July 6th, 2012- Reds @ Padres

[Plus Plus]

Cozart 6, Stubbs 8, Votto 3, Phillips 4, Bruce 9, Ludwick 7, Frazier 5, Hanigan 2, Arroyo RHP

The out factory is back in business!

[CySeymour]

Not shocked, but I still shake my head.

[pedro]

There isn't a way to shuffle those deck chairs that's really going to make a big difference. The fact is the Reds need more players who make less outs. Barring that this offense is going to continue to be incredibly frustrating.

[cbowen2112]

Sure there is: Phillips batting 1st is a start. Or anything where the two worst hitters are not hitting in front of the team's best.

[Plus Plus]

Cozart and Stubbs are the top two outmakers on the team. While a lot of the players make a lot of outs, putting literally the two kings of that castle at the top of the lineup is absurd.

[pedro]

I'm perfectly fine with the idea of Phillips batting lead off but regardless of where anybody is hitting when you have 3-4 guys in the lineup struggling to OBP .300 the marginal value of where they hit isn't going to make all that much difference aside from making us feel better.

[Plus Plus]

I tend to think that Frazier's .335 OBP would be nice in the 2-hole.

[757690]

There isn't a way to shuffle those deck chairs that's really going to make a big difference. The fact is the Reds need more players who make less outs. Barring that this offense is going to continue to be incredibly frustrating.

Yep, short of having Phillips, Bruce and Votto bat 1-2-3, changes in the lineup aren't going to have much effect.

[pedro]

To be clear, if it was up to me Stubbs and Cozart would be batting 7 & 8....

[cbowen2112]

Root, root, root for the Giants this weekend. And marlins while we're at it.

[powersackers]

I dont drink alcohol. Thinking about starting.

[RedlegJake]

I disagree there would ne effect from having BP 1st Frazier 2nd then Votto Ludwick and Bruce. You're replacing 2 abysmal OBP with 2 guys with decent OBPs. That alone would make a big difference.

[RedlegJake]

Pirates are trailing in 4th 5-3 but they are threatening with guys 1 and 3rd. Zito gets out of it nothing scoring. Bedard's already been knocked out by the Giants. Pirates pen is in the game.

[pedro]

I disagree there would ne effect from having BP 1st Frazier 2nd then Votto Ludwick and Bruce. You're replacing 2 abysmal OBP with 2 guys with decent OBPs. That alone would make a big difference.

I'm not saying there'd be no effect. I'm just saying that sufficient studies have been done to indicate that the cumulative effect of shuffling the batting order is marginal. That argument sailed ten years ago. If the Reds want to make a real difference they need to replace some of the players they are currently running out there. Anybody who thinks that the Reds are going to substantially increase the number of runs they are scoring by juggling the current players in rotation is fooling themselves.

TMBS, I'm sick of seeing Stubbs and and Cozart at the top of the lineup too...

[Always Red]

I dont drink alcohol. Thinking about starting.

I do, and have a head start.

[Hoosier Red]

I disagree there would ne effect from having BP 1st Frazier 2nd then Votto Ludwick and Bruce. You're replacing 2 abysmal OBP with 2 guys with decent OBPs. That alone would make a big difference.

Until you got through the next 5 batters.

Over the course of 300 PA, having Phillips and Frazier(at their current OBP) over Stubbs and Cozart(at their current OBP) would have produced roughly 25 more times on base.

Do you really think we'd notice a tremendous difference in getting an extra base runner in front of Votto every 3 games?

That's not to say it shouldn't be done, but I don't think we'd really see a noticeable difference.

[cbowen2112]

Pirates are trailing in 4th 5-3 but they are threatening with guys 1 and 3rd. Zito gets out of it nothing scoring. Bedard's already been knocked out by the Giants. Pirates pen is in the game.

I think pirates will go after a starter by the deadline. And now 5-4 after a HR by Casey McGhee

[RedlegJake]

Until you got through the next 5 batters.

Over the course of 300 PA, having Phillips and Frazier(at their current OBP) over Stubbs and Cozart(at their current OBP) would have produced roughly 25 more times on base.

Do you really think we'd notice a tremendous difference in getting an extra base runner in front of Votto every 3 games?

That's not to say it shouldn't be done, but I don't think we'd really see a noticeable difference.

I know what you're saying but I'd notice a difference darn it. Man I am SICK of seeing 2 automatic outs start every game.

