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Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 07:19 PM
Reds lineup:

Cozart SS
Valdez CF
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Frazier 3B
Heisey LF
Hanigan C
Latos P

DiamondRat
07-05-2012, 07:20 PM
Valdez batting second? Really?

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 07:20 PM
Padres lineup:

Venable RF
Amarista 2B
Headley 3B
Quentin LF
Grandal C
Alonso 1B
Maybin CF
Cabrera SS
Volquez P

alloverjr
07-05-2012, 07:28 PM
I love the creative side of Dusty...:luvu:

CySeymour
07-05-2012, 07:30 PM
Dusty's lineup construction is just awful.

powersackers
07-05-2012, 07:35 PM
Valdez is there solely for a sac bunt. Dusty is expecting a low scoring game. Just hope he can get it done in cf.

CesarGeronimo
07-05-2012, 07:37 PM
Dusty's lineup construction is just awful.

What? You'd prefer centerfielder first and shortstop second?

Dusty is trying to build Stubb's confidence by putting someone even worse than him in the 2 spot. It isn't easy, but he's making it happen.

OldXOhio
07-05-2012, 07:37 PM
He just isnt ever gonna get it.

CesarGeronimo
07-05-2012, 07:41 PM
Valdez is there solely for a sac bunt. Dusty is expecting a low scoring game. Just hope he can get it done in cf.

Now, this is genius. You put a remarkably low OBP guy to lead off and a sac bunt specialist to bat second. Anybody see a flaw with that strategy? Anybody?

Kc61
07-05-2012, 07:55 PM
Swept the Mets at Citifield with Valdez in CF hitting second.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 08:02 PM
The Reds should light up Volquez like a Christmas tree. They know his game as well as anyone.

Alas, they probably won't. Even knowing he's a walk machine, I have a sinking feeling they'll go up there hacking trying to "make something happen." :(

DGullett35
07-05-2012, 08:04 PM
Swept the Mets at Citifield with Valdez in CF hitting second.

And if I remember correctly Valdez had a pretty good series at the plate then and not just bunting. he had a couple RBI singles. Im so sick of Stubbs Im glad Valdez gets the start.

DGullett35
07-05-2012, 08:06 PM
Volquez will probably have 6 or more walks and still only give up a run or 2 in 7 innings. After thinking about it we should sweep these guys. I mean cmon. latos has been throwing great and vs. his old team he should continue that. Arroyo has been due for a win for 5 starts now. Bailey pitches like Cy Young on the road and with this huge park it should be no different, and Cueto is due after losing his last 2. So after all that a 4 game sweep should be easy right?

Kc61
07-05-2012, 08:12 PM
And if I remember correctly Valdez had a pretty good series at the plate then and not just bunting. he had a couple RBI singles. Im so sick of Stubbs Im glad Valdez gets the start.

As poor a hitter as Valdez is, he doesn't strike out much. So there's that.

oregonred
07-05-2012, 08:16 PM
Just like little league. Instruct Valdez not to swing until he gets two strikes. Guaranteed two walk minimum against Volkie.

SS/CF must bat #1 and #2.

hebroncougar
07-05-2012, 08:23 PM
That's a lot of ground for inexperience in CF. Is Ludwick hurt?

Redhook
07-05-2012, 08:35 PM
It truly boggles my mind how ignorant Dusty is. If I was Votto, I'd be furious. I'm sure he is deep down, but would never say anything about it.

RedsfaninMT
07-05-2012, 08:45 PM
That's a lot of ground for inexperience in CF. Is Ludwick hurt?

Don't you get it? Dusty is challenging Volquez to throw something even Heisey won't swing at, thereby seeing if he can really mess with his control.


Pure genius!

reds44
07-05-2012, 08:46 PM
I can't wait to watch the boys hack tonight!

And batting Valdez 2nd and playing in him CF is hilarious, but CFers hit 2nd dude.

Tom Servo
07-05-2012, 08:49 PM
Cozart continuing to leadoff is worse than Valdez batting second tonight, IMO.

cbowen2112
07-05-2012, 09:03 PM
Random: I was checking Cards/Rox box score to learn something of Fowler. As I was skimming through, I noticed something very frustrating: the lowest BA for the cards is .277 for Furcal. Almost every hitter sans pother is at .300. Is that a hitting coach thing or just good drafting and smart trades? Could it also simply be lineup construction? I want out lowest avg in our lineup to be .240, let alone .270+. Something needs to change and it ain't playing Valdez in center. Terrible lineup once again.

