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klw
06-08-2012, 04:44 PM
Zack Cozart 6
Chris Heisey 8
Joey Votto 3
Brandon Phillips 4
Jay Bruce 9
Ryan Ludwick 7
Todd Frazier 5
Ryan Hanigan 2
Mat Latos 1

vs. RH Rick Porcello (3-4, 4.86)

KittyDuran
06-08-2012, 07:18 PM
Here @ the game and way too many Tigers fans milling about! :(

757690
06-08-2012, 08:10 PM
According to Sheldon, Cairo in for Frazier, who is suffering from back spasms.

Reds Fanatic
06-08-2012, 08:11 PM
I am at the game. Not sure what happened to Frazier but Cairo is starting

DGullett35
06-08-2012, 08:11 PM
Injury bug starting to creep up a little bit

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:14 PM
Heisey is not nearly as fast as Stubbs. That said, he's a better overall defensive outfielder than Stubbs. (Fire away. I can take it.)

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:15 PM
After the great catch from Heisey, Latos fans Boesch.

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:15 PM
Latos hitting 97 on the gun tonight.

DGullett35
06-08-2012, 08:15 PM
Heisey is not nearly as fast as Stubbs. That said, he's a better overall defensive outfielder than Stubbs. (Fire away. I can take it.)

I wil agree with that. I hate it when all Stubbs has to do is dive and he can make a catch and he pulls up and lets it drop. Seems like he does that often

757690
06-08-2012, 08:16 PM
Heisey is not nearly as fast as Stubbs. That said, he's a better overall defensive outfielder than Stubbs. (Fire away. I can take it.)

Not so sure of that, but it seems that Heisey is a better CF than LF, which is kinda strange.

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:16 PM
Quick 1-2-3 inning. Now let's get some runs!

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 08:17 PM
Good start for Latos, and a nice job by Cairo on that slow grounder.

REDSEER
06-08-2012, 08:17 PM
Good start for Latos. He seems a bit more amped up tonight.

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:21 PM
Cozart laces a single. Then goes to second on deep fly ball from Heisey.

alloverjr
06-08-2012, 08:21 PM
Good start for Latos. He seems a bit more amped up tonight.

As Cozart lines a hit to left, I'd really love to see this club go to right field more often. Heck, see the Pirates against Chapman last night and lets you adjust to breaking stuff.

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:23 PM
Votto infield single. First and third, one out.

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 08:24 PM
I like it! More!

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:24 PM
Hell yeah! Phillips with a bleeder down the third-base line. Porcello tries to flip it to the plate, but Cozart scores, Votto goes to third. 1-0 Reds. Ruled a hit and RBI for BP. (And an error on Porcello allowing the runner to advance.)

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:24 PM
Alright - ball gets away from the catcher and run scores, Vott's on 3rd and BP safe. Calling it a hit

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:27 PM
Bruce pops up ... no sac fly. Damn.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:27 PM
I thought Bruce was gonna strike out the way he was swinging but a foul pop fly

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:28 PM
heckuva curveball Porcello has

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:28 PM
Hate only getting 1 run out of that

Gallen5862
06-08-2012, 08:29 PM
Thanks for the pbp.

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:29 PM
Ludwick grounds out to third. 1-0 Reds heading to the second inning.

DGullett35
06-08-2012, 08:30 PM
We always seem to run ourselves out of a big inning. Seems like it is always the 1st inning too

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:30 PM
Not capitalizing on those kind of innings is gonna bite us more often than not before the year is over

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:31 PM
We always seem to run ourselves out of a big inning. Seems like it is always the 1st inning too

Well, they didn't "run" themselves out of this inning. Not sure what you are getting at?

alloverjr
06-08-2012, 08:31 PM
We always seem to run ourselves out of a big inning. Seems like it is always the 1st inning too

Well, in this case, they hit their way out of a big inning. ;)

Pretty typical though.

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 08:31 PM
As Cozart lines a hit to left, I'd really love to see this club go to right field more often. Heck, see the Pirates against Chapman last night and lets you adjust to breaking stuff.

The Pirates went to RF last night becuase they couldn't catch up to his fast ball.

DGullett35
06-08-2012, 08:32 PM
Well, they didn't "run" themselves out of this inning. Not sure what you are getting at?

Just seems like when we have a chance for a big inning we end up only with 1 run. It happens quite frequently

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:32 PM
walks Fielder to start things off

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:33 PM
I think that as much being careful as lack of control

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:34 PM
pop out to Cozart 1 gone

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:35 PM
They're saying Delmon Young would like to hit at GAB - how about DY?

alloverjr
06-08-2012, 08:36 PM
The Pirates went to RF last night becuase they couldn't catch up to his fast ball.

