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CySeymour
08-06-2012, 05:53 PM
1. Cozart SS
2. Stubbs CF
3. Phillips 2B
4. Bruce RF
5. Ludwick LF
6. Rolen 3B
7. Frazier 1B
8. Hanigan C
9. Arroyo P

reds1869
08-06-2012, 05:59 PM
Nice to see BP back in the lineup. Time to start another winning streak.

cumberlandreds
08-06-2012, 06:07 PM
Here are the beer makers lineup:

1. Norichika Aoki (L) RF

2. Carlos Gomez (R) CF

3. Ryan Braun (R) LF

4. Aramis Ramirez (R) 3B

5. Corey Hart (R) 1B

6. Rickie Weeks (R) 2B

7. Martin Maldonado (R) C

8. Jean Segura (R) SS

9. Yovani Gallardo (R) P

Big Klu
08-06-2012, 06:29 PM
The Brewers have the same number of lefties in their lineup as the Reds do.

Degenerate39
08-06-2012, 06:30 PM
The Brewers have the same number of lefties in their lineup as the Reds do.

That bodes well for Bronson

_Sir_Charles_
08-06-2012, 06:57 PM
*crossing my fingers that Brandon STAYS in the starting lineup*

We've seen this before in the past week....then scratched.

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 07:21 PM
I like the lineup, at least as much as I can any lineup with Cozart and Stubbs batting 1-2 against a righty.

GADawg
08-06-2012, 07:36 PM
i always look at the opposing lineup and try to guess the guy to avoid for the night.....tonight it's Martin Maldonado

Brutus
08-06-2012, 08:10 PM
The good news is that according to the Stats, Inc. preview for ESPN, Bruce and Ludwick are a combined 18-for-43 lifetime against Gallardo with five homers. Hopefully that continues tonight.

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 09:16 PM
Am I the only one who finds the FS-Ohio HD feed horrible?

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 09:23 PM
In other news, both teams go 1-2-3 in the first.

Degenerate39
08-06-2012, 09:25 PM
Am I the only one who finds the FS-Ohio HD feed horrible?

Games not in HD for me today

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 09:25 PM
Echo!!!!!!!!

Anybody else here?

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 09:25 PM
Games not in HD for me today

Mine says it is but it looks awful

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 09:27 PM
The Brewers feed is just as bad, who knows?

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 09:27 PM
Not a good feed, but better than we had in Houston.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 09:28 PM
Go Beethoven!!

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 09:29 PM
Luswick doubled. One out. Jay flew out to deep right.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 09:32 PM
Rolen walks. Runners on first and second. Frazier up.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 09:34 PM
Frazier flies to right. Too many short fly balls
Hanigan hits first pitch (are you serious) to right again.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 09:35 PM
Gotta go get my wife at school, so I'm out for awhile. Amazingly, I have over half the posts anyway.

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 09:44 PM
Ramirez grounded out to Arroyo
Hart singled to right
Weeks K's
Maldonado K's


0-0 after 2

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 09:52 PM
Stubbs singled with two outs, and swipes 2nd. But BP just flies out to the warning track in center.

0-0 mid 3rd


Meanwhile in Pittsburgh the Pirates are up 1-0 after 6. Bedard has only allowed 1 hit.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 09:57 PM
Meanwhile in Pittsburgh the Pirates are up 1-0 after 6. Bedard has only allowed 1 hit.

The run they scored was a joke. McCutchen blooped a single to center and Chris Young basically walked up to it, dropped the ball after it bounced, and McCutchen attempted to take second. A good throw had McCutchen, but Young threw it away and he took third. Scored on a ground ball to SS.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 09:59 PM
Segura and Gallardo K.

Aoki singles. Gomez F7.

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 09:59 PM
Segura K's
Gallardo K's
Aoki singles to center
Gomez flied out to center


0-0 after 3

reds44
08-06-2012, 10:00 PM
The ball looks like it's really carrying to right.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:01 PM
Bruce pops out to left.

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 10:02 PM
Looking like a pitchers duel tonight

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:03 PM
Ludwick K's

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:06 PM
Rolen BB (2nd of the night) very close pitch.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:07 PM
Frazier pops out to RF. 0-0 after 3.5

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 10:08 PM
Reds bats cooling off, no runs in ten innings

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:09 PM
Grilli in to pitch the top of the 8th in Pittsburgh w/ a 1-0 lead over AZ.

