6/24/12 - Reds vs Twins

[Reds Fanatic]

Reds lineup:

Heisey CF
Valdez SS
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Ludwick LF
Frazier 3B
Mesoraco C
Leake P

[Reds Fanatic]

Twins lineup:

Revere CF
Mastroianni RF
Mauer C
Willingham LF
Morneau 1B
Plouffe 3B
Dozier SS
Casilla 2B
Diamond P

[reds1869]

So, if we bash Valdez in the two hole will he have a monster game?

[cumberlandreds]

FYI This is the free game of the day on MLB.com

[WVRedsFan]

Recipe for disaster. Leadoff man OBP is .301. Pray that Valdez does something. Same with Mes. I really don't understand.

[reds1869]

Recipe for disaster. Leadoff man OBP is .301. Pray that Valdez does something. Same with Mes. I really don't understand.

I would really like to try Phillips at lead off and Frazier number two.

[Gallen5862]

This game is the free mlb.com game of the day.

[Reds Fanatic]

Revere singles to right

[Reds Fanatic]

Mastroianni sacrifices the runner to 2nd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Mauer grounds out to 2nd. Runner to 3rd. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Willingham flies out to right. 0-0 mid 1st.

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey flies out to the track in center.

[Reds Fanatic]

Valdez strikes out swinging.

[WVRedsFan]

One pitch, one out. I know some of you don't agree with working the count, but this pitcher is good. A low pitch count could spell disaster today and this win is needed. A ten pitch inning may mean a complete game.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto strikes out swinging on a pitch in the dirt. 0-0 after 1.

[Reds Fanatic]

Morneau pops out to 3rd.

[kaldaniels]

One pitch, one out. I know some of you don't agree with working the count, but this pitcher is good. A low pitch count could spell disaster today and this win is needed.

If every player makes as good contact as Heisey did on that pitch I don't care if Diamond pitches a 27 pitch perfect game.

[Reds Fanatic]

Plouffe strikes out swinging.

[WVRedsFan]

If every player makes as good contact as Heisey did on that pitch I don't care if Diamond pitches a 27 pitch perfect game.

Huh? Surely you jest.

:)

[PuffyPig]

One pitch, one out. I know some of you don't agree with working the count, but this pitcher is good. A low pitch count could spell disaster today and this win is needed.

Firstly, Hesey crushed that pitch.

Secondly, you let a strike go by and start out 0-1 your hitting ability goes down considerably.

The stats clearly show that if you get a first pitch strike you should generally swing at it.

And working the count generally means taking balls, not taking strikes, and swinging and missing. If the pitcher is a "pitch to contact" type pitcher ( as this starter is), the pitches will get worse as you get behind in the count.

We all agree that working the count is a good thing, but you can't guarantee it just becuse you want to go to a full count every batter. You start by letting strikes go by and you be shut out before you know it. The job of every pitcher to to prevent you from "working the count".

For some reason you seem to be under the impression that if you take the first pitch it will be a ball.

[Tom Servo]

Leakey's on a roll.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dozier strikes out swinging. 0-0 mid 2nd.

[PuffyPig]

Huh? Surely you jest.

:)

I think what he really means is he would take Heisey's contact on every pitch.

FWIW, the best contact on any pitch today is by Heisey's first pitch swing.

[kaldaniels]

Huh? Surely you jest.

:)

Just like the time Baxter ate the whole wheel of cheese, I wouldn't be mad, I'd be impressed.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips grounds out to short.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce strikes out swinging.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ludwick walks.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier grounds out to 3rd on the first pitch. 0-0 after 2.

[Reds Fanatic]

Casilla flies out to the track in left.

[Reds Fanatic]

Diamond grounds out to Mesoraco. 2 outs.

[Kc61]

One pitch, one out. I know some of you don't agree with working the count, but this pitcher is good. A low pitch count could spell disaster today and this win is needed. A ten pitch inning may mean a complete game.

There is no count to work with this pitcher. Look at his numbers.

Diamond has two attributes. Ground balls. Low walk total.

He is hittable. Gives up hits. Despite grounder tendencies, gives up homers.

So, Reds can stand around waiting for the occasional walk. Or they can look for good pitches to hit early in the count.

If you're waiting for his control to fall apart by standing there like a statue, good luck. Probably won't happen.

