8/6/2012 - Reds at Brewers - Dat Dude is back

[CySeymour]

1. Cozart SS
2. Stubbs CF
3. Phillips 2B
4. Bruce RF
5. Ludwick LF
6. Rolen 3B
7. Frazier 1B
8. Hanigan C
9. Arroyo P

[reds1869]

Nice to see BP back in the lineup. Time to start another winning streak.

[cumberlandreds]

Here are the beer makers lineup:

1. Norichika Aoki (L) RF

2. Carlos Gomez (R) CF

3. Ryan Braun (R) LF

4. Aramis Ramirez (R) 3B

5. Corey Hart (R) 1B

6. Rickie Weeks (R) 2B

7. Martin Maldonado (R) C

8. Jean Segura (R) SS

9. Yovani Gallardo (R) P

[Big Klu]

The Brewers have the same number of lefties in their lineup as the Reds do.

[Degenerate39]

The Brewers have the same number of lefties in their lineup as the Reds do.

That bodes well for Bronson

[_Sir_Charles_]

*crossing my fingers that Brandon STAYS in the starting lineup*

We've seen this before in the past week....then scratched.

[Tom Servo]

I like the lineup, at least as much as I can any lineup with Cozart and Stubbs batting 1-2 against a righty.

[GADawg]

i always look at the opposing lineup and try to guess the guy to avoid for the night.....tonight it's Martin Maldonado

[Brutus]

The good news is that according to the Stats, Inc. preview for ESPN, Bruce and Ludwick are a combined 18-for-43 lifetime against Gallardo with five homers. Hopefully that continues tonight.

[redsfaninbsg]

Am I the only one who finds the FS-Ohio HD feed horrible?

[redsfaninbsg]

In other news, both teams go 1-2-3 in the first.

[Degenerate39]

Am I the only one who finds the FS-Ohio HD feed horrible?

Games not in HD for me today

[redsfaninbsg]

Echo!!!!!!!!

Anybody else here?

[redsfaninbsg]

Games not in HD for me today

Mine says it is but it looks awful

[redsfaninbsg]

The Brewers feed is just as bad, who knows?

[WVRedsFan]

Not a good feed, but better than we had in Houston.

[WVRedsFan]

Go Beethoven!!

[WVRedsFan]

Luswick doubled. One out. Jay flew out to deep right.

[WVRedsFan]

Rolen walks. Runners on first and second. Frazier up.

[WVRedsFan]

Frazier flies to right. Too many short fly balls
Hanigan hits first pitch (are you serious) to right again.

[WVRedsFan]

Gotta go get my wife at school, so I'm out for awhile. Amazingly, I have over half the posts anyway.

[Tom Servo]

Ramirez grounded out to Arroyo
Hart singled to right
Weeks K's
Maldonado K's


0-0 after 2

[Tom Servo]

Stubbs singled with two outs, and swipes 2nd. But BP just flies out to the warning track in center.

0-0 mid 3rd


Meanwhile in Pittsburgh the Pirates are up 1-0 after 6. Bedard has only allowed 1 hit.

[NJReds]

Meanwhile in Pittsburgh the Pirates are up 1-0 after 6. Bedard has only allowed 1 hit.

The run they scored was a joke. McCutchen blooped a single to center and Chris Young basically walked up to it, dropped the ball after it bounced, and McCutchen attempted to take second. A good throw had McCutchen, but Young threw it away and he took third. Scored on a ground ball to SS.

[NJReds]

Segura and Gallardo K.

Aoki singles. Gomez F7.

[Tom Servo]

Segura K's
Gallardo K's
Aoki singles to center
Gomez flied out to center


0-0 after 3

[reds44]

The ball looks like it's really carrying to right.

[NJReds]

Bruce pops out to left.

[redsfaninbsg]

Looking like a pitchers duel tonight

[NJReds]

Ludwick K's

[NJReds]

Rolen BB (2nd of the night) very close pitch.

[NJReds]

Frazier pops out to RF. 0-0 after 3.5

[redsfaninbsg]

Reds bats cooling off, no runs in ten innings

[NJReds]

Grilli in to pitch the top of the 8th in Pittsburgh w/ a 1-0 lead over AZ.

St. Louis beating SF 2-1 in the 4th.

