the plate, but it looks like it.

[WebScorpion]

Latos scattered five hits.and each one left the yard. :eek: Odd, eh?

[reds44]

Latos pitched better than his line would indicate.

[Kc61]

IMO Dusty should have varied from the usual and brought in Chapman right here.

[BCubb2003]

and each one left the yard. :eek: Odd, eh?

Yeah, they were really scattered.

[Tom Servo]

Arredondo comes in and walks Young. Not good...

[mth123]

Latos pitched better than his line would indicate.

Yep. I thought he pitched real well. He's a fly ball guy who isn't in Petco anymore. Today was a bad day for fly balls. He may have a few more like this one.

[WebScorpion]

Maybe its just an optical illusion, but it looks like those balls on the outside are out of reach of the end of his bat. That ball breaking away or a running fastball that runs toward the outside seem to give him no chance. Probably too simple to just take a step closer to the plate, but it looks like it.On that particular one, he was just a split second behind on a 93-94mph fastball...at regular speed it looked like his bat passed right through it. But yeah, I've seen him reach for those balls running away from him too. I love to watch him play center field though. :dunno:

[mth123]

IMO Dusty should have varied from the usual and brought in Chapman right here.

Agreed.

[Tom Servo]

Once again Arredondo lets the runner go without a look as Young swipes 2nd.

[Kc61]

Agreed.

The reason I say that, and I appreciate your agreement, is that Aroldis hasn't pitched in a few days. Two extra outs is nothing for him. He's pitched two innings easily.

Arredondo has been wild lately.

I hope Jose is able to get out of this, man on second now. Cargo up next.

Dusty, at least bring in Aroldis for Cargo.

Marshall is warming with Chapman.

[reds44]

I don't get Arredondo over Marshall.

[Tom Servo]

....oh god.

[Kc61]

Big mess up by Arredondo. Just terrible. Very costly mess up.

[mth123]

What a stupid play.

[Tom Servo]

tapper back to Arredondo, he had Young in a rundown and screws it up. 1st and 3rd, one out. Dusty's out.

[Tom Servo]

Cuban Missile is deployed.

[mth123]

The reason I say that, and I appreciate your agreement, is that Aroldis hasn't pitched in a few days. Two extra outs is nothing for him. He's pitched two innings easily.

Arredondo has been wild lately.

I hope Jose is able to get out of this, man on second now. Cargo up next.

Dusty, at least bring in Aroldis for Cargo.

Marshall is warming with Chapman.

Looks like we get him anyway. Just with a tougher task now.

[reds44]

Show me TLR.

[Tom Servo]

Show me TLR.
ok

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/tony-la-russa-eye.jpg

[Vottomatic]

Show me TLR.

Shhh. Quiet. You'll get in trouble. :laugh:

[cincyinco]

29 HR so far in this 7 game homestand.. A new record.

[Tom Servo]

Big K of CarGo. 2 out.

[OldRightHander]

Where was that pitch?

[Kc61]

Even with Aroldis the great pitching, I wouldn't give Troy T too much to hit.

[elfmanvt07]

http://i.imgur.com/UoM6G.jpg

[OldRightHander]

Even with Aroldis the great pitching, I wouldn't give Troy T too much to hit.

Hard at the letters or higher.

[Kc61]

Keep it out of the zone, Aroldis.

[OldRightHander]

He had a cut at that one.

[OldRightHander]

If he throws a slider, Tulo might screw himself into the ground.

[WrongVerb]

Sure do wish Aroldis had a change-up right here. Tulo wouldn't be expecting that at all.

[elfmanvt07]

Is it just me, or would a circle change do Chapman wonders?

[Tom Servo]

If he throws a slider, Tulo might screw himself into the ground.
Thom just said that exactly. :laugh:

[elfmanvt07]

Sure do wish Aroldis had a change-up right here. Tulo wouldn't be expecting that at all.

Jinx!

[OldRightHander]

If he throws a slider, Tulo might screw himself into the ground.
Thom almost quoted me word for word. What's up with that?

[Tom Servo]

Tulo flies out to center. 7-5 to the bottom of 8.

[WrongVerb]

Jinx!

Dammit! :)

[JaxRed]

Give him the heater, Rickey

[reds44]

Throw the slider!

[Degenerate39]

The temperture rose to 98 degrees in Cincy

[mth123]

Chapman is not a closer. He's a snuffer. What a battle with Tulo. Great baseball.

[Brutus]

Don't agree with sitting on the fastball continually there, but it worked.