[RedlegJake]

Pirates with 23 come from behind wins 2nd only to Miami this year so far (another sign things might not continue to hold so well for them). Brad Penny sighting in Giants bullpen. Giants add 1 in 7th 6-4 mid 7.

[reds44]

I do, and have a head start.
I'm passing on the game tonight in order to get bombed. Last night's game thread was a lot of fun, though.

[edabbs44]

I'm not saying there'd be no effect. I'm just saying that sufficient studies have been done to indicate that the cumulative effect of shuffling the batting order is marginal. That argument sailed ten years ago. If the Reds want to make a real difference they need to replace some of the players they are currently running out there. Anybody who thinks that the Reds are going to substantially increase the number of runs they are scoring by juggling the current players in rotation is fooling themselves.

TMBS, I'm sick of seeing Stubbs and and Cozart at the top of the lineup too...

Agree.

[RedlegJake]

Bottom on 9th 6-5 Giants.

[RedlegJake]

Cozart!

[Tom Servo]

Cozart! :jump:

[Reds Fanatic]

Leadoff homer for Cozart. 1-0 Reds.

[Degenerate39]

Should've been ball 4 luckily it wasn't because Cozart homers on the next pitch

[Tom Servo]

0-29

[RedlegJake]

0-29. 17 from the record

[Reds Fanatic]

Stubbs strikes out swinging. 0 for 29.

[Degenerate39]

Can Stubbs be sent to Triple A?

[Tom Servo]

Can Stubbs be sent to Triple A?
We can't even get him sent to the bottom half of the lineup.

[HotCorner]

Why no bunt attempt? If you're struggling this badly do anything.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

[Tom Servo]

Joey just doesn't seem himself since the knee inflammation flared up.

[RedlegJake]

Pirates lose 6-5

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips grounds out to 3rd. 1-0 Reds mid 1st.

[Raisor]

I'm not saying there'd be no effect. I'm just saying that sufficient studies have been done to indicate that the cumulative effect of shuffling the batting order is marginal. That argument sailed ten years ago. If the Reds want to make a real difference they need to replace some of the players they are currently running out there. Anybody who thinks that the Reds are going to substantially increase the number of runs they are scoring by juggling the current players in rotation is fooling themselves.

TMBS, I'm sick of seeing Stubbs and and Cozart at the top of the lineup too...

Even if its just a run or two more every few games its worth it.

Phillips, Bruce, Votto, Frazier, Ludwick, etc

[Reds Fanatic]

Amarista flies out to left.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kotsay flies out to left. 2 outs.

[*BaseClogger*]

Opponents continue to stack their lineups with 7, 8 lefties when they face Latos and Arroyo.

The Reds still have but 2 lefties on their entire roster...

[757690]

Even if its just a run or two more every few games its worth it.

Phillips, Bruce, Votto, Frazier, Ludwick, etc

I know you know this, but that helps, not because of lineup construction, but because the best hitters get more AB's. 50-100 AB's a season for Phillps, Bruce and Votto would be a big help.

[Reds Fanatic]

Headley strikes out swinging. 1-0 Reds after 1.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce grounds out to Headley playing the shift near 2nd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Infield hit for Ludwick

[WVRedsFan]

First pitch hitting

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier flies out to right. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hanigan singles to left. 1st and 2nd.

[Tom Servo]

First pitch hitting
Hanigan first pitch hitting too. Sharp single to left.

[WVRedsFan]

Well, we at least got to the pitcher's spot. Too bad a poor at bat from Frazier.

[Tom Servo]

#WilyMo

[Reds Fanatic]

Arroyo flies out to center. 1-0 Reds mid 2nd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Quentin flies out to center.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gramdal singles to right.

[Tom Servo]

wat

[WVRedsFan]

What was that?

[Reds Fanatic]

That was strange. Looked like an easy DP but Phillips was late getting over so Cozart had to run to 2nd to get the force.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Ummm...did Cozart even touch 2nd?

[Reds Fanatic]

There is something just strangely off about this team in the last few days. They are messing up simple routine plays. It is like this team is just totally distracted.

[OesterPoster]

There is something just strangely off about this team in the last few days. They are messing up simple routine plays. It is like this team is just totally distracted.

California girls?

[Reds Fanatic]

Venable grounds out to Arroyo. 1-0 Reds after 2.

