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klw
07-19-2012, 10:54 AM
Reds lineup vs. D-backs
http://marksheldon.mlblogs.com/2012/07/19/719-vs-ari/

Stubbs 8
Valdez 6
Phillips 4
Bruce 9
Frazier 5
Heisey 7
Cairo 3
Mesoraco 2
Leake 1

v.

Joe Saunders, LHP
4-6, 3.52 ERA


Saunders was activated from the disabled list just prior to his start Saturday against the Cubs. He was placed on the DL after being unable to get loose before his start on June 22. Saunders pitched six quality innings against the Cubs.
Joe Saunders will try to help Arizona capture the series in his second start since coming off the disabled list. The veteran lefty is 4-6 with a 3.52 ERA this season.
Saunders' only career start at Great American Ball Park came in 2010, when he gave up seven runs, four earned, in 7 1/3 innings.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2012_07_19_arimlb_cinmlb_1&mode=preview

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 11:08 AM
No TV today from FSN-Ohio. I don't think Arizona is broadcasting the game either. It is listed for MLBTV so I assume they take the stadium feed and show that?

Having Valdez and Cairo for Rolen and Cozart is pretty much a wash at this point. None of them are hitting. I think I would have started Ludwick instead of Heisey. Ludwick does proved a bit more power.

cbowen2112
07-19-2012, 11:17 AM
Cairo should not be with the Reds anymore. I really would love to see Henry Rodriguez. I feel we will have to wait for September. I think Cairo's batting average might possibly be the worst of any Red bench player ever. Just atrocious. Walt, make a change. Please!

Kc61
07-19-2012, 11:24 AM
No TV today from FSN-Ohio. I don't think Arizona is broadcasting the game either. It is listed for MLBTV so I assume they take the stadium feed and show that?

Having Valdez and Cairo for Rolen and Cozart is pretty much a wash at this point. None of them are hitting. I think I would have started Ludwick instead of Heisey. Ludwick does proved a bit more power.

With Ludwick having an OPS against lefties almost .200 points better than Heisey, you'd expect Ludwick to play against them. Yet Heisey gets the call frequently, for whatever reason.

CySeymour
07-19-2012, 11:24 AM
Come on, Dusty! Valdez hitting second AGAIN? Wow!


And no Ludwick against an LHP? I really, really have no idea anymore what Dusty is doing.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 11:32 AM
With Ludwick having an OPS against lefties almost .200 points better than Heisey, you'd expect Ludwick to play against them. Yet Heisey gets the call frequently, for whatever reason.

Thanks for pointing that out. I meant to mention a lefty was pitching to boot. Oh well, all I can do is watch,root and gripe about things. I can't change a thing.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 11:35 AM
D'Backs lineup. Looks like they are going with their A lineup sans Montero the catcher.


1. Willie Bloomquist (R) SS
2. Aaron Hill (R) 2B
3. Jason Kubel (L) LF
4. Paul Goldschmidt (R) 1B
5. Justin Upton (R) RF
6. Chris Young (R) CF
7. Ryan Roberts (R) 3B
8. Henry Blanco (R) C
9. Joe Saunders (L) P

CySeymour
07-19-2012, 11:36 AM
I can only imagine Dusty's reason for not playing Ludwick..."I had to play Heisey sometime"

Reds Fanatic
07-19-2012, 11:46 AM
Bad weather forecast for today's game:


Today Showers and thunderstorms likely, mainly between 1pm and 3pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 93. Southwest wind around 7 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.

WVRedsFan
07-19-2012, 11:53 AM
Bad weather forecast for today's game:I'd like to see a quick rainout, but that won't happen. I'm tired of watching the same dysfunctional lineups game after game. I guess I'm grouchy today.

CySeymour
07-19-2012, 12:00 PM
I'd like to see a quick rainout, but that won't happen. I'm tired of watching the same dysfunctional lineups game after game. I guess I'm grouchy today.

That makes 2 of us.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 12:33 PM
I'd like to see a quick rainout, but that won't happen. I'm tired of watching the same dysfunctional lineups game after game. I guess I'm grouchy today.

Unlike other days. ;)

WVRedsFan
07-19-2012, 12:41 PM
Unlike other days. ;)<sigh>

This old age isn't what it's played up to be :)

klw
07-19-2012, 01:01 PM
<sigh>

This old age isn't what it's played up to be :)
Still beats the alternative

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 01:32 PM
A rainout just isn't very likely. This is the only trip to Cinci for Arizona, and the only real feasible makeup date appears to be August 13th. Off-day for each team, the Reds traveling home for a homestand, and the D-Backs going to St. Louis the following day.

DGullett35
07-19-2012, 01:33 PM
Come on, Dusty! Valdez hitting second AGAIN? Wow!


And no Ludwick against an LHP? I really, really have no idea anymore what Dusty is doing.

Valdez has come up with some big hits and some nice bunts when he gets to play. I don't mind him playing at all. I bet he has a big day. Bank it:)

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 01:39 PM
Rain delay according to MLBTV.