Raisor
07-05-2012, 09:06 PM
Cozart continuing to leadoff is worse than Valdez batting second tonight, IMO.

I dunno, Valdez's career OBP is 287.

At least Cozart makes up for his his .300 OBP with a little pop.

Raisor
07-05-2012, 09:07 PM
Random: I was checking Cards/Rox box score to learn something of Fowler. As I was skimming through, I noticed something very frustrating: the lowest BA for the cards is .277 for Furcal. Almost every hitter sans pother is at .300. Is that a hitting coach thing or just good drafting and smart trades? Could it also simply be lineup construction? I want out lowest avg in our lineup to be .240, let alone .270+. Something needs to change and it ain't playing Valdez in center. Terrible lineup once again.

what is this "BA" you speak of?

oregonred
07-05-2012, 09:09 PM
what is this "BA" you speak of?

British Airways?

BA Baracus?

Bad Attitude?

cbowen2112
07-05-2012, 09:09 PM
what is this "BA" you speak of?

Rox lowest is .250. Good lord! Something has got to give.

cbowen2112
07-05-2012, 09:10 PM
British Airways?

BA Baracus?

Bad Attitude?

It is a mystical creature. A legend told to children far across the lands.

PuffyPig
07-05-2012, 09:28 PM
Could it also simply be lineup construction?

Do you seriously think if you simply reshuffle the order you will change .230 hitters into .290 hitters?

cbowen2112
07-05-2012, 09:33 PM
Do you seriously think if you simply reshuffle the order you will change .230 hitters into .290 hitters?

If you have people protected and in spots where they will see better pitches, yes. Confidence is also huge. Maybe .230 to .260 or .270 easily.

VR
07-05-2012, 09:33 PM
Harang and Volquez back to back.

Problem w/ Volky....are there any hitters besides JV in the lineup patient enough to expose his control issues?

oregonred
07-05-2012, 09:35 PM
This gem courtesy of reds44 in the main forum via Fay

Stubbs will likely be back be back in the lineup today. He’ll also likely be in the second spot, i.e, Baker is not considering doing him down in the lineup.

“He took off this year when I put him second,” Baker said. “You hope, during the course of the year, whoever I put in front of Joey (Votto) takes off. Like I keep saying it’s like putting your finger in the dike trying to re-arrange things.

“He’s one my one main speed threat. If you drop him down to seventh and he steals, they’ll walk the catcher to get to the pitcher.”


I don't even know where to begin with this Dusty-ism...

cbowen2112
07-05-2012, 09:38 PM
This gem courtesy of reds44 in the main forum via Fay

Stubbs will likely be back be back in the lineup today. He’ll also likely be in the second spot, i.e, Baker is not considering doing him down in the lineup.

“He took off this year when I put him second,” Baker said. “You hope, during the course of the year, whoever I put in front of Joey (Votto) takes off. Like I keep saying it’s like putting your finger in the dike trying to re-arrange things.

“He’s one my one main speed threat. If you drop him down to seventh and he steals, they’ll walk the catcher to get to the pitcher.”


I don't even know where to begin with this Dusty-ism...

So what does Dusty do to prevent that? Bat Valdez 2nd and put him in CF. That'll fix the offense. How about a new order!!!!!????!!!!! So frustrating.

Raisor
07-05-2012, 09:50 PM
I hate running people in front of Votto. They don't get on base in front of him as it is, caught stealings with him either up or do up makes me angry enough to write a strongly worded letter

OldXOhio
07-05-2012, 10:06 PM
Seeing Tony Gwynn for the first time since cancer diagnosis. Wish him well on his recovery but wow.

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:07 PM
Cozart strikes out swinging.

REDblooded
07-05-2012, 10:08 PM
Redleg Nation ‏@redlegnation

Edinson Volquez's first pitch is a ball. Not the first time I've tweeted that. ‪#reds

alloverjr
07-05-2012, 10:08 PM
This gem courtesy of reds44 in the main forum via Fay

Stubbs will likely be back be back in the lineup today. He’ll also likely be in the second spot, i.e, Baker is not considering doing him down in the lineup.

