View Full Version : Pirates at Reds 6-7-12
Degenerate39
06-07-2012, 03:17 PM
Cozart 6, Heisey 8, Votto 3, Phillips 4, Bruce 9, Frazier 5, Ludwick 7, Mesoraco 2, Leake 1
CySeymour
06-07-2012, 03:42 PM
Who is pitching for Pittsburgh?
redsfaninbsg
06-07-2012, 03:49 PM
Pirates Lineup
1. Alex Presley (L) LF
2. Neil Walker (S) 2B
3. Andrew McCutchen (R) CF
4. Garrett Jones (L) 1B
5. Pedro Alvarez (L) 3B
6. Jose Tabata (R) RF
7. Clint Barmes (R) SS
8. Michael McKenry (R) C
9. Kevin Correia (R) P
Degenerate39
06-07-2012, 07:12 PM
- A. Presley grounded out to first
- N. Walker struck out swinging
Degenerate39
06-07-2012, 07:13 PM
McCutch strikes out for the 3rd out
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 07:13 PM
KK
Nice easy inning. Good start for Mike.
Cozart and Heisey quickly are out.
Votto with his 475th double of the season.
He does lead the major leagues.
Degenerate39
06-07-2012, 07:24 PM
BP singles to right but Votto is thrown out at home to end the inning
Phillips singles.
Votto out at home.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 07:26 PM
Perfect throw. Why do these guys do stuff they can't do against anyone else to us?
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 07:27 PM
Cozart and Heisey quickly are out.
Can't believe these two high OBP guys are at the top of the lineup. ;)
Can't believe these two high OBP guys are at the top of the lineup. ;)
Actually, it's pretty irritating in this case. Votto and Phillips got hard hit base knocks, but it started with two out, nobody on.
Votto should have 60 RBIs but doesn't have enough base runners to knock in.
By the way, Votto was safe at home, the replay shows.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 07:31 PM
KKKK
Leake with four Ks, no score through one and a half.
And, again, Votto was safe. Bad call at home.
Degenerate39
06-07-2012, 07:31 PM
G. Jones struck out looking
- P. Alvarez grounded out to second
- J. Tabata struck out swinging
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 07:32 PM
Actually, it's pretty irritating in this case. Votto and Phillips got hard hit base knocks, but it started with two out, nobody on.
Votto should have 60 RBIs but doesn't have enough base runners to knock in.
By the way, Votto was safe at home, the replay shows.
He was safe, but the throw was good. I've watched the Buccos play some this season and they just don't make plays like that.
Except against us.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 07:33 PM
Bruce hit that one
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 07:33 PM
:jump: BRUUUUUUCE
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 07:33 PM
HR Bruce. Yippee.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 07:33 PM
They ain't throwing him out at home
They ain't throwing him out at home
/like
Degenerate39
06-07-2012, 07:34 PM
13th of the season for the Bruce
It should be 5-0 Reds. Votto should have scored. Phillips should have been on for the Bruce homer.
And the first two hitters should have high OBPs and should have been on base and then scored.
I want a blow out tonight so I can catch some NBA.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 07:35 PM
Frazier swung like a home run hitter. Just happened to miss.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 07:35 PM
It should be 5-0 Reds. Votto should have scored. Phillips should have been on for the Bruce homer.
And the first two hitters should have high OBPs and should have been on base.
I want a blow out tonight so I can catch some NBA.Two of us. Ain't gonna happen.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 07:35 PM
It should be 5-0 Reds. Votto should have scored. Phillips should have been on for the Bruce homer.
And the first two hitters should have high OBPs and should have been on base and then scored.
I want a blow out tonight so I can catch some NBA.
Because guys with high OBP's are ALWAYS on base. *grin*
I wonder if Ryan thinks you only get one pitch to hit? :)
That was right down broadway though, he's forgiven.
Because guys with high OBP's are ALWAYS on base. *grin*
Against this pitcher they would have been. I guarantee it.
And Ludwick should have had a hit too in the second. Hit it right back up the middle. Bucs had the nerve to position their players well.
Can't get a break.
