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reds44
06-28-2012, 06:37 PM
Cozart 6, Stubbs 8, Votto 3, Phillips 4, Bruce 9, Rolen 5, Frazier 7, Hanigan 2, Cueto RHP

mdccclxix
06-28-2012, 06:48 PM
Good to see BP back in action right away. Need this one with Cueto on the mound to get going. Works out well, he may get 3 starts this road trip.

redsfaninbsg
06-28-2012, 08:00 PM
Good to see BP back in action right away. Need this one with Cueto on the mound to get going. Works out well, he may get 3 starts this road trip.

Cueto could start four of the Reds next 12 games.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 10:27 PM
Giants lineup:

Blanco RF
Theriot 2B
Cabrera LF
Posey C
Pagan CF
Sandoval 3B
Belt 1B
Crawford SS
Bumgarner P

reds44
06-28-2012, 10:28 PM
Phillips scratched.

reds44
06-28-2012, 10:30 PM
Hahahahahahaha Rolen is hitting cleanup.

Cozart
Stubbs
Votto
Rolen
Bruce
Frazier
Cairo
Hanigan

Redsfan320
06-28-2012, 10:43 PM
2 guys in our lineup tonight hitting under .200... including one hitting cleanup.

320

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 10:51 PM
They are not officially saying Phillips has a concussion but his symptoms sound like a concussion.

DGullett35
06-28-2012, 10:52 PM
Phillips kills LH pitching. Hopefully hes back tomm. Im kind of surprised Ludwick isn't playing actually. Been swinging the bat good lately, but hes better against righties right?

DGullett35
06-28-2012, 10:55 PM
Nevermind. Ludwick a career 1-16 against Bumgardner

Crumbley
06-28-2012, 10:56 PM
They are not officially saying Phillips has a concussion but his symptoms sound like a concussion.

Immediately what I thought when he had to come out yesterday.

reds44
06-28-2012, 11:11 PM
RT @LanceMcAlister: Dusty says rolen over Frazier at 4 because Rolen knows how deal w/ teams walking votto.

I think I have a concussion.

DGullett35
06-28-2012, 11:18 PM
RT @LanceMcAlister: Dusty says rolen over Frazier at 4 because Rolen knows how deal w/ teams walking votto.

I think I have a concussion.

That makes no sense because the only way to deal with it is to drive Votto in, and I think frazier would know how to deal with that more so than Rolen at this point.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:19 PM
Cozart strikes out swinging.

Cedric
06-28-2012, 11:20 PM
Cozart hates to walk. Pretty apparent.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:21 PM
4 pitch walk to Stubbs.

DGullett35
06-28-2012, 11:22 PM
When Ludwick gets back in the lineup why not let him hit 4th and put BP up in the leadoff spot. Cozart needs to go back to the 2 hole. The only thing that would suck about that tho is that Stubbs would get pushed down and would likely fall into a slump because Votto wont be behind him

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:22 PM
Votto grounds out to 3rd. Stubbs to 2nd.

DGullett35
06-28-2012, 11:22 PM
Stubbs with 3 walks in his 3 games back. Is this a sign of things to come?

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:23 PM
Stubbs easily steals 3rd. They did not even look at him.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:24 PM
Rolen grounds out to 3rd. 0-0 mid 1st.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:27 PM
Nice back handed catch by Rolen.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:29 PM
Theriot pops out to 2nd. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:32 PM
Cabrera walks on a 3-2 pitch

Plus Plus
06-28-2012, 11:32 PM
Cabrera walks on a 3-2 pitch

...right down the middle.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:33 PM
Posey singles to right. 1st and 2nd

Kc61
06-28-2012, 11:33 PM
The Giants announcers are already annoying me and it's the first inning of a four game set. They now said that the pitch to Cabrera was too high, but they said it six times. OK guys, got it, it was ball four, too high.

I'm sitting here still trying to figure out the answer to one question: why is Cozart still batting leadoff for the Reds? I just can't figure that one out.

Big Klu
06-28-2012, 11:34 PM
When Ludwick gets back in the lineup why not let him hit 4th and put BP up in the leadoff spot. Cozart needs to go back to the 2 hole. The only thing that would suck about that tho is that Stubbs would get pushed down and would likely fall into a slump because Votto wont be behind him

I would rather have Stubbs in the #2 spot than Cozart.

Kc61
06-28-2012, 11:35 PM
I would rather have Stubbs in the #2 spot than Cozart.

It's simple.

Phillips, Stubbs, Votto, Rolen/Ludwick/Frazier, Bruce, Rolen/Ludwick/Frazier, Cozart, catcher, pitcher.

Or, switch Cozart and the catcher.

