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reds44
07-03-2012, 07:07 PM
Cozart
Stubbs
Votto
Phillips
Bruce
Ludwick
Frazier
Hanigan
Cueto

hebroncougar
07-03-2012, 07:19 PM
Wow...with all the precautions with head injuries, I'm shocked Cozart is playing.

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cumberlandreds
07-03-2012, 07:59 PM
Wow...with all the precautions with head injuries, I'm shocked Cozart is playing.

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I am too. I would have thought he would sit one out just for precaution. Good to see Votto back.

cbowen2112
07-03-2012, 08:23 PM
I really wish BP was back in te lead off spot. Cozart 2 and Frazier 4th.

DGullett35
07-03-2012, 08:26 PM
If you look at the replay of the Cozart head hit it looks like the ball caught more helmet than anything. It looked as if his helmet was coming off when he got hit which turned out to be a good thing because the helmet took most of the impact. Good to see him and Votto back. Welsh was calling this the "Snub Game" because of Capuano and Cueto. Id love to see Cueto throw a gem tonight and shove it in the face of TLR

DGullett35
07-03-2012, 08:26 PM
I really wish BP was back in te lead off spot. Cozart 2 and Frazier 4th.

Me too but man Im just happy to see that one guy back in the 3 hole. Seems like hes been gone for far too long.

Kc61
07-03-2012, 09:10 PM
Me too but man Im just happy to see that one guy back in the 3 hole. Seems like hes been gone for far too long.

Yay. Votto is back.

powersackers
07-03-2012, 09:49 PM
Stubbs is 0 for his last 17 or so. Taking pitches he should swing at and swinging at pitchers pitches.

hebroncougar
07-03-2012, 10:36 PM
Stubbs is 0 for his last 17 or so. Taking pitches he should swing at and swinging at pitchers pitches.

Is he 0-for his last time Votto was hitting behind him? He's been getting a lot more breaking balls since then it seems like.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 10:59 PM
Let's have a good, clean game thread tonight. Nothing below the belt.

Remember, we have one of the best teams in the sport, or so says the last 80 games.

nate
07-03-2012, 11:01 PM
Chat is open!

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:05 PM
Chat is open!

I really wish that were available on iPad.

Screwball
07-03-2012, 11:06 PM
Anybody watching the game on FSOhio? Welsh looks hilarious. I think he lost a bet to Kelch.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:15 PM
Ok I'm back. Cozart walks on eight balls (he's seeing double), and Stubbs flies out.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:17 PM
Votto does what Votto does. Single to opposite field.

hebroncougar
07-03-2012, 11:17 PM
I can't believe Capuano gets away with moving his front foot twice, before going home. Is that not a balk?

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VR
07-03-2012, 11:18 PM
Phillips going to have a good night vs. the lefty.

So is Ludwick for that matter.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:21 PM
I love Chris's musings on pitching.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:21 PM
Ugh, Capuano is a Dukie? Light him up.

VR
07-03-2012, 11:22 PM
Houston tied it in the 9th off Hanrahan, after the Pirates had come back from 4 down to take the lead.

Pitt now batting in the bottom of the 9th.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:23 PM
Houston tied it in the 9th off Hanrahan, after the Pirates had come back from 4 down to take the lead.

Pitt now batting in the bottom of the 9th.

Ret's ro Rastros.

Tom Servo
07-03-2012, 11:24 PM
Anybody watching the game on FSOhio? Welsh looks hilarious. I think he lost a bet to Kelch.
He bought it in San Francisco.

Tom Servo
07-03-2012, 11:25 PM
Interesting slide by Joey :lol:

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:25 PM
Joey started his slide about halfway down the line. Phillips safe at first. First and third, two down.

kbrake
07-03-2012, 11:25 PM
I think we got a call at first there.

VR
07-03-2012, 11:26 PM
Like to see that pitch count high in the early innings, great job by Brandon fouling off some tough borderline pitches.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:26 PM
Welsh saying Cap's windup should probably be a balk. Bruce grounds out.

Tom Servo
07-03-2012, 11:26 PM
No runs, but they made Capuano work. Would love to get into that Dodgers bullpen again.

Screwball
07-03-2012, 11:28 PM
He bought it in San Francisco.