St. Louis beating SF 2-1 in the 4th.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:10 PM
Braun lines out to Bruce.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:10 PM
Ramirez hits his 32nd double of the year.

Gallen5862
08-06-2012, 10:12 PM
Thanks for the pbp.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:13 PM
Hart grounds out to Phillips. Ramirez moves to 3rd.

Arizona goes 1-2-3 in the 8th at Pitt.

Kc61
08-06-2012, 10:14 PM
Pirates pitching at home is just amazing. They are like a different staff at home.

Arroyo gets a K.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:15 PM
Weeks K's (5 for Arroyo). 0-0 after 4.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:17 PM
Giants had 2 on, 1 out v. St. Louis, but Westbrook gets out of it. Cards lead 2-1 after 3.5.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:19 PM
Hanigan BB

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:19 PM
Arroyo fouls out on a bunt. Nice play by Hart.

Degenerate39
08-06-2012, 10:19 PM
Reds cant bunt

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:19 PM
Must not be our night. Stupid bunt.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:21 PM
Reds cant bunt

You know it and I know it. Guess who can't figure it out?

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:21 PM
Single for Cozart. 1st and 2nd. 1 out

Kc61
08-06-2012, 10:21 PM
Must not be our night. Stupid bunt.

It was a bad bunt, but it will be the Reds' night. Confidence.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:22 PM
I said must. Question mark missing :). Still , I hate the bunt.

Kc61
08-06-2012, 10:23 PM
I said must. Question mark missing :). Still , I hate the bunt.

Dusty does bunt too much IMO. But the pitcher in that spot, every manager in baseball would bunt.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:23 PM
Maybe in the NL ;)

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:23 PM
Stubbs ground out. 2nd/3rd and 2 outs.

Nice play by Weeks on the slow chopper.

edabbs44
08-06-2012, 10:24 PM
Dusty does bunt too much IMO. But the pitcher in that spot, every manager in baseball would bunt.

Not the collective Reds Zone management team.

Kc61
08-06-2012, 10:24 PM
Not the collective Reds Zone management team.

I didn't say "armchair manager."

Sorry, folks.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:24 PM
Pirates tack on another 2-0 in the bottom 8. Still batting.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:25 PM
Pirates tack on another 2-0 in the bottom 8. Still batting.

They have the best home record in the league. They'll probably go 9-1 or 8-2 in their home stand.

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 10:26 PM
They have the best home record in the league. They'll probably go 9-1 or 8-2 in their home stand.
Nah, they'll drop a few games.

Kc61
08-06-2012, 10:26 PM
They have the best home record in the league. They'll probably go 9-1 or 8-2 in their home stand.

It's eleven games, four v. DBacks, three v. Pads, four v. Dodgers. And I hope that DBacks and Dodgers do some damage.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:26 PM
Phillips grounds out to 1st. 0-0 after 4.5.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:27 PM
3-0 Pirates. Runners on 1st and 3rd.

BCubb2003
08-06-2012, 10:27 PM
We're on a pace to never score again.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:28 PM
We're on a pace to never score again.

Never? There's always the Brewer bullpen, you know...

BCubb2003
08-06-2012, 10:29 PM
Never? There's always the Brewer bullpen, you know...

That's the spirit.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:29 PM
Double for Maldonado. Not sure what Stubbs was doing. He looked like he thought it would've been gone, but then it went off the wall. Bruce did a nice job backing up.

Degenerate39
08-06-2012, 10:29 PM
That double would've been a inside the park home run against the Pirates

reds44
08-06-2012, 10:30 PM
Drew Stubbs might be the most overrated defender I've ever seen on the Reds.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:30 PM
Double for Maldonado. Not sure what Stubbs was doing.

Afraid of the wall.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:30 PM
Segura flies out to Bruce. Maldonado goes to 3rd. Good throw by Bruce, but it hit the runner.