? Line drive to the wall in right center is plenty catching up. Just has to be fair. Not real sure what you're getting at.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:36 PM
4-6-3 DP

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 08:36 PM
Just the way Latos planned it.

alloverjr
06-08-2012, 08:37 PM
Nice pitch there

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:37 PM
Tigers have a heckuva lineup - injury bug really hurt them - no way they should have a losing record in the AL Central

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:38 PM
Tigers have a heckuva lineup - injury bug really hurt them - no way they should have a losing record in the AL Central

No, they really don't. They have the best 3-4 punch in baseball ... and then a bunch of mediocre (or flat out bad) hitters.

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 08:38 PM
? Line drive to the wall in right center is plenty catching up. Just has to be fair. Not real sure what you're getting at.

They weren't hitting to RF on purpose, they were simply swinging late.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:38 PM
Latos pitch is diving out of the zone and he's keeping it low so far - he'll be tough if he keeps locating that way

DGullett35
06-08-2012, 08:38 PM
The offense hasn't hurt them. Fister is on the DL and Scherzer hasn't pitched all that great other than his 15 strikeout game.

DGullett35
06-08-2012, 08:40 PM
No, they really don't. They have the best 3-4 punch in baseball ... and then a bunch of mediocre (or flat out bad) hitters.

Alex Avila, Delmon Young, and Austin Jackson are a little better than mediocre. Perralta had a career year last year and has fallen off a bit but their lineup from top to bottom rivals the Yankees IMO. Only Texas' is better

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:40 PM
terrible terrible uppercut hack for a pop fly to center by Cairo

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:40 PM
I can't wait until Rolen gets back so we can go with a Rolen/Frazier platoon at third instead of Frazier/Cairo. (I know Frazier has back spasms tonight. Doesn't change my point.)

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:41 PM
Alex Avila, Delmon Young, and Austin Jackson are a little better than mediocre. Perralta had a career year last year and has fallen off a bit but their lineup from top to bottom rivals the Yankees IMO. Only Texas' is better

What he said;)

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:41 PM
terrible terrible uppercut hack for a pop fly to center by Cairo

Hopefully they cut him when Rolen is activated. No need to have Miguel Cairo on this team.

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 08:42 PM
Hanigan robbed of a hit :(

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:42 PM
Santiago makes a nice play. Hanigan is one guy that couldn't beat that out.

Patrick Bateman
06-08-2012, 08:43 PM
They weren't hitting to RF on purpose, they were simply swinging late.

The thought that the light hitting McKenry was trying to do anything more than make contact with the ball is pretty comedic.

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:43 PM
Tigers' lineup rivals the Yankees?! Haha. I've heard it all. Here's the deal about the Tigers' lineup: They have the best three-hole/cleanup tandem in MLB ... then a bunch of "Mehs." Don't believe me? Ask any Tiger fan.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:44 PM
Latos strikes out. Porceloo has good breaking stuff but he's hardly overpowering - more of a finesse pitcher

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:45 PM
I guess I like their lineup better than you Blitz - I like it better than the Reds except for Votto

alloverjr
06-08-2012, 08:46 PM
They weren't hitting to RF on purpose, they were simply swinging late.

Hogwash. But my point and wish for this team still applies. Again, see Pirates last night sitting on the fastball and adjusting to the slider and pulling it to left center. Perhaps the swung a bit too soon. ;)

DGullett35
06-08-2012, 08:46 PM
Tigers' lineup rivals the Yankees?! Haha. I've heard it all. Here's the deal about the Tigers' lineup: They have the best three-hole/cleanup tandem in MLB ... then a bunch of "Mehs." Don't believe me? Ask any Tiger fan.

Most Reds fans think our lineup stinks too but fans from other teams would love to have Phillips, Bruce or Votto. Detroits problem is pitching. The Tigers have a little better lineup than just a 3 and 4 hitter. We can go position by position

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:47 PM
Laird hits a high fly that falls in near the line. Almost looked like Bruce pulled up a bit on that one.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:48 PM
Whew - bad hop to Cozart he hung in there and gets the force to Phillips at second

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:50 PM
1-3 sacrifice. Santiago to 2nd

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 08:51 PM
Hogwash. But my point and wish for this team still applies. Again, see Pirates last night sitting on the fastball and adjusting to the slider and pulling it to left center.

I guess the Pirates intelligent approach to hitting explains why they have the least amount of runs scored in the majors this year.

