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Tom Servo
06-06-2012, 12:30 AM
Well we're bad again, go get em tomorrow.

Tony Cloninger
06-06-2012, 12:59 AM
What does this mean? He gave Votto a day off? They couldn't hit James MacDonald? That the Astros have a 17-12 at home vs. 6-19 on the road? That Homer showed up without a slider tonight? That the Pirates only hitter has an 0fer while the interstate hitters have driven in 5 runs and had 5 hits between them.

Dude, its baseball, a 162 game season. Knute Rockne was a football coach for a reason.

Do you seek me out every time I post here when I comment on the laid back and lethargic play against teams they should beat? I understand how a baseball season works.

You explained to me during the Rockies game thread that I had no patience.... now this. Plenty of people comment on how dead this team can look.

Whoever wrote that Heisey, Cozart and Stubbs all look like the same hitters....flailing, guessing and then just quitting on their AB's sometimes and striking out meekly was dead on.

Tony Cloninger
06-06-2012, 01:02 AM
Yea, so do I. Its just void of facts, thus the rhetorical nature of my post. Too deep for the game thread, I guess.

So I am not allowed to post something I see as a fact based on what I see with my own eyes?

Do I sound like too much of an old time scout who just needed my eyes to see what I knew was correct....instead of stats? Sometimes I do not need some facts on a stat sheet to tell me this clubhouse sometimes seems more laid back than the old Hugh Hefner Playboy Hour from the late 50's and early 60's.

WVRedsFan
06-06-2012, 01:41 AM
So I am not allowed to post something I see as a fact based on what I see with my own eyes?

Do I sound like too much of an old time scout who just needed my eyes to see what I knew was correct....instead of stats? Sometimes I do not need some facts on a stat sheet to tell me this clubhouse sometimes seems more laid back than the old Hugh Hefner Playboy Hour from the late 50's and early 60's.

This. Trying to be positive this year but it's evident that this poorly constructed roster is just so laid back that guessing, thanks to their leader is OK. Stats? They mean nothing if the results are not OK. I'll give Cozart a break since he's new and young, but Stubbs has no idea whether the ball is a strike or not. He's just swinging. It's the same with Phillips, Bruce, Heisey, and Ludwick. Guess hitters just like Dusty was. As for the pitching, it should have been obvious that Homer didn't have it. Instead, he allows six runs in three innings. From then on--seven innings, the bullpen allows two runs, and what would they have done if the manager pulls Bailey earlier to minimize the damage? Oh, it's just the Pirates.

Only Votto seems to be upset when he fails, and that's not often. Yes, the Reds Are in first place, but that may be short-lived if things are so laid back. I've aways supported The Dust, but my patience is about gone.

GAC
06-06-2012, 05:32 AM
Those pesky Pirates. ;)

Lets take the next two.

traderumor
06-06-2012, 11:29 AM
Do you seek me out every time I post here when I comment on the laid back and lethargic play against teams they should beat? I understand how a baseball season works.

You explained to me during the Rockies game thread that I had no patience.... now this. Plenty of people comment on how dead this team can look.

Whoever wrote that Heisey, Cozart and Stubbs all look like the same hitters....flailing, guessing and then just quitting on their AB's sometimes and striking out meekly was dead on.I honestly don't spend much time in game threads. I guess when I do, I must see you attributing failure to guys not trying, too laid back, etc. and I respond to that fallacy. The Reds won 2 of 3 in that Rockies series. I went to a game where guys were just trotting around the bases. Lollygaggers.

Tony Cloninger
06-06-2012, 06:18 PM
I honestly don't spend much time in game threads. I guess when I do, I must see you attributing failure to guys not trying, too laid back, etc. and I respond to that fallacy. The Reds won 2 of 3 in that Rockies series. I went to a game where guys were just trotting around the bases. Lollygaggers.

I was talking about the quality of AB's and what it seems like.... a lot of giving away of AB's. Just lazy to me.

traderumor
06-06-2012, 11:25 PM
I was talking about the quality of AB's and what it seems like.... a lot of giving away of AB's. Just lazy to me.And you attribute that to the opponent because Dusty takes the also ran's lightly? I'd say it goes back to "every teams wins 1/3, every teams loses 1/3, its the other 1/3 that matter" dynamic. Plus, the Pirates can pitch. There are two teams competing, not just the Reds winning or losing based on whether they feel like trying hard or lollygagging against a "lesser" opponent.

In short, I think your interpretation of this observation puts everything on the Reds effort level, while I think it is just watching two teams compete and sometimes the other guys come out on top.