1-0 Reds.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 07:38 PM
Just saw the replay of the play at the plate. Looked out to me. FSO must've had a different angle.
Just saw the replay of the play at the plate. Looked out to me. FSO must've had a different angle.
FSO replay showed Joey's foot just got in there. Very close.
Pretty risky to run him on that play, hard hit single to right, fielder charged the ball well.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 07:42 PM
KKKKK
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 07:42 PM
Forget aboput it...nice pitch!
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 07:42 PM
Leake is "on" tonight!
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 07:43 PM
1-3, that's it...Leake's working fast and loose
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 07:43 PM
1-2-3 again, again and again! Leake looking VERY good. Great movement, just tossing freely.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 07:43 PM
Leake with 33 pitches through three innings.
Big Klu
06-07-2012, 07:46 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):
Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Brandon Phillips - 130
18. Joey Votto - 128
19. Reggie Sanders - 125
20. Ernie Lombardi - 120
21. Sean Casey - 118
22. Jay Bruce - 113
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 07:46 PM
FINALLY! A true leadoff hitter leading off the inning. :O)
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 07:47 PM
Leake called out on strikes...looks a bit disgusted walking back
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 07:47 PM
It's okay Mike. Joey strikes out too sometimes.
Leake with 33 pitches through three innings.
Can you imagine the angst over at PiratesZone?
"We can NEVER hit soft tossing righties"
"We make this guy look like Cy freakin Young against us"
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 07:48 PM
Can you imagine the angst over at PiratesZone?
"We can NEVER hit soft tossing righties"
"We make this guy look like Cy freakin Young against us"
Must be the same person saying that, cuz I can't imagine there being more than one person on PiratesZone. ;)
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 07:49 PM
"If it ain't the Steelers, I ain't interested"
A quote from my father in law.
The Reds' bottom of the order up.
Pitcher, lead off man, second hitter.
Two out.
Heisey looks at strike three.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 07:50 PM
Heisey looked surprised at that call...don't know why
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 07:50 PM
As this point, I'd welcome Valdez in center over Heisey. Good grief.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 07:51 PM
Chris decides to ponder that pitch for a while. He continues to ponder it as he strolls back to the dugout.
The Voice of IH
06-07-2012, 07:51 PM
Geeez, the waste of Joey Votto is officially on tonight.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 07:51 PM
The Reds' bottom of the order up.
Pitcher, lead off man, second hitter.
Two out.
Top notch post. :lol:
Don't mean to pick on Cozart by the way. He hits for good power for a shortstop, just not yet an OBP man. Hopefully he'll improve in that department. Just not a lead off hitter.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 07:53 PM
who cares about the lunch bunch - get back to the darn game
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 07:54 PM
single breaks it up...whoops he charges for a double on Bruce's arm
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 07:55 PM
Bruce a little slow there?
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 07:55 PM
Bruce a little slow there?
Yep, wring player to laze it on
1-1 ball game on the pair of doubles.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 07:56 PM
Short-lived lead.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 07:56 PM
Well - that is it for Leake's great pitching- another double tie game - good grief
up and in just where hitters like it Mike
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 07:56 PM
now a single. For cryin out loud
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 07:57 PM
Get the dang ball DOWN!!!
redsfaninbsg
06-07-2012, 07:57 PM
First three innings it feels like it should be 3-0 Reds and now the Pirates are on the verge of posting a huge inning.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 07:58 PM
Jeez, I walk away for 3 minutes and what happened?!? Mike...say it ain't so!
Sac fly on the line drive, 2-1 Bucs.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 07:58 PM
There's another belt buckle high strike that is hit to center, run scored
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 07:58 PM
Another single. First and second. First pitch again.
Degenerate39
06-07-2012, 07:59 PM
When he loses it he loses it fast
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 07:59 PM
Who is that? That wasn't Price that was talking to Leake. Anybody know?
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 07:59 PM
Man - from movement like crazy to flat as a clotheline
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 07:59 PM
This is simply typical of our plight against the Pirates. Send them to the junior circuit.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:00 PM
double play. Much better looking with that batter.