DGullett35
06-08-2012, 08:51 PM
Tigers' lineup rivals the Yankees?! Haha. I've heard it all. Here's the deal about the Tigers' lineup: They have the best three-hole/cleanup tandem in MLB ... then a bunch of "Mehs." Don't believe me? Ask any Tiger fan.

Would u like their lineup a little better when V-Mart comes back?

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:51 PM
liner to Cairo.

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:51 PM
Most Reds fans think our lineup stinks too but fans from other teams would love to have Phillips, Bruce or Votto. Detroits problem is pitching. The Tigers have a little better lineup than just a 3 and 4 hitter. We can go position by position

C: Hanigan/Mesoraco v Avila/Laird ... wash.

1B: Votto v Fielder ... wash (if anything, Votto)

2B: Phillips v Raburn, Santiago (or whatever scrub the Tigers are playing at 2B that day) ... Phillips

3B: Rolen/Frazier v Cabrera ... Cabrera

SS: Cozart v Peralta ... Cozart (we're not talking about last year)

LF: Ludwick/Heisey v Young ... wash (Young's numbers stink ... they're like spoiled milk)

CF: Stubbs v Jackson ... Jackson (but not by much)

RF: Bruce v Boesch ... Bruce

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 08:53 PM
Most Reds fans think our lineup stinks too but fans from other teams would love to have Phillips, Bruce or Votto. Detroits problem is pitching. The Tigers have a little better lineup than just a 3 and 4 hitter. We can go position by position

The Tigers sit 8th in runs scored in the AL this year, FWIW, so the duo of Cabrera/Fielder can't be getting that much help.

Patrick Bateman
06-08-2012, 08:53 PM
I guess the Pirates intelligent approach to hitting explains why they have the least amount of runs scored in the majors this year.

Why jack one to the leftfield bleachers when you can punch a base wrap over the 2nd basemen?

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:54 PM
Cozart with another single

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:55 PM
Heisey laces a single down the right field line, 1st and third

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:56 PM
Would u like their lineup a little better when V-Mart comes back?

Yes.

DGullett35
06-08-2012, 08:57 PM
Perralta has better numbers this year than Cozart so I would call that a wash also. Cozart would be better if this team had a legitimate leadoff hitter. Basically their about even but this Tigers team is an under achieving bunch which isn't like a Leyland team. When V-Mart comes back the lineup will be that much better. I still like their lineup even with the facts in front of my face. Over a 162 game season they will produce

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:57 PM
The Tigers sit 8th in runs scored in the AL this year, FWIW, so the duo of Cabrera/Fielder can't be getting that much help.

Fact.

Kc61
06-08-2012, 08:57 PM
I'm concerned about Joey here. He may faint when he realizes there are two on and no out for him.

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 08:57 PM
Votto 3-run jack!

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:57 PM
HOMERUN JOEY!!!!!!

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 08:57 PM
Best hitter in baseball! :jump:

DGullett35
06-08-2012, 08:58 PM
VOTTOMATIC

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:58 PM
4-0 Reds Man he whacked that to dead center and nailed it

Kc61
06-08-2012, 08:58 PM
Nice when Joey actually has men on base for him.

Guy continues to amaze me as a hitter. He is truly exceptional.

alloverjr
06-08-2012, 08:59 PM
I'm concerned about Joey here. He may faint when he realizes there are two on and no out for him.

Good thing he didn't faint

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:59 PM
How does a guy hitting .553 over his last 14 games keep hitting like that? When does it end? He's incredible

Patrick Bateman
06-08-2012, 08:59 PM
To quote William Hurt "Oh Joeey"

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 08:59 PM
4-0 Reds Man he whacked that to dead center and nailed it

I'm surprised he didn't watch the Pirates appraoch last night, he could have hit it to left centre.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 08:59 PM
BP makes the first out to Peralta

Kc61
06-08-2012, 09:00 PM
Good thing he didn't faint

Wouldn't matter. If he fainted, they would throw cold water on him, he'd come to, and probably hit a double or something.

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 09:00 PM
How does a guy hitting .553 over his last 14 games keep hitting like that? When does it end? He's incredible


I have never seen a hitter before appoach his AB's like Joey has recently. It's incredible.

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 09:01 PM
Porcello already over 50 pitches.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:01 PM
Bruce nbails a liner to Santiago 2 down

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:02 PM
I have never seen a hitter before appoach his AB's like Joey has recently. It's incredible.