[OldRightHander]

Thom just said that exactly. :laugh:

Reading the game thread in the booth? That was weird.

[reds44]

Hanigan wanted him to throw the slider, but the fastball worked.

[elfmanvt07]

As much as I love to watch that heater, I don't want him to lose that slider. The first time I ever saw Chapman pitch, the first batter struck out on three straight. Heater, heater, and then promptly broke his shins in half trying to hit a slider. I want that back.

[Kc61]

Let's give Dusty some credit.

First, let's give Dusty a demerit for using Jose in that spot.

But at least he didn't save Chapman for the ninth as the "closer." That time the flexible approach helped the Reds.

By the way, Tulowitzki is one impressive ballplayer. Putting Votto aside, if there is a better player in the NL, I don't know who he is.

[Vottomatic]

The way things are going, we need some more runs. :laugh:

[Vottomatic]

I hope Chapman comes back out for the 9th.

[reds44]

I love people saying he brought in Chapman for the 8th and not the 9th.

I'll be stunned if Chapman doesn't pitch the 9th. He's trying to get 5 outs from him.

[OldRightHander]

Thought he got that one for a second.

[Redsfan320]

I almost never say this, but huge props to Dusty for using Chap in the high leverage spot instead of the save.

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[Vottomatic]

How come "live update" isn't working on this game thread?

[PuffyPig]

I love people saying he brought in Chapman for the 8th and not the 9th.

I'll be stunned if Chapman doesn't pitch the 9th. He's trying to get 5 outs from him.

I don't think so, but never try and figure out Dusty.

[Tom Servo]

Votto flew out to left for the 1st out.

[elfmanvt07]

How come "live update" isn't working on this game thread?

As we say in electronics retail, it could be "user error."

[Degenerate39]

I almost never say this, but huge props to Dusty for using Chap in the high leverage spot instead of the save.

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I bet he'll be back out there in the 9th

[OldRightHander]

How come "live update" isn't working on this game thread?

Seems to be working for me. I'm on an iPad.

[elfmanvt07]

As we say in electronics retail, it could be "user error."

Kidding, of course.

[WrongVerb]

As we say in electronics retail, it could be "user error."

Error exists in the connection between the chair and keyboard.

[Tom Servo]

BP singles. 1 on, 1 out.

[Vottomatic]

Every hitter is swinging for the fly ball, knowing it has a good chance of flying out of there. Joey almost had it.

[Vottomatic]

Live update is working now for me.

[Tom Servo]

Balk moves BP to 2nd.

[reds44]

I don't think so, but never try and figure out Dusty.
He'll be out there unless we get 2+ runs.

[OldRightHander]

Mental lapse for the pitcher there.

[Kc61]

I love people saying he brought in Chapman for the 8th and not the 9th.

I'll be stunned if Chapman doesn't pitch the 9th. He's trying to get 5 outs from him.

I didn't mean he would pitch ONLY the eighth.

Point is that Dusty didn't leave Aroldis on the bench waiting for the ninth. Brought him in for the five out save.

Should have brought Aroldis in even earlier, he's very well rested and more than able to pitch five outs.

[Vottomatic]

A combined 13 hits in the game, and 9 HR's. :laugh:

[OldRightHander]

I wouldn't be surprised if Bruce did something big here.

[alloverjr]

I almost never say this, but huge props to Dusty for using Chap in the high leverage spot instead of the save.

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I agree completely. I love the way Dusty's been handling the pen, the lineup, and frankly the games over the last week to 10 days. Not going to agree with every move but I think all his moves have had merit. Huge kudos from me.

[Vottomatic]

I wouldn't be surprised if Bruce did something big here.

Like hit a home run? That would be rare today. :p

[Tom Servo]

Should have brought Aroldis in even earlier, he's very well rested and more than able to pitch five outs.
After Latos gave up that 5th homer with 1 out in the 8th, I wasn't thinking it was Chapman time. Wasn't thinking Arredondo though either.

[Tom Servo]

Bruce takes a very close pitch for ball 4. 2 on, 1 out.

[OldRightHander]

Not what I was thinking, but I'll take it.

[Kc61]

After Latos gave up that 5th homer with 1 out in the 8th, I wasn't thinking it was Chapman time. Wasn't thinking Arredondo though either.

Not the usual day. Aroldis very well rested. Pitches by mere mortals are flying over the fence. Would have been wise to use Aroldis earlier, but at least he got out of it with the two run lead.

[Tony Cloninger]

Every hitter is swinging for the fly ball, knowing it has a good chance of flying out of there. Joey almost had it.