LincolnparkRed
07-19-2012, 01:42 PM
looks like the big stuff is just going past

klw
07-19-2012, 01:44 PM
looks like the big stuff is just going past
Maybe only a few more minutes of rain and then a break though more storms may pop up later.

klw
07-19-2012, 01:49 PM
Jamie Ramsey just Tweeted first pitch now scheduled for 1:20 pm.
http://twitter.com/Jamieblog

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:24 PM
They have started. Bloomquist with a leadoff single.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:26 PM
Hill K's while Bloomquist steals 2nd.

MikeS21
07-19-2012, 02:26 PM
Is it just me or does it appear that the entire rotation is a little "off" this first turn back from the AS break. It's almost as if the extra time was not a good thing for the starting five.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:27 PM
MLBTV has the video with the Reds radio dubbed in.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:27 PM
Is it just me or does it appear that the entire rotation is a little "off" this first turn back from the AS break. It's almost as if the extra time was not a good thing for the starting five.

I thought the same thing. That time off got their timing off too. Hopefully they get it straight soon.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:28 PM
Kubel pops to SS.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:29 PM
Goldschmidt singles and Stubbs air mails the throw to the moon. 1-0 Snakes

MikeS21
07-19-2012, 02:29 PM
I thought the same thing. That time off got their timing off too. Hopefully they get it straight soon.
None of them looked too sharp their first outing back. Hopefully the second time through the rotation will be better.

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 02:30 PM
Goldschmidt singles and Stubbs air mails the throw to the moon. 1-0 Snakes

To the moon? So he's very Armstrong, eh?

mth123
07-19-2012, 02:31 PM
Is it just me or does it appear that the entire rotation is a little "off" this first turn back from the AS break. It's almost as if the extra time was not a good thing for the starting five.

Latos, Bailey, Leake and Cueto all were good the first time after the break. Only Arroyo was bad on extra rest. This is the second time through.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:32 PM
Frazier makes a good play on a roller to third to retire Upton and end the 1st. 1-0 Snakes

bucksfan2
07-19-2012, 02:34 PM
Frazier makes a good play on a roller to third to retire Upton and end the 1st. 1-0 Snakes

Will the Reds be able to score 2 runs today?

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:35 PM
Guess what Stubbs did?

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:36 PM
Will the Reds be able to score 2 runs today?

I wouldn't bank on it. :(

CySeymour
07-19-2012, 02:36 PM
Yay! We're saved! Valdez is hitting second!!!! :eek:

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:37 PM
Valdez did a Stubbs. Two away.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:38 PM
Phillips at least hits the ball. Line out to 2nd to end the 1st.

MikeS21
07-19-2012, 02:40 PM
Latos, Bailey, Leake and Cueto all were good the first time after the break. Only Arroyo was bad on extra rest. This is the second time through.
I'm not saying they were bad. I'm just thinking they looked a little rusty and not quite as sharp as they could have been. The box scores looked good, but they just looked a bit "off." Maybe it was the heat and humidity ... IDK.

Puig Your Red
07-19-2012, 02:41 PM
Can the Reds score 2?

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:41 PM
Young grounds out.

Patrick Bateman
07-19-2012, 02:41 PM
Against a lefty, the Reds will probably do something at some point today.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:42 PM
Roberts GO to SS

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:44 PM
Blanco bloops a single into CF

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:45 PM
Saunders taps out Cairo to Leake to end the DBacks 2nd.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:49 PM
Bruce GO to 1st.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:51 PM
Frazier LO to deep CF. Two out

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:53 PM
Heisey flies to center to end the Reds 2nd. 1-0 Snakes

bucksfan2
07-19-2012, 02:55 PM
Can the Reds score 2?

I am hoping for 2 hits.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:55 PM
Bloomquist doubles to RF

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 02:55 PM
What is the deal with Bloomquist?

RedsfaninMT
07-19-2012, 02:56 PM
What is the deal with Bloomquist?

What's the deal with Jay Bruce? Too many defensive lapses of late.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:56 PM
Hill singles into the hole and Bloomquist scores. 2-0 DBacks.

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 02:57 PM
What's the deal with Jay Bruce? Too many defensive lapses of late.

My guess is that it's female-related.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:58 PM
Hill cut down trying to steal.

Puig Your Red
07-19-2012, 02:59 PM
What's the deal with Jay Bruce? Too many defensive lapses of late.
That was a defensive lapse? The ball hit a took a left turn.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:59 PM
Kuble flies to deep CF.

Sun is out.

CarolinaRedleg
07-19-2012, 02:59 PM
11-pitch first inning followed by a 10-pitch second for Saunders. Don't make him work or anything.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 02:59 PM
That was a defensive lapse? The ball hit a took a left turn.

That's the way I saw it too. Not a misplay IMO.

RedsfaninMT
07-19-2012, 02:59 PM
That was a defensive lapse? The ball hit a took a left turn.

And he bobbled it, big time. That is lapse IMO.