Those guys that doubled off Chappy last night swung early and prayed - anyone who thinks there was some "approach" at work there is nuts
LOL wrong quote

DGullett35
06-08-2012, 09:03 PM
Those guys that doubled off Chappy last night swung early and prayed - anyone who thinks there was some "approach" at work there is nuts

It was going to happan sooner or later. Even the great Sandman blows saves and games every now and then

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 09:03 PM
Ludwick staying hot with a double. I can dig it.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:03 PM
Ludwick staying hot - double

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 09:04 PM
To quote William Hurt "Oh Joeey"

Hey PB, When Marilyn got back from California last night, she told be that some actress has stabbed her husband in the face with a fork. It was Reese something or other I believe. I forget her last name.

Kc61
06-08-2012, 09:05 PM
I think the Reds may be playing with extra determination tonight. Last night's loss was tough. Good trait for a team to come back strong after a difficult loss.

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 09:05 PM
Pitchers fear Miguel Cairo.

DGullett35
06-08-2012, 09:05 PM
Wasn't Cairo good with RISP last year or am I dreaming?

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:06 PM
Cairo walks. At least one way to get on. First and second. 2 down. Mr Hanigan at the dish.

Kc61
06-08-2012, 09:06 PM
Pitchers fear Miguel Cairo.

No picking on Cairo. He's done some good things for the Reds. Just not recently.

Maybe he'll have a good second half.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:07 PM
OOOOh darn - that slicer just went foul down the RF line. That was at least a clean single with Hanny's wheels

Kc61
06-08-2012, 09:07 PM
Wasn't Cairo good with RISP last year or am I dreaming?

Cairo had a terrific first half last season. If I recall, his second half numbers weren't that good.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:07 PM
6-3 ground out.

REDSEER
06-08-2012, 09:08 PM
Tigers announcers on whether they should pitch to Hanigan in that situation: "Theres a reason he's hitting eighth"

Umm, no. There really isn't :laugh:.

Patrick Bateman
06-08-2012, 09:08 PM
Hey PB, When Marilyn got back from California last night, she told be that some actress has stabbed her husband in the face with a fork. It was Reese something or other I believe. I forget her last name.

Ba-dum-che.

He's (unfortunately) here all night ladies and gents!

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 09:09 PM
Tigers announcers on whether they should pitch to Hanigan in that situation: "Theres a reason he's hitting eighth"

Umm, no. There really isn't :laugh:.
Catcher bats eighth, dude.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:10 PM
Latos only at 28 pitches starting the 4th

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 09:11 PM
:oops:

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:11 PM
Boesch busts one 6 rows up in right field

alloverjr
06-08-2012, 09:11 PM
I'm surprised he didn't watch the Pirates appraoch last night, he could have hit it to left centre.

Odd he didn't, given the high percentage of his hits are left of center (centre if you will).

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:13 PM
Miggy down 6-3

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:14 PM
Prince 6-3
2 down

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:14 PM
nice to see those ground balls

Kc61
06-08-2012, 09:15 PM
Cozart is very smooth at shortstop. Reminds me a little of Juan Castro defensively. Acceptable range (as Juan had when younger) and very sure handed.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:15 PM
K - fans Young.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:16 PM
6 of the last 7 hits Latos has allowed at GAB are homers. Wow

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 09:16 PM
nice to see those ground balls

6 groundball outs, zero FB's, you're bang on.

If Latos can throw strikes low in the zone, he won't lose many.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:17 PM
Cozart is very smooth at shortstop. Reminds me a little of Juan Castro defensively. Acceptable range (as Juan had when younger) and very sure handed.

He reminds me of Leo Cardenas - at the plate and in the field

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 09:17 PM
6 of the last 7 hits Latos has allowed at GAB are homers. Wow

Getting some balls up, bad pitches whatever, that's gotta be a ton of bad luck....

Patrick Bateman
06-08-2012, 09:18 PM
Getting some balls up, bad pitches whatever, that's gotta be a ton of bad luck....

I think he looks great....

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:19 PM
Latos with a single! Our pitchers are hitters!

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:19 PM
Cozart prompotly hits into a 4-6-3

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:20 PM
first pitch swinging - do these guys EVER watch Votto?

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:21 PM
Heisey goes down 5-3 but at least he made Porcello throw some pitches

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:23 PM
Bakersfield goes to Modesto tonight, hopefully I can tune in the game

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:24 PM
Way out on the track in RF Bruce grabs it.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:24 PM
Peralta hit the first pitch thank you - Latos got that one up in the zone

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:26 PM
Laird - ex Cardinal Boooo! singles to center

Kc61
06-08-2012, 09:27 PM
Latos has had some problems in the middle innings. Some posters have said his numbers decline after he reaches some modest pitch count.

Would like to see him come on strong here for a few innings.