“He took off this year when I put him second,” Baker said. “You hope, during the course of the year, whoever I put in front of Joey (Votto) takes off. Like I keep saying it’s like putting your finger in the dike trying to re-arrange things.

“He’s one my one main speed threat. If you drop him down to seventh and he steals, they’ll walk the catcher to get to the pitcher.”


I don't even know where to begin with this Dusty-ism...

:lol:

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:10 PM
Infield hit for Valdez.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:11 PM
Joey Votto bats with a runner on. WHAAAT?!

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:11 PM
Valdez surpasses Stubbs' hit total for the month.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:12 PM
Valdez surpasses Stubbs' hit total for the month.:owned:

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:13 PM
Votto just tipped his cap to Volquez on that change, LOL.

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:14 PM
Votto grounds out to short. Valdez to 2nd.

Kc61
07-05-2012, 10:14 PM
I ain't tipping my hat to Volquez. No way, no how.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:14 PM
Votto grounds out, Valdez to 2nd.

Phillips up with 2 outs.

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:15 PM
I ain't tipping my hat to Volquez. No way, no how.
What if your hat was a little sideways?

Redhook
07-05-2012, 10:16 PM
Votto just tipped his cap to Volquez on that change, LOL.

That pitch was nasty. If he could get that over the plate with any sort of consistency, I'd then consider regretting he was traded.

Kc61
07-05-2012, 10:16 PM
What if your hat was a little sideways?

Doesn't count.

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:17 PM
Phillips walks. Everyone lost track of the count.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:17 PM
Wow. This shouldn't happen in a big league game.

Can't keep track of balls and strikes?

kbrake
07-05-2012, 10:18 PM
I think it was only 3 balls.

yab1112
07-05-2012, 10:18 PM
Anyone have a link to a completely legitimate, not at all illegal, feed of the game? :cool:

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:18 PM
Well I guess he didn't walk. I thought it was ball 4 already.

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:18 PM
Nothing like people who are paid to be umpires not knowing what the count is.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:19 PM
That WAS ball four.

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:19 PM
Now he walked for real.

WVRedsFan
07-05-2012, 10:20 PM
Gosh. Does Bruce need glasses?

Kc61
07-05-2012, 10:21 PM
Volquez with 30 pitches.

Tom Servo
07-05-2012, 10:22 PM
what the hell was that

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:22 PM
Jesus Christ.

Tom Servo
07-05-2012, 10:22 PM
:bash: :bash: :bash:

WVRedsFan
07-05-2012, 10:22 PM
Cluster. Totally uncalled for

alloverjr
07-05-2012, 10:22 PM
sweet

Cedric
07-05-2012, 10:23 PM
Brandon has about 3 or 4 major mental blunders a year. It happens.

WVRedsFan
07-05-2012, 10:23 PM
Who screwed up?

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:23 PM
On a 3-2 pitch you do that.

kbrake
07-05-2012, 10:23 PM
You've got to be kidding me.

OldXOhio
07-05-2012, 10:23 PM
Dear Lord guys take a few pitches. Classic EV out there.

Or get picked off. Way to bail him out.

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:23 PM
Who screwed up?
Phillips.

redsfaninbsg
07-05-2012, 10:23 PM
Unreal.

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:23 PM
Wow. What is going on. How to describe this. The Padres put on a shift. So Valdez attempts to steal 3rd. Volquez sees it and basically catches Phillips off base. Then for some unknown reason Valdez decides I will try for home and is out by a mile.

Kc61
07-05-2012, 10:24 PM
They put the shift on. Valdez saw third base was uncovered. He ran to third. Might have worked.

But Phillips got the idea he had to run too, from first. Throw went back to first, then a rundown ensued.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:24 PM
This one will make some highlights and not in a good way.

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:24 PM
Wow. What is going on. How to describe this. The Padres put on a shift. So Valdez attempts to steal 3rd. Volquez sees it and basically catches Phillips off base. Then for some unknown reason Valdez decides I will try for home and is out by a mile.
You have to try for home in that spot if you're Valdez. That was all on Phillips.

OldXOhio
07-05-2012, 10:24 PM
If you have people protected and in spots where they will see better pitches, yes. Confidence is also huge. Maybe .230 to .260 or .270 easily.


Then for some unknown reason Valdez decides I will try for home and is out by a mile.