Degenerate39
06-07-2012, 08:01 PM
Who is that? That wasn't Price that was talking to Leake. Anybody know?
Assistant pitching coach
redsfaninbsg
06-07-2012, 08:01 PM
Hell of a play by Phillips.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:03 PM
first 5 guys it was like he was getting no break on the ball at all - maybe something mechanical? Because to Tabata the ball started dropping and dipping again
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 08:03 PM
Assistant pitching coach
Thanks.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 08:05 PM
Votto took the bait. K
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:06 PM
Bill McKechnie
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 08:06 PM
One pitch for Phillips. Flyout. Dusty style.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 08:08 PM
Correia might fail after the third, but he looks sharp now
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:10 PM
Hard hit but right to Tabata
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:15 PM
Leake looked good again that inning...his stuff is breaking down again instead of hanging there flat...only at what? 55 pitches?
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:17 PM
LUDWICK!
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 08:17 PM
Bye-bye! :jump: Ludwick
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:17 PM
He got ALL of that one!
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 08:17 PM
Beethoven drives in another run.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 08:18 PM
Mes first pitch popping out. Dusty's philosophy is faulty.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:19 PM
Leake with a rocket that ALvarez handles
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 08:20 PM
absolutely PERFECT bunt from Cozart.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:20 PM
didn't know Zach had that in him
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 08:20 PM
Has every batter offered at the first pitch this inning?
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:21 PM
My my my ...ever hear of working the pitcher guys?
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 08:22 PM
I don't know about Leake, but everyone swung at the first pitch. Way to keep the pitcher fresh--for the opposition.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 08:23 PM
5 batters, 1 run scores, 2 reached base...6 pitches thrown. Wow. I'm not sure I've ever seen that before.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:24 PM
Pesky Presley gets another hit
redsfaninbsg
06-07-2012, 08:24 PM
They are just trying to end this one early so everyone can watch the NBA
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 08:24 PM
5 batters, 1 run scores, 2 reached base...6 pitches thrown. Wow. I'm not sure I've ever seen that before.
The hitting philosophy of this club is horrible.
This is the part of the order that hurt Leake earlier. Hope he can get through it this time.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 08:25 PM
They are just trying to end this one early so everyone can watch the NBA
Not everyone. I haven't watched a game in over 3 years. College ball...different story. ;)
Not everyone. I haven't watched a game in over 3 years. College ball...different story. ;)
Heat Celtics should be a good one tonight.
One out, man on second for the Pirates in the sixth.
reds44
06-07-2012, 08:28 PM
I was told Heisey was an overrated defender.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:28 PM
really great catch by Heisey saves a run!
Another terrific play by Heisey.
Two out, man on third.
membengal
06-07-2012, 08:28 PM
good lord, Chris Heisey.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 08:29 PM
Ummmm...that looked like shades of Edmonds. He slowed up right before he dove.
Great catch, don't get me wrong, but that hot dog had a bit of mustard on it.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:30 PM
Daggone it! 3-2 Pirates
membengal
06-07-2012, 08:30 PM
Ummmm...that looked like shades of Edmonds. He slowed up right before he dove.
Great catch, don't get me wrong, but that hot dog had a bit of mustard on it.
Um, no.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:31 PM
Um, no.
I agree - no way - that was pure great play - no mustard, no hotdog
That pitch to Jones had too much of the plate and Jones handled it nicely punching an RBI single to left field.
Now three outs.
reds44
06-07-2012, 08:31 PM
Yeah, not sure how that was a hot dog play.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 08:31 PM
You know, I don't why I watch these games against the Bucs. So frustrating. If they win tonight, they will have won 9 of the last 15 games.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 08:31 PM
Um, no.
LOL. Okay. No big deal. I just saw him slow so he could dive. When I say hot dog, I mean you intentionally dive to make it look more spectacular. If he hadn't slowed there, I think he could've made that on the run and maybe hold Pressley at 2nd.
membengal
06-07-2012, 08:32 PM
LOL. Okay. No big deal. I just saw him slow so he could dive.
And, again, no.