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 09:27 PM
first pitch swinging - do these guys EVER watch Votto?

Votto can afford to take pitches. Votto sees pitches differently than other players, otherwise he wouldn't be Votto. It may seem easy to take the first pitch, but if guys like Cozart and a thousand others get down 0-1, they become very poor hitters.

If watching Votto was the answer, you and me (OK, maybe just you) would be in the majors. But I'd be in the high minors.

Kc61
06-08-2012, 09:28 PM
Nice DP. Love the ground balls from Latos.

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 09:28 PM
DatDudeTurningaDP :)

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:28 PM
lefty Santiago hits to Phillips who tags Laird throws to Votto DP! Nice!!

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:29 PM
If watching Votto was the answer, you and me (OK, maybe just you) would be in the majors. But I'd be in the high minors.

Old as I am I'd need to lug respirator around the bases. I think it'd slow me down.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:31 PM
Verlander vs Arroyo. That's sure an odd pairing

Patrick Bateman
06-08-2012, 09:31 PM
Votto can afford to take pitches. Votto sees pitches differently than other players, otherwise he wouldn't be Votto. It may seem easy to take the first pitch, but if guys like Cozart and a thousand others get down 0-1, they become very poor hitters.

If watching Votto was the answer, you and me (OK, maybe just you) would be in the majors. But I'd be in the high minors.

Don't sell yourself short... you always had good opposite filed power. Must have grown up watching the Pirates!

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 09:31 PM
holy crap how was he called safe? lol

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:32 PM
Votto goes for 2 and makes it standing!

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:32 PM
3 for 3 25 doubles

Reds Fanatic
06-08-2012, 09:32 PM
Joey on fire! A triple away from the cycle

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:32 PM
BP 4-3 but Joey takes third

Patrick Bateman
06-08-2012, 09:32 PM
Probly should have slid instead of slowing down. Whatevs.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:33 PM
Walking Bruce. Fear the Texan.

Kc61
06-08-2012, 09:34 PM
At this rate, it's hard to understand why anyone is pitching to Votto at all. We may see teams start to walk him a bunch, as happened earlier in the season.

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 09:35 PM
Ludwick is DatDudeDP.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:35 PM
First and third. Tigers having a team meeting on the mound. Ludwick in. He hits into a 5-3 DP. No run.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:36 PM
Ludwick is slow. Heisey might have beat that. It was a looong DP

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:36 PM
Did not realize he was that slow - he didn't even make it close

RedFanAlways1966
06-08-2012, 09:37 PM
BA leader in NL was .364 entering today's action. After 3-for-3 Votto now at .364 BA. Not that RZ cares about BA, lol.

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 09:37 PM
Probly should have slid instead of slowing down. Whatevs.

You may want to slow down on the vodka....

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 09:38 PM
Did not realize he was that slow - he didn't even make it close

Well, he did hit it very hard...

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 09:39 PM
Should Heisey have had that one?

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:39 PM
Latos starting to elevate his pitches. Young drives a double over Heisey's head

WebScorpion
06-08-2012, 09:40 PM
Should Heisey have had that one?

Stubbs would have. ;)

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:41 PM
Hits Berry in the foot. 1st and second

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 09:41 PM
Latos getting himself into a bit of trouble now.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:41 PM
slash liner foul - hit right on the money

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 09:42 PM
Hits Berry in the foot. 1st and second

Berry offered at it, it should have been a strike.

nate
06-08-2012, 09:42 PM
Late inning chat is open!

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 09:42 PM
Rut roh.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:42 PM
Boesch singles in the hole between short and third. Runners hold. Loaded up

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:43 PM
Mack Jenkins visiting the mound

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:43 PM
keep it down keep getting the ground balls

Kc61
06-08-2012, 09:43 PM
This is a very tough spot for Latos with the middle of the order coming up, bases full, no out.

Have to hope the Reds can hold the lead here. Keep it in the stadium.

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 09:44 PM
Latos made a great pitch, the batter hit it poorly.

It happens, I just wish it wouldn't happen prior to Cabrerra and Fielder.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:44 PM
Miggy and Prince due up. Sheesh

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 09:44 PM
Argh.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:45 PM
2 run seeing eye ground ball single - same spot as the last single. 2 in

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 09:45 PM
Latos gets the ground ball, it finds a hole. Cabrerra hit two similiar ones with no one on base, each was a DP ball.

Patrick Bateman
06-08-2012, 09:47 PM
You may want to slow down on the vodka....

