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reds44
06-18-2012, 02:13 PM
Cozart SS
Heisey CF
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Ludwick LF
Rolen 3B
Frazier DH
Hanigan C

Latos P

Kc61
06-18-2012, 02:33 PM
Lineup is pretty good. Glad Frazier is DH. If Rolen is going to play third, wouldn't just throw Todd out in LF suddenly. Give him some time to practice out there and get ready.

Only concern is how the Reds will hit without the mighty Valdez. Heisey has some big shoes to fill.

Might have hit Frazier higher up in the lineup, not a big deal IMO.

cumberlandreds
06-18-2012, 02:34 PM
Ah you beat me to the lineups. Rolen is back. Batting 7th is about right. I think I would have flipped Ludwick and Frazier though. I like these series sweeps. Let's make this a habit.
Fay says no corresponding move yet. I would think it has to be Negron going back down Louisville. I assume he has options and its the easiest move to make.

medford
06-18-2012, 02:39 PM
Does it matter if you have options if no body else is would pick him up? I wouldn't think there's much fear of losing Negron if his options have expired.

Could be Willie Harris getting designated again that way you've still got Negron to man CF in the case that Heisey isn't as ready as they thought he was or he re-tweaks the leg again.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 03:09 PM
Welcome back Scotty.

Reds1
06-18-2012, 03:16 PM
Does it matter if you have options if no body else is would pick him up? I wouldn't think there's much fear of losing Negron if his options have expired.

Could be Willie Harris getting designated again that way you've still got Negron to man CF in the case that Heisey isn't as ready as they thought he was or he re-tweaks the leg again.

I think Valdez will play CF in front of Willie Harris. For me it doesn't matter. These are both positions that need upgraded.

traderumor
06-18-2012, 03:18 PM
I'm not going to take any digs at Valdez and Harris when they did their jobs this weekend. Sometimes just not screwing it up is important. They did nothing that diminished the Reds chances of winning. Valdez caught every ball he should and Willie got a nice PH double Friday night. I tip my hat to them for that.

CySeymour
06-18-2012, 03:37 PM
I'm not going to take any digs at Valdez and Harris when they did their jobs this weekend. Sometimes just not screwing it up is important. They did nothing that diminished the Reds chances of winning. Valdez caught every ball he should and Willie got a nice PH double Friday night. I tip my hat to them for that.

My thoughts exactly. Valdez had a nice series filling in. Kudos to him.

reds1869
06-18-2012, 03:43 PM
Glad to see Rolen back. 7th is a great spot for him and his glove is always good.

PuffyPig
06-18-2012, 04:09 PM
[QUOTE=cumberlandreds;2632424] I think I would have flipped Ludwick and Frazier though. QUOTE]

Ludwick has hammered Lowe in his career (1.457 OPS). Rolen has been very good too (.914) , Frazier has been 0/5 (.000).

I think that is why the lineup is the way it is.

_Sir_Charles_
06-18-2012, 05:29 PM
I'm not going to take any digs at Valdez and Harris when they did their jobs this weekend. Sometimes just not screwing it up is important. They did nothing that diminished the Reds chances of winning. Valdez caught every ball he should and Willie got a nice PH double Friday night. I tip my hat to them for that.

I agree. They played well.

(but that doesn't mean I pencil either in ahead of better players based on 1 week like some were suggesting in the ORG today)

_Sir_Charles_
06-18-2012, 05:42 PM
Negron optioned to make room for Scotty Roles.

VottoFan54
06-18-2012, 05:56 PM
Indians lineup:

Shin-Soo Choo RF
Asdrubal Cabrera SS
Jason Kipnis 2B
Jose Lopez DH
Michael Brantley CF
Carlos Santana C
Johnny Damon LF
Casey Kotchman 1B
Lonnie Chisenhall 3B

Lowe P

traderumor
06-18-2012, 06:25 PM
Ugly radar over Cleveland right now.

redsfaninbsg
06-18-2012, 06:33 PM
Any chance this one starts on time?

Screwball
06-18-2012, 06:36 PM
So who's the first player to get plunked tonight?

VottoFan54
06-18-2012, 06:39 PM
So who's the first player to get plunked tonight?

Choo :D.

kaldaniels
06-18-2012, 06:40 PM
MLB Network just showed the video of Dusty and Lowe giving their quotes after the last Lowe game. Dusty comes off looking like a cool cat, but the network cut out before Dusty added on the drinking comment...like it never happened.

reds1869
06-18-2012, 06:41 PM
Any chance this one starts on time?