Berry must've sent him

WVRedsFan
07-05-2012, 10:24 PM
This may be one of those games. I get power back to watch this?

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:25 PM
Yes the inital Valdez move was a good move. He would have easily had 3rd. Somehow Phillips got totally confused. He could have stayed put but he was like a deer in headlights between 1st and 2nd.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:25 PM
Curveball, juuuuust a bit high.

Kc61
07-05-2012, 10:25 PM
Yes the inital Valdez move was a good move. He would have easily had 3rd. Somehow Phillips got totally confused. He could have stayed put but he was like a deer in headlights between 1st and 2nd.

Agree. Phillips should have just stayed still on first. Valdez probably steals third.

edabbs44
07-05-2012, 10:25 PM
You have to try for home in that spot if you're Valdez. That was all on Phillips.

Yep. BP was dead to rights if Valdez doesnt go.

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:26 PM
Venable grounds out to 1st.

cbowen2112
07-05-2012, 10:26 PM
Valdez should have faked to home and stayed put. Phillips made the biggest blunder though. Ugh.

redsfaninbsg
07-05-2012, 10:26 PM
Valdez had third, that's all on BP.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:27 PM
Two quick outs.

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:27 PM
Amarista lines out to left.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:29 PM
K

3 down

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:29 PM
Headley strikes out swinging. 0-0 after 1.

elfmanvt07
07-05-2012, 10:29 PM
Where did that THIRD pitch miss?

redsfaninbsg
07-05-2012, 10:29 PM
Nice 12 pitch inning from Latos

redsfaninbsg
07-05-2012, 10:29 PM
Where did that THIRD pitch miss?

It didn't

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:29 PM
4.38 ERA

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:30 PM
Volquez at 31 pitches, Latos at 12.


Keep making EV work guys. He will labor if you let him.

elfmanvt07
07-05-2012, 10:30 PM
http://i.imgur.com/b2NFE.jpg

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:30 PM
Cards are up 6-0, btw.

redsfaninbsg
07-05-2012, 10:30 PM
4.38 ERA

Quickly coming down

alloverjr
07-05-2012, 10:30 PM
Does anyone know if George Grande made this road trip?

Tom Servo
07-05-2012, 10:31 PM
Does anyone know if George Grande made this road trip?
Thom and Chris in the booth.

alloverjr
07-05-2012, 10:32 PM
Thom and Chris in the booth.

I know. Shoulda' added the smiley like so :)

Kc61
07-05-2012, 10:33 PM
Volquez now with two consecutive full counts to Bruce in essentially the same at bat. Running mess up left Bruce at the plate, full count again.

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:33 PM
Valdez has went to a full count on every batter except one so far. He has done it to Bruce twice so far.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:34 PM
Full counts aplenty.

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:34 PM
Bruce walks.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:34 PM
Classic Volquez.

mbgrayson
07-05-2012, 10:34 PM
After the first five Reds hitters, Volquez has thrown 40 pitches!

Kc61
07-05-2012, 10:35 PM
Maybe Bruce should try and get in a rundown so Volquez' inning can go faster.

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:35 PM
Why would you go up there swinging at the first pitch? It's just not smart.

WVRedsFan
07-05-2012, 10:35 PM
I do not understand the plate philosophy of this team.

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:36 PM
Maybe Bruce should try and get in a rundown so Volquez' inning can go faster.
Bahahaha.

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:36 PM
Frazier grounds out to second on a ball off Volquez's glove. Runner to 2nd.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:36 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Frazier may have been safe?

mbgrayson
07-05-2012, 10:37 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Frazier may have been safe?

Nope.

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:37 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Frazier may have been safe?
Nope.

Tom Servo
07-05-2012, 10:37 PM
Hi-C does something!

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:37 PM
Heisey triples, 1-0 Reds

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:37 PM
Heisey triples to right center. 1-0 Reds.

WVRedsFan
07-05-2012, 10:38 PM
See? Bat him lower in the order. Simple.

Kc61
07-05-2012, 10:38 PM
550 foot triple in San Diego by Heisey.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:38 PM
Nope.Okay good. I thought I was going crazy because the geniuses in the booth said nary a word.

OldXOhio
07-05-2012, 10:38 PM
Lord the Petco outfield goes for miles.