Puig Your Red
07-19-2012, 03:00 PM
He's had some defensive issues of late, but that wasn't one of them.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 03:00 PM
GO to SS end the inning. 2-0 DBacks

RichRed
07-19-2012, 03:03 PM
I think I'm glad I can't watch this game today.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 03:03 PM
Fly out to Upton.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 03:04 PM
Mez flies to RF

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 03:06 PM
Cy Saunders has another perfect inning. 2-0 DBacks after three.

mth123
07-19-2012, 03:06 PM
Against a lefty, the Reds will probably do something at some point today.

Except lefty killers Ludwick and Cozart are sitting and Cairo is a downgrade from Votto. This isn't the team that has blistered lefty pitching all year. Seems like today would have been the day to rest Bruce instead of the other day against a RHP.

Mesoraco is my pick to come through today.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 03:10 PM
Except lefty killers Ludwick and Cozart are sitting and Cairo is a downgrade from Votto. This isn't the team that has blistered lefty pitching all year. Seems like today would have been the day to rest Bruce instead of the other day against a RHP.

Mesoraco is my pick to come through today.

You pre-empted the post I was writing.

I still can't understand Ludwick sitting today, he's not my favorite, but he's torched lefties and has been one of the team's hottest hitters, maybe the hottest.

One issue I have with Dusty is when he decides to rest somebody, it doesn't always seem like the most opportune time. Like with Ludwick today and Bruce on Tuesday.

Oh well, maybe they will come through in the later innings.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 03:13 PM
Roberts with a two out walk.

I have no idea how the first two hitters made outs. I had to step away for a bit.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 03:15 PM
Roberts with a two out walk.

I have no idea how the first two hitters made outs. I had to step away for a bit.

Two grounders to Frazier, IIRC.

OldXOhio
07-19-2012, 03:16 PM
Sad that this game is over after 3

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 03:16 PM
Blanco K's to end the inning.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 03:17 PM
Reds coming up with an opportunity to get a base runner.

bucksfan2
07-19-2012, 03:20 PM
Did Joe Saunders change his name to Cy Young?

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 03:20 PM
Stubbs pops out to 2nd.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 03:20 PM
Stubbs likes those high ones. He can't hit 'em, but he likes 'em. One out.

LincolnparkRed
07-19-2012, 03:21 PM
Reds coming up with an opportunity to get a base runner.

They need to start somewhere. Maybe the let down of the Cardinals leaving town and Joey going down was just too much for them to handle. This should be Dusty's strong suit though. Finding ways to get the players back into it.

OldXOhio
07-19-2012, 03:21 PM
I still can't understand Ludwick sitting today, he's not my favorite, but he's torched lefties and has been one of the team's hottest hitters, maybe the hottest.

.

You can't understand bc it makes absolutely no sense. It's bad enough having your best hitter out, but you also have a manager incapable of putting forth a lineup that gives the team it's best shot at winning. Days like today are ones where the brass gets a reprieve for fielding a roster full of RH hitters. Unfortunately, Dusty has his mind made up otherwise.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 03:22 PM
They need to start somewhere. Maybe the let down of the Cardinals leaving town and Joey going down was just too much for them to handle. This should be Dusty's strong suit though. Finding ways to get the players back into it.

Valdez got it. Walk. Baserunner. Hooray.

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 03:23 PM
Dang, I missed the walk. That might not happen again today.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 03:25 PM
Dang, I missed the walk. That might not happen again today.

Might not. Phillips pops out.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 03:26 PM
Bruce improves his LD rate. Also his out rate. Inning over.

_Sir_Charles_
07-19-2012, 03:28 PM
Has anybody mentioned that Joe Saunders is throwing a no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-freakin-hitter!

Kc61
07-19-2012, 03:31 PM
Hill homers.

alloverjr
07-19-2012, 03:34 PM
I believe this was the team that scored 3 runs in 3 games over the weekend against the Cubbies. Slight correction of the pitching staff it appears. Now, if the Reds could get a correction on the offensive side...

Kc61
07-19-2012, 03:34 PM
Reds mess up a fly ball to center which drops in.

No more of this for me.

_Sir_Charles_
07-19-2012, 03:34 PM
That was pitiful. That was a routine fly out to center.

Blitz Dorsey
07-19-2012, 03:34 PM
Sounds like Stubbs is having one hell of a rough day defensively.

SidneySlicker
07-19-2012, 03:35 PM
Sounds like Stubbs is having one hell of a rough day defensively.

Considering he couldn't hit the ball with a tennis racket right now, that's a very bad thing, for him and the Reds.

Blitz Dorsey
07-19-2012, 03:35 PM
Do they factor in stuff like that on the defensive stats? When a CF misjudges a ball that should have been a routine out?

Honestly, that should be an error IMO. Why is that on the pitcher? Should be E-8.

SidneySlicker
07-19-2012, 03:36 PM
Looks like 1 out of 3 from the DBacks. Something is going to have to change with this offense or it's going to be a long 3-4 weeks without Joey.