You know, I don't why I watch these games against the Bucs. So frustrating. If they win tonight, they will have won 9 of the last 15 games.
The Reds should have a dozen runs against this pitcher.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 08:34 PM
Votto just continues to amaze. He's just such a pure hitter.
Votto with just an ordinary at bat. Single.
gilpdawg
06-07-2012, 08:35 PM
Thom and Franchester together are almost unbearable.
Phillips at bat here is key. Needs to do something that is not a double play.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 08:36 PM
Nice. I'd LOVE to see a rally here.
Single for BP. First and second. We're in business.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 08:36 PM
He did.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 08:37 PM
RALLY! 3 straight singles. 3-3 ballgame
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:37 PM
Bruce ties it.
Bruce bloops an RBI single, first and third.
Three singles in a row for the Reds. A rarity.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 08:38 PM
3-3! Back to back to back singles!
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:38 PM
3-3! Back to back to back singles!
almost as rare as back-to-back-to-back homers for the Reds
Pitching change. Jared Hughes coming in.
If the Reds NOW want to revert to their home run ways this inning, it's ok with me.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 08:39 PM
Now if Frazier can hit, we're in bizznes.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 08:39 PM
Btw...my apologies. I just watched the highlight of the Heisey catch...he didn't slow down, he slipped about halfway to the ball. Trust me, I'm glad to know I saw it incorrectly.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 08:40 PM
Pitching change. Jared Hughes coming in.
If the Reds NOW want to revert to their home run ways this inning, it's ok with me.
:):):)
Frazier fails to get the run in. Force play at second, runners hold.
Lecure throwing.
1-2 count on Ludwick.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 08:44 PM
Oh no. LeCure throwing.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:44 PM
You can't a pitch in the dirt Ludwick.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 08:44 PM
*sigh* He could've rolled it up there and Ludwick was going to hack at it.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 08:45 PM
Devin is extremely DUE!
2-1 count on Mes. Swung for Yellowstone that last one.
Now two and two.
redsfaninbsg
06-07-2012, 08:46 PM
Hughes isn't even throwing strikes
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:47 PM
Blah. 1 and 3rd no out and they got nothing else..
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 08:47 PM
Hughes isn't even throwing strikes
He is, however, huffing and puffing and growling like a zombie or something. Odd looking cat.
redsfaninbsg
06-07-2012, 08:47 PM
One pitch in the zone to to Ludwick and Mesoraco
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 08:47 PM
Hughes isn't even throwing strikes
Matters not to these guys. Swing early and often and hope to make contact.
Frazier and Ludwick with bad at bats there. Frazier jumped on the first pitch and grounded it to third. Ludwick struck out on a pitch in the dirt.
The objective there, fellas, is to hit the fly ball. You wait for a pitch that could be hit for a fly ball.
Very disappointing inning.
The Reds should have a well rested pen tonight. Marshall pitched to one man yesterday. Chapman had an easy inning. Logan, one batter. Arredondo rested last night.
As I say most nights, Dusty has to be careful with Leake.
Infield single for Tabata.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:52 PM
That was sloppy sloppy sloppy baseball!
Sac bunt. Man out at first.
But Tabata makes it to third.
That one was on Phillips all the way. He took the throw at first and didn't focus on third at all. Heads up running by Bucs.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 08:53 PM
That one was on Phillips all the way. He took the throw at first and didn't focus on third at all. Heads up running by Bucs.
This
That was a potentially fatal brain fart by Phillips.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:53 PM
And that mistake by Phillips cost them the lead
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:54 PM
Inning over. Leake shouldn't have that run on the books. Darnit.
That one was on Phillips all the way. He took the throw at first and didn't focus on third at all. Heads up running by Bucs.
Absolutely awesome play at third though.... Talk about being safe by a hangnail... Baseball has become a game of millimeters in the digital age....
redsfaninbsg
06-07-2012, 08:54 PM
To this point in the series, the Pirates have out played the Reds
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 08:55 PM
That probably is the winning run. These guys...never mind
Again, it was nice of Dusty to leave Leake in the game. I'm sure his parents are pleased, his other family members, and all of Mike's friends.