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 10:31 PM
damn it

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:31 PM
Gallardo singles in a run.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:31 PM
They score.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:31 PM
Time to watch Bronson closely.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:32 PM
4-0 Pirates heading to the ninth.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:33 PM
Bronson asking for trouble.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:33 PM
single for Aoki. 1st and 2nd ... one out. Bronson's curve starting to stay up.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:34 PM
This has all the symptoms of a "Bronson Breakdown."

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:35 PM
Or not

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 10:35 PM
Double Play!

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:35 PM
Gomez 4-6-3 DP. 1-0 Brewers after 5.

BCubb2003
08-06-2012, 10:36 PM
This has all the symptoms of a "Bronson Breakdown."

Flatt and Scruggs did that one, didn't they?

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 10:36 PM
Really need to get Gallardo out of the game to get to the 'pen

Kc61
08-06-2012, 10:38 PM
Reds swept the Brewers last time. Law of averages says that Reds won't sweep the Brewers in this series. And, Reds are facing Brewers' ace tonight.

Still it's frustrating to see the Reds unable to break through with some runs.

edabbs44
08-06-2012, 10:38 PM
Drew Stubbs might be the most overrated defender I've ever seen on the Reds.

It is amazing how many theoretical gold gloves Stubbs has won in his career.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:39 PM
Bruce pops out to left.

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 10:39 PM
Bruce tardy on a fastball down the middle

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:40 PM
Pirates win 4-0.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:41 PM
Ludwick pops to RF.

Kc61
08-06-2012, 10:41 PM
Fly ball after fly ball after fly ball.

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 10:41 PM
Man, Gallardo hasn't looked very good but the Reds aren't breaking through.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:42 PM
Rolen singles.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:43 PM
Reds need Frazier to come through here.

WrongVerb
08-06-2012, 10:43 PM
This is looking like a team that needs Votto back.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:43 PM
Maybe he's good tonight. Either way, we have to get some runs somehow

BCubb2003
08-06-2012, 10:44 PM
Aoki is one shaky outfielder. He seems to break the wrong way every time, but gets to the ball.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:44 PM
Single for Frazier. 1st and 2nd ... 2 outs.

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 10:44 PM
Big AB for Hanigan here

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 10:44 PM
c'mon Manigan

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:45 PM
Hanigan grounds out.

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 10:45 PM
Weak AB by Hanigan

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:45 PM
First stinking pitch.

reds44
08-06-2012, 10:45 PM
This is looking like a team that needs Votto back.
Yup. It was going to happen eventually.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:46 PM
Gallardo at 95 pitches.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-06-2012, 10:46 PM
Any word on when Votto comes back? Just got back from a softball game...

reds44
08-06-2012, 10:46 PM
Post ASB: Frazier: .244/.268/.436/.704 Rolen: .355/.466/.548/.944.

reds44
08-06-2012, 10:46 PM
Any word on when Votto comes back? Just got back from a softball game...
Sounds like he's getting close.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:47 PM
Buster Posey solo HR. Cards/Giants tied 2-2 after 6.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-06-2012, 10:47 PM
Sounds like he's getting close.

This series? Cubs? When the Reds return home? Any speculation?

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 10:47 PM
Isn't there an article out saying 10-14 days more?

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 10:48 PM
Rotoworld was still saying "no timetable", which is never a good sign for it being soon.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-06-2012, 10:49 PM
McCoy said on Sunday that he was speculating when the Reds return home. Appears they are needing him NOW!

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:49 PM
Braun flies out to RF.

reds44
08-06-2012, 10:49 PM
Ehhh. He was running at full speed today and is taking BP and fielding. I'll say in Chicago or at the latest when we get back to GABP.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-06-2012, 10:49 PM
I hope by Sat as I will be in attendance on the rooftop wearing RED!

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 10:50 PM
damnit

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:50 PM
2-0. HR Ramirez.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:50 PM
Bronson Blowup. I never trust close games with Arroyo.

Brutus
08-06-2012, 10:51 PM
Bronson Blowup. I never trust close games with Arroyo.

A solo homer constitutes a blowup?

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:51 PM
3-0. Corey Hart ... a moonshot.