WVRedsFan
06-28-2012, 11:36 PM
Cueto at 22 pitches already...

WVRedsFan
06-28-2012, 11:36 PM
Great goodness

wheels
06-28-2012, 11:37 PM
Horrifyingly ugly sequence of events.

Plus Plus
06-28-2012, 11:37 PM
So the pitch down the middle that was called ball four leads to two runs for the Giants.

Cedric
06-28-2012, 11:37 PM
Probably enough to beat them tonight.

Kc61
06-28-2012, 11:37 PM
Giants get a single, two runs scored, man thrown out at third.

I have real problems with this west coast trip. I hope I am so wrong.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:37 PM
Wow. What a mess. Pagan singles to right. The throw gets away at the plate which allows another run to score. Cueto gets the throw at the plate and thows Pagan out at 3rd. Welcome to the west coast. 2-0 Giants.

mdccclxix
06-28-2012, 11:37 PM
Oh god, not a **** show, please. You can't let the crowd get into this.

reds44
06-28-2012, 11:38 PM
I'm not sure we'll score 2 tonight.

And Cairo's range at 2nd is horrifying.

wheels
06-28-2012, 11:38 PM
Inauspicious beginning.

Yow. I hate the west coast.

Cedric
06-28-2012, 11:39 PM
I hate the West Coast and CB Bucknor.

Kc61
06-28-2012, 11:39 PM
I'm not sure we'll score 2 tonight.

And Cairo's range at 2nd is horrifying.

Yeah, I was wondering whether Phillips would have had that grounder. It would have been close.

Nah, just saw the replay. It was a base hit all the way.

Plus Plus
06-28-2012, 11:39 PM
That pitch that would have struck out Cabrera has been called a strike every time except for that single pitch.

I hate harping on it over and over, but it just amazes me.

reds44
06-28-2012, 11:39 PM
Yeah, I was wondering whether Phillips would have had that grounder. It would have been close.
Yeah, I'm not saying Cairo should have got to that but it wouldn't have surprised me if BP would have knocked it down at least.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:40 PM
Bruce grounds out to 2nd.

Kc61
06-28-2012, 11:40 PM
Yeah, I'm not saying Cairo should have got to that but it wouldn't have surprised me if BP would have knocked it down at least.

Replay looked like a clean base hit.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:41 PM
Yes I did not realize it was CB Bucknor behind the plate until now. Any bad call makes total sense now.

Frazier strikes out.

Cedric
06-28-2012, 11:41 PM
I'm going to bed. Cb Bucknor is not good for my health.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:43 PM
Cairo grounds out to short. 2-0 Giants mid 2nd.

PuffyPig
06-28-2012, 11:44 PM
Replay looked like a clean base hit.

It looked like a clean hit because Cairo is a statute out there.

My grandma could have gotten to that ball.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:45 PM
Sandoval lines out to left.

WVRedsFan
06-28-2012, 11:46 PM
This has all the makings of a disaster. Cueto off, the freak play at the plate, the non-called strike, Cairo in the lineup, and Votto in a slump. Wow!

BCubb2003
06-28-2012, 11:47 PM
It looked like a clean hit because Cairo is a statute out there.

A statute of limitations.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:47 PM
Belt strikes out swinging.

mdccclxix
06-28-2012, 11:48 PM
This has all the makings of a disaster. Cueto off, the freak play at the plate, the non-called strike, Cairo in the lineup, and Votto in a slump. Wow!

There are 7 other guys that could pick us up. :thumbup:

mdccclxix
06-28-2012, 11:48 PM
This 2 out garbage can come to an end please, thank you.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:49 PM
Crawford flies out to left. 2-0 Giants after 2.

mdccclxix
06-28-2012, 11:50 PM
NBA draft is good commercial break material.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:52 PM
Hanigan grounds out to short.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:53 PM
Cueto bunts back to the pitcher. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:54 PM
First time through the Reds lineup tongiht: 6 ground outs, 2 strikes outs and a walk

WVRedsFan
06-28-2012, 11:54 PM
Anemic.

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:54 PM
Cozart grounds out. 2-0 Giants mid 3rd.

reds44
06-28-2012, 11:55 PM
Continuing to bat Cozart leadoff is an excellent idea.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-28-2012, 11:56 PM
Have giants ever thrown 4 straight shutouts?

Reds Fanatic
06-28-2012, 11:57 PM
Bumgarner flies out to right.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:00 AM
Blanco flies out to center.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:01 AM
Theriot grounds out to 2nd. 2-0 Giants after 3.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:05 AM
Stubbs walks for the 2nd time tonight.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2012, 12:06 AM
Unreal

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:06 AM
Stubbs gets picked off at 1st. 1-3-6.