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RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:48 PM
none out. pickoff attempt at 2nd. nothing doing. 2 straight high and away. Strike called high. up up up. Gonna be ugly. Up again but he fouled it back. Mylanta. Up but to Hesiey who makes the grab. LUCKY

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06-08-2012, 09:48 PM
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Patrick Bateman
06-08-2012, 09:49 PM
Heisey's range looking awful this inning. Stubbs catches that with his glove at his shoulders. Deep one to centre to begin the inning would have been easy too.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:49 PM
Delmon flies out on another high pitch. 2 down.

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 09:50 PM
Heisey's range looking awful this inning. Stubbs catches that with his glove at his shoulders. Deep one to centre to begin the inning would have been easy too.

That first one is caught and likely the inning is over quickly. That's really the only ball hit hard this inning.

Kc61
06-08-2012, 09:51 PM
Heisey's range looking awful this inning. Stubbs catches that with his glove at his shoulders. Deep one to centre to begin the inning would have been easy too.

Agree. Last few nights Heisey has made some great catches. This inning, the first one was catchable, the second one should have been pretty easy.

Kc61
06-08-2012, 09:53 PM
Bases loaded, walk.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:54 PM
Peralta. first pitch down. good. again. low. nice curve. In the dirt but he is missing low which is good. foul ball - again low jammed him in. low - foul. Looks like he has it back. foul - another good low pitch. walked him on a nice curve. Not sure where it missed.

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 09:54 PM
Man, Latos has looked awfully good tonight and this inning is just like a perfect storm of bad luck.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:55 PM
Fly ball and they leave em loaded. Latos at 74 pitches

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 09:55 PM
No lead feels safe with Latos on the mound.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:55 PM
Man, Latos has looked awfully good tonight and this inning is just like a perfect storm of bad luck.

Yep. 2 seeing eye singles changed the whole inning - the only mistake really was that pitch hit for a double

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 09:56 PM
Agree. Last few nights Heisey has made some great catches. This inning, the first one was catchable, the second one should have been pretty easy.

Tose great catches were ones that were simply the border of his range. And a rangey CF makes them look more easy.

Every player has an edge to his range. So, every player can make what looks like a great catch. No mater how slow or bad his range is.

Kc61
06-08-2012, 09:56 PM
Man, Latos has looked awfully good tonight and this inning is just like a perfect storm of bad luck.

I don't think Latos had first class defense behind him that inning. The first one, Heisey should probably have caught it. I thought one of the ground ball singles was probably playable.

Have to give Latos credit there getting out of the inning with only two runs scored. Bases full, no outs, Cabrera and Fielder up, that's one tall order.

If Mat can work one more good inning, I'd call this a very successful outing.

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 09:58 PM
Hopefully the Reds can make some hay against the Tigers bullpen.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:58 PM
The Reds "Little Miggy" grounds out 1-3

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 09:59 PM
Whatever "more than washed-up" means ... that's what Cairo is.

Kc61
06-08-2012, 09:59 PM
Tose great catches were ones that were simply the border of his range. And a rangey CF makes them look more easy.

Every player has an edge to his range. So, every player can make what looks like a great catch. No mater how slow or bad his range is.

That may be true as to the second catch. The first one, the leaping catch, I thought was pretty darn good, for any centerfielder.

Heisey is acceptable as a backup centerfielder. But he has to show better plate discipline. Guy has only 6 walks all season. He is not a starting centerfielder.

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 09:59 PM
Hanigan hammers a single to center.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 09:59 PM
Hanigan rips a single up the middle

Patrick Bateman
06-08-2012, 09:59 PM
Whatever "more than washed-up" means ... that's what Cairo is.

Julio Franco is what you are going for.

Kc61
06-08-2012, 10:02 PM
Interesting part of the game coming up. Chapman has worked two straight games. Marshall seems to have pitched every game this week. Ondrusek doesn't have much going right now.

Now it's a close game. What to do?

Latos stays in now, that's fine. I'd guess Arredondo will get an inning. Who closes (hopefully Reds will need to close out a win)?

Should be interesting.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:02 PM
Latos with a pitiful first bunt attempt - foul back. Fouls his second attempt. ball. showed bunt and hacked a foul. Bunt foul strike three.

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 10:06 PM
Nice AB right there by Cozart to draw the walk.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:06 PM
Cozart walks.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:08 PM
Heisey flies deep to left center

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:09 PM
I hate Heisey's approach at the plate. He swung through 2 balls to start that at bat. Should have been ahead 3-0 when he got that last pitch.

Kc61
06-08-2012, 10:09 PM
We've debated Heisey's defense. Nothing to debate on his offense.