[_Sir_Charles_]

There is something just strangely off about this team in the last few days. They are messing up simple routine plays. It is like this team is just totally distracted.

Well, on that one there was a reason. Phillips was playing WAAAAY off the bag there. Cozart didn't think Brandon would get to the bag on time but as they got closer...confusion set in.

I saw the replay a couple of times and never could tell if Zack actually touched 2nd though. One of those area-code outs I guess.

[Reds Fanatic]

Leadoff 4 pitch walk to Cozart.

[WebScorpion]

Gameday lists Kip Wells out pitch as "N/A". :ughmamoru:

[_Sir_Charles_]

SAN DIEGO — Brandon Phillips and Reds manager Dusty Baker had a long closed-door meeting before Friday’s game. The subject of those meetings is always confidential.

But it’s clear that Phillips is willing to go back to the leadoff spot.

“I’d love that,” Phillips said. “I just feel like I have more fun hitting leadoff. I feel can play my game all the way and go out and have a good year like I did last year.”

The preseason plan was for Phillips to leadoff. But Scott Rolen’s injuries and struggles forced Phillips back into the cleanup.

“I went into this offseason thinking I was going to be a leadoff man,” Phillips said. “I thought I’d be stealing more bases and doing the things I was doing the second half last year. I really thought that was going to happen. Things didn’t turn out that way.

“You do what’s best for the team instead of what’s best for yourself.”


Baker has thought about moving Phillips to No. 1 in lineup. The question? Who hits cleanup then?

“I thought about it,” Baker said. “We might put Ludwick in that situation. Brandon’s moved more than anybody I’ve ever seen in any lineup I’ve had. I don’t think I’ve ever had a player with ability to bat cleanup one day and leadoff the next day.

“It’s a finger-in-the-dike situation. It only became prevalent three days ago, the last two games in L.A. and the first one here. Brandon’s been our second most productive hitter with runners in scoring position. We’ve got to replace that, too.”

[Tom Servo]

why

[_Sir_Charles_]

Wow. Cozart picked off first by Yasmani.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cozart is picked off. The baserunning has just been awful this series.

[WebScorpion]

That's not how you win championships... :(

[RedlegJake]

yeah, Grandal won't stick at catcher....

[WVRedsFan]

What is wrong with the concentration on this team? This is Kip Wells.

[Reds Fanatic]

What is wrong with the concentration on this team? This is Kip Wells.

The team is acting like the all star break has already started. Just totally out of it.

Stubbs strikes out looking. 0 for 30.

[Tom Servo]

0-30

[_Sir_Charles_]

Looked like a ball....but close enough to protect the plate.

[RedlegJake]

2 years out and Kip Wells come back from the planet Krypton....

[_Sir_Charles_]

Joey swinging out of his shoes on that one.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto walks.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips pops out to 2nd. 1-0 Reds mid 3rd.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Phillips was pissed he missed that one.

[reds44]

Must make 1 stand up.

[Patrick Bateman]

What's Dusty's obsession with using the word "dike" in quotes?

[Reds Fanatic]

Cabrera grounds out to 1st.

[Tom Servo]

What's Dusty's obsession with using the word "dike" in quotes?
Dusty's daughter has never been the same since having her heart broken by Corey Patterson? :dunno:

[Reds Fanatic]

Wells strikes out swinging. 2 Ks for Arroyo.

[OesterPoster]

What's Dusty's obsession with using the word "dike" in quotes?

He once was a carpet salesman?

[Reds Fanatic]

Amarista grounds out to 2nd. 1-0 Reds after 3.

[RedlegJake]

Dusty's daughter has never been the same since having her heart broken by Corey Patterson? :dunno:

That was mean

That was funny

Does it say something terrible about me that I so often find #2 follows #1?

[reds44]

Reds offense doesnt seem so bad while drinking heavily

[klw]

Reds offense doesnt seem so bad while drinking heavily

Well they should start drinking during the games more often, bring in Kevin Millar and Johnny Damon.

[reds44]

Well they should start drinking during the games more often, bring in Kevin Millar and Johnny Damon.
I told Beckett to bring the fried chicken

[Kc61]

Just joining the thread and the game.

I see that the Reds have their run already. Too bad I missed it.

Just have to tip your hat to Kip Wells.