Kc61
06-29-2012, 12:07 AM
Stubbs gets picked off at 1st.

I think Stubbs was safe.

Why do I think the umps are constantly hosing the Reds on calls every single day.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2012, 12:08 AM
I think Stubbs was safe.

Why do I think the umps are constantly hosing the Reds on calls every single day.

He was but the ball beat him by a mile.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:08 AM
Votto strikes out swinging. 3 Ks for Bumgarner.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2012, 12:09 AM
U-G-L-Y

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:09 AM
Rolen flies out to the right on the first pitch. First ball out of the infield tonight for the Reds. Being no-hit through 4. 2-0 Giants.

HotCorner
06-29-2012, 12:10 AM
On the positive this game will be over close to midnight for us EST'ers. ;)

Kc61
06-29-2012, 12:11 AM
Rolen flies out to the right on the first pitch. First ball out of the infield tonight for the Reds. Being no-hit through 4. 2-0 Giants.

I hope the Giants don't get a no-hitter tonight. They seem to have one going so far.

I thought that was one of those Reds at bats (by Rolen) when the batter on the road aims for the GABP right field fence and comes up 30 feet short of the actual fence.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:12 AM
Cabrera lines a single to center.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:16 AM
Nice. Cueto picks off Cabrera.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:16 AM
Posey walks.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:17 AM
It must be pick off night. Too bad it's not "Reds hit night" or "Cueto pitches like an ace night"

:)

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:19 AM
Broken bat fly out to center by Pagan.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:20 AM
A double pick off inning. Cueto gets another. 2-0 Giants after 4.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2012, 12:21 AM
Get a/some hit(s)

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:21 AM
Get a/some hit(s)

And runs...

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 12:22 AM
It must be pick off night. Too bad it's not "Reds hit night" or "Cueto pitches like an ace night"

:)

still looking pretty much ace like to me - little ruffled at first but he's settled down very nicely

Kc61
06-29-2012, 12:22 AM
And runs...

Kind of greedy, there, WV.

Big Klu
06-29-2012, 12:22 AM
A double pick off inning. Cueto gets another. 2-0 Giants after 4.

What makes that more impressive is that Posey looked like he had no intention of going.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:23 AM
Kind of greedy, there, WV.

Yes. Pirates won. They won't go away.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:24 AM
Bruce strikes out looking. 4 Ks for Bumgarner.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:25 AM
Frazier strikes out swinging.

Big Klu
06-29-2012, 12:25 AM
Yes. Pirates won. They won't go away.

I've been told to ignore the Pirates.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 12:25 AM
Baumgarner projects no more force than if he was out in the backyard playing toss with his kid

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:26 AM
I've been told to ignore the Pirates.

How can you ignore someone right on your tail?

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-29-2012, 12:26 AM
Reds are in danger of being no-hit. Nothing remotely close to a hit so far. And CB Buckner is unprofessional enough to get caught up in the excitement, meaning ridiculous strike calls.

Kc61
06-29-2012, 12:27 AM
Right now the main objective should be to break up this no hitter. Here's what I'd do.

I would put Ludwick in for Cairo after this at bat. Let Ludwick play second, who cares. He can hit lefties this year.

I would pinch hit for the pitcher every time., Mesoraco. Wilson Valdez (bunt). I'd even consider giving Phillips a shot, he can hit lefties even when dizzy.

I wouldn't let this guy get a no hitter under any circumstances.

reds44
06-29-2012, 12:27 AM
Give me playing in a park that gives up a billion homers over playing in these parks they build out west any day.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:27 AM
Cairo pops out to short. Still being no-hit. 2-0 Giants.

Plus Plus
06-29-2012, 12:27 AM
Man, Cairo looks older every time I see him.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:28 AM
Can Valdez play second?

Kc61
06-29-2012, 12:28 AM
Man, Cairo looks older every time I see him.

Cairo has been a good player for the Reds but the two year contract was a mistake and he should be replaced at the all star break. He is giving them nothing this year.

reds44
06-29-2012, 12:28 AM
Willie Harris > Miguel Cairo.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 12:28 AM
Give me playing in a park that gives up a billion homers over playing in these parks they build out west any day.

any park would contain what the Reds aren't hitting tonight

Big Klu
06-29-2012, 12:28 AM
Baumgarner projects no more force than if he was out in the backyard playing toss with his kid

He's only 22. I doubt his kid could catch him.

kaldaniels
06-29-2012, 12:28 AM
Right now the main objective should be to break up this no hitter. Here's what I'd do.

I would put Ludwick in for Cairo after this at bat. Let Ludwick play second, who cares. He can hit lefties this year.