[Reds Fanatic]

Revere grounds out to 2nd. 0-0 mid 3rd.

[Tom Servo]

Leakey's on a roll.

[Reds Fanatic]

Tigers off to a quick 2-0 lead on the Pirates in the 1st.

[Reds Fanatic]

Mesoraco doubles down the left field line.

[Reds Fanatic]

Leake sacrifices to move Mesoraco to 3rd.

[Tom Servo]

Gotta hit it further than that.

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey flies to left but not deep enough for Mesoraco to try to score. 2 outs.

[Tom Servo]

Valdez delivers!

[Reds Fanatic]

Big 2 out hit for Valdez. Single to right. 1-0 Reds.

[WVRedsFan]

Valdez strikes again. 1-0 Reds.

[fearofpopvol1]

Valdez has been clutch the last few weeks. He's really given the Reds some good ABs.

[WVRedsFan]

Man, has Diamond got Joey fooled.

[WVRedsFan]

Note to FSO. This is baseball season. Love Butch Jones, but really?

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto is hit in the hip by the pitch.

[kaldaniels]

Nice restraint on the Heisey AB by the way WV.

[KittyDuran]

View from my seat...6131

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips hit by the pitch. Bases loaded for Bruce.

[WVRedsFan]

Nice restraint on the Heisey AB by the way WV.

It's hopeless with him. Might as well keep the cussing to myself.

[WVRedsFan]

Make them pay, Jay.

[Tom Servo]

:(

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce flies out to left. 1-0 Reds after 3.

[mbgrayson]

I'm waiting for Jay to get hot again....

[The Voice of IH]

Note to FSO. This is baseball season. Love Butch Jones, but really?

FSO carries many Cincinnati Bearcat games. And since Reds broadcast are so popular it makes sense that they would use it to promote other programs like Bearcat football/basketball.

[Reds Fanatic]

Mastroianni grounds out to 3rd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Mauer strikes out swinging. 3 Ks for Leake

[RedsfaninMT]

Nice K of Mauer.

[Tom Servo]

Leakey's on a roll.

[Reds Fanatic]

Willingham grounds out to 3rd on the first pitch. 1-0 Reds mid 4th.

[WVRedsFan]

FSO carries many Cincinnati Bearcat games. And since Reds broadcast are so popular it makes sense that they would use it to promote other programs like Bearcat football/basketball.

Little early, though. I was waiting for George to ask if UC was going to the Big 12, which has been mentioned lately, but he was too concerned with the Miami NBA team.

[The Voice of IH]

What is the pitch count of Leake so far?

[WVRedsFan]

What is the pitch count of Leake so far?

44

[Reds Fanatic]

Ludwick grounds out to short on a good play by Dozier.

[Tom Servo]

boy is Ludwick slow lol

[The Voice of IH]

Little early, though. I was waiting for George to ask if UC was going to the Big 12, which has been mentioned lately, but he was too concerned with the Miami NBA team.

I feel ya.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier strikes out swingng. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Mesoraco strikes out swinging. 1-0 Reds after 4.

[Reds Fanatic]

Morneau pops out to short.

[Tom Servo]

Leakey's roll is gone.

[Reds Fanatic]

Plouffe homers to right center. 1-1.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dozier grounds out to 3rd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Casilla flies out to left on the first pitch. 1-1 mid 5th.

[kaldaniels]

It's 2:14 and we are halfway done.

[Tom Servo]

Leake for leadoff.

[Reds Fanatic]

Leake lines a single to right.

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey pops out to short.

[WVRedsFan]

<sigh>

[Tom Servo]

damn

[Reds Fanatic]

Valdez grounds into a 5-4-3 DP on the first pitch. 1-1 after 5.

[Tom Servo]

This crazy Diamond is shining on.

[Reds Fanatic]

Through 5:

Leake 52 pitches
Diamond 53 pitches

[HokieRed]

Our 1-2 hitters are unbelievably bad. Time for change.

[WebScorpion]

Our 1-2 hitters are unbelievably bad. Time for change.Doesn't the #2 hitter have the only RBI of the day?

[Reds Fanatic]

Diamond strikes out swinging. 4 Ks for Leake.

[HokieRed]

Doesn't the #2 hitter have the only RBI of the day?

Together they're 1 for 6 in front of Votto. 1 for 9 yesterday.