But with the man on third in the seventh inning, the Reds needed the strike out. I would have brought in Arredondo to try and get it.
So Mike now has his seven innings, the bullpen is rested, everyone is happy, and the Reds are losing.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 08:56 PM
Astros up 2-0 on the Cards in the 3rd.
redsfaninbsg
06-07-2012, 08:56 PM
I'd let Leake hit, he's better than any pinch hitter they have
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 08:57 PM
Cairo.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:57 PM
Hardly Mike's fault for that last run though. Except for whatever ailed him in the 4th he's pitched a great game.
I put this one on the offense AGAIN. Flailing away at first pitches, not hitting in situations, and finally a mental mistake in a tight game that should NEVER happen. Don't want to open that can of worms again, but its as if these guys don;t really worry abput the Pirates - they are like a lot of us - ehhh, its the Pirates.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 08:58 PM
I know I know - that's not probably true but it's the perception I get watching them - no urgency - no fire
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 08:58 PM
Hardly Mike's fault for that last run though. Except for whatever ailed him in the 4th he's pitched a great game.
I put this one on the offense AGAIN. Flailing away at first pitches, not hitting in situations, and finally a mental mistake in a tight game that should NEVER happen. Don't want to open that can of worms again, but its as if these guys don;t really worry abput the Pirates - they are like a lot of us - ehhh, its the Pirates.
My thoughts exactly. And the Pirates know it and take advantage of it.
redsmetz
06-07-2012, 08:58 PM
That one was on Phillips all the way. He took the throw at first and didn't focus on third at all. Heads up running by Bucs.
The irony is that Phillips has done that a time or two. Hopefully it won't be the difference in the game. Is it just me or is Thom going to be his father far too soon? I understand commenting on Phillips' failure to keep an eye on the runner, but Thom sounds far too ticked off about it.
Cairo batting .132 takes two strikes.
Then a ball.
Then a foul.
Then a ball.
2-2 count.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 09:00 PM
You watch. With Pitt playing Minnesota and us the Tigers, by the the end of the weekend they'll be in first place.
Cairo with a soft liner to short. He's now hitting below zero, I think.
redsfaninbsg
06-07-2012, 09:00 PM
Worst bench in the history of baseball.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:01 PM
Reds play up to competition though - I'll bet they play the Tigers really tough and take the series. Seems it's the teams they should beat that snack on them.
Reds play up to competition though - I'll bet they play the Tigers really tough and take the series. Seems it's the teams they should beat that snack on them.
Except they lose in interleague play every year.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 09:02 PM
Reds play up to competition though - I'll bet they play the Tigers really tough and take the series. Seems it's the teams they should beat that snack on them.
Then, that's not championship baseball. At all.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 09:02 PM
BB to Cozart.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 09:03 PM
Heisey primed to hit an early ground ball to the infield for the double play.
redsfaninbsg
06-07-2012, 09:03 PM
Heisey is beyond due
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:04 PM
Heisey batting 2nd inspires no confidence in me
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:06 PM
Cruz is just one tall ligament
redsfaninbsg
06-07-2012, 09:06 PM
Swinging at a 2-0 pitch off the plate.....
edabbs44
06-07-2012, 09:08 PM
Worst bench in the history of baseball.
Reds PHs have an above average BA, if you can believe that. 99 pts better than the team they are facing.
Nobody responded to my earlier post, and I'm sure you all disagree, but with a man on third and one out in the seventh, tie game, shouldn't the Reds have used a strikeout reliever?
Wasn't Leake very likely to let that runner score somehow?
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:08 PM
Heisey. futile. K.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 09:08 PM
Good grief. Heisey is a big zero lately.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:09 PM
Nobody responded to my earlier post, and I'm sure you all disagree, but with a man on third and one out in the seventh, tie game, shouldn't the Reds have used a strikeout reliever?
Wasn't Leake very likely to let that runner score somehow?