I would pinch hit for the pitcher every time., Mesoraco. Wilson Valdez (bunt). I'd even consider giving Phillips a shot, he can hit lefties even when dizzy.

I wouldn't let this guy get a no hitter under any circumstances.

Down 2-0 your main objective is to win the game.

I hope your post was satire...

Brutus
06-29-2012, 12:30 AM
It's feeling like a no-hitter kind of night here in San Fran this evening.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:30 AM
Sandoval grounds out to 2nd.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 12:31 AM
He's only 22. I doubt his kid could catch him.

touche

Kc61
06-29-2012, 12:31 AM
Down 2-0 your main objective is to win the game.

I hope your post was satire...

Of course it was a joke.

But here's something I would do in reality. I would put Ludwick in LF. I would move Frazier to second base. I would get Cairo out of the game.

cbowen2112
06-29-2012, 12:33 AM
Madison Bumgarner is throwing a no hitter.

The reds have no hits!

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:33 AM
Belt lines a single to center.

Big Klu
06-29-2012, 12:33 AM
How can you ignore someone right on your tail?

I agree with you. But I was rebuked right here on RedsZone for stating that it is hubris to casually dismiss the Pirates.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:34 AM
Nohitternohitternohitternohitternohitternohitterno hitternohitternohitter

See if that works :)

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:35 AM
Crawford walks. 1st and 2nd.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:35 AM
Cueto is losing his cool. Not good.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 12:36 AM
It won't be the strength of the Pirate team but the holes in the Reds team if the Pirates win this year

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:38 AM
It won't be the strength of the Pirate team but the holes in the Reds team if the Pirates win this year

:thumbup:

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:38 AM
Bumgarner strikes out on a foul bunt 3rd strike. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:39 AM
Blanco hit by the pitch. Bases loaded.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:39 AM
Man, is Cueto off tonight.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 12:39 AM
Cueto making the 5th interesting although I'd rather Melky not hit anyway

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 12:40 AM
could be the ballgame right here with Theriot

Kc61
06-29-2012, 12:41 AM
Man, is Cueto off tonight.

He could give up one run or ten runs. Won't matter if the Reds don't get any hits or runs.

I'm worried about this road trip because the Reds are so dependent on the long ball to score runs. They might get some long ones in LA, but SF and SD are tough.

If you haven't heard, I'm not thrilled with the Reds' style of offense this year. It's a new thought I wanted to mention on the game thread tonight.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:41 AM
Theriot grounds into a 6-4 FC. 2-0 Giants after 5.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 12:42 AM
It's a new thought I wanted to mention on the game thread tonight.

Lmao. LOL. LoL. ROFL.

cbowen2112
06-29-2012, 12:43 AM
Let's score some runs!

Kc61
06-29-2012, 12:43 AM
Lmao. LOL. LoL. ROFL.

What's Lmao and ROFL?

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 12:43 AM
It's a new idea? Really? You're cracking me up KC

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:44 AM
A hit finally. Hanigan singles to center.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:44 AM
He could give up one run or ten runs. Won't matter if the Reds don't get any hits or runs.

I'm worried about this road trip because the Reds are so dependent on the long ball to score runs. They might get some long ones in LA, but SF and SD are tough.

If you haven't heard, I'm not thrilled with the Reds' style of offense this year. It's a new thought I wanted to mention on the game thread tonight.

Me, too. It's common knowledge that the Reds depend on the long ball to win. Now, if we don't connect, we may lose the majority of the games. Btw, my no hit post worked.

cbowen2112
06-29-2012, 12:44 AM
*takes a bow*

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 12:44 AM
Hanigan breaks it up!

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:44 AM
Good bunt by Cueto. Runner to 2nd.

kaldaniels
06-29-2012, 12:44 AM
I bet that (the hit) disappointed some of the drum beaters on here.

Kc61
06-29-2012, 12:44 AM
It's a new idea? Really? You're cracking me up KC

These are the jokes, people, I'm trying my best to keep it light.

Hanigan breaks up the no-hitter. Cueto bunts. Giants announcers say nice job all the way around after the bunt.

reds44
06-29-2012, 12:44 AM
That guy hitting leadoff would be kewl.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 12:45 AM
These are the jokes, people, I'm trying my best to keep it light.

Hanigan breaks up the no-hitter. Cueto bunts. Giants announcers say nice job all the way around after the bunt.

I know - and I'm seriously laughing and enjoying the banter!

cbowen2112
06-29-2012, 12:45 AM
Score some runs Red Legs!!!

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:46 AM
Cozart grounds out to short. 2 outs.