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 10:51 PM
damnit again

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:51 PM
See

smith288
08-06-2012, 10:52 PM
Good GOD Arroyo needs an L screen...geez.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:52 PM
Getting the ball up. You could see it coming.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:52 PM
See

Doesn't matter if the Reds hitters put up a 0.

kbrake
08-06-2012, 10:52 PM
See

You always assume the worst possible outcome you're bound to be right occasionally.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:53 PM
Single for Weeks.

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 10:53 PM
Bronson Blowup. I never trust close games with Arroyo.

I'm with you, I'd rather see anybody else pitch.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-06-2012, 10:53 PM
Rickie Weeks is a terrible batter. Arroyo missing locations and getting pounded.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:54 PM
Bryan Price not with the Reds tonight on "personal business." Jenkins the acting pitching coach tonight.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:55 PM
LeCure warming.

St. Louis leading SF now ... 3-2 in the bottom of the 6th.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:55 PM
Rolen singles.


You always assume the worst possible outcome you're bound to be right occasionally.

History shows that Bronson's soft stuff is dangerous when he's getting the ball up. He got lucky with Braun, but when he's up in the zone, look out. That's not doom and gloom, that's history. And Welsh agrees.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:56 PM
Bryan Price not with the Reds tonight on "personal business." Jenkins the acting pitching coach tonight.

Wasn't he gone yesterday? Didn't someone else come to the mound?

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 10:57 PM
Blowup complete.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:57 PM
2-run HR for Maldonado.

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 10:57 PM
fail

reds44
08-06-2012, 10:57 PM
And the regression of the Reds pitching continues.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:58 PM
Wasn't he gone yesterday? Didn't someone else come to the mound?

Maybe. I had company and I was watching on the computer w.the sound off.

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 10:58 PM
Arroyo blow up, WV Reds is right, its as predictable as the sun rising.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 10:58 PM
Double switch. LeCure coming in to pitch.

alloverjr
08-06-2012, 10:58 PM
Ludwick doesn't look overly athletic out there :laugh:

smith288
08-06-2012, 10:58 PM
When this team is off, THEY ARE OFF. Ugh.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-06-2012, 10:59 PM
Ludwick doesn't look overly athletic out there :laugh:

Yeah, he got 2 inches of vertical and the ball needed 3.

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 10:59 PM
Going forward, Dusty has got to have a quicker hook with Arroyo.

CrackerJack
08-06-2012, 11:00 PM
Wow you'd never know this team had the best record in baseball some times, they can look absolutely terrible, geesh. That said, Dusty at this time of year is trying to squeeze way too much out of his rotation - who are piling up innings like crazy.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:00 PM
Arroyo blow up, WV Reds is right, its as predictable as the sun rising.

No, I always assume the worst, so I get lucky once in awhile and call it right :).

Seriously, it's easy to see when Arroyo is losing it. He gets the ball up and gets pounded. And once he does that, carnage ensues. Like Welsh says, it happens so fast, you can't get anyone warm fast enough.

Brutus
08-06-2012, 11:00 PM
Blowup complete.

You sound proud of that.

Like someone said, make that prediction often enough and it's bound to be right at some point. A broken clock is accurate twice a day.

reds44
08-06-2012, 11:01 PM
Every single team in baseball looks terrible at times, the Reds are no exception.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:02 PM
You sound proud of that.

Like someone said, make that prediction often enough and it's bound to be right at some point. A broken clock is accurate twice a day.

Hey Brutus, it was just a comment, nothing more. I saw it coming just as Chris Welsh and everyone in th Reds dugout did. What in the h e double toothpicks is wrong with that?

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 11:03 PM
Every single team in baseball looks terrible at times, the Reds are no exception.
Pretty much. Sucks, but it's true.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:05 PM
Going forward, Dusty has got to have a quicker hook with Arroyo.hard to do. He blew up too fast, as Welsh said. I wonder if Bronson is a five inning pitcher these days?

NJReds
08-06-2012, 11:06 PM
Cozart HR. 5-1.

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 11:07 PM
hard to do. He blew up too fast, as Welsh said. I wonder if Bronson is a five inning pitcher these days?
That's basically what I meant. He goes through these bad stretches, but even then Dusty tries to keep him out there as long as possible. I say get 5 or so from him in these games where guys are banging it off the wall and don't push your luck.