The rain is supposed to end by seven, so if there is a delay it shouldn't be much of one.

_Sir_Charles_
06-18-2012, 06:50 PM
Choo :D.

Gesundheit

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 07:12 PM
Kiss of death...George Grande is back. George must have pictures.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:14 PM
Rolen with a haircut and a shave. Hopefully new and improved.

Screwball
06-18-2012, 07:18 PM
Choo :D.

What's wrong wit choo? ;)

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:19 PM
Votto! :jump:

1-0 Reds

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:19 PM
JOEY! 1-0 REDS

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 07:19 PM
Chris Heisey is very impatient. Second pitch and he pops up. OTOH, Votto homers.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:20 PM
Cozart flies out.
Heisey flies out.
Votto homers.
BP grounds out to 2nd.

1-0 Reds to the bottom of 1.

Patrick Bateman
06-18-2012, 07:21 PM
Chris Heisey is very impatient. Second pitch and he pops up. OTOH, Votto homers.

Lol, Votto homered on the second pitch he saw.

But yes, Heisey is impatient.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 07:22 PM
Lol, Votto homered on the second pitch he saw.

But yes, Heisey is impatient.If you can get hits, fine. If you can't...

Big Klu
06-18-2012, 07:22 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
16. Brandon Phillips - 133
18. Joey Votto - 132
19. Reggie Sanders - 125
20. Ernie Lombardi - 120
21. Sean Casey - 118
22. Jay Bruce - 115
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

kaldaniels
06-18-2012, 07:22 PM
Ummm Sundeckers reporting Chapman has back issues....

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 07:23 PM
Explains Marshall yesterday if true.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:23 PM
Choo homers :(

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:23 PM
Crap. 1-1

redsfaninbsg
06-18-2012, 07:23 PM
I know, I know, but Joey Votto is ridiculous.

fearofpopvol1
06-18-2012, 07:23 PM
Latos sure has given up a lot of bombs this year. 14 on the season already.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 07:23 PM
First pitch.

kaldaniels
06-18-2012, 07:24 PM
Grande says "first pitch from Latos delivered into the bullpen"

Sorry GG pitch #2.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 07:24 PM
Latos = gopher challenged?

kaldaniels
06-18-2012, 07:24 PM
No it wasn't.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:25 PM
It was his second pitch, first fastball. Just bad, bad location. Right in the lefthand wheelhouse.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 07:25 PM
It was his second pitch, first fastball. Just bad, bad location. Right in the lefthand wheelhouse.

Did GG say it was a curve?

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:25 PM
#rallykiller

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:25 PM
LOL Chris Welsh talking about the Rally Killers.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:27 PM
Did GG say it was a curve?Beats me. I was just saying it was the second pitch. At least I'm pretty sure it was a fastball, it was awfully straight if it was a breaking ball.

kaldaniels
06-18-2012, 07:27 PM
Nice curve for Latos tonight.

reds44
06-18-2012, 07:27 PM
Grande was more excited for Choo's homer than Votto. God I don't miss him calling games.

reds44
06-18-2012, 07:27 PM
Nice curve for Latos tonight.
Throwing in the mid 90's too.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 07:28 PM
One mistake. Maybe he got it out of his system.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:28 PM
- S. Choo homered to deep right
- A. Cabrera popped out to shallow center
- J. Kipnis struck out swinging
- J. Lopez lined out to short

1-1 after 1.

kaldaniels
06-18-2012, 07:28 PM
Grande was more excited for Choo's homer than Votto. God I don't miss him calling games.

That is sadly a true statement.

The Votto call was full of confusion.

PuffyPig
06-18-2012, 07:29 PM
Explains Marshall yesterday if true.

Chapman had pitched 2 straight games so may have just been unavailable as well.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:30 PM
Grande was more excited for Choo's homer than Votto. God I don't miss him calling games.At least we aren't playing The Cardinals. He is unbearable when The Reds play "the Redbirds!"

George has a really good announcing voice, but I just wish he wasn't so enthusiastic about everything even when it's the other team doing it. I don't need a complete homer announcer like Hawk Harrelson but I'd rather not here the commentators gush over the opposition.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:30 PM
Jay Bruce laughs at the shift.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 07:30 PM
Ludwig doubles.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:30 PM
Double for Beethoven. Runners at second and third, 0 outs.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:30 PM
Ludwick doubles off the wall.

fearofpopvol1
06-18-2012, 07:31 PM
Ludwick has been HOT as of late.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:32 PM
Rolen singles to left!