[WVRedsFan]

Our 1-2 hitters are unbelievably bad. Time for change.

I would put Heisey either in the bottom of the order or preferably on the bench. Our top two hitters are OBP-ing at .300 and .237. And Heisey's .300 is soft.

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey is probably headed back to the bench after today as more than likely Stubbs will be back tomorrow.

[Reds Fanatic]

Revere singles to center.

[HokieRed]

Heisey is probably headed back to the bench after today as more than likely Stubbs will be back tomorrow.

Is that good news or bad news?

[Reds Fanatic]

Pitch out and Mesoraco nails Revere.

[Reds Fanatic]

Mastroianni grounds out to short. 1-1 mid 6th.

[mth123]

Is that good news or bad news?

Denard Span out of the line-up today....

Ok, middle of the order seeing this lefty for the 3rd time. Time to tee off.

[kaldaniels]

When Leake is on, I'd say he is my favorite starter to watch, due to how fast he works.

[HokieRed]

Denard Span out of the line-up today....

Ok, middle of the order seeing this lefty for the 3rd time. Time to tee off.

Are you hoping Span gets on the Reds' plane after the game?

[WVRedsFan]

When Leake is on, I'd say he is my favorite starter to watch, due to how fast he works.

Me too. Watching Bailey and Latos throw so many pitches is hard to take. Credit the opposition's hitters if you want.

[kaldaniels]

Votto takes the first pitch meatball.

WV is very pleased.

[reds44]

We have 3 hits and two of them are from 8-9. 1-7 all have been bad.

[Reds Fanatic]

Diamond has Votto totally fooled today. 6 Ks for Diamond

[mth123]

Are you hoping Span gets on the Reds' plane after the game?

Absolutely. They can have Stubbs and Ondrusek for him.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips grounds out to 3rd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce singles to right.

[Tom Servo]

:(

[mbgrayson]

Mark Berry???? WTH?

[Reds Fanatic]

What was Berry thinking? Ludwick doubles to left. He sends Bruce who was out by a mile.

[kaldaniels]

That ball was practically back in the infield as Bruce hit 3rd.

[reds44]

He was out by 30 feet.

[Tom Servo]

My dad was saying "send him" too, so Berry's not the only fool amongst us. ;)

[WVRedsFan]

So much for the conservative Berry

[corkedbat]

Stunningly stupid decision by Berry

[mth123]

That ball was practically back in the infield as Bruce hit 3rd.

Yep. I'm not a Mark Berry fan. He makes more outs than Drew Stubbs.

[Reds Fanatic]

That is one of the worst decisions I have seen by a 3rd base coach in a long time.

[HokieRed]

Sign of desperation?

[dougdirt]

Seriously, the cut off man had the ball 10 feet from the infield as Bruce touched 3rd....

[reds44]

Yep. I'm not a Mark Berry fan. He makes more outs than Drew Stubbs.
HEY HEY!

[mbgrayson]

After six innings, Reds 1, Twins 1.

Leake at 65 pitches, 43 strikes.
Diamond at 60 pitches, 47 strikes.

[Reds Fanatic]

Mauer singles to right.

[kaldaniels]

If there is no cutoff then you can hope for a poor throw, but always assume the cutoff guy is gonna make a clean throw.

[HokieRed]

Absolutely. They can have Stubbs and Ondrusek for him.

You can't trade Stubbs; I'm sending him to Houston for Wandy R.

[Tom Servo]

This could be the ballgame :(

[Reds Fanatic]

Trouble here. Willingham doubles to left. 2nd and 3rd with no outs.

[mth123]

You can't trade Stubbs; I'm sending him to Houston for Wandy R.

Did somebody in charge of the Astros get a lobotomy?

[Blitz Dorsey]

This will be one of the few times I've ever seen a third base coach lose the game. What a joke.

[corkedbat]

Too bad the twinks didn't have berry in the 3rd base box there

[HokieRed]

Did somebody in charge of the Astros get a lobotomy?

I"ll throw in Ondrusek.

[Reds Fanatic]

Good play by Phillips. Run scores. 2-1 Twins. Runner on 3rd.

[reds44]

This will be one of the few times I've ever seen a third base coach lose the game. What a joke.
No it won't.

[Tom Servo]

phew!

[WVRedsFan]

Great play by Brandon-Mes.