[_Sir_Charles_]

That was hilarious! Bruce's foul ball hits right next to a woman holding a sign
"I'd leave him --->
For Jay Bruce!" pointing next to her hubby.

Classic

[Kc61]

Bruce flies out. He fouled off ball four and flied out on ball five.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce flies out to the track in left.

[RedlegJake]

Boy this Kip Wells guy is good.....

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[Kc61]

Actually, I thought Kip Wells pitched some good games when he was with the Reds for a short while.

[reds44]

Tip your hat!

[RedlegJake]

Tip your hat!

This is the kind of guy I get tired of tippin' it to

[Reds Fanatic]

Ludwick strikes out swinging.

[klw]

Odd prediction of the night- Bruce to get two hits tonight and at least one will be for extra bases.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Frazier with a rope to left

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier singles to left.

[Tom Servo]

Frazier with a rope to left
First pitch, no less. Where's the outrage!?

[reds44]

First pitch, no less. Where's the outrage!?
2nd pitch sir.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Ump giving Wells that inside edge pretty regularly. Those are out of the zone. Ryan's got a legit beef.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hanigan grounds out. 1-0 Reds mid 4th.

[klw]

First pitch, no less. Where's the outrage!?

Well it was the 2nd pitch and with a pitcher at 75 pitches in the 4th and being wild they really should be scolded for swinging before there is a called strike unless it was a total meatball.

[WVRedsFan]

Well it was the 2nd pitch and with a pitcher at 75 pitches in the 4th and being wild they really should be scolded for swinging before there is a called strike unless it was a total meatball.

Thank you.

[The Operator]

I can't watch the game tonight, but it looks by the box score that the Reds are being shut down by KIP WELLS.

Is it as bad as it appears on the box?

[reds44]

I can't watch the game tonight, but it looks by the box score that the Reds are being shut down by KIP WELLS.

Is it as bad as it appears on the box?
Yes, it is.

[The Operator]

Yes, it is.If Walt doesn't get the message now, he never will. This is getting embarrassing.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kotsay foulds out to 3rd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Headley strikes out swinging. 3 Ks for Arroyo.

[Kc61]

48 pitches for Bronson so far.

[_Sir_Charles_]

KKKK

[Reds Fanatic]

Quentin strikes out. 4 Ks for Arroyo. 1-0 Reds after 4

[Kc61]

Drew Stubbs bats third next inning. Going for 31.

Has Drew been on base at all during the 30 hitless at bats?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Drew Stubbs bats third next inning. Going for 31.

Has Drew been on base at all during the 30 hitless at bats?

Yes, but not in the past 4 or 5 games.

[mdccclxix]

Sign that kid up

[Reds Fanatic]

Drew Stubbs bats third next inning. Going for 31.

Has Drew been on base at all during the 30 hitless at bats?

The only time recently I can remember is the game against the Dodgers where he bunted right back to the pitcher who then threw the ball away.

[Reds Fanatic]

Arroyo singles to center.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Bronson with a leadoff single.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cozart grounds out to short. Arroyo to 2nd. 1 out.

[Tom Servo]

lol

[RedlegJake]

Stubbs line drive and double Arroyo off 2nd. Boy. 0-31.

[Reds Fanatic]

Well he hit it hard that time but lines into a 5-4 DP. 1-0 Reds mid 5th. 0 for 31.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Snake bit. Stubbs with a smash but right at the 3rd baseman. Bronson doubled up.

[cbowen2112]

Unlucky Drew

[elfmanvt07]

Wow. I honestly feel bad for Drew. What does he have to do?

[Kc61]

Drew is getting closer. By early fall, I think one of those is going to get through.

[Kc61]

Wow. I honestly feel bad for Drew. What does he have to do?

Hit.

[elfmanvt07]

Hit.

Easy to say from an office chair.

[RedlegJake]

Bad call! Replay shows ball hit the dirt. Headley sold it and the ump bought it.

[Tom Servo]

I really hope everybody who voted "yes" is trolling and knows how god-awful that suit it.

[Kc61]

Easy to say from an office chair.

Other major leaguers seem to do it. It's what Drew is supposed to do.

He's a baseball player, last I heard.

Meanwhile, the Reds got jobbed there because Drew's line drive was trapped.

[WebScorpion]

I think Stubbs may have a chance to be the first player in the history of MLB to break out of a slump while on the bench...we should let him try it. :thumbup:

[cbowen2112]

Wow, what a bad call...just terrible. Joey should have had an at bat there.