Makes sense. Bright lime green blazer with matching bow tie is a jailable offense in most cities.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:30 PM
Gordon flies out quickly.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:31 PM
Ellis grounds out to Coz.

WVRedsFan
07-03-2012, 11:32 PM
Marty.praising.Cozart...Mark it down.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:33 PM
Abreu flies out. That was quick.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:33 PM
Stupid autocorrect. I apologize for the next thousand of those in advance.

NJReds
07-03-2012, 11:36 PM
Pirates get a walkoff HR from Drew Sutton.

VR
07-03-2012, 11:36 PM
He bought it in San Francisco.

Perhaps he was inspired by Anderson Cooper.

The Operator
07-03-2012, 11:36 PM
Anyone see Chris Welsh's jacket?

As Homer Simpson says, there are two types of guys who wear Hawaiian shirts. Gay guys and big fat party animals. Which one is Chris?

VR
07-03-2012, 11:37 PM
Ludwick at .799

The Operator
07-03-2012, 11:38 PM
White Sox beating Texas 19-0. That sure can't help the 'ol Pythag.

Screwball
07-03-2012, 11:38 PM
Pirates get a walkoff HR from Drew Sutton.

The same Drew Sutton we acquired from the Astros for Keppinger way back when?

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:38 PM
Ludwick singles, down goes Frazier looking.

Kc61
07-03-2012, 11:39 PM
Pirates get a walkoff HR from Drew Sutton.

Happened to hear the end of that game on a radio feed. Pirates announcers.

Must have been the seventh game of the World Series that the Battling Bucs won.

Tom Servo
07-03-2012, 11:39 PM
The same Drew Sutton we acquired from the Astros for Keppinger way back when?
The very same.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:40 PM
Hanigan double play.

VR
07-03-2012, 11:41 PM
White Sox beating Texas 19-0. That sure can't help the 'ol Pythag.

Had a game that Sea put up 20+ on them earlier...and yet even after tonight they will comfortably lead the bigs in run differential

Tom Servo
07-03-2012, 11:42 PM
Hanigan double play.
A .245 batting average and .638 OPS in June, and July hasn't started much better.

The Operator
07-03-2012, 11:43 PM
Had a game that Sea put up 20+ on them earlier...and yet even after tonight they will comfortably lead the bigs in run differentialIndeed. They are scary good. Even Ron Washington may not be able to keep them from winning it all this time around.

Kc61
07-03-2012, 11:44 PM
A .245 batting average and .638 OPS in June, and July hasn't started much better.

I just looked up Hanigan's stats for the last thirty days and they are about what you said.

Hanigan is either worn down or just in a long slump.

Maybe it's time to find a third starter for Mes, leaving Ryan to catch two of 'em.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:45 PM
Rivera strikes out, Kennedy singles.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:46 PM
I just looked up Hanigan's stats for the last thirty days and they are about what you said.

Hanigan is either worn down or just in a long slump.

Maybe it's time to find a third starter for Mes, leaving Ryan to catch two of 'em.

I wouldn't mess up a good battery. He's still the eighth batter.

The Operator
07-03-2012, 11:47 PM
Stadium playing music with Cueto on the rubber. Classy.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:48 PM
Weird sequence. Cueto calls time to adjust pants or jock, stadium plays music and doesnt cut it off during Cueto looking for the sign, so the ump calls time. Then Cueto pitches seemingly before the ump settles in. Pop out to Hanigan.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:49 PM
Cruz rung up on a borderline pitch. What a beaut.

Kc61
07-03-2012, 11:50 PM
I wouldn't mess up a good battery. He's still the eighth batter.

Trying to get Mes some more action. Has a live bat when he makes contact.

Scoreless after two. Cueto leads off.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:53 PM
Trying to get Mes some more action. Has a live bat when he makes contact.

I get that, but the pitching has been so great, I wouldn't throw a wrench in a half season's worth of rapport. Now, if, god forbid, someone goes down, I would entertain the idea of matching the replacement with Mez.

The Operator
07-03-2012, 11:54 PM
Dang. Warning track power.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:54 PM
Cueto strikes out, Coz flies out deep in the corner.

