Tigers at Reds 6/10/12 (Sunday Night Baseball)

[Reds Fanatic]

Reds lineup:

Cozart SS
Heisey CF
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Ludwick LF
Frazier 3B
Mesoraco C
Bailey P

[Reds Fanatic]

Tigers lineup:

Jackson CF
Berry RF
Cabrera 3B
Fielder 1B
Young LF
Santiago SS
Laird C
Worth 2B
Smyly P

[Reds Fanatic]

Jackson grounds out to short. 1 out.

[DGullett35]

Nice play Zach Strong arm

[DGullett35]

If Homer gets that breaking ball over for strikes its going to be a long night for the Tigers

[Reds Fanatic]

Berry strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cabrera walks

[DGullett35]

He was bein careful there.

[kbrake]

Votto better be getting that same zone tonight.

[Tom Servo]

Good start for Homer :)

[Reds Fanatic]

Fielder grounds out to short. 0-0 mid 1st.

[DGullett35]

All fastballs

[kaldaniels]

Homer 1 Cabrera/Fielder 0

Stay tuned.

[DGullett35]

Votto better be getting that same zone tonight.

i was thinking the same thing. That first pitch to prince was more outside than the first 2 balls to miggy

[Reds Fanatic]

Cozart strikes out swinging.

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey flies out to center. 2 outs.

[Tony Cloninger]

I liked Berry down in AA-AAA...... I thought before they let him go he would be very good depth. Do not know why they did not keep him or do much in general to fill out the AAA club. I mean....Bowden did a better job of stocking the minors at AAA with cheap available talent.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto grounds out to 1st. 0-0 after 1.

[elfmanvt07]

Sorry to ask this, but does anyone have a Comcast or whatever login that they could loan me for ESPN 3 purposes? Just send me a message, if you do.

[Reds Fanatic]

Young grounds out to Mesoraco. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Santiago strikes out swinging. 2 Ks for Bailey

[Reds Fanatic]

Laird grounds out to 3rd. 0-0 mid 2nd.

[DGullett35]

Homer looks ok. Id still like to see more breaking balls though

[REDSEER]

Homer has good command of the fastball so far....hopefull that bodes well for the rest of the game.

[DGullett35]

I agree with the command but when it gets bad for him is when he falls too much in love with the fastball. id like to see more of a mixture but hey im no pitching coach so

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips lines a double to right off the glove of a diving Berry.

[DGullett35]

nice try

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce walks. 1st and 2nd.

[WVRedsFan]

No DP, Ryan

[REDSEER]

Holy cow. Come on now. It should be 2-0.

[kbrake]

Ridiculous.

[Reds Fanatic]

I agree with Ryan being upset. That pitch was no where close.

[DGullett35]

wow. Homer better have that zone

[Tom Servo]

Ludwick got jobbed.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ludwick strikes out swinging on the bat goes far into the stands.

[DGullett35]

Frazier makes him pay here

[kbrake]

That drives me absolutely nuts. The umpire just gave them an out when they desperately needed one.

[RedsfaninMT]

That 2nd pitch was not remotely close.

[WVRedsFan]

He had to swing at that because the idiot umpire would have called it a strike. That was bad.

[Reds Fanatic]

Double steal.

[DGullett35]

double steal

[REDSEER]

Double steal!!!! Come on now Todd....

[DGullett35]

fly ball. thats all we need

[Reds Fanatic]

Big hit. Frazier singles to right. 2-0 Reds!

[DGullett35]

2-0 good guys

[DGullett35]

Have to keep him in the lineup every day as of right now

[WVRedsFan]

I'll tell you. This kid is going to be good.

[kaldaniels]

Please refer to my Rolen thread started today for my thoughts on that AB.

[REDSEER]

The old broken bat flare.....am I the only one that doesn't like all of the camera angles ESPN uses?

[WVRedsFan]

Please refer to my Rolen thread started today for my thoughts on that AB.

footnote, please :)

[DGullett35]

Dusty bein agressive. i like it

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier steals 2nd but they are calling interference on Mesoraco. So Frazier gets sent back to 1st.