Kc61
06-29-2012, 12:46 AM
I know - and I'm seriously laughing and enjoying the banter!

Until the Hanigan hit, the Reds were providing the comic relief.

Wow, Cozart cannot get a hit. He is really struggling out there.

Two out.

cbowen2112
06-29-2012, 12:46 AM
Stubbs needs to repeat what he did to Axford. Speaking of the long ball. Lol

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2012, 12:46 AM
Up to Stubbs

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:46 AM
Cozart needs some time on the pine.

reds44
06-29-2012, 12:47 AM
Cozart needs some time on the pine.
Not really. He's going through a slump. He just needs to not be batting leadoff.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2012, 12:47 AM
Stubbs trying to do too much on that first swing.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 12:47 AM
I can't understand how a guy who just appears to toss the ball can get so much on it...I am impressed with Bum every time I see him - I just when its against the Reds

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:47 AM
Not really. He's going through a slump. He just needs to not be batting leadoff.

That too.

cbowen2112
06-29-2012, 12:47 AM
By the look of Bumgarner's delivery. He is very deceptive. Not good for us. Keep fouling them off boys!

Kc61
06-29-2012, 12:47 AM
Cozart needs some time on the pine.

Or just move him down in the lineup to seventh or eighth.

Cozart is probably aware of the OBP numbers and is pressing. Just take the pressure off him.

Have to say, I'm kind of shocked that Walt doesn't just tell Dusty to get the kid out of the lead off spot already. It's so completely obvious. Even I've figured this one out.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 12:48 AM
Yeah, we need his glove but not his bat in the leadoff spot - put him 7th or 8th til he starts to come around

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2012, 12:48 AM
C'mon Drew

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:48 AM
Or just move him down in the lineup to seventh or eighth.

Cozart is probably aware of the OBP numbers and is pressing. Just take the pressure off him.

Have to say, I'm kind of shocked that Walt doesn't just tell Dusty to get the kid out of the lead off spot already. It's so completely obvious. Even I've figured this one out.

I doubt anyone tells Dusty anything. I think they consider him a legend.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:49 AM
Stubbs strikes out looking. 6 Ks for Bumgarner. 2-0 Giants mid 6th.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 12:50 AM
This could be a long road trip.

cbowen2112
06-29-2012, 12:50 AM
That low strike would be nice to get on Cueto's end. This ump. Ugh!

reds44
06-29-2012, 12:51 AM
I doubt anyone tells Dusty anything. I think they consider him a legend.
We're in first place, I'm told he's doing a great job.

In all seriousness though, there's a reason Dusty is managing on the last year of his contract right now. That doesn't happen with somebody you're happy with.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 12:51 AM
That low strike would be nice to get on Cueto's end. This ump. Ugh!

Ain't that the truth. He's been squeezed low all night while Madison's getting that call

WMR
06-29-2012, 12:51 AM
I wonder if they teach you to aim for a homer in every AB at the Jay Bruce baseball camp? ;)

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:52 AM
Bum garner with 74 pitches through six. Woe is us. I'd go to bed, but I'm a sucker for punishment.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:52 AM
Cabrera reaches on a ball that Cairo boots. We are spoiled watching Phillips every day. He would have made that play easily.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:53 AM
We're in first place, I'm told he's doing a great job.

In all seriousness though, there's a reason Dusty is managing on the last year of his contract right now. That doesn't happen with somebody you're happy with.

I thought the same thing. I'm sure guys like Walt can see what fans see.

WMR
06-29-2012, 12:53 AM
Cairo....... B. Phil makes that play in his sleep.

reds44
06-29-2012, 12:53 AM
Seriously, no more Cairo.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:53 AM
Cairo....... B. Phil makes that play in his sleep.

Can Valdez play second?

Big Klu
06-29-2012, 12:53 AM
Stubbs strikes out looking. 6 Ks for Bumgarner. 2-0 Giants mid 6th.


That low strike would be nice to get on Cueto's end. This ump. Ugh!

Normally I strongly dislike called third strikes by Reds hitters. But I can't give Stubbs any flak for that one.

reds44
06-29-2012, 12:55 AM
Can Valdez play second?
He can play SS and CF, I'm sure he can.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:55 AM
6-4-3 DP. Good pick by Votto there.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 12:56 AM
They picked up Cairo on that DP

WMR
06-29-2012, 12:56 AM
Good job Votto, Cairo almost screwed that DP up.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:56 AM
He can play SS and CF, I'm sure he can.

Then why is he in the game? DustyBall at its best.

Big Klu
06-29-2012, 12:58 AM
Can Valdez play second?