Heisey is hitting about .255 BA. It may be the worst .255 I've ever seen. He never walks, he swings at everything, he stops hitting as soon as he is in the regular lineup.

Heisey has me excited that Stubbs may soon be back, believe it or not.

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 10:09 PM
Julio Franco is what you are going for.

Julio when he was 60. Julio at 50 was still a force.

Patrick Bateman
06-08-2012, 10:14 PM
We've debated Heisey's defense. Nothing to debate on his offense.

Heisey is hitting about .255 BA. It may be the worst .255 I've ever seen. He never walks, he swings at everything, he stops hitting as soon as he is in the regular lineup.

Heisey has me excited that Stubbs may soon be back, believe it or not.

I agree. Heisey is a decent back-up LF, but nothing more. Doesn't have the plate approach, contact ability, or above average fielding ability to make himself more than a role player.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:14 PM
single into right on a grounder

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 10:14 PM
My kingdom for a DP.

Kc61
06-08-2012, 10:16 PM
When the big hitters come up, Cabrera and Fielder, the Reds will probably need a reliever. At this point, I don't have confidence in Latos facing them another time through.

Dusty probably has a short bullpen tonight, unless he wants to try a Simon or Hoover type.

But I just don't see Latos lasting much longer and I don't see him facing the big guys.

Leash has to be short about now.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:17 PM
He's forcing it right now

WVRedsFan
06-08-2012, 10:17 PM
I agree. Heisey is a decent back-up LF, but nothing more. Doesn't have the plate approach, contact ability, or above average fielding ability to make himself more than a role player.

Word.

Chip R
06-08-2012, 10:18 PM
When the big hitters come up, Cabrera and Fielder, the Reds will probably need a reliever. At this point, I don't have confidence in Latos facing them another time through.

Dusty probably has a short bullpen tonight, unless he wants to try a Simon or Hoover type.

But I just don't see Latos lasting much longer and I don't see him facing the big guys.

Leash has to be short about now.

I agree. I think Dusty should have gone to the bullpen before the inning started.

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 10:18 PM
Argh.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:19 PM
Blast it! strikeout and stolen base, throw gets away runner at third

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:19 PM
Arredondo coming in to face Berry

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 10:20 PM
A usual Hannigan throw has him.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:21 PM
I'm encouraged by Latos start, though - if he keeps it down like that and keeps getting ground balls it bodes well

Kc61
06-08-2012, 10:21 PM
Very unfortunate turn of events there.

I thought Latos pitched quite well tonight. He got out of some tough spots. The defense wasn't very good.

And the Reds have left Votto on base the usual dozens of times.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:22 PM
Strike one gets away but the runner stays

Chip R
06-08-2012, 10:22 PM
Not crazy with Arredondo pitching with a runner on 3rd as evidenced by that 1st pitch.

Kc61
06-08-2012, 10:22 PM
This reminds me of last night with Leake. Key man on third, you need a K, go to the power reliever.

Had more confidence in Latos than Leake to get the K, but I'm ok with Jose.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:23 PM
1-3, runner can't go

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 10:24 PM
Not crazy with Arredondo pitching with a runner on 3rd as evidenced by that 1st pitch.

Everyone was screaming for him last night, in the same situation.

Cards down 4-0.

WVRedsFan
06-08-2012, 10:24 PM
This team's lack of offense drives me nuts. Score 4 early and die. In the meantime, the opposition whittles away and comes close or wins. Blood pressure suffers. Big time.

Kc61
06-08-2012, 10:24 PM
Everyone was screaming for him last night, in the same situation.

Cards down 4-0.

Not everyone.

Me.

WVRedsFan
06-08-2012, 10:24 PM
Tied

DGullett35
06-08-2012, 10:25 PM
Westbrook was pitching against his former team

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:25 PM
tie game. single up the middle

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:25 PM
Boesch just ate up that fastball

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 10:25 PM
Tigers have used the ground ball to score 3 runs. Can't do much with that.

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 10:25 PM
feels real bad man :(

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:26 PM
Now Miggy. 2 down. Man on first. Whew! Heisey in front of te wall makes the catch

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 10:26 PM
Should have brought Marshall in. Also, once again, no lead is safe with Latos on the mound.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:27 PM
Tigers have used the ground ball to score 3 runs. Can't do much with that.

And only one of them a really well hit ball that was a "real" hit

Kc61
06-08-2012, 10:27 PM
Lately these games all seem the same. Reds get a lead. Reds offense other than Votto goes to sleep. Reds starter wears down. Opposition ties it up.

Reds win some and lose some, but the pattens seems the same.