2-1 Reds.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:32 PM
Yes sir! Single from Rolen makes it 2-1

Degenerate39
06-18-2012, 07:32 PM
He's back

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 07:32 PM
Go Scotty!

kaldaniels
06-18-2012, 07:32 PM
Well hello Mr. Rolen.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:32 PM
I would love to make it a short night for Mr. Chris Carpenter Lowe tonight.

reds44
06-18-2012, 07:33 PM
Lowe with his A stuff working tonight lol

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 07:33 PM
I would love to make it a short night for Mr. Chris Carpenter Lowe tonight.

Two of us.

kaldaniels
06-18-2012, 07:33 PM
Stars aligning for a Lowe meltdown.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:34 PM
Frazier flyout but not deep enough for the slow-footed Ludwick to challenge.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:35 PM
LOL did we just see two pickoff attempts on Rolen? Worry about the guy at the plate, Lowe. You've got bigger problems than Scott Rolen going Rickey Henderson on you.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:35 PM
Oh yea! 3-1 Reds on a Hanigan basehit.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:35 PM
Hanigan singles to right!

3-1 Reds.

fearofpopvol1
06-18-2012, 07:36 PM
Reds offense is looking sweet! Would be huge if Cozart could get Rolen in before the end of this inning.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 07:36 PM
Cozart Ks

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:37 PM
Not Cozart's best at-bat. K on 3 pitches.

fearofpopvol1
06-18-2012, 07:37 PM
Reds offense is looking sweet! Would be huge if Cozart could get Rolen in before the end of this inning.

Well that was a jinx.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:37 PM
Yikes. Cozart takes two strikes and swings at a ball at his ankles. I still love him though.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 07:37 PM
Bunt?

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:39 PM
Heisey swings at ball 4, grounds out.

3-1 to the bottom of 2.

fearofpopvol1
06-18-2012, 07:39 PM
Bat idea by Heisey to swing. That was ball 4.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:39 PM
Bummer, couldn't get Joey to the plate. But I'll take a 3-1 lead heading into the bottom of two.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 07:40 PM
Votto on deck, Heisey shows us why he has six or seven walks for the whole season. I forget which.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 07:40 PM
Never met a pitch he didn't think of swinging at. Oh well. 3-1.

PuffyPig
06-18-2012, 07:41 PM
Bunt?

Just a reminder that Heisey has bunted successfully with a runner on third and two outs before, to score the runner.

If the defense wants to give you a run, take it.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:43 PM
Brantley doubles.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:43 PM
Indians are seeing Latos pretty well so far. Double for Brantley.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:44 PM
I generally like George but again...he did sound more excited for Brantley's double there than he did for Ludwick. C'mon man.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:44 PM
Latos' curve is looking great so far. More of that, please.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 07:45 PM
Latos is fooling nobody.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:45 PM
Santana singles up the middle. 1st and 3rd, no outs.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:46 PM
Uh oh. Single puts runners on the corners. None out.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:47 PM
Gets an out but it's 3-2 now.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 07:49 PM
Still exceptionally irritated by that Heisey at bat last inning.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:49 PM
Strike zone seems a little tight thus far.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 07:50 PM
Check swing K. Two outs.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:51 PM
well this sucks

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:51 PM
Jeebus. 4-3 Indians.

kbrake
06-18-2012, 07:52 PM
Still waiting on Latos to figure it out.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:52 PM
Lonnie Chisenhall? Really? Yeesh.

fearofpopvol1
06-18-2012, 07:52 PM
Latos gives up his 15th bomb of the season. Reds down 4-3.

Degenerate39
06-18-2012, 07:52 PM
Time to head to Twitter to see what Dallas is saying

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:52 PM
Still waiting on Latos to figure it out.
This is the worst he's looked in some time.

reds44
06-18-2012, 07:52 PM
I want my prospects back.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:53 PM
I was really hoping Latos would build on his previous start tonight. No such luck I guess.

kbrake
06-18-2012, 07:53 PM
This is the worst he's looked in some time.