Tom Servo
07-03-2012, 11:56 PM
ahh vintage Stubby

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:56 PM
Stubbs watches an 88mph meatball for strike three.

Kc61
07-03-2012, 11:58 PM
Was hopeful about Stubbs when he moved to the two spot in the order earlier in the season.

But since he came back from the oblique injury, his hitting has regressed to the depths of 2011.

WildcatFan
07-03-2012, 11:59 PM
Gwynn lines out to short.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:00 AM
Cueto strikes out Capuano.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 12:00 AM
Cueto is dealing.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:01 AM
Cueto is dealing.

Almost looks like an All Star.

VR
07-04-2012, 12:01 AM
Cueto is dealing.

Cueto is pitching like he's dating Tony LaRussa's girlfriend.

Screwball
07-04-2012, 12:02 AM
Cueto is pitching like he's dating Tony LaRussa's girlfriend.

:laugh:

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:03 AM
Chris says a scout told him if the Reds put Hamilton in center field, he's a gold glover.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:03 AM
Gordon singles.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:05 AM
Gordon is really bothering Cueto with two outs.

Screwball
07-04-2012, 12:05 AM
Not sure how Ellis laid off that 0-2 slider.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:08 AM
Great slider strikes out Ellis. No score going to 4.

Kc61
07-04-2012, 12:09 AM
What happened to Cueto's motion? He isn't using that Luis Tiant type motion where he almost turns his back to the hitter.

VR
07-04-2012, 12:09 AM
Chris says a scout told him if the Reds put Hamilton in center field, he's a gold glover.

I can't wait.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:12 AM
What happened to Cueto's motion? He isn't using that Luis Tiant type motion where he almost turns his back to the hitter.

Doesn't he only do it from the windup?

Screwball
07-04-2012, 12:13 AM
Doesn't he only do it from the windup?

Yes.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:13 AM
Phillips grounds out. Two down.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:15 AM
Bruce walks.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:15 AM
We don't have quite the chatter we did last night.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:16 AM
Ludwick missed that change by six feet.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 12:16 AM
We don't have quite the chatter we did last night.nothin to complain about yet

VR
07-04-2012, 12:16 AM
Cards lose.

Screwball
07-04-2012, 12:16 AM
We don't have quite the chatter we did last night.

Yeah, this one might go slightly less than 45 pages.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:17 AM
Cards lose.

High fives all around.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:17 AM
Luddy with another base knock!

Kc61
07-04-2012, 12:17 AM
Cards lost. Not having a very good homestand.

Reds with one on, two out. Now Ludwick singles so two on, two out.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 12:18 AM
Ludwick for cleanup, BP for leadoff please

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:18 AM
Ludwick for cleanup, BP for leadoff please

Seconded.

Kc61
07-04-2012, 12:18 AM
Doesn't he only do it from the windup?

I must have noticed when Johnny was pitching from the stretch.

VR
07-04-2012, 12:18 AM
Ludwick dialed in, hopefully he or Frazier are in the 4 spot after the ASB, with Stubby moving down and Phillips to LO

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:19 AM
I must have noticed when Johnny was pitching from the stretch.

Understandable. He's so rarely in it.

kbrake
07-04-2012, 12:19 AM
Struggling to keep my eyes open tonight.

Screwball
07-04-2012, 12:20 AM
Frazier's done a good job working himself into a hitter's count here. Then works the walk. Bases juiced.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 12:20 AM
Good time for Hanigan to bust outta that slump.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:21 AM
Struggling to keep my eyes open tonight.

Hey, 40 minutes until we celebrate our independence! Without it, we have no baseball.

Did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

VR
07-04-2012, 12:21 AM
Redemption time for Hanny.

Kc61
07-04-2012, 12:22 AM
Chris C has lost the plate. High and wide, 2-0 count.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:22 AM
TERRIBLE call

Kc61
07-04-2012, 12:22 AM
TERRIBLE call

Called a strike because it was closer than the first two.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 12:22 AM
TERRIBLE call
Yeah I have no idea what that was.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:22 AM
Shoulda been 3-0, instead it's 2-2.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:24 AM
Make em wish they'd walked you, Hanny,

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:24 AM
Ground out to third. Frazier made it close.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 12:24 AM
close play right there...