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:38 PM
Throwing Heisey fastballs is not a good idea.

kbrake
07-05-2012, 10:38 PM
Holy hell that was good to see. A run. What a relief.

elfmanvt07
07-05-2012, 10:38 PM
550 foot triple in San Diego by Heisey.

Okay, that made me laugh.

Tom Servo
07-05-2012, 10:38 PM
c'mon Manigan

elfmanvt07
07-05-2012, 10:39 PM
http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/Chris-Cooper-9.jpg

Come on Hanigan!

Tony Cloninger
07-05-2012, 10:39 PM
Did Frazier actually swing at the 1st pitch? Volquez could not groove a pitch even if he wanted to.

Kc61
07-05-2012, 10:39 PM
Okay, that made me laugh.

Good. The Reds these days require comic relief.

Tom Servo
07-05-2012, 10:39 PM
Hanigan is scuffling badly.

WVRedsFan
07-05-2012, 10:40 PM
Poor AB by Hanigan

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:40 PM
I rewound and checked the Frazier play. It was very close but it looked like he may have been out by a half step.

Hanigan strikes out on 3 pitches.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:40 PM
The SD fans boo'd that guy on that effort to catch that ball? Wow, they suck.

Kc61
07-05-2012, 10:40 PM
Hanigan is scuffling badly.

Yes. Ryan needs an all star break. Or any kind of break.

REDblooded
07-05-2012, 10:40 PM
Poor AB by Hanigan


No need to give Mes the chance to get regular starts to find his groove though...

kaldaniels
07-05-2012, 10:41 PM
Hanny not gonna be the majority catcher for much longer...

OldXOhio
07-05-2012, 10:41 PM
Is there some rule in the Hanigan play book that mandates he K with less than 2 outs and a runner on third?

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:41 PM
LOL I do not miss Volquez. 3-0 count to Latos.

Kc61
07-05-2012, 10:41 PM
With the exception of Frazier, Reds have actually been patient tonight. I mean, if you don't wait out V, you don't wait out anybody. But most of them are doing it.

mbgrayson
07-05-2012, 10:41 PM
Padres announcer Dick Enberg on Volquez:
"It's almost like he can't throw a fastball right down the middle for a strike...."


Ding ding ding....

kbrake
07-05-2012, 10:42 PM
Hanny not gonna be the majority catcher for much longer...

Have to remember it usually takes Dusty 8 weeks to pick up on what everyone else is calling for.

kaldaniels
07-05-2012, 10:42 PM
Latos looking like a real hitter up there.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:42 PM
Latos is putting together a PA that shames Stubbs and half the other guys lately.

Kc61
07-05-2012, 10:42 PM
Is there some rule in the Hanigan play book that mandates he K with less than 2 outs and a runner on third?

He's been slumping for some time now. I don't know if he's worn down or what, but Ryan's had a tough time of it. He's better than this usually.

Hopefully he'll come back well in the second half, but tough stretch for Hanigan.

Tom Servo
07-05-2012, 10:42 PM
Latos looking like a real hitter up there.
Strikes out like a real Reds hitter.

redsfaninbsg
07-05-2012, 10:43 PM
Looked outside

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:43 PM
Latos strikes out looking on ball 4. 1-0 Reds mid 2nd.

WVRedsFan
07-05-2012, 10:43 PM
BS called strike

kaldaniels
07-05-2012, 10:43 PM
58 pitches thru 2?

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:43 PM
Latos:
Pitches thrown- 12
Pitches seen- 8

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:43 PM
58 pitches thru 2?Vintage Volquez

Reds/Flyers Fan
07-05-2012, 10:43 PM
Is it time for Mes to be getting more playing time over hanigan? That last at-bat was pitiful, against a hack pitcher who he knows has control issues. Bottom line is hanigan has been failing badly with RISP and less than two outs.

OldXOhio
07-05-2012, 10:43 PM
Hanny not gonna be the majority catcher for much longer...

Says who?

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:43 PM
57 pitches (34 strikes, 23 balls) for Volquez through 2.

redsfaninbsg
07-05-2012, 10:43 PM
Really need to get deep in the San Diego pen tonight.

Kc61
07-05-2012, 10:44 PM
Reds may solve their OBP problem in this game alone.

They'll lose 9-1 or something, but they will get some OBP.

Tom Servo
07-05-2012, 10:44 PM
He's been slumping for some time now. I don't know if he's worn down or what, but Ryan's had a tough time of it. He's better than this usually.