The game in Houston wasn't that long ago. I didn't see it but I followed it online and on radio can't imagine he looked any better in that start.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 07:53 PM
That could have been the worst pitch of 2012. 0-2 pitch, fastball right down Broadway.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:54 PM
The game in Houston wasn't that long ago. I didn't see it but I followed it online and on radio can't imagine he looked any better in that start.
I missed that game.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 07:54 PM
Ah...it's not April anymore, Mat

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:55 PM
I want my prospects back.I'll still make that trade again given the chance.

Yonder is OPSing .684 and Volquez is still very much Volquez, on pace for 114 walks even pitching in Petco.

Still early but I think Latos will get it figured out. He sure has been frustrating at times though so far. That's for sure.

Degenerate39
06-18-2012, 07:56 PM
Dallas Latos ‏@DallasLatos

Block button on high. Don't talk to me.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 07:56 PM
Votto out on an excuse me chopper.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:57 PM
Dallas Latos ‏@DallasLatos

Block button on high. Don't talk to me.She needs to mellow out a bit. It's cool that she tweets but she's a little much at times.

reds44
06-18-2012, 07:57 PM
She needs to mellow out a bit. It's cool that she tweets but she's a little much at times.
Or, you know, people could not harass her when her husband pitches poorly.

But yes, blame her.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 07:57 PM
Hit by BP up the middle.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 07:57 PM
Alright, gonna need more runs.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:57 PM
Basehit up the middle for Phillips.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 07:58 PM
She needs to mellow out a bit. It's cool that she tweets but she's a little much at times.Yes. All the tattoos and attitude. Makes me wonder.

cincrazy
06-18-2012, 07:58 PM
Or, you know, people could not harass her when her husband pitches poorly.

But yes, blame her.

She's making herself the center of attention. I'm not excusing the actions of others, but when you make yourself that visible, it's going to happen. That's just a fact.

kbrake
06-18-2012, 07:59 PM
Or, you know, people could not harass her when her husband pitches poorly.

But yes, blame her.

Come on man, she has looked for it on at least one occasion. Of course it is wrong for people to attack her but she has pretty thin skin about it.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:59 PM
Or, you know, people could not harass her when her husband pitches poorly.

But yes, blame her.Not blaming her at all. People who are rude to her are goons that are complete scum. I just wish she wouldn't be quite as controversial as she is at times. Maybe when Mat pitches poor she should just ignore twitter for a while.

cincrazy
06-18-2012, 07:59 PM
Latos misses over the middle of the plate wayyyyyyy too often.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 07:59 PM
2 on, 1 out as Bruce walks.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 07:59 PM
Ludwick. Please

reds44
06-18-2012, 08:01 PM
Not blaming her at all. People who are rude to her are goons that are complete scum. I just wish she wouldn't be quite as controversial as she is at times. Maybe when Mat pitches poor she should just ignore twitter for a while.
The fact grown men seek her out and her harass her on twitter when he husband pitches like doodoo is hilariously embarrassing. What are you doing with your lives?

(not you, obviously, you in general)

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 08:01 PM
looked fair to me :(

Kc61
06-18-2012, 08:01 PM
Reds were just robbed there. That was down the line.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 08:02 PM
That one is fair! :)

cincrazy
06-18-2012, 08:02 PM
This one is fair :).

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:02 PM
Ludwick! 4-4 ballgame and runners at second and third.

fearofpopvol1
06-18-2012, 08:02 PM
Ludwick is absolutely on fire!!!

Kc61
06-18-2012, 08:02 PM
LOL, Ludwick says "oh yeah" and hits the double again. I guess sometimes you have to do it twice.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:03 PM
The fact grown men seek her out and her harass her on twitter when he husband pitches like doodoo is hilariously embarrassing. What are you doing with your lives?

(not you, obviously, you in general)I agree. No argument there.

Degenerate39
06-18-2012, 08:03 PM
Look out Joey Votto. Ludwick is looking to be the new doubles leader lol

edabbs44
06-18-2012, 08:03 PM
The fact grown men seek her out and her harass her on twitter when he husband pitches like doodoo is hilariously embarrassing. What are you doing with your lives?

(not you, obviously, you in general)

How much different is that than what happens on here on a nightly basis?

cincrazy
06-18-2012, 08:03 PM
A few weeks ago I more or less claimed that Ryan Ludwick was the worst player in the history of the world. I need to eat some serious, big heaping amounts of crow.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 08:03 PM
Beethoven just hits lately. Give him enough paying time and he will drive in runs.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:03 PM
Rolen! 5-4 Reds

kaldaniels
06-18-2012, 08:04 PM
In game entertainment for you guys...

http://m.deadspin.com/5919417/the-best-hitter-in-baseball-thinks-it-should-be-a-pitchers-game

As always some great stuff in the comments.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 08:04 PM
Rolen is rollin!