[REDSEER]

Unbelievable....what did we do to deserve this?

[kbrake]

He never touched him. This is beyond embarrassing for MLB.

[Reds Fanatic]

Another ridiculuous call. They called Mesoraco out on interference. This ump is a total emabarrasement.

[kaldaniels]

footnote, please :)

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96158

[DGullett35]

This ump has it out for us. what a shame. that throw was going to be bad if he interfered or not

[elfmanvt07]

According to Marty, it was a good call.

[WVRedsFan]

Angel Hernandez is simply the worst I've seen this year,

[REDSEER]

According to Marty, it was a good call.

By rule, yes....but that play is uncalled waaaay more often than it is called.

[kaldaniels]

It was such a bad throw I'll assume interference.

[DGullett35]

The coaching staff has been doing their HW. Smyly must have no move or is just that slow to the plate

[fearofpopvol1]

Even though I'm sure it's not the case, it sure seems that Angel has it out for the Reds.

[Reds Fanatic]

According to Marty, it was a good call.

I am not sure what Marty is seeing but I don't think I have ever seen a batter called out on interference when the catcher did not even touch him.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bailey grounds into a FC at short. 2-0 Reds after 2.

[WVRedsFan]

Angel Hernandez responsible for two outs in that inning. Pitiful

[elfmanvt07]

Last request for a WatchESPN login.

[REDSEER]

Color me impressed with Homers swing. He's had some well hit balls lately.

[DGullett35]

With that weird camera angle I thought he did have a basehit

[PuffyPig]

If the umps didn't give outs to the Tigers we'd be hitting all night.

Still 2 runs is great, especially when you factor in a nice walk to Bruce, a double steal and a broken bat bloop hit.

[Reds Fanatic]

Worth flies out to right.

[DGullett35]

and to think Votto had nothing to do with those 2 runs

[powersackers]

Is it possible Lairds leg touched Mes? Camera didn't show us.

[DGullett35]

he did look like he tripped

[757690]

I am not sure what Marty is seeing but I don't think I have ever seen a batter called out on interference when the catcher did not even touch him.

It was funny watching Hershisher state the rule, which says the catcher must make contact with the hitter, as the reply clearly shows that no contact was made.

[Reds Fanatic]

Smyly grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

[Tom Servo]

That would have been strike 3 to a Red.

[DGullett35]

The zone seems to shrink vs righties

[PuffyPig]

With that weird camera angle I thought he did have a basehit

I thought so too, an easy basehit.

[REDSEER]

We clearly aren't getting the same strike zone. I'm not normally one to complain about umpires, but it seems pretty clear to me.

[Reds Fanatic]

Jackson grounds out to 3rd. 2-0 Reds mid 3rd.

[Patrick Bateman]

Based on the actual rule in the book, I think the ump got the call correct as funny as the play looked.

[DGullett35]

That would have been strike 3 to a Red.

told my uncle the same thing. were watching the game

[BCubb2003]

I'm not positive, but it's possible that the backswing of the backswing touched the catcher in the belly. (Not a sentence I ever expected to type.)

[kaldaniels]

It was funny watching Hershisher state the rule, which says the catcher must make contact with the hitter, as the reply clearly shows that no contact was made.

My replay from behind the umpire sure looks like Mes steps on Laird's foot.

[kaldaniels]

Based on the actual rule in the book, I think the ump got the call correct as funny as the play looked.

Yep that was my gut reaction too based solely on the throw.

[elfmanvt07]

Cozey!

[Tom Servo]

Cozart! :jump:

[Tony Cloninger]

If the balls and strikes calls against the Reds are this bad...per most everyone here, just about every other day.,....then why does Baker not ever go Bobby Cox on theses umps every once in a while. Talk about rolling over and just taking it.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cozart homers to left! 3-0 Reds!

[kaldaniels]

If the balls and strikes calls against the Reds are this bad...per most everyone here, just about every other day.,....then why does Baker not ever go Bobby Cox on theses umps every once in a while. Talk about rolling over and just taking it.