Blitz Dorsey
07-19-2012, 03:37 PM
Would be nice to come back and steal this one. Still plenty of time.

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 03:37 PM
Sounds like Stubbs is having one hell of a rough day defensively.

Not a great defender, not a good hitter...but hey, he sure is fast.

Blitz Dorsey
07-19-2012, 03:38 PM
Not a great defender, not a good hitter...but hey, he sure is fast.

Don't forget he was a first-round pick!

_Sir_Charles_
07-19-2012, 03:38 PM
no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter

VottoFan54
07-19-2012, 03:38 PM
Looks like 1 out of 3 from the DBacks. Something is going to have to change with this offense or it's going to be a long 3-4 weeks without Joey.

This is a four game series.

757690
07-19-2012, 03:38 PM
That play was mostly Heisey's fault. Stubbs had it, but had to pull up because Heisey dove for the ball and got in his way. If Heisey doesn't pull an Edmunds, it's an easy out.

Blitz Dorsey
07-19-2012, 03:39 PM
No-hitter, no-hitter, no-hitter

_Sir_Charles_
07-19-2012, 03:39 PM
That play was mostly Heisey's fault. Stubbs had it, but had to pull up because Heisey dove for the ball and got in his way. If Heisey doesn't pull an Edmunds, it's an easy out.

VERY not true. Hi-c had to dive for it because Stubbs wasn't close to it.

Blitz Dorsey
07-19-2012, 03:39 PM
talking about a no-no, talking about a no-no...

VottoFan54
07-19-2012, 03:40 PM
How many hits do the Reds have today?

_Sir_Charles_
07-19-2012, 03:40 PM
What's that Blitz? No what?

Blitz Dorsey
07-19-2012, 03:41 PM
Sir Chuck, has the opposing pitcher given up any base knocks?

Blitz Dorsey
07-19-2012, 03:41 PM
Walk to Heisey...

Blitz Dorsey
07-19-2012, 03:41 PM
Thom is extra salty today. Ha.

Blitz Dorsey
07-19-2012, 03:42 PM
If you want to tick Tom off, swing at the first pitch.

_Sir_Charles_
07-19-2012, 03:42 PM
Sir Chuck, has the opposing pitcher given up any base knocks?

Hmmmm...you pose an interesting question. Let me check.


Wow, imagine that...he's actually throwing a NO HITTER!

Blitz Dorsey
07-19-2012, 03:42 PM
Might be time for Cairo to go ahead and retire. Like mid-game.

_Sir_Charles_
07-19-2012, 03:43 PM
If you want to tick Tom off, swing at the first pitch.

Actually, I bet the easiest way to tick him off is to ignore the H. :O)

SidneySlicker
07-19-2012, 03:43 PM
This is a four game series.

My bad, I was thinking 1 and 3, not 1 of 3.

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 03:43 PM
HIT!

Blitz Dorsey
07-19-2012, 03:43 PM
Mesoraco with a hit!

_Sir_Charles_
07-19-2012, 03:44 PM
My job is done here. Thank you very much. *takes a bow*

Blitz Dorsey
07-19-2012, 03:44 PM
My job is done here. Thank you very much. *takes a bow*

Well done.

:beerme:

Blitz Dorsey
07-19-2012, 03:45 PM
Why the hell are they talking about him bunting? Forget there's two outs?

_Sir_Charles_
07-19-2012, 03:45 PM
Well done.

:beerme:

Should we mention that he's throwing a shutout too? :thumbup:

Kc61
07-19-2012, 03:45 PM
Why the hell are they talking about him bunting? Forget there's two outs?

He bunted at the first pitch. Now he Ks.

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 03:46 PM
*yawn*

So glad I didn't decide to go down to this game. Was really close to doing it.

Playadlc
07-19-2012, 03:46 PM
This is pitiful.

Blitz Dorsey
07-19-2012, 03:46 PM
Ah, bunting for a base hit. I think Leake should be trying for a HR every time up at GABP though (seriously).

Blitz Dorsey
07-19-2012, 03:48 PM
This is so baseball. Sweep the Cardinals ... about to lose a four-game series against the sad-sack Dbacks.

_Sir_Charles_
07-19-2012, 03:49 PM
Is there a mute button on the crowd today? You could hear a pin drop on that double.

_Sir_Charles_
07-19-2012, 03:50 PM
This is so baseball. Sweep the Cardinals ... about to lose a four-game series against the sad-sack Dbacks.

I agree with this with the exception of the "sad-sack" part. Arizona is better than their record shows IMO.

Blitz Dorsey
07-19-2012, 03:50 PM
Well, good night ladies and gentlemen, see you tomorrow.

*Realizes it's a day game*

I mean, uh, see you in the minor league game thread later tonight!

Puig Your Red
07-19-2012, 03:51 PM
This is so baseball. Sweep the Cardinals ... about to lose a four-game series against the sad-sack Dbacks.
It's not baseball. It's not having Votto. I imagine you're going to see a lot of losses without Votto.