[Reds Fanatic]

What a play by Phillips! Throws the runner out at home after bare handing the ball!

[kaldaniels]

What a plate block too.

[Tom Servo]

Now score a run.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Wow

[Reds Fanatic]

Dozier flies out to center. 2-1 Twins mid 7th.

[corkedbat]

BP's glove kept us in this one

[mth123]

Great play by Brandon-Mes.

You bet. Phillips is as amazing in the field as Votto is at the plate. At least one jaw dropper every game.

[RedsfaninMT]

Good play by Phillips. Run scores. 2-1 Twins. Runner on 3rd.

Me thinks you understated that one a tad.

[mbgrayson]

BP's glove kept us in this one

He didn't use his glove....

[Crumbley]

Datdude is Superman.

[BCubb2003]

I'm convinced that Brandon Phillips will be an Ozzie Smith-type Hall of Famer.

[RedsfaninMT]

Me thinks you understated that one a tad.

Sorry- wrong play. Two very fine plays back-to-back.

[WebScorpion]

Great play by Brandon-Mes.Whoa! http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-shocked012.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) I love great defense! :beerme:

[WVRedsFan]

Now score a run.

We need at least 2 pronto. But with Diamond at 60 pitches through 6 and having our best hitter stymied, it's going to be tough.

[Kc61]

Just wondering. Did Berry really send Bruce home on the Ludwick hit? On my TV, Bruce was out by half the distance of the baseline.

I haven't been on the thread much today.

My TV must have transmission problems or something. He couldn't have sent the runner there, Nah.

[mth123]

Just wondering. Did Berry really send Bruce home on the Ludwick hit? On my TV, Bruce was out by half the distance of the baseline.

I haven't been on the thread much today.

My TV must have transmission problems or something. He couldn't have sent the runner there, Nah.

Yep. He clearly waved him in.

[mth123]

Prediction: Frazier-Mes will make some rookie magic against this lefty.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier hit it hard but lines out to short.

[WVRedsFan]

Prediction: Frazier-Mes will make some rookie magic against this lefty.

0-1

[Reds Fanatic]

Mesoraco singles to center. His 2nd hit today.

[Tom Servo]

Mes and Ludwick are the only two who have looked good against Diamond today.

[mth123]

0-1

1 guy crushed it. The other got a hit.

[kaldaniels]

Classic.

[Reds Fanatic]

Wow. Mesoraco steals 2nd.

[Reds Fanatic]

The Twins were so shocked they did not even cover 2nd.

[Tom Servo]

Just call him Wheels

[Reds Fanatic]

Broken bat ground out to 3rd by Leake. Up to Heisey now.

[WVRedsFan]

1 guy crushed it. The other got a hit.

.500. Not bad. I was just kidding you.

[kaldaniels]

Here's Heisey's chance to redeem himself in the eyes of WV.

[WVRedsFan]

Here's Heisey's chance to redeem himself in the eyes of WV.

It will take a lot more than that.

[Kc61]

No call for Rolen to have hit for Leake there?

[Tom Servo]

Hi-C is brutal in the leadoff spot.

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey flies out to right. He is now 0 for 4 on 6 pitches. 2-1 Twins after 7.

[Kc61]

Hi-C is brutal in the leadoff spot.

Take out the words "in the leadoff spot".

[WVRedsFan]

Hi-C is brutal in the leadoff spot.

He's brutal everywhere but on the bench and pinch hitting.

[Tom Servo]

Take out the words "in the leadoff spot".
I think he's fine as a fourth outfielder batting down in the lineup, but leading off and playing CF...yeesh.

[HokieRed]

I think there is a very good chance Cody Puckett is better than Heisey right now.

[Tom Servo]

A rare Norris Hopper reference.

[HokieRed]

I think he's fine as a fourth outfielder batting down in the lineup, but leading off and playing CF...yeesh.

I think he is fast becoming, at best, the 5th outfielder and somebody who would be struggling for the 25th spot on the roster on a team capable of winning the number of games we'd like the Reds to win. (circa 90)

[WVRedsFan]

Unless The Reds can get something going and get rid of this pitcher, the Reds will be 7-5 in their last 12 after winning 6 in a row.

[Reds Fanatic]

Casilla grounds out to 1st.