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 10:27 PM
Should have brought Marshall in. Also, once again, no lead is safe with Latos on the mound.
Yes, it's obviously all Latos' fault. Worst trade in Reds history.

DGullett35
06-08-2012, 10:27 PM
Lately these games all seem the same. Reds get a lead. Reds offense other than Votto goes to sleep. Reds starter wears down. Opposition ties it up.

Reds win some and lose some, but the pattens seems the same.

Seems like we score all our runs early. Like I said after the 1st we left a couple runs on the bases

kbrake
06-08-2012, 10:28 PM
Lately these games all seem the same. Reds get a lead. Reds offense other than Votto goes to sleep. Reds starter wears down. Opposition ties it up.

Reds win some and lose some, but the pattens seems the same.

I don't think the offense goes to sleep other than Votto, I think the offense just isn't very good other than Votto.

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 10:28 PM
Boesch just ate up that fastball

He hit a ground ball up the middle.

If that's his "eating up a fastball", he'll starve himself out of the majors.

That would be a routine DP ball half the time.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:28 PM
It's the offense guys. Not the pitching. Score 4 early and have as many chances to add more as they've had it's no wonder they are tied. This offense is terrible

Kc61
06-08-2012, 10:28 PM
Should have brought Marshall in. Also, once again, no lead is safe with Latos on the mound.

Marshall has really worked a lot. And you aren't going to bring in Marshall to face Cabrera. You might have begun the inning with Marshall, but I'm not even sure he is available tonight.

Too bad about the hit. Arredondo is usually pretty stingy with the hits, his problem is usually walks.

DGullett35
06-08-2012, 10:28 PM
Latos' outing was good. Glad to see the ground balls. Hope that is a trend that will continue

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:28 PM
He hit a ground ball up the middle.

If that's his "eating up a fastball", he'll starve himself out of the majors.

That would be a routine DP ball half the time.

H hit it square and hard. No one gets that unless they're playing right on the bag

DGullett35
06-08-2012, 10:30 PM
This team needs a hitter. plain and simpleThe problem is that were going to have to wait until the deadline to get that hitter IMO

_Sir_Charles_
06-08-2012, 10:30 PM
Did you see that grin?!? That was great. He was gonna lay down the bunt. :O)

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 10:30 PM
Yes, it's obviously all Latos' fault. Worst trade in Reds history.

Yep, that's exactly what I was saying. Even worse than the Josh Hamilton and Frank Robinson trades. (Not to mention Paul Konerko.)

Or not. Reach much? All I was saying, basically, is Latos has been a slight disappointment. Care to disagree? I'm here.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:30 PM
Votto makes an out. Unusual.

Tom Servo
06-08-2012, 10:31 PM
Yep, that's exactly what I was saying. Even worse than the Josh Hamilton and Frank Robinson trades. (Not to mention Paul Konerko.)

Or not. Reach much? All I was saying, basically, is Latos has been a slight disappointment. Care to disagree? I'm here.
I don't see the point in piling on Latos like you have, especially since anyone with eyes can tell he looked really good tonight.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:32 PM
Pop foul to Fielder near the dugout. 2 down.

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 10:32 PM
I don't see the point in piling on Latos like you have, especially since anyone with eyes can tell he looked really good tonight.

"Anyone with eyes" ... good one. When you care to have a mature discussion, let me know.

WVRedsFan
06-08-2012, 10:32 PM
Pirates lead KC and could come within a game of first. Don't underestimate them. We play the Tigers and they get KC?

DGullett35
06-08-2012, 10:32 PM
Hes been somewhat disappointing but not a HUGE disappointment. Still think hes better than Volquez:)

Kc61
06-08-2012, 10:33 PM
I don't think the offense goes to sleep other than Votto, I think the offense just isn't very good other than Votto.

Either way.

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 10:33 PM
Bruce ropes a single to right.

RedlegJake
06-08-2012, 10:33 PM
Bruce with a 2 out single to right

kbrake
06-08-2012, 10:34 PM
Either way.

Yeah I know what you're saying. This team just needs to get to the deadline and we need to hope they add a legit bat or two and not just some scrap parts.

PuffyPig
06-08-2012, 10:34 PM
Pirates lead KC and could come within a game of first. Don't underestimate them. We play the Tigers and they get KC?

The Pirates aren't going to win the division.

And yes, teams play different teams each night. The schedule averages out.

mbgrayson
06-08-2012, 10:34 PM
Pirates lead KC and could come within a game of first. Don't underestimate them. We play the Tigers and they get KC?

Tigers record: 26-31
Royals record: 24-31

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2012, 10:34 PM
Lud pops out to end the inning.