_Sir_Charles_
07-19-2012, 03:52 PM
Good lord. Blanco dinger. 2 run shot. 6-0 snakes.

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 03:52 PM
The GABP HR streak is alive.

_Sir_Charles_
07-19-2012, 03:53 PM
"So the diamondbacks pitcher has as many hits as the Reds in this game" Yep, he's a bit grumpy.

_Sir_Charles_
07-19-2012, 03:55 PM
Well, I got off work early today and got a nice surprise in seeing that it was a day game today. I'd completely forgotten. *sigh* Well, I don't think I'm going to waste any more of my extra time off with this. Just depressing. Hopefully if anybody sticks around they can bring us some better luck. Go Reds. *sigh*

cumberlandreds
07-19-2012, 03:56 PM
You all can officially go walk the dog. This game is ovah.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 03:57 PM
Starting pitching was due for a correction. Can't really get too upset about a few bad starts. Team has pitched so well.

As for the offense, RedsZone is replete with everyone's thoughts, no need to repeat.

Still waiting for those "career norms" to kick in though.

SidneySlicker
07-19-2012, 03:59 PM
Starting pitching was due for a correction. Can't really get too upset about a few bad starts. Team has pitched so well.

As for the offense, RedsZone is replete with everyone's thoughts, no need to repeat.

Still waiting for those "career norms" to kick in though.

Yep the law of averages have to kick in at some point right?

Patrick Bateman
07-19-2012, 04:01 PM
It's not baseball. It's not having Votto. I imagine you're going to see a lot of losses without Votto.

Votto's what, a 7 win player? We are replacing him with say a 1 win player (whether it is Rolen or Frazier replacing his at-bats, sometimes Cairo mixed in). That's a 6 win gap which translates to a an extra win over 27 games.

Votto is out for say, 4 weeks, or about 25 games. Losing Votto is on average worth a loss unless he doesn't recover as soon as planned (could be worth more or less depending on how well Votto would have actually played over that span, but that's the average). It of coruse hurts, but there is so many factors that contribute to winning ball games, that even the likes of Votto don't have THAT significant of an impact over a small sample. It shows the difference between a likely playoff team (pre injured Votto Reds) and an average team (post Votto Reds) isn't that significant over 4 weeks. Thankfully the injury is not more serious.

Needless to say, not much Votto was going to do to help games like the last few days, where neither the pitching, fielding, or hitting has been noteworthy.

Reds Fanatic
07-19-2012, 04:06 PM
Phillips with a 3 run homer cuts the lead in half. 6-3 Dbacks

OldXOhio
07-19-2012, 04:06 PM
It's not baseball. It's not having Votto. I imagine you're going to see a lot of losses without Votto.

Its Reds baseball. This is a bad O with Votto.

Patrick Bateman
07-19-2012, 04:06 PM
Phillips 3 run bomb - game not over.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 04:07 PM
Reds within three on homer by BP.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 04:09 PM
just need a couple more of those

757690
07-19-2012, 04:10 PM
CRAP!! I really wanted to get some errands done before rush hour.

OldXOhio
07-19-2012, 04:11 PM
Is there any chance Walt is close to pulling the trigger on getting a bat?

VottoFan54
07-19-2012, 04:11 PM
Now Frazier walks. This is quite the offensive outburst.

LoganBuck
07-19-2012, 04:12 PM
It's not baseball. It's not having Votto. I imagine you're going to see a lot of losses without Votto.

Yep. It isn't really an indictment of the loss of Votto either. It is the complete lack of a bench. Seriously Scott Rolen (who hasn't been good either) takes a needed day off and you bring in Cairo. The problem is that Frazier provides some level of play at or above replacement, while the other backup infielders are inept. The better lineup today, would have seen Hanigan at first and Frazier at third. Cairo is redundant and done. Valdez is a replacement level glove, who hasn't really hurt the team. Paul is roster fodder. Walt has to do something.

LoganBuck
07-19-2012, 04:15 PM
Is there any chance Walt is close to pulling the trigger on getting a bat?

IMO, Ankiel will be here ASAP. He doesn't count as "a bat" though.

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 04:23 PM
Reds still have 1/3 of their ABs remaining in this game. Rally time.

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 04:28 PM
Interesting...this Bryan Shaw guy is listed as a switch hitter, but he has ZERO career ABs.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 04:29 PM
Mes grounds out
X-Man walks
Stubbs walks

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 04:29 PM
tying run at the plate!

klw
07-19-2012, 04:30 PM
8 straight balls from Shaw. Hopefully Valdez doesn't swing at the first pitch.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 04:30 PM
Maybe Valdez shouldn't hit here. It is a potential scoring opportunity in the late innings.

There are guys on the bench. Rolen. Ludwick.

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 04:31 PM
Rally!

Kc61
07-19-2012, 04:32 PM
Nice AB for Valdez. Apologize for doubting him.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 04:32 PM
6-4 game, runners on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out!

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 04:35 PM
DatDude!!!