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 12:25 AM
Capuano up to 66 pitches

Kc61
07-04-2012, 12:27 AM
Replay shows Frazier was safe at second. Reds should have a run.

fearofpopvol1
07-04-2012, 12:27 AM
Frazier was safe. what in the world is wrong with the umping this year? It's seriously the worst I've ever seen.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:27 AM
He was safe. I took a screen shot I can't figure out how to upload.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:28 AM
Http://pic.twitter.com/bHrmXRwu

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:29 AM
Abreu groundout, Rivera fly out.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 12:30 AM
1-2-3 for Cueto

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:30 AM
Kennedy soft fly out.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:31 AM
Cueto sure is sharp. 52 pitches.

Kc61
07-04-2012, 12:33 AM
Cueto sure is sharp. 52 pitches.

Won't do him any good if the Reds don't score and the umpires keep preventing them from scoring.

Hit for Cueto.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:34 AM
Single for Cueto! Fourth of the season. He's a little limpy,

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:34 AM
Looks like he fell funny diving back to first.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:34 AM
Haha he's leading off about 30 inches.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:35 AM
Loney's laughing at him. Fly out for Coz. One down.

Kc61
07-04-2012, 12:36 AM
Ok, Stubbs, man on base, let's try and do something positive at the plate.

Enough terrible hitting, let's get going.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:37 AM
Stubbs pops out. Hm.

VR
07-04-2012, 12:38 AM
Better hit a dinger Joey if Cueto is going to score.

Kc61
07-04-2012, 12:38 AM
Pop up by Stubbs wouldn't be so bad, except he swung at a pitch clearly out of the zone.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 12:38 AM
Chris Stubbs and Drew Heisey.

Matt700wlw
07-04-2012, 12:38 AM
Stubbs has to go.

Matt700wlw
07-04-2012, 12:39 AM
I hate saying that too

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:39 AM
I love the way Joey always takes a quick glance to left field before the pitch. He's just the best.

Kc61
07-04-2012, 12:39 AM
Chris Stubbs and Drew Heisey.

Yeah, pretty funny how much space was wasted debating Stubbs vs. Heisey.

The answer is none of the above.

VR
07-04-2012, 12:39 AM
Stubbs has to go.

Marty wants to replace him with a CF that can hit. Heisey.

Identical OPS at .659.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:40 AM
Single the other way. Because its Joey Votto.

Kc61
07-04-2012, 12:41 AM
Marty wants to replace him with a CF that can hit. Heisey.

Identical OPS at .659.

Did Marty watch the several weeks of Heisey we got when Stubbs was hurt?

I say Wilson Valdez. Played one series, Reds swept. I vote Valdez.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:41 AM
Come on, DatDude. It's your time to smile.

Kc61
07-04-2012, 12:42 AM
Reds with five base runners in last two innings.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:43 AM
Reds with five base runners in last two innings.

The leadoff man has gotten on in 4 of 5 innings.

VR
07-04-2012, 12:43 AM
Reds with five base runners in last two innings.

Two on in the 1st as well.

Capuano and Cueto both have goose eggs up there, but Capuano has played with fire all night.

Johnny? Borrringggg.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 12:44 AM
DatDude2B! 1-0 Reds.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:44 AM
DatDude2B!!!!

Cueto scores, Votto still slow and has to hold up.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:44 AM
DatDude2B! 1-0 Reds.

No way.

Kc61
07-04-2012, 12:45 AM
Brandon really lined that shot for the double.

Bruce with a liner just foul, also hit hard.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 12:46 AM
Bruuuuuuce striiiiiikes out, but, 1-0 Reds.

fearofpopvol1
07-04-2012, 12:47 AM
Bruce is a lifetime .235 hitter against lefties. He also K's 28% of his PAs against lefties.

VR
07-04-2012, 12:47 AM
14 'combined' LOB for the Reds tonight. Lots of dudes on base. Keep at it boys.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 12:47 AM
Is it me or did BP look a little upset over Votto not scoring? I mean, obviously Votto would have if he could have but still...BP didn't seem his normal happy self after that double.

VR
07-04-2012, 12:50 AM
Bruce is a lifetime .235 hitter against lefties. He also K's 28% of his PAs against lefties.