[WVRedsFan]

I think he is fast becoming, at best, the 5th outfielder and somebody who would be struggling for the 25th spot on the roster on a team capable of winning the number of games we'd like the Reds to win. (circa 90)

You and I agree.

[Reds Fanatic]

Diamond strikes out looking. 5 Ks for Leake.

[kaldaniels]

Revere is a big out here.

[HokieRed]

You and I agree.

With Ludwick's offense turning upward and Stubbs back, I don't see a lot of PT for Heisey from here on out.

[WVRedsFan]

With Ludwick's offense turning upward and Stubbs back, I don't see a lot of PT for Heisey from here on out.

Never underestimate Dusty's love for Heisey.

[mbgrayson]

He's brutal everywhere but on the bench and pinch hitting.

Chris Heisey: .268/.305/.368 for an OPS of .673.

Drew Stubbs: .235/.300/.373 for an OPS of .673.

Yep. Stubbs is WAY better than Heisey...

[Reds Fanatic]

Revere grounds out to short. 2-1 Twins mid 8th.

[kaldaniels]

I had a go round with someone this week who
said that Heisey and Stubbs are equal. I say despite Stubb's flaws, I still give Drew the advantage.

[WVRedsFan]

Chris Heisey: .268/.305/.368 for an OPS of .673.

Drew Stubbs: .235/.300/.373 for an OPS of .673.

Yep. Stubbs is WAY better than Heisey...

Never said that.

[HokieRed]

Chris Heisey: .268/.305/.368 for an OPS of .673.

Drew Stubbs: .235/.300/.373 for an OPS of .673.

Yep. Stubbs is WAY better than Heisey...

Nobody said he is way better. Personally I'd like to see neither of them on the opening day roster for 2013.

[Reds Fanatic]

Updates from the division Tigers still up 2-0 on the Pirates in the 5th with Verlander pitching. Cardinals up 5-2 on the Royals in the 2nd.

[kaldaniels]

Cowboy lobbying for his Reds HOF induction.

[Reds Fanatic]

Infield hit for Valdez.

[Tom Servo]

Valdez is the greatest man that ever lived.

[WVRedsFan]

Nobody said he is way better. Personally I'd like to see neither of them on the opening day roster for 2013.

If I had a voice I'd keep Stubbs for his speed and defense as a fourth outfielder and bring another bat in to play center.

[kaldaniels]

Get Chapman warm.

[Kc61]

Heisey has now had an extended chance. He has walked seven times in 190 at bats. He swings at virtually everything.

I'm sure Chris is a fine fellow, he hustles, he tries. But as a Reds fan I think Chris might be better off with a fresh start someplace else.

[Tom Servo]

Votto! :jump:

[fearofpopvol1]

VOTTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto homers to left!!!!!! 3-2 Reds!

[WVRedsFan]

Unbelievable

[kaldaniels]

Get Chapman warm.

See.

[mbgrayson]

Get Chapman warm.
This!

[corkedbat]

Worth every cent

[mth123]

Valdez is the greatest man that ever lived.

Votto is.

[WebScorpion]

JOEY!!!!
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy014.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[Tom Servo]

Votto is.
Votto learned from the best. :D

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips can't check his swing and strikes out swinging. 7 Ks for Diamond

[Kc61]

Ninth inning coming up. Leake? Aroldis? Marshall?

[fearofpopvol1]

I think I would let Leake pitch honestly.

[WVRedsFan]

Add cleanup change to my list. I'd rather see Frazier there.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce fouls out to the catcher.

[kaldaniels]

Diamond with the 8 IP complete game hopefully.

[Tom Servo]

Add cleanup change to my list. I'd rather see Frazier there.
I'd rather see Ludwick.

[mth123]

Votto learned from the best. :D

Well, Votto probably never will get a win off the mound. Valdez has that on him.

[Reds Fanatic]

Leake is only at 86 pitches.

[WVRedsFan]

I think I would let Leake pitch honestly.

Me too. Especially how he's pitched lately. And hoe Chapman hasnt

[Reds Fanatic]

Diamond with the 8 IP complete game hopefully.

Could be a rare double complete game today.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ludwick grounds out to short. 3-2 Reds after 8.

[Kc61]

I guess I would go to Chapman.

[mth123]

This Dozier kid has had quite a game in the field.