Homer Bailey
07-19-2012, 04:35 PM
You all can officially go walk the dog. This game is ovah.

Homer Bailey
07-19-2012, 04:35 PM
Calling Bruce HR here.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 04:36 PM
I could have hit that pitch. Keep Shaw in there. He is terrible today and the Reds are taking advantage.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 04:36 PM
BP doubles in 2 runs! 6-6 game. BP on 2nd, 1 out.

Puig Your Red
07-19-2012, 04:36 PM
No way!

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 04:36 PM
Why the heck did they yank Saunders anyway? He was really low on his pitch count, no?

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 04:36 PM
Mike Zagurski in to pitch for Arizona.

VottoFan54
07-19-2012, 04:37 PM
Why the heck did they yank Saunders anyway? He was really low on his pitch count, no?

FWIW, he was at 86 pitches.

klw
07-19-2012, 04:37 PM
No way!

Way!

Kc61
07-19-2012, 04:37 PM
Dusty had Ondrusek up. Hopefully he gets the heavier artillery ready. This is actually a ballgame.

Homer Bailey
07-19-2012, 04:37 PM
Dusty had Ondrusek up. Hopefully he gets the heavier artillery ready. This is actually a ballgame.

For reals.

cbowen2112
07-19-2012, 04:38 PM
So great how threads and posts are started after a 6-0 start to a game (in which I admit, was getting ugly). People should do more of that in our 3-2 type ball games. "Just give it up" type threads/posts are my favorite!

Kc61
07-19-2012, 04:38 PM
It's all the law of averages.

Reds were due for bad starting performances.

BP was due to tee off on lefties. Has been way off against lefties this year.

cbowen2112
07-19-2012, 04:39 PM
It's all the law of averages.

Reds were due for bad starting performances.

BP was due to tee off on lefties. Has been way off against lefties this year.

And Shaw is a righty. Let's just say he was "due."

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 04:39 PM
Bruce grounds out to first, BP to third. 2 outs.

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 04:40 PM
I'll reiterate what I said earlier...

"So glad I didn't go down to the game today. I was so close to going."

LOL. Oops.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 04:40 PM
And Shaw is a righty. Let's just say he was "due."

Yeah, you're right.

Although the homer against Saunders was v. lefty.

Whatever, let's just get him in from third.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 04:41 PM
"The Showoff" Brad Ziegler in to pitch for Arizona.

MikeS21
07-19-2012, 04:41 PM
So great how threads and posts are started after a 6-0 start to a game (in which I admit, was getting ugly). People should do more of that in our 3-2 type ball games. "Just give it up" type threads/posts are my favorite!
:lol: I know. 10+ pages of "We're not going to get any one on base the rest of the year" and "We're not going to score any runs the rest of this decade." Now we gotta find something else to bellyache about.

Homer Bailey
07-19-2012, 04:42 PM
REDS LEAD!

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 04:43 PM
Frazier singles in the go ahead run! 7-6 Reds.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 04:43 PM
Frazier gets major kudos on that.

Ziegler very tough on righties.

The bunt attempt was ill-advised, shows no confidence that Todd can hit him.

Todd comes right back and lines in up the middle.

Beautiful.

klw
07-19-2012, 04:43 PM
Hey Hey Hey!

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 04:44 PM
6 more outs. Let's do it.

MikeS21
07-19-2012, 04:44 PM
I'll say one thing, this umpire is all over the place with his balls and strikes.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 04:44 PM
Get the whole bullpen ready except Chapman.

Then get Chapman ready.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 04:44 PM
Heisey grounds out to end the inning.

7-6 Reds after 7.

Homer Bailey
07-19-2012, 04:44 PM
Who is coming in? I'm taking a restroom break if its Ondrusek.

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 04:45 PM
I'll say one thing, this umpire is all over the place with his balls.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Too much information.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 04:45 PM
Who is coming in? I'm taking a restroom break if its Ondrusek.

Logan hasn't been great, but he doesn't get bombed. If it's him on a short leash, it still could work out.

CySeymour
07-19-2012, 04:46 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Too much information.

:lol:

MikeS21
07-19-2012, 04:49 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Too much information.
lol! Do you work in the media? That's one of their tricks. But I gotta admit, it made me go back and make sure I didn't make a typo! :eek:

Kc61
07-19-2012, 04:49 PM
Bruce might have had that foul ball. Fans got in the way.

DBacks have a lot of tough lefties on the bench as Thom says, Montero, Drew, Overbay.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 04:50 PM
Young flies out to right
Roberts grounds out to third

Kc61
07-19-2012, 04:50 PM
Montero to hit. Lefty. So a patented Baker double switch.

Marshall to pitch. Ludwick replaces Heisey. Better late than never.

Nice job by Ondrusek.