I thought about it when it occurred. So yes, I think I'd have gone that way.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 09:10 PM
Nobody responded to my earlier post, and I'm sure you all disagree, but with a man on third and one out in the seventh, tie game, shouldn't the Reds have used a strikeout reliever?
Wasn't Leake very likely to let that runner score somehow?
You forget who the manager is? Not gonna happen. I do agree, however.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 09:10 PM
Nobody responded to my earlier post, and I'm sure you all disagree, but with a man on third and one out in the seventh, tie game, shouldn't the Reds have used a strikeout reliever?
Wasn't Leake very likely to let that runner score somehow?
I don't think so. He's usually a ground ball pitcher and he was inducing more grounders than usual tonight. He was also getting the swings and misses. I was fine with Leake pitching there. (of course there SHOULDN'T have been a guy at third...*grumble, grumble*)
PuffyPig
06-07-2012, 09:10 PM
Nobody responded to my earlier post, and I'm sure you all disagree, but with a man on third and one out in the seventh, tie game, shouldn't the Reds have used a strikeout reliever?
Wasn't Leake very likely to let that runner score somehow?
What pitcher was warming up at the time?
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 09:11 PM
What pitcher was warming up at the time?
LeCure I believe.
You forget who the manager is? Not gonna happen. I do agree, however.
IMO, that's three games in four days that Dusty left his starter in too long.
Dusty talks about being aggressive, but he is passive when it comes to removing starters. He loves to leave them in the game.
It's as if these guys are getting paid by the half inning.
edabbs44
06-07-2012, 09:13 PM
IMO, that's three games in four days that Dusty left his starter in too long.
Dusty talks about being aggressive, but he is passive when it comes to removing starters. He loves to leave them in the game.
It's as if these guys are getting paid by the half inning.
Dusty is the only manager who leaves the starters in too long while overusing the bullpen.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:13 PM
Frustrating team to watch. Passive yet aggressive at the plate. Maddening. But if they end up losing this - its on a mental error and those are the worst.
What pitcher was warming up at the time?
I don't know. Lecure had been warming earlier. But Arredondo hasn't pitched and is well rested.
And if Dusty didn't have a good reliever ready that's his fault.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:14 PM
Oh crus, Votto is down
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 09:14 PM
Ouch
Degenerate39
06-07-2012, 09:14 PM
My heart stopped
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:14 PM
That stung
Dusty is the only manager who leaves the starters in too long while overusing the bullpen.
That's not fair to Dusty.
Jerry Narron was Hall of Fame caliber for that particular attribute.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:15 PM
Struck him out and I'm just glad he's okay
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 09:16 PM
I knew Joey was toast when he kept reacting late. Oh well.
redsfaninbsg
06-07-2012, 09:16 PM
Simply put, not good
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:18 PM
finally got that darn Presley out
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 09:19 PM
Interesting. Seventeen of the Reds games are one run affairs. For Pitt it's 25.
membengal
06-07-2012, 09:19 PM
Nobody responded to my earlier post, and I'm sure you all disagree, but with a man on third and one out in the seventh, tie game, shouldn't the Reds have used a strikeout reliever?
Wasn't Leake very likely to let that runner score somehow?
I agreed with it, just didn't weigh in. Money post, not much I could add to it.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 09:19 PM
NICE PLAY!
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:19 PM
Oh Cozie. Nice play!
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 09:20 PM
Great play.
membengal
06-07-2012, 09:20 PM
NICE PLAY!
Altho I assume you thought he hot-dogged it...
Always Red
06-07-2012, 09:20 PM
Dusty is the only manager who leaves the starters in too long while overusing the bullpen.
Dusty is old school- it matters to him who gets the "win".
And then he does all he can do just to win the game.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:21 PM
Marshall's numbers are quickly falling to his career norms
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 09:21 PM
Altho I assume you thought he hot-dogged it...
Hey! I apologized. I clearly mis-saw the Heisey play. I took his slight slip as him slowing down. I know it's hard to believe...but yes, I made a mistake. ME! Of all people. :p
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 09:21 PM
Marshall's numbers are quickly falling to his career norms
3.32 ERA and falling. He wasn't a closer.
redsfaninbsg
06-07-2012, 09:23 PM
Last chance here in my opinion.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 09:23 PM
I predict a Heisey walk-off dinger.