Yes. I'm surprised he isn't in the starting lineup tonight. Jim Kelch mentioned that he was asked (I assume by Giants announcer Mike Krukow) who would play 2B if BP couldn't go, and he told him it would be Valdez.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:58 AM
Pagan walks.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 12:59 AM
Cueto simply is not feeling it tonight and still only one earned run through 6.2. If we only had an offense.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2012, 12:59 AM
Reds really need to make some hay in the 7th

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 12:59 AM
Yes. I'm surprised he isn't in the starting lineup tonight. Jim Kelch mentioned that he was asked (I assume by Giants announcer Mike Krukow) who would play 2B if BP couldn't go, and he told him it would be Valdez.

The funny thing is Welsh speculated that Cairo was chosen because he is a better hitter. I am not sure how they figure that as Cairo is now batting .130 this year.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:03 AM
I imagine this is Cueto's last inning. Over 100 pitches.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-29-2012, 01:03 AM
We're in first place, I'm told he's doing a great job.

In all seriousness though, there's a reason Dusty is managing on the last year of his contract right now. That doesn't happen with somebody you're happy with.

Well then Walt should be general managing on the last year of his contract too, because he hasn't exactly given the manager much in the way to work with on the bench, in left field, at third base or, frankly, at shortstop.

What's Dusty supposed to do, put Dan Uggla at second when Phillips is out? Walt Jocketty has given Dusty a pile of garbage on the bench and that is indefensible.

reds44
06-29-2012, 01:04 AM
Well then Walt should be general managing on the last year of his contract too, because he hasn't exactly given the manager much in the way to work with on the bench, in left field, at third base or, frankly, at shortstop.

What's Dusty supposed to do, put Dan Uggla at second when Phillips is out? Walt Jocketty has given Dusty a pile of garbage on the bench and that is indefensible.
So we have a bad manager and a bad GM and we're in first place? That equation doesn't add up.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-29-2012, 01:05 AM
Cueto simply is not feeling it tonight and still only one earned run through 6.2. If we only had an offense.

Or if only that ground ball to Pagan didn't find the hole in the first. We'd be talking a 0-0 game right now. As it is, 2-0 tonight feels like 8-0 against other teams in other parks.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 01:05 AM
Ugh. Frazier misjudges a line drive gets over his head. 3-0 Giants a gift run.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2012, 01:05 AM
We knew it was bound to happen at some point.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:05 AM
Frazier got ate up - bad break and then he couldn;t get back in time

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:05 AM
Ludwick in left gets that. That's sad for Cueto.

WMR
06-29-2012, 01:06 AM
:facepalm:

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:06 AM
Ludwick in left gets that. That's sad for Cueto.

I agree

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2012, 01:06 AM
I don't blame Frazier, he's a 3B not a LF

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:06 AM
Oh, jeez. Sam is up. And Johnny flirted with disaster all night. The effort was supreme. That third run might be fatal

reds44
06-29-2012, 01:06 AM
That's brutal.

Big Klu
06-29-2012, 01:06 AM
The funny thing is Welsh speculated that Cairo was chosen because he is a better hitter. I am not sure how they figure that as Cairo is now batting .130 this year.

Historically, Cairo is a better offensive player than.Valdez. But I'm afraid that Miguel is close to the end of the line. (I hate to say that, because I appreciate what he's done for the Reds the last two years. I can only think that Dusty is giving him a last chance to get a few ABs to prove otherwise.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:07 AM
Always break back, always break back

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 01:07 AM
The sad thing is with our regular defense this game could be scoreless right now.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:08 AM
The sad thing is with our regular defense this game could be scoreless right now.

yes it could. Despite being off a bit Cueto has pitched very well

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 01:08 AM
Belt strikes out swinging. 3-0 Giants after 6.

reds44
06-29-2012, 01:08 AM
Always break back, always break back
Yep, learn that in little league. Easier to come in than go back.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-29-2012, 01:08 AM
This team has 71-year-old Miguel Cairo playing second base, a third baseman playing left field, another third baseman who's batting .200 for the past two seasons and no protection whatsoever for its best hitter. If this team isn't in third place at the All-Star break, it'll be nothing short of a miracle.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:09 AM
This team has 71-year-old Miguel Cairo playing second base, a third baseman playing left field, a third baseman who's batting .200 for the past two seasons and no protection whatsoever for its best hitter. If this team isn't in third place at the All-Star break, it'll be nothing short of a miracle.

Look for it after this west coast trip

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:10 AM
yes it could. Despite being off a bit Cueto has pitched very well
Absolutely. That's the problem with the roster. A couple of cogs missing and things go to pot. And do course stupid managerial decisions like Cairo at second, Cozart at lead off, and Frazier in left. Ludwick in left and Frazier at third as well as Vadez at second made more sense.