I can get behind that. That second pitch to Ludwick was ejection-worthy.

[Chip R]

Yep that was my gut reaction too based solely on the throw.

I agree. I also agree that Angel Hernandez is one of the worst umpires in MLB.

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey lines a double down the left field line.

[Tom Servo]

Heisey with a double. The out machines earning their pay this inning!

[kaldaniels]

I agree. I also agree that Angel Hernandez is one of the worst umpires in MLB.

I concur.

[WVRedsFan]

I wish he would come up with runners on base. Never seems to happen

[DGullett35]

Votto seems extra determined this at-bat

[DGullett35]

the best in the MLB at fouling off 2 strike pitches

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto strikes out swinging.

[DGullett35]

wow

[Tom Servo]

Pssh, send this bum to Louisville.

[WVRedsFan]

Swung at a ball to strike out. Strange

[DGullett35]

Pssh, send this bum to Louisville.

and this bum and the next:)

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips pops out to shallow right on the first pitch.

[WVRedsFan]

Phillips. Loves to swing

[Chip R]

They are using some interesting camera angles in this game.

[RollyInRaleigh]

I get sick if national media types saying things like, "That's a double in most ball parks." Aren't both teams playing in the same park? GABP is not the only park where the ball flies.

[BCubb2003]

After Verlander, Reds batters are back to their old ways.

[DGullett35]

They are using some interesting camera angles in this game.
I watch alot of Sunday Night Baseball and this is an every week thing

[WVRedsFan]

They are using some interesting camera angles in this game.We're just used to the FSO angles which haven't changed since 1966 when Kennedy and any number of guys were on WLW-T

[DGullett35]

3-0 after 3

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce flies out to right. 3-0 Reds after 3.

[Strikes Out Looking]

They are using some interesting camera angles in this game.

They sent there regular camera crews to NY and Boston thinking that naturally they would have one of these two teams on Sunday night. At the 11th hour, they discovered they had no camera crew and hired Marty's grandchildren.

[Chip R]

I watch alot of Sunday Night Baseball and this is an every week thing

I figured as much. I'm all for different camera angles but some of them miss the play somewhat.

[DGullett35]

I get sick if national media types saying things like, "That's a double in most ball parks." Aren't both teams playing in the same park? GABP is not the only park where the ball flies.

I was watching MLB network and I forget the show but they took a poll of the best hitters parks according to current players, however the results are to be showed next week. Ill think of the name but I would like to see where guys rank GABP

[Chip R]

They sent there regular camera crews to NY and Boston thinking that naturally they would have one of these two teams on Sunday night. At the 11th hour, they discovered they had no camera crew and hired Marty's grandchildren.

:lol:

[mbgrayson]

After 3 innings, Reds 3, Tigers 0.

Bailey at 38 pitches, 24 strikes.
Smyly at 55 pitches, 35 strikes.

[DGullett35]

Smyly's been helped by the ump one inning and our inability to make a pitcher work the next

[PuffyPig]

After Verlander, Reds batters are back to their old ways.

Smylie has throw 55 pitches so far in 3 innings.

Verlander was at 46 at this stage yesterday.

[BCubb2003]

Smyly's been helped by the ump one inning and our inability to make a pitcher work the next

The two may be related.

[Reds Fanatic]

Smyly may be done. He has a blister problem so the Tigers bullpen is warming up.

[DGullett35]

Smyly is done. warming up in the pen for detroit

[Reds Fanatic]

Berry strikes out swinging. 3 Ks for Bailey

[mbgrayson]

THat is one nasty blister.

[Reds Fanatic]

Luis Marte will be coming into the game.

[DGullett35]

Bailey does not want to come inside to Miggy and I cant blame him

[Reds Fanatic]

Cabrera lines a single to right center.

[DGullett35]

quick poll. whos the better hitter Miggy or Votto?

[PuffyPig]

quick poll. whos the better hitter Miggy or Votto?

Since Votto is the best in the game, easy answer.

[Tom Servo]

Miggy got greedy.