JaxRed
07-19-2012, 04:51 PM
More faith in Ondrusek than Marshall

Kc61
07-19-2012, 04:51 PM
More faith in Ondrusek than Marshall

You may be right, but you have to make this move.

cbowen2112
07-19-2012, 04:52 PM
Side note...Henry Rodriguez is ready for the show IMO...4 hits again today. He is getting his work in, but just hitting everything thrown his way. What a nice addition he could be down the stretch...sorry Cairo, but you gots ta go!

cbowen2112
07-19-2012, 04:54 PM
Marshall has had his "typical" good season thus far. Just a rough patch the last few weeks.

Homer Bailey
07-19-2012, 04:54 PM
Marshall's BABIP luck has been insane this year.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 04:54 PM
Montero singles

Captain Hook
07-19-2012, 04:55 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed but why is Thom and Brantley doing the PBP while the game is being shown on mlb network but there's no FSN broadcast here in Columbus?

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 04:56 PM
Overbay singles

HotCorner
07-19-2012, 04:56 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed but why is Thom and Brantley doing the PBP while the game is being shown on mlb network but there's no FSN broadcast here in Columbus?

Radio feed.

11larkin11
07-19-2012, 04:56 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed but why is Thom and Brantley doing the PBP while the game is being shown on mlb network but there's no FSN broadcast here in Columbus?

Thom and Jeff are on WLW, MLBN is using that feed for the TV side.

cbowen2112
07-19-2012, 04:56 PM
Wow, how unlucky is Marshall with these terrible bloops...just awful. Bring in Chapman?

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 04:57 PM
Could come down to this. Marshall vs. Bloomquist.

Captain Hook
07-19-2012, 04:57 PM
Thanks guys.Go Reds!!!

HotCorner
07-19-2012, 04:57 PM
And exhale!

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 04:57 PM
Bloomquist grounds out, no damage done.

7-6 Reds to the bottom of 8.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 04:58 PM
Wow, how unlucky is Marshall with these terrible bloops...just awful. Bring in Chapman?

I was about to respond about Marshall giving up a lot of contact and all that.

But he's out of the inning, he's great, all is well.

Let's get some insurance runs.

MikeS21
07-19-2012, 04:58 PM
Bring Rolen in to pinch hit for Miggie?

cbowen2112
07-19-2012, 04:59 PM
Guys...Marshall is not bad, just bad luck with some stinking bloops...he is the setup man we have needed for a very long time. Chapman is nice and warmed up now!

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 04:59 PM
Bring Rolen in to pinch hit for Miggie?

Nah. Dusty said that Cairo has the fewest ABs on the team. He needs more of them.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 04:59 PM
Bring Rolen in to pinch hit for Miggie?
Honestly, I think I may let Miggy hit. I don't think there's a big difference between the two at the moment, and if you bring in Rolen that means Frazier to 1B where he has limited experience (and he couldn't scoop a ball in the dirt yesterday).

Homer Bailey
07-19-2012, 04:59 PM
I was about to respond about Marshall giving up a lot of contact and all that.

But he's out of the inning, he's great, all is well.

Let's get some insurance runs.

Maybe you mean recently, but Marshall's K rate, K/BB, SwS%, Contact %, etc. are all career bests this year. Just been crazy unlucky on balls in play.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 05:00 PM
David Hernandez in to pitch for Arizona.

lollipopcurve
07-19-2012, 05:00 PM
Chapman has pitched 4 of the last 5 days.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 05:02 PM
Cairo grounds out.


The D'Backs have the meat of their order up in the 9th. Hill, Kubel, Goldschmidt. Followed by Upton.

VottoFan54
07-19-2012, 05:02 PM
Chapman has pitched 4 of the last 5 days.

He didn't pitch on Monday or Wednesday, did he?

Kc61
07-19-2012, 05:03 PM
Maybe you mean recently, but Marshall's K rate, K/BB, SwS%, Contact %, etc. are all career bests this year. Just been crazy unlucky on balls in play.

I'm not down on Marshall. His WHIP is a bit high this year, he's given up his share of runners, and mostly on base hits. I agree that his peripheral numbers are very good.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 05:03 PM
He didn't pitch on Monday or Wednesday, did he?
Nope. I don't see any reason why he couldn't pitch today.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 05:03 PM
Mes K's.

Homer Bailey
07-19-2012, 05:04 PM
I'm not down on Marshall. His WHIP is a bit high this year, he's given up his share of runners, and mostly on base hits. I agree that his peripheral numbers are very good.

His higher WHIP can be directly attributed to his .375 BABIP against, despite a very low LD%. Simply put, just bad luck. His GB rate has never been better either.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 05:05 PM
Ludwick grounds out to short.


Here we go. 7-6 Reds to the 9th.

lollipopcurve
07-19-2012, 05:07 PM
He didn't pitch on Monday or Wednesday, did he?

Oh, right.

Hope I'm wrong, but I have a bad feeling about Chapman here. Facing mostly righties, 5th game in 7 days.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 05:07 PM
His higher WHIP can be directly attributed to his .375 BABIP against, despite a very low LD%. Simply put, just bad luck. His GB rate has never been better either.