Hopefully he'll come back well in the second half, but tough stretch for Hanigan.
The thing is, Hanigan always goes through these stretches. His worst one, as I recall, was when Razor Ramon was injured in 2010 and he was playing about everyday. Hanigan is a really good catcher...but not one who you can expect to hit consistently for the entire year when getting so many at-bats.

Cedric
07-05-2012, 10:44 PM
Is it time for Mes to be getting more playing time over hanigan? That last at-bat was pitiful, against a hack pitcher who he knows has control issues. Bottom line is hanigan has been failing badly with RISP and less than two outs.

Solid player but the worst bat speed of any regular player I can remember. He makes the most out of basically zero physical tools.

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:44 PM
So what happened to Volquez? Was his first year in Cincy just luck? Did he need to HGH? Never got back to from after his arm fell off? Baseball Gods don't like how he wears his hat?

Tony Cloninger
07-05-2012, 10:45 PM
I think Dusty is bored......he will probably tell the hitters to start doing something next inning.

mbgrayson
07-05-2012, 10:45 PM
Hanny not gonna be the majority catcher for much longer...

I agree. If Dusty likes to keep each pitcher with their own personal catcher, all he needs to do is switch Mes in for Hanigan on one of Latos, Cueto, or Arroyo.

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:46 PM
Quentin pops out to short.

kaldaniels
07-05-2012, 10:46 PM
So what happened to Volquez? Was his first year in Cincy just luck? Did he need to HGH? Never got back to from after his arm fell off? Baseball Gods don't like how he wears his hat?

I always have felt he wiggled out of a lot of jams that first half.

BCubb2003
07-05-2012, 10:47 PM
I wish all sports were played on irregularly sized and shaped fields. "Cleveland will have a hard time adjusting to Boston's 11-foot rims ..."

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:47 PM
Grandal flies out to left.

elfmanvt07
07-05-2012, 10:47 PM
Latos looks GOOD.

Kc61
07-05-2012, 10:47 PM
.649 OPS against righties for Hanigan this year. .812 OPS against lefties, although small sample size against LHP.

I believe (without checking) that Ryan had his problems with RHP last year too.

Yonder Alonso coming up. Can he play LF do you think?

OldXOhio
07-05-2012, 10:48 PM
.649 OBP is a problem? ;)

Kc61
07-05-2012, 10:49 PM
.649 OBP is a problem? ;)

OPS, sorry.

mbgrayson
07-05-2012, 10:49 PM
.649 OBP against righties for Hanigan this year. .812 OPS against lefties, although small sample size against LHP.


You mean .649 OPS....

Kc61
07-05-2012, 10:49 PM
You mean .649 OPS....

I corrected the error, sorry. OPS.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:49 PM
Why were they pitching so carefully to Alonso?

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:50 PM
Gotta love Yonder's approach at the plate.

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:50 PM
Alonso walks.

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:50 PM
Maybin singles to left. 1st and 2nd.

kbrake
07-05-2012, 10:51 PM
Gotta love Yonder's approach at the plate.

That is why Dusty pushed to get rid of him. Was afraid he would corrupt the rest of the guys.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:52 PM
Latos suddenly cant find the zone.

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:52 PM
It seems like Latos is always getting squeezed.

Kc61
07-05-2012, 10:52 PM
Latos suddenly cant find the zone.

One of those spots, if he walks him, he walks him. V up next.

OldXOhio
07-05-2012, 10:52 PM
One nasty curve after another

edabbs44
07-05-2012, 10:53 PM
It seems like Latos is always getting squeezed.

Dallas or Mat?

Tom Servo
07-05-2012, 10:53 PM
Latos suddenly cant find the zone.
found it there

elfmanvt07
07-05-2012, 10:53 PM
Dallas or Mat?

Woof.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:53 PM
One of those spots, if he walks him, he walks him. V up next.I was mainly going for the reverse jinx. :)

As soon as I comment on something, the opposite becomes true.

K. worked like a charm!

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:53 PM
Cabrera strikes out looking. 2 Ks for Latos. 1-0 Reds after 2.