[BCubb2003]

Votto wanted Cabrera to have a chance in the Best Hitter in Baseball Head-to-Head Showdown.

[DGullett35]

what an arm

[Reds Fanatic]

Wow Mesoraco nails the runner after he picks up the pitch in the dirt.

[PuffyPig]

Absolutely perfect throw my Mes, and it had to be.

[DGullett35]

Francona talking about how good of fans we are. He would look nice in a Reds wind breaker next year huh?

[Reds Fanatic]

Fielder walks on a 3-2 pitch.

[DGullett35]

That play by mes comes up huge

[hebroncougar]

Francona talking about how good of fans we are. He would look nice in a Reds wind breaker next year huh?

I just told my wife the same thing. I'd love to have that guy manage the Reds.

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[Reds Fanatic]

Young lines a double to right center. 2nd and 3rd.

[Tom Servo]

Alright Homer, bear down here.

[DGullett35]

cmon Homer

[Tom Servo]

A rare BP error :(

[Reds Fanatic]

A rare misplay by Phillips. 1st and 3rd. 3-1 Reds.

[DGullett35]

that doesnt happen very often. tough play tho

[DGullett35]

60 pitches for homer

[edabbs44]

Francona talking about how good of fans we are. He would look nice in a Reds wind breaker next year huh?

I thought he preferred going topless.

[757690]

Francona talking about how good of fans we are. He would look nice in a Reds wind breaker next year huh?

He'd drive fans just as crazy as Baker does.

[Tom Servo]

way to go Homer

[Reds Fanatic]

Laird strikes out swinging. 4 Ks for Bailey. 3-1 Reds mid 4th.

[kaldaniels]

I thought he preferred going topless.

:laugh:

[DGullett35]

I thought he preferred going topless.

I remember that last year. Ortiz and Millar were dogging him hardcore

[kaldaniels]

I remember that last year. Ortiz and Millar were dogging him hardcore

He apparently didn't learn his lesson.

[DGullett35]

Sure would be nice to get that run and more back here now that were into there pen

[Reds Fanatic]

Wow. Another bad call on Ludwick.

[RedsManRick]

Wish Bailey got that pitch.

[WVRedsFan]

Ludwick needs to go ballastic.

[DGullett35]

Ludwick having a horrible night. hopfully that doesn't translate onto the defensive side

[hebroncougar]

Angel Henandez is a joke. Baker needs to.get tossed.

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[jojo]

Miggy got greedy.

I thought he was safe but huge throw by Mes.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier flies out to center.

[DGullett35]

I would like to know when the last time Baker was ejected. doesn't happen too much with him

[edabbs44]

Amazing stat of the night...I have as many wins as Cliff Lee does this year.

[BCubb2003]

Problem is, Ludwick usually doesn't have much of a concept of the strike zone, either.

[kaldaniels]

Ludwick needs to go ballastic.

Yeah, but with Stubbs hurt he really can't.

[757690]

It seems Angel Hernandez is practicing what George Anderson talks about, teaching players not to disrespect the ump.

[DGullett35]

MES

[RedsManRick]

Wow. Mes destroyed that! Interfered with something there.

[elfmanvt07]

Was that interference?

[Reds Fanatic]

Mesoraco crushed that pitch! 4-1 Reds!

[gilpdawg]

Bombs away!

[edabbs44]

Was that interference?

Interference with cell phone signals, maybe.

[757690]

Was that interference?

Yes. Mesaraco interfered with that pitch going into the catcher's glove.

[DGullett35]

Kids got some crazy pop

[WVRedsFan]

Meseroco wasn't taking a chance on Angel ringing him up :)

[jojo]

Wow. Mes destroyed that! Interfered with something there.

I just caught that ball in my backyard.....

[DGullett35]

4-1 after 4. Got that run back

[Reds Fanatic]

Bailey strikes out swinging. 4-1 Reds after 4.

[Degenerate39]

I just caught that ball in my backyard.....

You live in Canada?

[BCubb2003]

Yes. Mesaraco interfered with that pitch going into the catcher's glove.