Since 2010, he's been very good against lefties. Brutal at start of his career.

mbgrayson
07-04-2012, 12:50 AM
Ludwick doesn't run hard after that foul by Loney, and it bounces off the tarp. Playable ball...

wheels
07-04-2012, 12:50 AM
Great range by Stubbs there. Nice.

Kc61
07-04-2012, 12:51 AM
Stubbs can't hit these days, but a beautiful catch.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 12:51 AM
That's why if it comes down to Heisey or Stubbs, I take Stubbs.

wheels
07-04-2012, 12:51 AM
Joey looking like Grant Fuhr there.

OesterPoster
07-04-2012, 12:53 AM
Is it me or did BP look a little upset over Votto not scoring? I mean, obviously Votto would have if he could have but still...BP didn't seem his normal happy self after that double.

I don't think so. I think he was po'd he didn't hit the ball over the wall.

Kc61
07-04-2012, 12:53 AM
Is it me or did BP look a little upset over Votto not scoring? I mean, obviously Votto would have if he could have but still...BP didn't seem his normal happy self after that double.

LOL, if Votto isn't in the lineup, Brandon maybe doesn't get up that inning and never gets the double.

A gimpy Votto is better than most, even if he can't score on a double from first base.

Brandon should chill.

WVRedsFan
07-04-2012, 12:54 AM
That's why if it comes down to Heisey or Stubbs, I take Stubbs.

Me too. Heisey has a better average, but makes little difference.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 12:54 AM
LOL, if Votto isn't in the lineup, Brandon maybe doesn't get up that inning and never gets the double.

A gimpy Votto is better than most, even if he can't score on a double from first base.

Brandon should chill.
Let it be known that it's just me speculating. But I did find it odd he wasn't smiling.

wheels
07-04-2012, 12:54 AM
There is no way to know what Brandon was shaking his head about. My guess is that he thought he should have hit it out of the park, but...who knows for sure?

fearofpopvol1
07-04-2012, 12:54 AM
Since 2010, he's been very good against lefties. Brutal at start of his career.

.240 in 2011. Not sure that's "very good."

mbgrayson
07-04-2012, 12:55 AM
After five innings, Reds 1, Dodgers 0.

Capuano at 88 pitches, 57 strikes.
Cueto at 65 pitches, 45 strikes.

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 12:56 AM
Capuano starts getting hammered at this point though as Scully has pointed out

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 12:58 AM
Need to take advantage as this will be his last inning

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 12:59 AM
Chen has a good one going up in Seattle

VR
07-04-2012, 12:59 AM
.240 in 2011. Not sure that's "very good."

.808 OPS....I'll take it. 11 dingers in 180 PA's vs. lefties, 21 in 480 vs. righties.


Overall OPS since the start of 2010 v. lefties is around .840.

Yeah, that's actually very, very good. :)

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:00 AM
Luddy strikes out. One away.

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 01:02 AM
disappointing.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:02 AM
1-2-3 for Cap. Headed to bottom 6.

mbgrayson
07-04-2012, 01:03 AM
1-2-3 for Cap. Headed to bottom 6.

Ten pitch inning for Capuano there: Ludwick 7, Frazier 2, and Hanigan 1.

kaldaniels
07-04-2012, 01:03 AM
Hanny is hitting himself out of playing time.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:03 AM
Happy Fourth to my fellow RZers.

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 01:04 AM
Bottom 7 Wei Yen Chen coming to the mound - check it out all zeroes for the Mariners. 4-0 Baltimore.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 01:05 AM
Happy Fourth to my fellow RZers.
:usa:

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:05 AM
Elian Herrera pinch hitting for Capuano.

WVRedsFan
07-04-2012, 01:05 AM
That's why if it comes down to Heisey or Stubbs, I take Stubbs.

Me too. Heisey has a better average, but makes little difference.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:06 AM
Cueto hands the ump a piece of paper he had in his pocket. Fortunately not of the sand variety.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:07 AM
Herrera singles to left.

dsmith421
07-04-2012, 01:07 AM
Where, precisely, was that last pitch before the single? I'm curious.

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 01:08 AM
4 fouls to Ichiro and Ks him on a 69 curveball. 19.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:08 AM
Nice sac bunt. Gordon almost beat it out. One down, runner on second.