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 11:07 PM
Cozart :jump:

Brutus
08-06-2012, 11:08 PM
Hey Brutus, it was just a comment, nothing more. I saw it coming just as Chris Welsh and everyone in th Reds dugout did. What in the h e double toothpicks is wrong with that?

You "see it coming" every time he's on the mound, just as every time Homer is on the mound and every time Leake is on the mound. At some point, it just starts to get old. It's one thing to be pessimistic, but these game threads sometimes take pessimism to a whole other level.

smith288
08-06-2012, 11:08 PM
Can Stubbs quit looking at peas down the middle?

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:08 PM
You "see it coming" every time he's on the mound, just as every time Homer is on the mound and every time Leake is on the mound. At some point, it just starts to get old. It's one thing to be pessimistic, but these game threads sometimes take pessimism to a whole other level.

And I am the sole reason for that? Give me a break.

kbrake
08-06-2012, 11:09 PM
And I am the sole reason for that? Give me a break.

You're not the sole reason but you definitely lead the league.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 11:10 PM
And in St. Louis ... Cards 5, SF 2.

smith288
08-06-2012, 11:10 PM
Pretend you're in a bar and your friends are all watching the game... this is EXACTLY how the conversation goes.

We are fans...we are happy when they are playing well, and peeved off when they look like poo.

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 11:10 PM
Need to get BP going again. He was on fire before the injury.

Brutus
08-06-2012, 11:11 PM
And I am the sole reason for that? Give me a break.

Did I say you were?

BCubb2003
08-06-2012, 11:12 PM
It's weird how I never notice these things if not for the backlash. I figure let's let everybody be themselves.

reds44
08-06-2012, 11:12 PM
Pretend you're in a bar and your friends are all watching the game... this is EXACTLY how the conversation goes.

We are fans...we are happy when they are playing well, and peeved off when they look like poo.
Depends what kind of friends you have I guess.

The Reds aren't even playing like pooh. They're about to lose back to back games. This is baseball, was that not going to happen the rest of the year?

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:13 PM
It's weird how I never notice these things if not for the backlash. I figure let's let everybody be themselves.

Not gonna happen here. Every losing game thread has someone calling out someone. Human nature.

smith288
08-06-2012, 11:14 PM
Depends what kind of friends you have I guess.

The Reds aren't even playing like pooh. They're about to lose back to back games. This is baseball, was that not going to happen the rest of the year?
Good pitching makes this team look like pooh. It's science.

kbrake
08-06-2012, 11:15 PM
Good pitching makes this team look like pooh. It's science.

Isn't that kind of the point of good pitching?

reds44
08-06-2012, 11:16 PM
Isn't that kind of the point of good pitching?
Reds should light up everybody and never lose.

reds44
08-06-2012, 11:18 PM
But when they do lose, it's Dusty's fault.

kbrake
08-06-2012, 11:19 PM
But when they do lose, it's Dusty's fault.

Well that argument I can understand.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:20 PM
But when they do lose, it's Dusty's fault.

But of course. Since the beginning of time, it's always the coach or manager's fault. It was also Hutchinson's fault for losing the 61 series and Jack McKeons fault the Reds didn't win in 2000. Even Sparky caught heat.

smith288
08-06-2012, 11:21 PM
Reds should light up everybody and never lose.
Youre right. We should all sing kumbaya all game and when the reds fail, go kick the dog instead of post our frustrations on a forum patrolled by the happy police.

No sense of humor here anymore. No freedom to just vent when a game (this is a game thread) goes sour because the team looks lousy. Geez.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-06-2012, 11:22 PM
Youre right. We should all sing kumbaya all game and when the reds fail, go kick the dog instead of post our frustrations on a forum patrolled by the happy police.

No sense of humor here anymore. No freedom to just vent when a game (this is a game thread) goes sour because the team looks lousy. Geez.

I think the problem when it's gets excessive and always pessimistic. Get's a little tiring.

edabbs44
08-06-2012, 11:22 PM
Youre right. We should all sing kumbaya all game and when the reds fail, go kick the dog instead of post our frustrations on a forum patrolled by the happy police.

No sense of humor here anymore. No freedom to just vent when a game (this is a game thread) goes sour because the team looks lousy. Geez.