[Reds Fanatic]

Grandal strikes out looking. 5 Ks for Arroyo.

[elfmanvt07]

That's called a catch all the time.

[cbowen2112]

Nice backwards K there...

[Raisor]

I am going to make the most daring prediction of all time. Someday, some how, Stubbs will get at least one more hit in his major league career.

[Reds Fanatic]

Alonso walks

[cbowen2112]

That last ball was strike 2

[Kc61]

I am going to make the most daring prediction of all time. Someday, some how, Stubbs will get at least one more hit in his major league career.

Agree. I think 0 for 50 would get him some national attention though. That's doable.

[RedlegJake]

Umps are better than ever but umps in 1961 when I was a kid didn't have clear as a bell close ups on every computer screen of every fan right there either....clamor for replay if you like but don't blame the umps - there's as good as it is possible to be on the close ones.

Just my opinion.

[Reds Fanatic]

Venable singles to left. 1st and 2nd.

[Kc61]

Nice piece of hitting by Venable. Behind in the count, Opposite field hard grounder right in the hole.

[RedlegJake]

Counsell's 0 for 45 right now and hasn't gotten any press over it (one off the record)

[_Sir_Charles_]

Umps are better than ever but umps in 1961 when I was a kid didn't have clear as a bell close ups on every computer screen of every fan right there either....clamor for replay if you like but don't blame the umps - there's as good as it is possible to be on the close ones.

Just my opinion.

agreed. And even on the replay...I sure couldn't tell if it hit the ground. It was closer than I thought, but certainly not clear enough for a "what a horrible call!!!" kind of comment.

[Kc61]

Counsell's 0 for 45 right now and hasn't gotten any press over it (one off the record)

Yeah, I think 0 for 50 might start getting attention.

[cbowen2112]

I would really like for the Reds to score a few runs...K thanks.

[cbowen2112]

Who here is glad it is not the 7th-9th innings?

[_Sir_Charles_]

KKKKKK

[Reds Fanatic]

Cabrera strikes out swinging. 6 Ks. 2 outs.

[alloverjr]

I wonder what the Reds record is for most consecutive games scoring exactly 1 run. Looking at 4 in a row right now if someone doesn't hit a HR.

[cbowen2112]

Please don't get cute here.

[RedlegJake]

Arroyo looking like the "can't break a glass but I can put the ball right in the damn thing" type of pitcher he needs to be to keep the good fathers scoreless.

[cbowen2112]

Yippee!

[Reds Fanatic]

Wells flies out to center. 1-0 Reds after5.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Arroyo looking like the "can't break a glass but I can put the ball right in the damn thing" type of pitcher he needs to be to keep the good fathers scoreless.

:laugh: Nice. I'm stealing that one. Hope you don't mind.

[RedlegJake]

I wonder what the Reds record is for most consecutive games scoring exactly 1 run. Looking at 4 in a row right now if someone doesn't hit a HR.

I'll bet its a bunch - they've had some really, really bad offensive teams in their history.

[RedlegJake]

:laugh: Nice. I'm stealing that one. Hope you don't mind.

Not mine to take good sir - I believe it was Eppa Rixey talking about Slim Sallee

[Kc61]

Arroyo looking like the "can't break a glass but I can put the ball right in the damn thing" type of pitcher he needs to be to keep the good fathers scoreless.

Issue for Bronson is always how deep into the game he can go and remain effective. He's pitched very well this year, but the late innings are an issue.

Dusty tends to leave Bronson in too long, and won't llkely pull him if he's got a shutout.

So it would be good to give Arroyo a little cushion.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto lines a single to left.

[Tom Servo]

I don't want to know any more about Marty's foursome.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Votto...that guy seems to be a keeper.

[RedlegJake]

Joey, walk, hit, and he's in a slump....for him....

[WebScorpion]

Wells flies out to center. 1-0 Reds after5.That actually scared me for a sec. It looked like Wells hit that on the nose with everything he had and he stood up and watched it. Stubbs had to go back for it but only because he was playing so short...he didn't even get close to the warning track. :dunno:

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips frustrated again as he pops out to 2nd.

[WVRedsFan]

Phillips. The ultimate cleanup hitter.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Man! Brandon is REALLY mad at himself. Slammed the bat down again.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce flies out to left.