I hope this does not lead to bad habits when they go out on the road....the dreaded GAB swing that some of these guys get into doing once they leave here and forget....they are not in homer heaven anymore.

[reds44]

After Latos gave up that 5th homer with 1 out in the 8th, I wasn't thinking it was Chapman time. Wasn't thinking Arredondo though either.
Yeah I don't give him credit for putting the wrong pitcher in and then using Chapman for 5 outs to try to cover up his mistake.

[Vottomatic]

First a balk. Then a walk. Now I figured the manager would come out to talk.

[Brutus]

I didn't mean he would pitch ONLY the eighth.

Point is that Dusty didn't leave Aroldis on the bench waiting for the ninth. Brought him in for the five out save.

Should have brought Aroldis in even earlier, he's very well rested and more than able to pitch five outs.

He brought Chapman in at the right time. There was no reason to use him any earlier.

[Kc61]

Yeah I don't give him credit for putting the wrong pitcher in and then using Chapman for 5 outs to try to cover up his mistake.

He could have used somebody else and the game could be tied. At least Dusty went to Aroldis before it was too late. Give him SOME credit, if not full credit.

[Tom Servo]

Ludwick is DatDudeDP. To the 9th.

[Vottomatic]

Jim Tracy is on the phone calling Bud Selig demanding they move the home run fences back at GABP.

[reds44]

He could have used somebody else and the game could be tied. At least Dusty went to Aroldis before it was too late. Give him SOME credit, if not full credit.
He should have used Marshall when he took Latos out. Now he has to stretch his closer for a 5 out save. How does he get credit for that?

[Tony Cloninger]

After Latos gave up that 5th homer with 1 out in the 8th, I wasn't thinking it was Chapman time. Wasn't thinking Arredondo though either.

So who would have been better in that situation? It's not like Jose has been a stiff and Logan and Sean were used yesterday. He's trying not to overuse the main guys and has been doing pretty good job at it....but since Jose failed this time...it was the obvious wrong choice? :confused:

[Vottomatic]

When the lineup was first posted, I really felt like Heisey should have gotten the start today. Dusty just won't let him keep starting for some reason.

[reds44]

So who would have been better in that situation? It's not like Jose has been a stiff and Logan and Sean were used yesterday. He's trying not to overuse the main guys and has been doing pretty good job at it....but since Jose failed this time...it was the obvious wrong choice? :confused:
Arredondo walks a lot of guys. On a day where the ball is flying out and you're up by 2, that's not a recipe for success.

[Kc61]

He brought Chapman in at the right time. There was no reason to use him any earlier.

Sure there was. You avoid using multiple relievers. You pin down the win without problems.

Aroldis hadn't pitched for two days. Well rested.

There's no perfect right or wrong, but I would have just had Aroldis get the five outs.

[Brutus]

So who would have been better in that situation? It's not like Jose has been a stiff and Logan and Sean were used yesterday. He's trying not to overuse the main guys and has been doing pretty good job at it....but since Jose failed this time...it was the obvious wrong choice? :confused:

It's the typical Monday morning micromanaging.

[cincrazy]

He should have used Marshall when he took Latos out. Now he has to stretch his closer for a 5 out save. How does he get credit for that?

Why isn't a closer allowed to pitch longer than one inning? Nothing wrong with it, he's fresh.

[Tom Servo]

So who would have been better in that situation? It's not like Jose has been a stiff and Logan and Sean were used yesterday. He's trying not to overuse the main guys and has been doing pretty good job at it....but since Jose failed this time...it was the obvious wrong choice? :confused:
I don't think it was the wrong choice, I just didn't have much confidence in Arredondo in that situation. I, for one, have no problem with Dusty's decisions today.

[Brutus]

Sure there was. You avoid using multiple relievers. You pin down the win without problems.

Aroldis hadn't pitched for two days. Well rested.

There's no perfect right or wrong, but I would have just had Aroldis get the five outs.

OK and I understand why someone wants to bring in Chapman earlier, though I'd rather pick my spots with him and increase the likelihood they can use him in a stretch of games.

But you are correct... there's no perfect right or wrong answer, which I why I think the criticism of what Dusty "should have done" is a bit overboard.

[reds44]

Chapman's velocity is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay down.

[Tom Servo]

Ball 4 to the backstop. Leadoff walk.

[OldRightHander]

What was that?

[Degenerate39]

That was scary for those fans

[reds44]

I have a bad feeling about this.

[Vottomatic]

Dusty did the right thing. And I don't say that often. Usually he waits too long to make a change.