Brandon leads off. He owes us one after that defensive play.
membengal
06-07-2012, 09:24 PM
Brandon Phillips' no-good-terrible-bad-night continues.
Bruce behind in the count. K.
Grilli just sets the Reds down with absolutely nothing.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 09:27 PM
I predict a Heisey walk-off dinger.
What you been smoking?
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 09:27 PM
Okay, my Hi-c walkoff only counts if he gets up. *sigh*
Miami leading the Celtics by 11 in the second period.
redsfaninbsg
06-07-2012, 09:28 PM
Late in games if the Reds are behind, I have no faith in any inning that Votto isn't hitting.
Degenerate39
06-07-2012, 09:28 PM
Okay, my Hi-c walkoff only counts if he gets up. *sigh*
What's happened to his power this year?
Now Arredondo comes in.
Dusty is also a master of using the right guy, but too late.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 09:29 PM
What's happened to his power this year?
Fluke year.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 09:29 PM
What's happened to his power this year?
no contact. Kinda hard to hit them out when you're creating a nice steady breeze for the front row.
no contact. Kinda hard to hit them out when you're creating a nice steady breeze for the front row.
If you're talking about Heisey, you might also note that he has 6 walks all season. He's just swinging at everything and making little contact.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 09:31 PM
If you're talking about Heisey, you might also note that he has 6 walks all season. He's just swinging at everything and making little contact.
Yeah, Heisey. He is due though.
Yeah, Heisey. He is due though.
Maybe but whenever Chris has a chance at playing regularly, he comes up short. He's had several chances at it over the years.
Good fielder, certainly a good backup, but not a starting player.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 09:35 PM
Ludwick! :jump: Tie ballgame!
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:35 PM
Ludwick!
membengal
06-07-2012, 09:35 PM
Ludwick!
powersackers
06-07-2012, 09:35 PM
Ludwick! :jump:
Ludwick or Bust baby!
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 09:35 PM
This failure against the Bucs just kills me. But then Beethoven homers and I feel better.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:35 PM
Hey hey hey!!!
BuckeyeRedleg
06-07-2012, 09:35 PM
Late to the party but I agree with KC that a strikeout pitcher should have been ready to go and brought in, instead of a pitch to contact pitcher like Leake with a runner on 3rd and 1 out.
Oh well.
Why would you ever throw him a first pitch strike!?!?!
Awesome!
BuckeyeRedleg
06-07-2012, 09:36 PM
Cameron Frye goes yard. Nice.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:37 PM
Never ever ever throw Ludwick a fastball.
Hanigan pinch hitting. This speaks volumes about the bench.
Good choice. But you wouldn't think using a catcher would be necessary.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:37 PM
come on Hanigan
Virginia Beach Reds
06-07-2012, 09:38 PM
UPPER DECK!
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:39 PM
Bring up Dioner instead of Negron and you have 2 choices for a PH depending on who;s catching. Not bad choices either
Must say, when Ludwick hits them, they really go.
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 09:39 PM
Hanny! Works the BB!
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 09:39 PM
Negron pinch running. MLB debut.
Virginia Beach Reds
06-07-2012, 09:39 PM
mistake pitch for Hanrahan....fastball right down the middle. Ludwick was ready.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:40 PM
Negron gets his debut as a pinch runner fly Kris fly!
_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2012, 09:40 PM
Zack was all OVER that pitch.
WVRedsFan
06-07-2012, 09:40 PM
Must say, when Ludwick hits them, they really go.
Batting average up to .217 with 8 homers and 26 RBI's.
Batting average up to .217 with 8 homers and 26rBI's
The homers leave the yard in a hurry.
This closer is all over the place. Cozart helped him out swinging at a bad one. 2-2 count now.
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:42 PM
Well up to Heisey now
elfmanvt07
06-07-2012, 09:42 PM
Good crowd tonight?
RedlegJake
06-07-2012, 09:42 PM
1-19 he's due
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