There's a difference between venting and what goes on in these threads.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:23 PM
Youre right. We should all sing kumbaya all game and when the reds fail, go kick the dog instead of post our frustrations on a forum patrolled by the happy police.

No sense of humor here anymore. No freedom to just vent when a game (this is a game thread) goes sour because the team looks lousy. Geez.

I feel your pain. I am your pain, but it's only a few like that. I'd quit even coming here if I had any sense, but I don't as some would tell you :).

VottoFan54
08-06-2012, 11:23 PM
Solid AB by Bruce.

VottoFan54
08-06-2012, 11:24 PM
If you think this game is over, you are giving the Brewers bullpen too much credit.

smith288
08-06-2012, 11:26 PM
I think the problem when it's gets excessive and always pessimistic. Get's a little tiring.
I've been here for a long time, seen many a game thread. I don't really see any difference in behaviors.

Use the ignore if you see patterns. I just want to have the freedom to be a frustrated fan from time to time.

alloverjr
08-06-2012, 11:27 PM
This team better hope Ludwick doesn't turn back into a pumpkin.

edabbs44
08-06-2012, 11:27 PM
I've been here for a long time, seen many a game thread. I don't really see any difference in behaviors.

Use the ignore if you see patterns. I just want to have the freedom to be a frustrated fan from time to time.

I guess the question is, what is so frustrating about a team with the best record in baseball?

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:29 PM
Rolen continues to hit.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-06-2012, 11:31 PM
I've been here for a long time, seen many a game thread. I don't really see any difference in behaviors.

Use the ignore if you see patterns. I just want to have the freedom to be a frustrated fan from time to time.

Well, I've been here a long time too...maybe you are right. The game threads are fun and shouldn't be regulated. Just gets a little tiring when one or two seem to be overly sky is falling when one or two things negative occur.

I think all of us knew this team wasn't going to win 80% of our game the rest of the way.

VottoFan54
08-06-2012, 11:31 PM
Tying run is at the plate.

reds44
08-06-2012, 11:32 PM
Meanwhile, the tying run is up.

kbrake
08-06-2012, 11:32 PM
Well, I've been here a long time too...maybe you are right. The game threads are fun and shouldn't be regulated. Just gets a little tiring when one or two seem to be overly sky is falling when one or two things negative occur.

I think all of us knew this team wasn't going to win 80% of our game the rest of the way.

This says it all for me. Well put.

reds44
08-06-2012, 11:32 PM
Rolen continues to hit.
The middle of the Reds order should be pretty dang good if Ludwick and Rolen continue to hit when Votto is back

Votto
Phillips
Bruce
Rolen
Ludwick

That's a strong 3-7.

alloverjr
08-06-2012, 11:34 PM
Well, I've been here a long time too...maybe you are right. The game threads are fun and shouldn't be regulated. Just gets a little tiring when one or two seem to be overly sky is falling when one or two things negative occur.

I think all of us knew this team wasn't going to win 80% of our game the rest of the way.

I would recommend ignoring those 1 or 2. What's actually worse is when posters start calling other's out and making an issue out of something that's not.

Be nice to have a lefty on the bench that could hit one out right about now.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-06-2012, 11:35 PM
Wow. K Rod is on a severe downturn. Falling off the mound, overthrowing many pitches. Boo'd off the field.

reds44
08-06-2012, 11:35 PM
Apparently Axford hopes actually taking a bath for once will stop him from sucking.

smith288
08-06-2012, 11:35 PM
I guess the question is, what is so frustrating about a team with the best record in baseball?
I watch the games in a vacuum. Expectations are raised when they are doing this well so when I see Bruce looking like a middle schooler or Stubbs stare at 2 BBs down the middle and then flail at a slider in the dirt I get annoyed and will be more critical than in season when they suck hard and I don't expect them to play at a higher level.

In the end, I like to be more sarcastic than "sky is falling" though. The happy police is probably as annoying to this thread as the debbie downer ones.


ANYWAYS.... The Reds have definately looks more competent this inning so I'll save my sarcastic criticism until Cairo gets up. :D

reds44
08-06-2012, 11:35 PM
Wow Paul for Hanigan?

kbrake
08-06-2012, 11:36 PM
Wow Paul for Hanigan?