WVRedsFan
07-04-2012, 01:08 AM
Ugh. Lack of offense means stressful times.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:09 AM
Ugh. Lack of offense means stressful times.

Capuano's been very good this season. The LA bullpen, not so much.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:10 AM
Hanigan is dancing behind home. He may suspect some glancing from Ellis.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:10 AM
Burned him with a 95er.

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 01:11 AM
Casper Wells breaks it up with a home run 20th hitter. Thank goodness. Too many of them this year.

Kc61
07-04-2012, 01:11 AM
Big at bat coming up. This Abreu guy is 38 but knows how to strike the baseball.

reds44
07-04-2012, 01:12 AM
Cueto hands the ump a piece of paper he had in his pocket. Fortunately not of the sand variety.
Can't tell you how worried I was about that when it happened

WVRedsFan
07-04-2012, 01:13 AM
Big at bat coming up. This Abreu guy is 38 but knows how to strike the baseball.

Strike one

Kc61
07-04-2012, 01:13 AM
Johnny throwing fastballs all the way to Abreu, but it's a 3-1 count.

Johnny, if you walk him you walk him. Don't groove it.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:13 AM
3-1 to Abreu. Let's go, Johnny.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:14 AM
Balk. Oops.

WVRedsFan
07-04-2012, 01:14 AM
Balk? Can't see, but why now

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 01:14 AM
Johny knew it.

fearofpopvol1
07-04-2012, 01:15 AM
.808 OPS....I'll take it. 11 dingers in 180 PA's vs. lefties, 21 in 480 vs. righties.


Overall OPS since the start of 2010 v. lefties is around .840.

Yeah, that's actually very, very good. :)

It's a little misleading. He had an amazing 2010 season where he OPS'd .900 against lefties. He has since, not come close to that. 2011, he finished with .804. This year, his OPS against lefties is .786.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:15 AM
Balk? Can't see, but why now

He had a little wiggle before standing up.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 01:15 AM
Damn

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:15 AM
Singles in the tying run.

WVRedsFan
07-04-2012, 01:16 AM
Fudge

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 01:16 AM
I'd rather he had walked him once he had 3 balls on Abreu.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:16 AM
That's probably first and third without the balk.

reds44
07-04-2012, 01:16 AM
That's probably first and third without the balk.
No way the dude on 3rd can fly.

Reds Freak
07-04-2012, 01:16 AM
I'd rather he had walked him once he had 3 balls on Abreu.

He just about struck him out the pitch before.

CrackerJack
07-04-2012, 01:16 AM
God forbid Cueto actually give up a run, although the 6th inning is usually his achille's.

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 01:17 AM
2 down full count he's running on the pitch and he can fly - he scores on that hit without the balk

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:17 AM
Ground out to Cozart. 1-1 after 6.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 01:17 AM
He just about struck him out the pitch before.
First pitch looked like a strike, as well.

OesterPoster
07-04-2012, 01:17 AM
Time to feast on the Dodger bullpen.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:17 AM
2 down full count he's running on the pitch and he can fly - he scores on that hit without the balk

May be right. That liner got to Stubbs quickly, though. Could have been a play.

dsmith421
07-04-2012, 01:18 AM
Am I allowed to say that was kind of a BS balk, or will someone tomorrow call me "pathetic"?

reds44
07-04-2012, 01:18 AM
2 down full count he's running on the pitch and he can fly - he scores on that hit without the balk
He's running on a full count pitch when he's not a force out? I agree he beats it, but no.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:18 AM
Am I allowed to say that was kind of a BS balk, or will someone tomorrow call me "pathetic"?

I know why he called it. It was awfully late, though.

Kc61
07-04-2012, 01:21 AM
Cannot give up that hit to Abreu. Sorry, I know Johnny has been great, but he grooved the pitch.

Fall behind a hitter like Abreu 3-1 you don't give in. If you walk him, you walk him. First base was open the Dodgers have very few hitters.

Just a terrible pitch.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:21 AM
Cueto's got that opposite field blooper working. This one caught by Loney. One away.

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 01:22 AM
He's running on a full count pitch when he's not a force out? I agree he beats it, but no.