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:54 PM
Cabrera strikes out looking. 2 Ks for Latos. 1-0 Reds after 2.
HEY HEY

RedlegJake
07-05-2012, 10:54 PM
Cabrera better be careful how long he stares at the ump or he might be watching the game

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:55 PM
Woof.Buzz! Your girlfriend!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sfCRJ4n1qjA/T14f9UwTbVI/AAAAAAAABN8/9LB_JeIqJWw/s1600/buzz+your+girlfriend+woof.jpg

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:56 PM
Cozart hit it hard but grounds out to 3rd.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:56 PM
Seriously Cozart?

2 pitches.

RedlegJake
07-05-2012, 10:56 PM
They won't even work it when it's a known ball thrower

fearofpopvol1
07-05-2012, 10:56 PM
Volquez had 58 pitches and you swing at the 1st one??

WVRedsFan
07-05-2012, 10:56 PM
Why would you swing early against EV?

elfmanvt07
07-05-2012, 10:57 PM
There was exactly zero wrong with Cozart swinging at that. Hit put good wood on it.

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:57 PM
Valdez strikes out swinging.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:57 PM
Valdez gone in three pitches.

So much for making him labor.

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:57 PM
Yeah, not sure how you get on Cozart for that.

Tom Servo
07-05-2012, 10:57 PM
There was exactly zero wrong with Cozart swinging at that. Hit put good wood on it.
Agreed. I'm tired of Cozart hitting leadoff and making outs, but he was right to swing at that.

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:57 PM
Valdez gone in three pitches.

So much for making him labor.
He's thrown 60 pitches already!

RedlegJake
07-05-2012, 10:58 PM
Not so much on Zach himself as the team as a whole - they all do it and the guy on the mound has awful problems finding the zone

reds44
07-05-2012, 10:58 PM
Bill Walton in the booth. Looks stoned. Tony Gwynn isn't missing many meals.

WVRedsFan
07-05-2012, 10:58 PM
Yeah, not sure how you get on Cozart for that.

Wasn't criticizing Zach, just wondering, but now he's throwing strikes.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:58 PM
He's thrown 60 pitches already!Which is exactly why you keep putting the screws to him.

An easy inning is the last thing they need to give him.

WVRedsFan
07-05-2012, 10:58 PM
Which is exactly why you keep putting the screws to him.

An easy inning is the last thing they need to give him.

But they are

mbgrayson
07-05-2012, 10:58 PM
That longer 2nd by Latos gave EV a chance to rest up, and get his act together a bit.

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 10:59 PM
Votto grounds out to short. 1-0 Reds mid 3rd.

Tony Cloninger
07-05-2012, 10:59 PM
Not so much on Zach himself as the team as a whole - they all do it and the guy on the mound has awful problems finding the zone

They had been working him........but I said Dusty would get bored and tell them to start doing something.

I think he is also starting to throw strikes now too.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 10:59 PM
Not so much on Zach himself as the team as a whole - they all do it and the guy on the mound has awful problems finding the zoneYea, that's more what I was getting at too.

It's not Cozart, it's everyone. It was just Cozart that time.

Chip R
07-05-2012, 11:00 PM
Bill Walton in the booth. Looks stoned. Tony Gwynn isn't missing many meals.

Would have been interesting to hear his comment about that double steal SNAFU in the 1st.

Kc61
07-05-2012, 11:00 PM
Until that inning, Reds were patient.

Maybe the Reds figure they've scored their run for the night, why drag things out.

Sorry.

reds44
07-05-2012, 11:01 PM
Or maybe Volquez was throwing strikes that inning?

Chip R
07-05-2012, 11:02 PM
Or maybe Volquez was throwing strikes that inning?

:lol:

Good one!

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 11:02 PM
Volquez strikes out on 3 pitches. 3 Ks for Latos.

reds44
07-05-2012, 11:02 PM
Good effort from EV in that at bat lol

RedlegJake
07-05-2012, 11:02 PM
Or maybe I'm just cranky because these announcers are so lousy - boy the Dodgers spoiled me. Scully is good. These guys are homers. Big time.

WVRedsFan
07-05-2012, 11:03 PM
It's like a nightmare seeing Volquez pitch again. He somehow gets the job done in SD, but it is hard to watch.

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 11:04 PM
Venable strikes out looking. 4 Ks for Latos.

RedlegJake
07-05-2012, 11:04 PM
KKKK - Latos is getting some calls now

reds44
07-05-2012, 11:04 PM
That was dirty.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 11:04 PM
I may have to duck out for a few gents.