I usually doubt the bad luck reasoning, but here I'd agree.

Marshall has K'd 44 in 34.2 innings. So he hasn't allowed a lot of contact over the season.

757690
07-19-2012, 05:09 PM
His higher WHIP can be directly attributed to his .375 BABIP against, despite a very low LD%. Simply put, just bad luck. His GB rate has never been better either.

For me, a crazy high BABIP ain't just all luck. Definitely some, but he's thrown some stinkers as well. Hard hit groud balls, while technically not line drives, have similar results as line drives.

Marshall is still very good overall, but he's not been as good this season as he has been the previous two.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 05:09 PM
Hill pops up to catcher. 1 out.

redsmetz
07-19-2012, 05:09 PM
Wait! What? An out was recorded that wasn't a strikeout????

Kc61
07-19-2012, 05:11 PM
This guy is too much.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 05:11 PM
Kubel K's. 2 out.

SidneySlicker
07-19-2012, 05:12 PM
LOL that MLB's gamecast had Aroldis Chapmans 98mph fastball as a nasty factor of 42 out of 100. Do they know what "nasty" is?

OesterPoster
07-19-2012, 05:13 PM
We're good again!!!

Redsfan320
07-19-2012, 05:13 PM
Got him!

What dooo you know- Reds win!

320

SidneySlicker
07-19-2012, 05:13 PM
And a 101mph at 69. Kind of shoots that stupid rating in the face.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 05:13 PM
Goldschimdt K's!

We're good again! :beerme:

CySeymour
07-19-2012, 05:13 PM
Wow! Whodathunkit?

SidneySlicker
07-19-2012, 05:14 PM
And this one belongs to the REDS!

Puig Your Red
07-19-2012, 05:14 PM
Hands down favorite win of the year.

redsmetz
07-19-2012, 05:14 PM
This is a special win, don't you think? Being down 6-0 and coming back and winning it? Happy to get a split out of this series. Let's bear down and get the Brew crew.

WVRedsFan
07-19-2012, 05:15 PM
Wish I could have folowed this game thread. Oh, the highs and lows. I would have been right with you. Good ending though. Back in first place.

LoganBuck
07-19-2012, 05:15 PM
Chapman has K'd 23 in last 9.1 innings.

lollipopcurve
07-19-2012, 05:16 PM
I'm calling this a huge win.

Kc61
07-19-2012, 05:16 PM
Chapman has K'd 23 in last 9.1 innings.

The decision to have Aroldis close is paying huge dividends right now.

WVRedsFan
07-19-2012, 05:16 PM
I'm calling this a huge win.Me, too!

Puig Your Red
07-19-2012, 05:16 PM
I wonder what the % of batters Chapman has struck out this year when he throws a slider for a strike during the at bat.

Tom Servo
07-19-2012, 05:17 PM
Chapman has K'd 23 in last 9.1 innings.
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lltzgnHi5F1qzib3wo1_400.jpg

Captain Hook
07-19-2012, 05:18 PM
LOL that MLB's gamecast had Aroldis Chapmans 98mph fastball as a nasty factor of 42 out of 100. Do they know what "nasty" is?

Probably forgot to take into account that it was a 98 mph fastball.

CySeymour
07-19-2012, 05:18 PM
From Twitter:

@jluckhaupt Last time the #Reds came back after losing by 6 runs in the 6th or later was June 30, 2006, what many know as the Adam Dunn grand slam game.

Puig Your Red
07-19-2012, 05:19 PM
From Twitter:

@jluckhaupt Last time the #Reds came back after losing by 6 runs in the 6th or later was June 30, 2006, what many know as the Adam Dunn grand slam game.
What we were down by in the game in Arizona the year we won the division? Edmonds when yard, IIRC. It was a pretty big deficit late.

redsmetz
07-19-2012, 05:19 PM
From Twitter:

@jluckhaupt Last time the #Reds came back after losing by 6 runs in the 6th or later was June 30, 2006, what many know as the Adam Dunn grand slam game.

Thom just said it was a game against the Nats in 2007. Wonder which is right.

dougdirt
07-19-2012, 05:20 PM
What is up with the double switch to put Hanigan in the game to catch?

Puig Your Red
07-19-2012, 05:20 PM
What is up with the double switch to put Hanigan in the game to catch?
Dusty's been doing that a lot lately for Chapman.

RichRed
07-19-2012, 05:21 PM
I think I'm glad I can't watch this game today.

Not enough facepalms on the internet to do this justice.

Puig Your Red
07-19-2012, 05:21 PM
I turned it off when it was 6-0. Whoops.

Puffy
07-19-2012, 05:22 PM
What is up with the double switch to put Hanigan in the game to catch?

I'm sure Chapman probably told Dusty he is more comfortable throwing to Hanigan.

Maybe they are able to communicate better?

Puig Your Red
07-19-2012, 05:22 PM
Thom just said it was a game against the Nats in 2007. Wonder which is right.
Different stats. Reds were down 6-0 to the Nats but it was only in the 2nd.