I would be. 75% chance he makes contact, or misses and is out. The way Cueto is pitching the odds are slim he walks him but if he does the way he runs you take the chance you beat a throw and steal third. Yes. I would have.

reds44
07-04-2012, 01:22 AM
I would be. 75% chance he makes contact, misses and is out. The way Cueto is pitching the odds are slim he walks him but if he does the way he runs you take the chance you beat a throw and steal third. Yes. I would have.
No chance he would have been running.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:22 AM
Cozart drops a single.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 01:23 AM
Cannot give up that hit to Abreu. Sorry, I know Johnny has been great, but he grooved the pitch.

Fall behind a hitter like Abreu 3-1 you don't give in. If you walk him, you walk him. First base was open the Dodgers have very few hitters.

Just a terrible pitch.
I don't think he gave in. He got a 3-1 slider in for a strike. He had just struck out Ellis on a fastball.

reds44
07-04-2012, 01:23 AM
Vin Scully just said Cozart being beaned was the start of the Peoria/Dayton brawl a few years back where the Cubs pitcher got arrested. Didn't know that.

WVRedsFan
07-04-2012, 01:23 AM
It's amosy futile with our 1-2 hitters. Why can the brain trust not see this
? And with that Zacn singles.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:23 AM
Stubbs. Dude. We need you to figure it out here.

Reds Freak
07-04-2012, 01:24 AM
Cannot give up that hit to Abreu. Sorry, I know Johnny has been great, but he grooved the pitch.

Fall behind a hitter like Abreu 3-1 you don't give in. If you walk him, you walk him. First base was open the Dodgers have very few hitters.

Just a terrible pitch.

This isn't Tom Shearn pitching. This is Johnny Cueto, the Reds ace vs. a .248 hitter. You challenge him every day. He just about struck him out the pitch before the hit.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:24 AM
Vin Scully just said Cozart being beaned was the start of the Peoria/Dayton brawl a few years back where the Cubs pitcher got arrested. Didn't know that.

Don't remember that story.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:25 AM
Come on, blue. Stubbs can strike out on his own. No need for your help.

reds44
07-04-2012, 01:25 AM
Don't remember that story.
Dude chucked a ball trying to get it into the Dayton dugout and it ended up going in the stands and hitting a lady lol

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 01:25 AM
that was called a strike?

reds44
07-04-2012, 01:25 AM
Minor League Brawl :: Dayton Dragon Vs Peroia Chiefs - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syVwrmHiGlQ&feature=related)

dsmith421
07-04-2012, 01:25 AM
That is one of the worst at-bats I've ever seen.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:26 AM
Dude chucked a ball trying to get it into the Dayton dugout and it ended up going in the stands and hitting a lady lol

Yep, I do remember that. I didn't realize he was arrested. What a dolt.

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 01:26 AM
Keep watching Stubbs and Heisey - you'll see even worse.

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 01:27 AM
From last season to this Heisey has done a complete turnaround and Stubbs has been sinking at bat by at bat since his first 4 or 5 months up.

kaldaniels
07-04-2012, 01:27 AM
Vin Scully just said Cozart being beaned was the start of the Peoria/Dayton brawl a few years back where the Cubs pitcher got arrested. Didn't know that.

Kyle Lotzkar in that game too...he's been in the system forever.

Kc61
07-04-2012, 01:28 AM
This isn't Tom Shearn pitching. This is Johnny Cueto, the Reds ace vs. a .248 hitter. You challenge him every day. He just about struck him out the pitch before the hit.

I said it during the at bat, post 182 of this thread.

Bobby Abreu is a professional hitter. The Dodgers have a weak lineup.

You fall behind Abreu in that spot you cannot groove the pitch, which he did.

You make him go out of the zone to get a hit. If you walk him, you walk him, and pitch to the next guy.

You groove a pitch to Bobby Abreu, even at 38, and you get burned.

Three key plays this game. Frazier getting called out erroneously at second base on force play. Votto unable to score because of bad knee. Cueto grooving pitch to Abreu with first base open.

reds44
07-04-2012, 01:30 AM
Kyle Lotzkar in that game too...he's been in the system forever.
Still only 22.

http://www.milb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_518952.jpg

And bad facial hair.