Heh. The fireworks smoke is getting in the catcher's eyes.

[klw]

ESPN said 432 feet for the Mes blast

[DGullett35]

56 straight games with a HR at GABP. kinda crazy when u think about it

[BCubb2003]

ESPN said 432 feet for the Mes blast

That would be a 432-foot home run in any other ballpark ...

[DGullett35]

That defenitely wasn't a GABP cheapie

[PuffyPig]

Amazing stat of the night...I have as many wins as Cliff Lee does this year.

And Lee has had quite a few more runs scored for him than you, but apparently not that many more.

[DGullett35]

Its amazing to me that Homer is as good as he is without much of a breaking ball to speak of

[Reds Fanatic]

Worth strikes out swinging. 5 Ks for Bailey.

[Reds Fanatic]

Marte grounds out to 2nd. 2 outs.

[jojo]

Is Homer still a "young" pitcher?

[kaldaniels]

That would be a 432-foot home run in any other ballpark ...

Can we get a solid confirmation from Doug on that? :D

[DGullett35]

Young as in his age but as in experience hes close to being a veteran

[DGullett35]

dang it

[Reds Fanatic]

Jackson homers to the first row in right. 4-2 Reds.

[Tom Servo]

:oops:

[kaldaniels]

Is Homer still a "young" pitcher?

Interesting question of course.

Young in age, yes.

Young in MLB experience, no.

[kaldaniels]

Jackson homers to the first row in right. 4-2 Reds.

So how many parks was that one a HR in?

[Reds Fanatic]

Berry hit by the pitch.

[kbrake]

That wasn't exactly ideal.

[kaldaniels]

Mound visit please.

[PuffyPig]

So how many parks was that one a HR in?

Two, Great American Ballpark and Shouldice Field.

[Tom Servo]

oh thank god

[kaldaniels]

Circus catch!

[Reds Fanatic]

Whew. Heisey makes a basket catch on the track. I thought that was gone. 4-2 Reds mid 5th.

[PuffyPig]

oh thank god

You can say that again.

[kbrake]

I thought this was a brand new game haha.

[WVRedsFan]

Homer almost allowed another. It obviously upset him on the HBP call by Angel and laid it in there for Cabrerra

[Tom Servo]

Homer almost allowed another. It obviously upset him on the HBP call by Angel and laid it in there for Cabrerra
I don't think so, Homer's looked cool and calm. Cabrera is just a really good hitter.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bunt hit for Cozart as Cabrera can't make the diving catch.

[757690]

According to audio ESPN just played, Hernandez told Dusty that Mes Laird did not make contact with Mesaroco, but it still was interference. That is incorrect according to the rule book.

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey flies out to center on the first pitch.

[PuffyPig]

While you can argue for days as to who is a better hitter, it's pretty clear that Votto is better defensively than Cabrerra.

[Tom Servo]

Night to forget so far for #19

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto grounds into a 4-6-3 DP. 4-2 Reds after 5.

[jojo]

While you can argue for days as to who is a better hitter, it's pretty clear that Votto is better defensively than Cabrerra.

The space between Marte and Cabrera is where bunts go to die..it's like the Bermuda biangle in the Tiger defense.

[PuffyPig]

We are up 3-1 and Votto is 0-3 with a DP.

If we are to win the division, we will need to see that more often.

[kaldaniels]

According to audio ESPN just played, Hernandez told Dusty that Mes Laird did not make contact with Mesaroco, but it still was interference. That is incorrect according to the rule book.

Nah. The batter can be called out if he leaves the batters box and interferes (impedes) with the throw.

[RedsfaninMT]

Who kidnapped JV and who's impersonating him. Whomever, they're doing a lousy job of it.

[DGullett35]

#19 hit streak will be in jeapordy tonight

[DGullett35]

Homer at 79 pitches. you guys think this is his last inning?

[PuffyPig]

The space between Marte and Cabrera is where bunts go to die..it's like the Bermuda biangle in the Tiger defense.

What's a biangle?