[Tom Servo]

Guthrie pinch running for Giambi.

[Kc61]

Pitching coach needs to come out. Chapman is overthrowing.

[OldRightHander]

What happened to his velocity?

[Vottomatic]

I have a bad feeling about this.

I have a bad feeling about this. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnE8RitIN4s)

[Tom Servo]

Soft liner to BP. 1 out.

[OldRightHander]

Wish that had been hit on the ground.

[Tom Servo]

The Rockies are DemDudesDP! :beerme:

[OldRightHander]

Sweet 6-4-3 to end it.

[Kc61]

Wish that had been hit on the ground.

The next one was.

[OldRightHander]

The next one was.

I'll take it.

[reds44]

Whew!

[Degenerate39]

6-1 homestand

[Tom Servo]

We're still good.

[Vottomatic]

I was hoping they'd tie it up. I wanted to see Chapman bat in the 9th.

[Tony Cloninger]

I don't think it was the wrong choice, I just didn't have much confidence in Arredondo in that situation. I, for one, have no problem with Dusty's decisions today.

I can understand that of course. Dusty has been lucky to get ...well maybe not lucky....but the use of the bullpen has been made so much easier with just about everyone dealing no matter when used, every time... 95% of the time this year.

[757690]

So does Chapman get two saves today? One for getting CarGo and Tulu out in the eighth, and one for the ninth inning,

[Tony Cloninger]

He should have used Marshall when he took Latos out. Now he has to stretch his closer for a 5 out save. How does he get credit for that?

I did not picture you as someone who would want to always manage by the so called book. About time the best arm in the pen....of any pen for that matter....is stretched out when needed...and today it was needed.

I think Chapman could go 2 if he had to. I also think just about everyone in that pen could if they had to....not all the time of course, but not this .. 0.1, 0.2 innings pitched.

[RedlegJake]

Eh...you have to use your players. That's Dusty's one strength as a manager - he believes in his guys and players usually respond to that. Show them you don't believe in them and they'll never play for you. It was Arredondo's turn to be in there. He knew it and Dusty knew it. He knows he didn't get it done this tie, too, and he's kicking himself for letting Dusty and the team down but at least they won. I think Dusty did it all the right way - he didn't stay too long with Jose but he did send him out there when everyone on the team knew it was his turn because of the other guys being used. Sometimes Dusty gets way too much criticism. If he has one real strength it's the way he handles the pitching staff.

[FlightRick]

The new record for combined HR in a homestand got me thinking about absurdly trivial trivia, and how today's game might be worth a footnote or two.

Namely, the 5 hits given up, all of them being home runs. Using baseball-reference's play index:

* Today was only the 4th time in history that a team gave up 5 or more home runs in a game and NO OTHER HITS. Oddly, the most recent incident of this was just a couple weeks ago (Texas did it against Baltimore on May 10, 2012; Texas also did it on 6/24/89 against Cleveland, and Detroit did it against the Yankees on 6/16/2004).

* Of these 4 incidents, today's game is the first time a team has WON a game while giving up 5+ HR and no other hits.

* Mat Latos becomes the 6th pitcher in MLB history to give up 5 or more HR and no other hits. Colby Lewis (TEX) was the previous most recent guy to do it. Also: Ted Lilly, Charlie Hough, Steve Stone, and Denny McLain.

* Mat Latos becomes the FIRST AND ONLY ONLY pitcher in MLB history to give up 5 or more HR and NO OTHER BASERUNNERS. No walks, HBP, errors, etc. Five hits, all home runs, but never had to work out of the stretch once. Wacky.

* And Mat Latos becomes the first and only starting pitcher in MLB to do the 5+ HR and no other hits and still get the WIN. Delicious.

Thus ends my addition to useless knowledge....


Rick

[Big Klu]

All three of the Big Three tally one up on the big board today!


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Brandon Phillips - 129
18. Joey Votto - 127
19. Reggie Sanders - 125
20. Ernie Lombardi - 120
21. Sean Casey - 118
22. Jay Bruce - 111
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

[757690]

Imagine if Arroyo was starting today :eek:

[Tom Servo]

Imagine if Arroyo was starting today :eek:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4lus0vefx1r1ne0s.gif

[mth123]

Imagine if Arroyo was starting today :eek:

If Arroyo did what Latos did today, I'd guess there would be threads calling for a DFA.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

I love the way Dusty is using this bullpen (high leverage/closer situation).

Figured I'd give him some kudos, since I've been one of his many critics over the years.