[WebScorpion]

I think I would let Leake pitch honestly.Yes, I'd give him a shot at wrapping it up himself. He deserves the CG. :thumbup:

[Reds Fanatic]

Mastroianni, Mauer and Willingham due up.

[corkedbat]

If I were Walt, I'd do everything I could to keep Willingham from getting on the Twins plane. I'm not though.

[Kc61]

Me too. Especially how he's pitched lately. And hoe Chapman hasnt

I'd go to the closer. He's rested. This is his job. Leake can sometimes fall off a cliff when he goes too deep.

[Reds Fanatic]

I have a feeling Chapman will be in to face Mauer.

[Reds Fanatic]

Chapman in to pitch.

[WVRedsFan]

I'd go to the closer. He's rested. This is his job. Leake can sometimes fall off a cliff when he goes too deep.

I agree with that, but after the last week, I'm afraid of Chapman.

[Kc61]

I agree with that, but after the last week, I'm afraid of Chapman.

No fear. Chapman is in.

[Tom Servo]

Missile deployed.

[corkedbat]

I'd even make try to make a deal for Josh before he hits here in the ninth. :D

[Reds Fanatic]

Great start by Leake: 8IP, 5H, 2ER, 0BB, 5K

[kaldaniels]

Big outing for Aroldis.

[mth123]

Chapman keeps Span and Morneau on the bench. Probably makes the most sense.

[Kc61]

Only thing is, I'd get a righty, Arredondo, up in the pen. Just in case.

[WVRedsFan]

K

[mbgrayson]

I like that 1st batter K!

[Reds Fanatic]

Mastroianni strikes out swinging. 99 MPH. 1 out.

[kaldaniels]

One offspeed pitch? Please? For me?

[Kc61]

You never know with a closer. Anything can happen.

But this is still Chapman.

[mth123]

Only thing is, I'd get a righty, Arredondo, up in the pen. Just in case.

That would bring Span and Morneau off the bench. I'd be getting Marshall loose.

[kaldaniels]

One offspeed pitch? Please? For me?

Thanks.

[fearofpopvol1]

One offspeed pitch? Please? For me?

you got it. slider strike.

[Reds Fanatic]

Follows that with 102 MPH heat.

[Kc61]

That would bring Span and Morneau off the bench. I'd be getting Marshall loose.

Assuming Aroldis can take care of the lefties. Would get a righty up to back him up.

Warm em all up, who cares.

[HokieRed]

Heisey has now had an extended chance. He has walked seven times in 190 at bats. He swings at virtually everything.

I'm sure Chris is a fine fellow, he hustles, he tries. But as a Reds fan I think Chris might be better off with a fresh start someplace else.

Being really good next year starts with not having either Heisey or Stubbs in the lineup, IMHO.

[kaldaniels]

News flash. Mourneau is playing.

[WebScorpion]

One offspeed pitch? Please? For me?There you go! ;)

[mth123]

News flash. Mourneau is playing.

Doh!!!

[Kc61]

Being really good next year starts with not having either Heisey or Stubbs in the lineup, IMHO.

Stubbs is more complicated because of his defense. I'd like to see how he does in the second half of this season.

Heisey is not complicated.

[Reds Fanatic]

He needs to throw the slider again to put Mauer away.

[Reds Fanatic]

He threw it but outside. 2-2 count

[fearofpopvol1]

Stubbs is more complicated because of his defense. I'd like to see how he does in the second half of this season.

Heisey is not complicated.

According to UZR, Stubbs for his career has been a mostly average defender or just a tick above average. He's definitely nothing special in CF.

[HokieRed]

Stubbs is more complicated because of his defense. I'd like to see how he does in the second half of this season.

Heisey is not complicated.

I'd shoot for major improvements in both positions. Nothing less.

[Reds Fanatic]

Full count

[fearofpopvol1]

Mauer is giving Chapman a heck of an at bat.

[Reds Fanatic]

Mauer doubles off the wall in left.

[Tom Servo]

damn mauer

[reds44]

Mauer can hit.

[Kc61]

According to UZR, Stubbs for his career has been a mostly average defender or just a tick above average. He's definitely nothing special in CF.

I think Stubbs is improving defensively and has a lot of talent. I'm not saying he must stay, just that I'd be more patient.

Heisey is in a different tier.

[Reds Fanatic]

Span running for Mauer