I'm guessing it has something to do with having sex with a man and a women at the same time, but at some strange angle?

[Reds Fanatic]

Fielder hit by the pitch

[757690]

Nah. The batter can be called out if he leaves the batters box and interferes (impedes) with the throw.

Intentionally. There is an exception if it is done in the act of swinging. In that case, there must be contact, the ball is dead, no runners advance and a strike is called on the batter.

[kaldaniels]

Intentionally. There is an exception if it is done in the act of swinging. In that case, there must be contact, the ball is dead, no runners advance and a strike is called on the batter.

6.06c

[PuffyPig]

Homer at 79 pitches. you guys think this is his last inning?



If he goes through without giving up a run without a huge bit of trouble, he'll likely come out for the 7th.

[jojo]

What's a biangle?

I'm guessing it has something to do with having sex with a man and a women at the same time, but at some strange angle?

A triangle that isn't picky?

[edabbs44]

A biangle is a two-sided polygon that is strictly contained in one hemisphere of the sphere that is serving as the model for spherical geometry.

[Reds Fanatic]

Young strikes out swinging. 6 Ks for Bailey

[PuffyPig]

A biangle is a two-sided polygon that is strictly contained in one hemisphere of the sphere that is serving as the model for spherical geometry.

That was my next guess....

[Reds Fanatic]

Santiago flies out to left. 2 outs.

[jojo]

I'm trying to remember how big Cecil was but Prince has got to be giving his dad a run for is money.

[WebScorpion]

I would really like to see Fielder try to steal a base...that would be comedy! :laugh:

He has one SB this year and hasn't been caught yet... :eek:

[Reds Fanatic]

Laird singles to right center. 1st and 3rd.

[PuffyPig]

in the Bro Book, what they called the "Devil's Threesome" I thionk should have been called the "Devel's Triangle". FWIW

For 2 points, what's the first and only rule about participating in the "Devil's Triangle"?

[kaldaniels]

I'm trying to remember how big Cecil was but Prince has got to be giving his dad a run for is money.

This will be a fun thought to revisit in 8 years while he is still under contract.

[edabbs44]

Is school out yet in Cincy? Seeing a lot of kids in the stands tonight.

[Matt700wlw]

In other news, Todd Frazier's wife is on twitter.

http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/2265179263/image.jpg
@JFraz14

Between Dallas Latos and Jackie Frazier, the Reds are doing well in the baseball wives department.

[jojo]

Is school out yet in Cincy? Seeing a lot of kids in the stands tonight.

Dude, it's the middle of June.

[Tom Servo]

Good job Homer!

[PuffyPig]

In other news, Todd Frazier's wife is on twitter.

http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/2265179263/image.jpg
@JFraz14

Between Dallas Latos and Jackie Frazier, the Reds are doing well in the baseball wives department.

I think she has a big nose, or as my late Dad would say, I'd like to have her nose full of nickels.

[Reds Fanatic]

Worth grounds out to 3rd. 4-2 Reds mid 6th.

[Tom Servo]

Dude, it's the middle of June.
So that's a yes? In Jersey, we started in September and didn't get out until late June. :dunno:

[cbowen2112]

Let's score a few more!

[Reds Fanatic]

94 pitches for Bailey. i would think he will be out there for the 7th.

[edabbs44]

Dude, it's the middle of June.

NJ schools are still in session.

[PuffyPig]

In Canada school runs until near the end of June and starts again after Labour day.

[Tom Servo]

DatDude1B

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips singles to center.

[Reds Fanatic]

Light rain falling at the park.

[jojo]

In Canada school runs until near the end of June and starts again after Labour day.

They have wierd beer and cigerrettes up there too.... Don't they also have a queen?

[Degenerate39]

In other news, Todd Frazier's wife is on twitter.

http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/2265179263/image.jpg
@JFraz14

Between Dallas Latos and Jackie Frazier, the Reds are doing well in the baseball wives department.

Cozart's wife is on Twitter as well I think. She's pretty easy on the eyes as well

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce walks. 1st and 2nd.