REDSEER
06-29-2012, 01:10 AM
Yep, learn that in little league. Easier to come in than go back.

Right, but on a ball that is scalded like that, it's entirely on the instincts and first movement of the outfielder. Only reps, reps, and more reps can fix that.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:11 AM
And the ump starts ou calling that first pitch a strike when he called it a ball all night long for Cueto

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 01:11 AM
Votto grounds out to 3rd.

reds44
06-29-2012, 01:13 AM
Facing a lefty without Phillips in this park was trouble from the start. The righties on this team scare nobody.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 01:13 AM
Rolen flies out to center.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:14 AM
It's funny we rave about Homer's potential and Bumgarner is 22 and is pitching two times better while we still wait on that potential. Time to rid ourselves of potential. IMHO.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 01:14 AM
Bruce flies out to center. 3-0 Giants mid 7th.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 01:14 AM
It is scary to think what Matt Cain is going to do to this team tomorrow night

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:15 AM
It is scary to think what Matt Cain is going to do to this team tomorrow night

Third place, here we come.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:16 AM
It is scary to think what Matt Cain is going to do to this team tomorrow night

I'm scared of the whole road trip - I see the wheels coming off the whole season quite possibly as it has many times in past seasons when the west coast trip hits and things are never right after that. Seems to be the expose moment for teams with holes.

WMR
06-29-2012, 01:16 AM
It's funny we rave about Homer's potential and Bumgarner is 22 and is pitching two times better while we still wait on that potential. Time to rid ourselves of potential. IMHO.

Is anyone really still raving about Homer's potential? I think we pretty much know what he is at this point.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 01:17 AM
LeCure in to pitch

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:17 AM
Ok. Who's the Reds fan in the #14 jersey they just had on camera?

reds44
06-29-2012, 01:18 AM
Serious question:

Will Dusty ever bench Rolen?

WMR
06-29-2012, 01:19 AM
I'm scared of the whole road trip - I see the wheels coming off the whole season quite possibly as it has many times in past seasons when the west coast trip hits and things are never right after that. Seems to be the expose moment for teams with holes.

Bottom line, purely IMO, this team is simply not close to being true championship caliber.

They'll hang around the Central all season just because the Central is so bad, but this does not look like a team capable of a deep playoff run. The pieces just don't fit together that great, the more minor pieces especially.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 01:19 AM
Crawford flies out to center.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2012, 01:19 AM
You guys do realize that Pittsburgh is playing St. Louis this weekend? One of them has to lose.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 01:20 AM
Bumgarner singles to left.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:20 AM
Is anyone really still raving about Homer's potential? I think we pretty much know what he is at this point.

Some are on here. And I agree. Time to move him for offense and move Chapman into the rotation--or someone else. Or anyone. I see the kids like Bumgarner and just wonder why we continue to hope Bailey gets it. I've list patience.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:21 AM
Serious question:

Will Dusty ever bench Rolen?

I think only Rolen will bench Rolen. Y'know respect....all that old line stuff

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:21 AM
You guys do realize that Pittsburgh is playing St. Louis this weekend? One of them has to lose.

Yes. But they will probably, well one of them, pass us.

reds44
06-29-2012, 01:22 AM
I think only Rolen will bench Rolen. Y'know respect....all that old line stuff
I just don't get it. Even Griffey was a part time player when he went back to Seattle and that Mariners team was bad and he "earned" a lot more in Seattle than Rolen has here.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:22 AM
Just luv Sammy. Great god.

VR
06-29-2012, 01:22 AM
Is anyone really still raving about Homer's potential? I think we pretty much know what he is at this point.

Let's hope someone's GM is before the trade deadline.

Cut bait.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 01:23 AM
Well I think that is it for me tonight. Blanco triples to right center. 4-0 Giants.

reds44
06-29-2012, 01:23 AM
Goodnight.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:23 AM
Let's hope someone's GM is before the trade deadline.

Cut bait.

Capital idea. I'm all in. Have been for awhile.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2012, 01:24 AM
5-0 Giants.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:24 AM
blood in the water now.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:25 AM
Another lovely move by Dusty. Sam the stash LeCure. A pitcher few teams would move outa AAA. Why?

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:26 AM
Another lovely move by Dusty. Sam the stash LeCure. A pitcher few teams would move outa AAA. Why?

little harsh. Sam has been pretty good. Due for an off night. Why not tonight when they're pretty much cooked anyway?

REDSEER
06-29-2012, 01:26 AM
Not our night tonight. For all of you doomsday folk, just remember we beat Cain earlier this year.

gilpdawg
06-29-2012, 01:27 AM
Man, everybody needs to chill. The sky isn't falling.