[alloverjr]

Phillips trying to make his case to get out of the 4 hole

[mdccclxix]

What is this new game of pepper Bruce plays with the left fielder? Will anything come from this development? He really doesn't drive the ball that way.

[Reds Fanatic]

Broken bat pop out to 2nd by Ludwick. 1-0 Reds mid 6th.

[cbowen2112]

What is this new game of pepper Bruce plays with the left fielder? Will anything come from this development? He really doesn't drive the ball that way.

He is trying to get his spray chart to say left field, so they stop the stupid shift (that works).

[cbowen2112]

Kip Wells just made our 4-6 hitters look foolish...

[alloverjr]

Kip Wells... I'm glad the whole organization is out there right now -at least I hope they're watching some of the game.

[Kc61]

What is this new game of pepper Bruce plays with the left fielder? Will anything come from this development? He really doesn't drive the ball that way.

This is not the kind of stadium for Jay Bruce. He hits too many fly balls. They die in San Diego.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Cards lost tonight too.

[mdccclxix]

He is trying to get his spray chart to say left field, so they stop the stupid shift (that works).

They can keep the shift and just make sure the LF stays ready for a lazy line drive.

[Reds Fanatic]

Amarista grounds out to 1st.

[cbowen2112]

They can keep the shift and just make sure the LF stays ready for a lazy line drive.

He hopes that some start landing is what I meant...

[WVRedsFan]

Kip Wells just made our 4-6 hitters look foolish...

3-16 tonight. Bottom 3 are 3-6.

[redsfaninbsg]

When this offense finally gets it going, man will it be scary for the rest of the NL

[WebScorpion]

The team we can only score one run against was 28-50 last week. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-ashamed001.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[WVRedsFan]

Ludwick can field.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice running catch by Ludwick

[WVRedsFan]

Bronson on a roll. Two hitter going

[Reds Fanatic]

Headley grounds out to 2nd. 8 pitch inning. 1-0 Reds after 6.

[WVRedsFan]

Now only if we could score.

[Reds Fanatic]

81 pitches for Arroyo

[_Sir_Charles_]

The team we can only score one run against was 28-50 last week. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-ashamed001.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

And playing good ball. They've won 6 in a row now with last night's win.

[cbowen2112]

And playing good ball. They've won 6 in a row now with last night's win.

This...bad luck got us.

[WebScorpion]

And playing good ball. They've won 6 in a row now with last night's win.They're definitely making fewer mental errors than the Reds so far.

[WVRedsFan]

Good teams are supposed to take care of business against inferior competition regardless of how well the inferior team is playing.

[cbowen2112]

Atta boy Todd

[Reds Fanatic]

4 pitch walk to Frazier

[Kc61]

They can keep the shift and just make sure the LF stays ready for a lazy line drive.

Jay has the third highest fly ball percentage of qualified NL hitters. IMO his problem is less pulling the ball and more popping it up.

I think GABP has hurt Jay's development as a hitter. Too focused on the long fly ball. Votto has managed to avoid that tendency and has become a great hitter.

[WebScorpion]

Atta boy ToddHe needs to hit next to Votto. I want to see him bat 2nd or 4th.:thumbup:

[_Sir_Charles_]

They're definitely making fewer mental errors than the Reds so far.

Yeah. I wasn't trying to make an excuse for the Reds...we're playing poorly. Just don't want to make it sound like the Padres are a bunch of chumps either.

[WVRedsFan]

He needs to hit next to Votto. I want to see him bat 2nd or 4th.:thumbup:

Yes

[_Sir_Charles_]

You don't see Hanny complain very often but he's gotten some crappy calls tonight.

[WVRedsFan]

And then he swings at a ball over his head

[_Sir_Charles_]

HANNY! :jump: He took some frustration out on THAT swing! Attaboy Hanny!

[Tom Servo]

the manigan! :jump:

[WVRedsFan]

HR. go Hanny

[cbowen2112]

Thank the lord...!!!!

[Reds Fanatic]

Hanigan homers to the first row. 3-0 Reds!!

[Reds Fanatic]

For a second I thought Quentin had the ball.

[Tony Cloninger]

Jay has the third highest fly ball percentage of qualified NL hitters. IMO his problem is less pulling the ball and more popping it up.

I think GABP has hurt Jay's development as a hitter. Too focused on the long fly ball. Votto has managed to avoid that tendency and has become a great hitter.