Kc61
06-18-2012, 08:04 PM
RBI single by Rolen. Ludwick holds at third.

fearofpopvol1
06-18-2012, 08:04 PM
Welcome back, Scott Rolen!

cincrazy
06-18-2012, 08:04 PM
KEEP ROLEN ROLEN ROLEN ROLEN. Rbi single Scotty!

kbrake
06-18-2012, 08:04 PM
I wouldn't hesitate to let Simon, Hoover, and LeCure get some work tonight.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:04 PM
Welcome back Scott. We never doubted you for a second. :p

Kc61
06-18-2012, 08:05 PM
Welcome back Scott. We never doubted you for a second. :p

LOL. This rally is very un-Reds like. C'mon Frazier, keep it going.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 08:06 PM
Double play. NG. Reds by one.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:06 PM
Ah crap. Double play. THOSE are the Rally Killers, Chris.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 08:06 PM
I wouldn't hesitate to let Simon, Hoover, and LeCure get some work tonight.
Agreed. Gotta know when to hold em and know when to fold em, and I wouldn't hang my hat on Latos getting much better tonight.

fearofpopvol1
06-18-2012, 08:06 PM
I don't think there is too much more depressing than a double play with a runner at 3rd.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-18-2012, 08:07 PM
Ludwick would have scored. Oh well.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 08:07 PM
Nice to have five runs in the third inning, but the Reds should have a couple more.

kaldaniels
06-18-2012, 08:08 PM
Nice to have five runs in the third inning, but the Reds should have a couple more.

It rests on the batters, but Berry kinda conservative at 3B tonight.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 08:08 PM
I fear the Tribe will score a couple in the bottom frame.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 08:09 PM
It rests on the batters, but Berry kinda conservative at 3B tonight.I thought he must have been sick. Holding runners is not his custom.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:10 PM
I fear the Tribe will score a couple in the bottom frame.Think positive. :) Serenity now!

reds44
06-18-2012, 08:10 PM
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/182123_333945156680938_1490848707_n.jpg

This is awesome hahaha.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:11 PM
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/182123_333945156680938_1490848707_n.jpg

This is awesome hahaha.LOL wow.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 08:11 PM
One out, K by Latos.

PuffyPig
06-18-2012, 08:11 PM
I fear the Tribe will score a couple in the bottom frame.

And in other news, the Pope is Catholic.......

;)

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:11 PM
What a play by Latos there. Nice, 2 outs.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 08:11 PM
Nice play by Latos on infield chopper, unassisted, two down.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 08:11 PM
Good play by Latos

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 08:12 PM
Close play.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 08:13 PM
Latos does seem more effective with the hook tonight. Much of the damage has been done on the fastball.

Fourth inning coming up, Reds by one.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-18-2012, 08:13 PM
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/182123_333945156680938_1490848707_n.jpg

This is awesome hahaha.

Going old school, I see. Love it.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:13 PM
Hey hey! Finally a clean inning from Latos and we go back to work on Lowe leading 5-4

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 08:13 PM
Nice comeback for Mat. Sitting at 42 pitches.

reds44
06-18-2012, 08:13 PM
Going old school, I see. Love it.
The best part is him sitting on the floor Indian style.

kaldaniels
06-18-2012, 08:13 PM
I enjoyed seeing Latos get Kipnis's helmet for him and ask if he was alright. What can I say I like stuff like that.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 08:14 PM
good start!

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:15 PM
Basehit for Hanigan. Good way to start things off.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 08:15 PM
As Indian announcers point out, Reds are swinging early in the count tonight. Lowe has been like a batting tee in this game, Reds need to keep pushing the envelope.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:16 PM
Not Cozart's best night at the plate so far. C'mon Heisey.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 08:16 PM
Thanks for nothing Cozart and Heisey. :(

Kc61
06-18-2012, 08:16 PM
Get me Valdez.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:16 PM
Wow. Heisey swining first pitch double play.

redsfaninbsg
06-18-2012, 08:16 PM
Poor Joey nobody ever on base.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:17 PM
Top of the lineup sure isn't doing much tonight.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 08:18 PM
Heisey's coming off an injury absence, I guess it's fair to give him a game to get his timing back.

Having said that, I'm ready for Stubbs again, which is saying something.