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-29-2012, 01:28 AM
Yes. But they will probably, well one of them, pass us.

That was a given before the first pitch was thrown tonight. Since New York, the Reds have been below .500 against mediocre to horrific teams: 0-3 at Cleveland, 1-2 vs. Minnesota, 2-1 vs. Milwaukee.

That's hardly confidence-boosting going into San Francisco and Los Angeles.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:29 AM
little harsh. Sam has been pretty good. Due for an off night. Why not tonight when they're pretty much cooked anyway?

The game was at 3-0. Why not a more reliable arm. Sam is mop up or long relief. In the 7th I would expect someone to hod them. SAMs ERA of 4+ would indicate that wouldn't be the case. I like Sam, but not in this situation. Just a brain fart that is now out of hand.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:29 AM
Man, everybody needs to chill. The sky isn't falling.

Perhaps you're right. Just have a bad feeling about this road trip. They've been stumbling lately and this is bad timing to be going west, imo. I hope like heck they prove me wrong.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:31 AM
now they're playing like buffoons

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:33 AM
Man, everybody needs to chill. The sky isn't falling.

Of course, but the road is rough and the writing is on the wall. We have to make it up after this horrible road trip. A couple of wins in Cleveland and another win in the Minn series (against that horrible team) would have helped.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:34 AM
finally

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:38 AM
Frazier is Bum's 7th K

Kc61
06-29-2012, 01:38 AM
The game was at 3-0. Why not a more reliable arm. Sam is mop up or long relief. In the 7th I would expect someone to hod them. SAMs ERA of 4+ would indicate that wouldn't be the case. I like Sam, but not in this situation. Just a brain fart that is now out of hand.

WV, I disagree on this one. Sam has had some terrific outings this year, he is rested, this was a fine time to bring him in. It didn't work, it happens. The real crime would have been to use Marshall. And Ondrusek and Arredondo both pitched yesterday.

Ultimately, the Reds' problem on this trip is going to be scoring runs. The occasional 330 foot fly ball isn't going to do it in these stadiums. It's a different brand of baseball requiring such things as multiple and consecutive base hits.

Meanwhile, Cairo thinks the umpire is WAY off on his strike three call and is laughing.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:39 AM
Cairo looks angry at called strike 3

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:40 AM
That was the same strike call Bum has gotten all night that Cueto never got once

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:41 AM
WV, I disagree on this one. Sam has had some terrific outings this year, he is rested, this was a fine time to bring him in. It didn't work, it happens. The real crime would have been to use Marshall. And Ondrusek and Arredondo both pitched yesterday.

Ultimately, the Reds' problem on this trip is going to be scoring runs. The occasional 330 foot fly ball isn't going to do it in these stadiums. It's a different brand of baseball requiring such things as multiple and consecutive base hits.

True, and in reflection, this game was probably a lost cause from the first pitch. But I think you use Sam in different situations. I liked Simon there or even Bray, but too late for that.

REDSEER
06-29-2012, 01:41 AM
I'm afraid the book is starting to get out on Frazier. He struggles big time with offspeed away. We'll see if he can make adjustments.

On the other hand, Bumgarner is looking nasty tonight. I hate the term "tip your cap," but that's what it's looking like. These games happen every once in a while. I'm sure the Brewers were tipping their cap to Latos the other night.

Kc61
06-29-2012, 01:43 AM
This reminds me a bit of the Halladay no hitter in the playoffs two years ago. Pitcher is going great, terrific performance, but everything he throws is called a strike, no matter where it is.

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:44 AM
I have no problem tipping my hat to Bum but this could have been an exciting scoreless game with Reds personnel in their proper roles - at least until the pen came on...oh well...it is what it is

RedlegJake
06-29-2012, 01:45 AM
I think it's a good move to get Jose back on the horse tonight

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:45 AM
Well, this looks hopeless, but it now becomes imperative that the team win more of these games than they lose on this road trip. Then the goal is to win at home two out of three and go .500 on the road. Anything else and it will be disaster. I think. :)

Kc61
06-29-2012, 01:46 AM
I think it's a good move to get Jose back on the horse tonight

Yeah, let's get the walks out of our system before tomorrow's game.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:47 AM
Gotta get a run in the 9th. It's for pride.

Kc61
06-29-2012, 01:48 AM
Gotta get a run in the 9th. It's for pride.

Agree completely. Although sometimes I think the goal should be to get a run before the end of the last game Sunday.

WVRedsFan
06-29-2012, 01:50 AM
Agree completely. Although sometimes I think the goal should be to get a run before the end of the last game Sunday.

Oh. I hope that is in jest. Surely we can win two?