Sounds like he could use a change of scenery and you could sell high? Oh no...i said too much.

[RedlegJake]

Of all the hitters to hit one in Petco Hanigan would have been the very last I'd have called

Way to go HANNY!!!

[Kc61]

Ryan hadn't hit one for a long while. Glad for him. Good ballplayer, but struggling against RHP last two seasons.

[WVRedsFan]

Finally they get to Wells (former evil Buc).

[Reds Fanatic]

Brach in to pitch

[cbowen2112]

For a second I thought Quentin had the ball.

Was that Laynce Nix? LOL!!

[WebScorpion]

Manigan got allllll of that and it barely cleared the fence! Whew! I think that would have been out of the park at GABP. :eek:

[Kc61]

Sounds like he could use a change of scenery and you could sell high? Oh no...i said too much.

Watch it, Cloninger.

[reds44]

That was a large homer.

[Reds Fanatic]

With that HR Hanigan finally gets to double digits in RBI (10) for the year.

[cbowen2112]

Of all the hitters to hit one in Petco Hanigan would have been the very last I'd have called

Way to go HANNY!!!

Very last? Even over Valdez? Lol....just playin.

[alloverjr]

Manigan got allllll of that and it barely cleared the fence! Whew! I think that would have been out of the park at GABP. :eek:

2nd deck I'd say

[RedlegJake]

Very last? Even over Valdez? Lol....just playin.

Yeah - cuz in Petco Valdez would likely screw me up with an inside the parker

[_Sir_Charles_]

Manigan got allllll of that and it barely cleared the fence! Whew! I think that would have been out of the park at GABP. :eek:

It's not THAT deep there. 367 to the fence there. Left center at GABP is listed as 379

[Reds Fanatic]

Arroyo strikes out swinging.

[Kc61]

Stubbs on deck. The unDimaggio.

[RedlegJake]

Wow! This feels like a big lead....that's a dangerous feeling

[RedlegJake]

Stubbs on deck. The unDimaggio.

LOL. unDimaggio

[Reds Fanatic]

Cozart doubles to left.

[WebScorpion]

It's not THAT deep there. 367 to the fence there.
I was exaggerating. ;) but that was about as far as Hanny can hit one, for real.

[Tom Servo]

Stubbs 0-for-life

[Reds Fanatic]

Wild pitch moves Cozart to 3rd.

[alloverjr]

Can't K here

[Tom Servo]

lol

[WVRedsFan]

0-32

[Reds Fanatic]

Cozart grounds out to short. Runner stays. 0 for 32.

[cbowen2112]

He would have had a single, if not for the defense...Geez.

[WebScorpion]

Stubbs needs new bats.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Hats for bats

Hats For Bats - Major League - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBWUIYbIZfA)

[cbowen2112]

Cozart grounds out to short. Runner stays. 0 for 32.

I think he will be below .200 as well soon...cripes!

[alloverjr]

Stubbs needs new bats.

and rum

[Kc61]

It's 0 for 31, right? He had 28 entering tonight and has three outs tonight.

Right? We need to get this correct, don't want to mess up a historical moment.

[reds44]

At least Cozart has been on base 3 times.

[cbowen2112]

It's 0 for 31, right? He had 28 entering tonight and has three outs tonight.

Right? We need to get this correct, don't want to mess up a historical moment.

4 ABs

[Reds Fanatic]

Alex Hinshaw in to pitch

[WVRedsFan]

Thomas said 0-33. Beats me, but it's horrible for someone hitting No. 2

[Kc61]

4 ABs

Ok, got it, I missed the first part of the game.

0 for 32. Thanks.

[RedlegJake]

0 for 32. 4 futile efforts. One shot to third. The one ball I think he's hit hard in all those at bats.

[Kc61]

This is probably poor strategy by the Pads. Rather than use the lefty, I'd have walked Votto and used the righty against Phillips.

We'll see how it works out.

[WebScorpion]

0 for 32. 4 futile efforts. One shot to third. The one ball I think he's hit hard in all those at bats.I'm telling ya', we need to see if he can break out of the slump from the bench. I think he'll have a better chance. ;)

[Tom Servo]

This is probably poor strategy by the Pads. Rather than use the lefty, I'd have walked Votto and used the righty against Phillips.

We'll see how it works out.
I feel like LOOGY's have handcuffed Votto well this year, generally.