Cozart had a really good weekend against the Mets, I'll give him a break here.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 08:19 PM
Heisey :(

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:19 PM
Heisey not having much luck tonight. :(

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 08:20 PM
The fascination with Heisey amazes me. He's impatient, never walks, and tends to not hit in the clutch. He also drives me nuts with his routes to the ball in the field. He is not an everyday player. A example just now.

kbrake
06-18-2012, 08:20 PM
Heisey doing all he can to have Reds fans craving for Wilson Valdez.

kaldaniels
06-18-2012, 08:20 PM
Overdove it?

kbrake
06-18-2012, 08:21 PM
Overdove it?

Needs to watch more tape of Jim Edmonds to learn exactly how that is done. Catch then you dive.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 08:21 PM
Heisey is having a nightmare tonight.

But that ball was hit very sharply against Latos. Now Mat is behind 3-1 in the count.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:22 PM
K. 1 out.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 08:23 PM
Watching on Extra Innings the Indians feed. These announcers rival the Pirates' announcers. Both sets of announcers are doing World Series games in June. Relax guys.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-18-2012, 08:24 PM
Tiny strike zone.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:24 PM
He's not getting any calls inside at all tonight.

hebroncougar
06-18-2012, 08:24 PM
Man, are those missing inside? Is there a live pitch f/x somewhere?

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 08:25 PM
Watching on Extra Innings the Indians feed. These announcers rival the Pirates' announcers. Both sets of announcers are doing World Series games in June. Relax guys.

You shouda benn in Pittsburgh this weekend. You would have thought it was late September.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:27 PM
Oh my god. 6-4

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 08:27 PM
Fudge

BuckeyeRedleg
06-18-2012, 08:27 PM
Mat Latos is killing me.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 08:27 PM
alright get him out

kbrake
06-18-2012, 08:27 PM
Ok I've seen enough from Latos for tonight.

Degenerate39
06-18-2012, 08:27 PM
Get him the hell out of the game

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 08:27 PM
Get Sam ready.

hebroncougar
06-18-2012, 08:27 PM
Mat Latos is killing me.

Man, I'm telling ya, he's got to throw it right down the middle to get a strike called.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 08:28 PM
I feel like it's even worse that he gets two outs, and then gives up the two run HR. Killing me.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:28 PM
And now a triple.

Crumbley
06-18-2012, 08:28 PM
DirecTV is out so I haven't seen any of the game. Latos, Latos, Latos. A huge disappointment.

edabbs44
06-18-2012, 08:28 PM
Kotchman is a big time power hitter.

kbrake
06-18-2012, 08:28 PM
Man, I'm telling ya, he's got to throw it right down the middle to get a strike called.

That first ball to Kotchman wasn't even close. No idea how an ump misses that bad.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-18-2012, 08:29 PM
Seriously, this guy has been pretty bad through 14 starts now.

The weak link of the rotation so far for sure.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 08:29 PM
Kotchman is a big time power hitter.
Kotchman's at least a legit pro. Lonnie Chisenhall is the dagger to me.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 08:29 PM
Indians with five extra base hits. Price is out to talk to Latos. Indians announcers think this is the NBA Finals. Game 7. Tie game. Lebron at the line with 4.5 seconds left.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:29 PM
Lecure up in the pen.

reds44
06-18-2012, 08:29 PM
Oy vey.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 08:30 PM
:bang:

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:30 PM
Get him OUT of there.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 08:30 PM
I fear the Tribe will score a couple in the bottom frame.
Hate that I predicted this a couple ago. Time to get him out of there.

redsfaninbsg
06-18-2012, 08:30 PM
Bullpen.

kbrake
06-18-2012, 08:30 PM
Can't get anyone warmed up quick enough.

Kc61
06-18-2012, 08:31 PM
Double by Choo, the "Indians extra base machine" excites the announcers. Big time.

I would think perhaps the Reds might consider a different pitcher about now. Guess not........

BuckeyeRedleg
06-18-2012, 08:31 PM
I'll still make that trade again given the chance.

Yonder is OPSing .684 and Volquez is still very much Volquez, on pace for 114 walks even pitching in Petco.

Still early but I think Latos will get it figured out. He sure has been frustrating at times though so far. That's for sure.


Seeing what I've seen of him through 14 starts, I wouldn't have given up as much or I just wouldn't have made the trade at all. Again, hindsight and all.

reds44
06-18-2012, 08:31 PM
5.11 ERA for Latos.

oneupper
06-18-2012, 08:31 PM
So, its not the GABP effect?