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 01:30 AM
Kc's point is why I wished he had just walked Abreau. Bobby is a pro hitter. Someone said why? He almost sruck him out the spitch before. Right. And with a hitter like Abreu you get exactly one of those almosts. Then he makes you pay. He is past his prime but he is like old Ken Griffey Sr. He can hit until the day he dies. Those kind of guys were born to hit.

kaldaniels
07-04-2012, 01:31 AM
It was a mistake pitch by Cueto.

Reading some on here you'd think he intentionally threw it down Broadway.

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 01:32 AM
No Kal - I just was wishing he'd thrown a ball instead. simple wish that's all.

WVRedsFan
07-04-2012, 01:32 AM
Important inning and Johnny doesn't deserve this.

oregonred
07-04-2012, 01:33 AM
One of those close, tight games in the late innings full of missed LOB opportunities.

The kind of game the Reds have been on the wrong side of over the last 3-4 weeks. Other than the Arroyo no hitter where Stubbs hit the HR in the bottom of the 8th have we won a game in the last three weeks tied or down after the 6th inning? At some point things have to even out... You'd think

CrackerJack
07-04-2012, 01:33 AM
I said it during the at bat, post 182 of this thread.

Bobby Abreu is a professional hitter. The Dodgers have a weak lineup.

You fall behind Abreu in that spot you cannot groove the pitch, which he did.

You make him go out of the zone to get a hit. If you walk him, you walk him, and pitch to the next guy.

You groove a pitch to Bobby Abreu, even at 38, and you get burned.

I agree, it was a bad pitch, it happens, he's given up 1 run through 6, typical Cueto. I'd hardly worry about that one pitch when this team is given great SP every night and is constantly fighting tooth and nail just to score enough runs to edge out the other team, which is 100X more frustrating to watch.

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:33 AM
Johnny at 84 pitches. More importantly, Adam Kennedy's at-bat music is Ain't Nothin But A G Thang.

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 01:34 AM
Frustration is why I harp and its not fair to gripe on Johnny when its the offense I'm actually frustrated with. Yall are right about that.

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 01:35 AM
Thank you Mr. Kennedy

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:35 AM
Kennedy looked silly striking out on that 3-2 pitch. One out,

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:36 AM
Single for Loney.

VR
07-04-2012, 01:37 AM
One of those close, tight games in the late innings full of missed LOB opportunities.

The kind of game the Reds have been on the wrong side of over the last 3-4 weeks. Other than the Arroyo no hitter where Stubbs hit the HR in the bottom of the 8th have we won a game in the last three weeks tied or down after the 6th inning? At some point things have to even out... You'd think

Yes. Comfortable wins like last night's are rare....living on the edge is overrated.

dsmith421
07-04-2012, 01:37 AM
Is Creeper sleeping on Loney's couch this week?

Kc61
07-04-2012, 01:37 AM
I agree, it was a bad pitch, it happens, he's given up 1 run through 6, typical Cueto. I'd hardly worry about that one pitch when this team is given great SP every night and is constantly fighting tooth and nail just to score enough runs to edge out the other team, which is 100X more frustrating to watch.

Obviously Cueto has been great, I'm not indicting the pitcher's whole season.

And Cueto certainly is entitled to allow a run.

But that one was predictable because it was Abreu. And in a very tight, low scoring game, I think it was a particularly bad mistake to throw it down Broadway to a hitter like Abreu.

I would have rather he walked him. That's all.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 01:38 AM
:(

Kc61
07-04-2012, 01:39 AM
Pirates are probably arranging a parade.

Tom Servo
07-04-2012, 01:39 AM
welp

dsmith421
07-04-2012, 01:39 AM
Wow. What a complete fiasco.

RedlegJake
07-04-2012, 01:39 AM
wheels come off

CrackerJack
07-04-2012, 01:39 AM
Cueto's lost it now

reds44
07-04-2012, 01:39 AM
2 minutes for tripping

VR
07-04-2012, 01:40 AM
What?

WildcatFan
07-04-2012, 01:40 AM
Oof, that's a bad pitch, but Hanny probably shoulda had it. 3-1 on what's scored a steal of home.

oregonred
07-04-2012, 01:40 AM
Late inning frustration continues. Can't wait for this trend to end...