Hanigan was already out. Paul for Heisey.

smith288
08-06-2012, 11:36 PM
Apparently Axford hopes actually taking a bath for once will stop him from sucking.
Axford looks like an ENTIRELY different dude.

reds44
08-06-2012, 11:37 PM
Hanigan was already out. Paul for Heisey.
Then why didn't he just double switch Paul in to start with?

smith288
08-06-2012, 11:37 PM
Hanny was double switched

alloverjr
08-06-2012, 11:37 PM
Wow Paul for Hanigan?

Pitcher's spot

Virginia Beach Reds
08-06-2012, 11:37 PM
Axford looks like an ENTIRELY different dude.

Quite a difference what a shower and a shave can make!

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:37 PM
Is Aoki's arm that good to hold the runner?

smith288
08-06-2012, 11:37 PM
Quite a difference what a shower and a shave can make!
Yet he still inefective.

kbrake
08-06-2012, 11:38 PM
Then why didn't he just double switch Paul in to start with?

Double switched Navarro in for Hanigan. I'm hoping the hand isn't serious for Hanigan.

reds44
08-06-2012, 11:39 PM
Shows how much I've been paying attention lol

NJReds
08-06-2012, 11:39 PM
31,000 ... good crowd for the Brewers considering their spot in the standings.

VottoFan54
08-06-2012, 11:39 PM
3-1 count to Navarro.

AmarilloRed
08-06-2012, 11:39 PM
Quick question-who would be likely to take Arroyo's rotation spot after his contract ends?

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:40 PM
Whoa. What a swing!

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 11:40 PM
Wailing away at one in his eyes

alloverjr
08-06-2012, 11:40 PM
Pitch almost hit him in the face

reds44
08-06-2012, 11:40 PM
Swung at ball 4.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 11:40 PM
Chased ball 4.

VottoFan54
08-06-2012, 11:40 PM
Nice catch by Aoki.

smith288
08-06-2012, 11:40 PM
Needed that ball to fall...oh well, good sac fly

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 11:41 PM
Unreal play, may have saved the game

reds44
08-06-2012, 11:41 PM
My God he's been catching everything.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:41 PM
What a catch. Been happening all night.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 11:41 PM
Unreal. What a catch by Aoki.

smith288
08-06-2012, 11:42 PM
Fudge. Aoki likely just won the game with that catch.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 11:42 PM
Cozart pops out. Ugh.

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 11:42 PM
:(


I can't believe that Aoki catch.

George Foster
08-06-2012, 11:43 PM
Cozart pops out. Ugh.

Going back to the pirates series...he's done that alot.

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 11:43 PM
2-3-4 in the 9th

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:43 PM
I sincerely wish Dusty would bat Phillips lead off.

cincrazy
08-06-2012, 11:44 PM
Who's closing for Milwaukee?

Virginia Beach Reds
08-06-2012, 11:45 PM
I sincerely wish Dusty would bat Phillips lead off.

My hope is he will once Votto is back in the lineup. Cozart much better down in the lineup IMO.

reds44
08-06-2012, 11:45 PM
Cozart of the 2 hits and a HR for the Reds tonight variety.

Tony Cloninger
08-06-2012, 11:45 PM
Wow you'd never know this team had the best record in baseball some times, they can look absolutely terrible, geesh. That said, Dusty at this time of year is trying to squeeze way too much out of his rotation - who are piling up innings like crazy.


I think the bullpen is the one pitching too much lately.... these starters have not even hit 150 innings yet...and people act like they have been overworked.

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 11:45 PM
This minor comeback is a prime example of why Arroyo should never, ever be given the benefit of the doubt for one more inning or batter. With the Reds pen it's just dumb.

George Foster
08-06-2012, 11:45 PM
Me and the 1st pick of the 2022 baseball amateur draft are going to Chicago this weekend for the weekend series...just booked the flight. Spur of the moment thing...wanted to do something special for him before school started. I won't tell him until friday afternoon:)

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:47 PM
My hope is he will once Votto is back in the lineup. Cozart much better down in the lineup IMO.