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 08:31 PM
Seeing what I've seen of him through 14 starts, I wouldn't have given up as much or I just wouldn't have made the trade at all. Again, hindsight and all.
I still think Latos makes it work in the longrun. Sure is tough to stomach watching him at the moment though.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 08:32 PM
Gotta blame some of this on the plate umpire, but not all of it.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:32 PM
Can't buy a strike on the corners.

redsfaninbsg
06-18-2012, 08:32 PM
5.11 ERA for Latos.

No doubt, nearly half a season in it has been ugly.

cincrazy
06-18-2012, 08:33 PM
Latos is better than this. But I haven't seen anything to indicate he's worth what we gave up.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 08:33 PM
Let's hope Lowe continues to suck and we get a couple. Their bullpen might shut us down.

cincrazy
06-18-2012, 08:34 PM
I don't think you can blame the ump for this. Good pitchers deal with shaky umps on a regular basis. Latos completely disintegrates. Early in the game, it seems after every hit he gave up he was shaking his head, or kicking the dirt. He has a very hard time keeping himself composed.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 08:34 PM
But I haven't seen anything to indicate he's worth what we gave up.
I think that mindset will kill ya.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:34 PM
I wonder if Latos is hiding an injury or something. He is better than this. Even switching to GABP he isn't this bad. I remember Ryan Dempster hitting 94 for the Reds when his arm was absolutely shredded so this makes me wonder.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 08:35 PM
Votto saying this game ain't over yet.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:35 PM
Joey Votto can hit the baseball. Double.

cincrazy
06-18-2012, 08:35 PM
I think that mindset will kill ya.

Truth.

Homer Bailey
06-18-2012, 08:36 PM
I think that mindset will kill ya.

Yep.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 08:36 PM
Why bunt your cleanup hitter?

cincrazy
06-18-2012, 08:36 PM
On the plus side, this Votto guy is pretty good.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-18-2012, 08:36 PM
I don't think you can blame the ump for this. Good pitchers deal with shaky umps on a regular basis. Latos completely disintegrates. Early in the game, it seems after every hit he gave up he was shaking his head, or kicking the dirt. He has a very hard time keeping himself composed.

He's got the arm of a Doc Gooden and the makeup of a 20-year old Homer Bailey.

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 08:37 PM
tie game! :jump:

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:37 PM
7-7 Reds! It's a long way from over.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 08:37 PM
Holy Bejesus.

cincrazy
06-18-2012, 08:37 PM
Indians LF misplays the crap out of that and it's a tie game!

kbrake
06-18-2012, 08:38 PM
This is just one of those games. Really wish we hit last, haha.

WVRedsFan
06-18-2012, 08:38 PM
Lousy scoring decision. How do you blame the fielder got that?

LvJ
06-18-2012, 08:38 PM
This is going to be entertaining, at least.

hebroncougar
06-18-2012, 08:38 PM
Jesus, I thought that was an inside the parker, no error. But they are calling it a double and an error.

reds44
06-18-2012, 08:39 PM
This is how baseball should be played lol

BuckeyeRedleg
06-18-2012, 08:39 PM
That strike to Bruce was a ball for Latos.

kaldaniels
06-18-2012, 08:39 PM
Jesus, I thought that was an inside the parker, no error. But they are calling it a double and an error.

Commissioner's appeal!

Tom Servo
06-18-2012, 08:39 PM
Jesus, I thought that was an inside the parker, no error. But they are calling it a double and an error.
No idea how they call Bruce's a homer against the Mets and that an error.

hebroncougar
06-18-2012, 08:39 PM
I don't think you can blame the ump for this. Good pitchers deal with shaky umps on a regular basis. Latos completely disintegrates. Early in the game, it seems after every hit he gave up he was shaking his head, or kicking the dirt. He has a very hard time keeping himself composed.

Normally I'd agree. But look at the box score. On both sides. This guy is making them "throw it down the chute" as I used to say.

mbgrayson
06-18-2012, 08:40 PM
This is just one of those games. Really wish we hit last, haha.

We will, if the Indians lead in the middle of the 9th...;)

Kc61
06-18-2012, 08:40 PM
Pretty inconceivable that Lowe is still in this ballgame.

The Operator
06-18-2012, 08:40 PM
Bruce stings it but it finds Choo's glove.