I have acquired physical video evidence of Chris Carpenter's street fighting skills. It will not disappoint, I promise.

WVRedsFan
07-05-2012, 11:05 PM
Which gents are you leaving for?

wheels
07-05-2012, 11:05 PM
That ball girl...best ever?

RedlegJake
07-05-2012, 11:05 PM
Hire that ball girl!!!! Holy Cow! My heart just overheated. Glad Ms Nucklefuster isn't here

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 11:05 PM
Amarista singles to center.

reds44
07-05-2012, 11:06 PM
That ball girl...best ever?
Hahahahahaha. Reminds me of the 19 inning game in Philly last year.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 11:06 PM
Why can't The Reds have ballgirls? Sure would beat the awkward ballboys they have now.

reds44
07-05-2012, 11:06 PM
Why can't The Reds have ballgirls? Sure would beat the awkward ballboys they have now.
We have cheerleaders. And FSN girls.

RedlegJake
07-05-2012, 11:06 PM
I turned the volume. Can't stand listening to Walton...

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 11:07 PM
Amarista steals 2nd.

The Operator
07-05-2012, 11:07 PM
We have cheerleaders. And FSN girls.It's not enough. I need more estrogen on the field.

wheels
07-05-2012, 11:07 PM
More foul balls down the third base line, please.

RedlegJake
07-05-2012, 11:08 PM
Gwynn looks lie he's frustrated with Walton in the booth, too.

Chip R
07-05-2012, 11:08 PM
It's not enough. I need more estrogen on the field.

We could get Volquez back. Maybe he's still using that stuff he got banned for that's a fertility drug for women.

wheels
07-05-2012, 11:08 PM
We could get Volquez back. Maybe he's still using that stuff he got banned for that's a fertility drug for women.

Winner!:lol:

The Operator
07-05-2012, 11:08 PM
We could get Volquez back. Maybe he's still using that stuff he got banned for that's a fertility drug for women.BOOM.

Well played, sir.

Reds/Flyers Fan
07-05-2012, 11:09 PM
That ball girl...best ever?

Unreal. Everyone in the bar here in Centerville made some sort of comment. Why do we have pimply faced teen boys instead of ball girls?

reds44
07-05-2012, 11:09 PM
More foul balls down the third base line, please.
Fantastic lol

OldXOhio
07-05-2012, 11:09 PM
Bill Walton, the thing that wouldnt leave.

RedlegJake
07-05-2012, 11:10 PM
Latos looking good but not as sharp as the last 2 outings.

reds44
07-05-2012, 11:10 PM
I'm pretty sure the ump just forgot the count again.

Kc61
07-05-2012, 11:10 PM
Bill Walton, the thing that wouldnt leave.

Had an unbelievable game in the NCAA finals.

Tom Servo
07-05-2012, 11:10 PM
that pitch was nasty

RedlegJake
07-05-2012, 11:10 PM
KKKKK - nasty!!!

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 11:11 PM
Headley strikes out looking. 5 Ks for Latos. 1-0 Reds after 3.

reds44
07-05-2012, 11:11 PM
So much for Latos getting squeezed lol

Tom Servo
07-05-2012, 11:11 PM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1104/franchise-relocations/images/clippers-bill-walton.jpg

The Operator
07-05-2012, 11:11 PM
Latos is on a roll.

If The Reds make the playoffs, he's gonna be a big part of why they do.

reds44
07-05-2012, 11:11 PM
4.29 ERA. 44 pitches.

RedlegJake
07-05-2012, 11:12 PM
If the Reds make the playoffs they REALLY need this version of Latos

Chip R
07-05-2012, 11:12 PM
Having a little problem with that ump's strike calls. Tough to tell if they are balls or strikes sometimes.

reds44
07-05-2012, 11:13 PM
Dallas Latos or the ball girl?

EDIT: Gotta add Frazier's wife in there

WVRedsFan
07-05-2012, 11:13 PM
Unreal. Everyone in the bar here in Centerville made some sort of comment. Why do we have pimply faced teen boys instead of ball girls?

Midwest, conservative, Republican values. It's a family thing. But I want ball girls :)

Reds Fanatic
07-05-2012, 11:14 PM
Phillips singles to right.

wheels
07-05-2012, 11:14 PM
Ball girl. Hands down. Dallas is kinda trashy.