I don't know. He likes Phillips there in 4th for some reason. It has worked, but when Votto comes back, it would make sense. Lots of pressure for a rookie there.

reds44
08-06-2012, 11:47 PM
I really wish Rolen would have retired.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 11:47 PM
Rolen can pick it at 3rd.

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 11:48 PM
If there was a way to only let Rolen play after the All-Star break he'd be golden.

cincrazy
08-06-2012, 11:48 PM
I don't know. He likes Phillips there in 4th for some reason. It has worked, but when Votto comes back, it would make sense. Lots of pressure for a rookie there.

Well he likes him fourth for a good reason, because he's been crazy productive there. But I do agree, with Ludwick's resurgence, now is as good a time as any to make the switch. But, is BP's calf healthy enough for Dusty to want to hit him leadoff?

Tony Cloninger
08-06-2012, 11:48 PM
I've been here for a long time, seen many a game thread. I don't really see any difference in behaviors.

Use the ignore if you see patterns. I just want to have the freedom to be a frustrated fan from time to time.

It's when people go off the tracks and start spouting hyperbole and nonsense..... that it becomes annoying. It's like they are being fed what to post by Falls City Beer. :D

George Foster
08-06-2012, 11:48 PM
If there was a way to only let Rolen play after the All-Star break he'd be golden.

except for 2010....

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:49 PM
Me and the 1st pick of the 2022 baseball amateur draft are going to Chicago this weekend for the weekend series...just booked the flight. Spur of the moment thing...wanted to do something special for him before school started. I won't tell him until friday afternoon:)

Good form. Surprised my son several times and plan to do it again soon.

alloverjr
08-06-2012, 11:49 PM
I don't know. He likes Phillips there in 4th for some reason. It has worked, but when Votto comes back, it would make sense. Lots of pressure for a rookie there.

I doubt it. I think everybody just moves down one if Votto comes back this year

Brutus
08-06-2012, 11:50 PM
This minor comeback is a prime example of why Arroyo should never, ever be given the benefit of the doubt for one more inning or batter. With the Reds pen it's just dumb.

That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.

With that logic, every time Arroyo gives up a baserunner, he should be yanked.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:52 PM
Well he likes him fourth for a good reason, because he's been crazy productive there. But I do agree, with Ludwick's resurgence, now is as good a time as any to make the switch. But, is BP's calf healthy enough for Dusty to want to hit him leadoff?

Good question. I think Dusty likes speed at the top of the order and lately, I haven't seen that out of Brandon. And your point is well taken. We don't know much about his health.

redsfaninbsg
08-06-2012, 11:52 PM
That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.

With that logic, every time Arroyo gives up a baserunner, he should be yanked.

With Arroyo if it's past the 5th inning and it's close, you better be ready to pull him.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 11:53 PM
Passed ball on Navarro

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:53 PM
With Arroyo if it's past the 5th inning and it's close, you better be ready to pull him.

Hmmm

NJReds
08-06-2012, 11:53 PM
Cardinals win 8-2.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:54 PM
Oh well

kbrake
08-06-2012, 11:54 PM
I doubt it. I think everybody just moves down one if Votto comes back this year

If?

George Foster
08-06-2012, 11:54 PM
say goodnight Gracie...

Tom Servo
08-06-2012, 11:54 PM
That just about does it. I will say that even if we end up losing it was nice to see the offense wasn't dead. A little bit of luck and it would be a tie game or the Reds ahead.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 11:54 PM
Arredondo just made a comeback a little tougher.

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:56 PM
High pitches to the Brewers are lethal to the Reds.

NJReds
08-06-2012, 11:56 PM
6-3 Brewers heading to the 9th.

It's rally time!

NJReds
08-06-2012, 11:57 PM
Oh well

In all fairness, you thought the game was over when the Brewers took a 1-0 lead. :D

WVRedsFan
08-06-2012, 11:57 PM
That just about does it. I will say that even if we end up losing it was nice to see the offense wasn't dead. A little bit of luck and it would be a tie game or the Reds ahead.

And a rightfielder that took at least 4 hits from the Reds.

Tony Cloninger
08-06-2012, 11:57 PM
Arredondo and Ondrisek are turning into Pedro Borbon and Manny Sarmiento circa July-August 1978.