[NJReds]

Braun lines out to Bruce.

[NJReds]

Ramirez hits his 32nd double of the year.

[Gallen5862]

Thanks for the pbp.

[NJReds]

Hart grounds out to Phillips. Ramirez moves to 3rd.

Arizona goes 1-2-3 in the 8th at Pitt.

[Kc61]

Pirates pitching at home is just amazing. They are like a different staff at home.

Arroyo gets a K.

[NJReds]

Weeks K's (5 for Arroyo). 0-0 after 4.

[NJReds]

Giants had 2 on, 1 out v. St. Louis, but Westbrook gets out of it. Cards lead 2-1 after 3.5.

[NJReds]

Hanigan BB

[NJReds]

Arroyo fouls out on a bunt. Nice play by Hart.

[Degenerate39]

Reds cant bunt

[WVRedsFan]

Must not be our night. Stupid bunt.

[WVRedsFan]

Reds cant bunt

You know it and I know it. Guess who can't figure it out?

[NJReds]

Single for Cozart. 1st and 2nd. 1 out

[Kc61]

Must not be our night. Stupid bunt.

It was a bad bunt, but it will be the Reds' night. Confidence.

[WVRedsFan]

I said must. Question mark missing :). Still , I hate the bunt.

[Kc61]

I said must. Question mark missing :). Still , I hate the bunt.

Dusty does bunt too much IMO. But the pitcher in that spot, every manager in baseball would bunt.

[WVRedsFan]

Maybe in the NL ;)

[NJReds]

Stubbs ground out. 2nd/3rd and 2 outs.

Nice play by Weeks on the slow chopper.

[edabbs44]

Dusty does bunt too much IMO. But the pitcher in that spot, every manager in baseball would bunt.

Not the collective Reds Zone management team.

[Kc61]

Not the collective Reds Zone management team.

I didn't say "armchair manager."

Sorry, folks.

[NJReds]

Pirates tack on another 2-0 in the bottom 8. Still batting.

[WVRedsFan]

Pirates tack on another 2-0 in the bottom 8. Still batting.

They have the best home record in the league. They'll probably go 9-1 or 8-2 in their home stand.

[Tom Servo]

They have the best home record in the league. They'll probably go 9-1 or 8-2 in their home stand.
Nah, they'll drop a few games.

[Kc61]

They have the best home record in the league. They'll probably go 9-1 or 8-2 in their home stand.

It's eleven games, four v. DBacks, three v. Pads, four v. Dodgers. And I hope that DBacks and Dodgers do some damage.

[NJReds]

Phillips grounds out to 1st. 0-0 after 4.5.

[NJReds]

3-0 Pirates. Runners on 1st and 3rd.

[BCubb2003]

We're on a pace to never score again.

[WVRedsFan]

We're on a pace to never score again.

Never? There's always the Brewer bullpen, you know...

[BCubb2003]

Never? There's always the Brewer bullpen, you know...

That's the spirit.

[NJReds]

Double for Maldonado. Not sure what Stubbs was doing. He looked like he thought it would've been gone, but then it went off the wall. Bruce did a nice job backing up.

[Degenerate39]

That double would've been a inside the park home run against the Pirates

[reds44]

Drew Stubbs might be the most overrated defender I've ever seen on the Reds.

[WVRedsFan]

Double for Maldonado. Not sure what Stubbs was doing.

Afraid of the wall.

[NJReds]

Segura flies out to Bruce. Maldonado goes to 3rd. Good throw by Bruce, but it hit the runner.

[Tom Servo]

damn it

[NJReds]

Gallardo singles in a run.

[WVRedsFan]

They score.

[WVRedsFan]

Time to watch Bronson closely.

[NJReds]

4-0 Pirates heading to the ninth.

[WVRedsFan]

Bronson asking for trouble.

[NJReds]

single for Aoki. 1st and 2nd ... one out. Bronson's curve starting to stay up.

[WVRedsFan]

This has all the symptoms of a "Bronson Breakdown."

[WVRedsFan]

Or not

[Tom Servo]

Double Play!

[NJReds]

Gomez 4-6-3 DP. 1-0 Brewers after 5.

[BCubb2003]

This has all the symptoms of a "Bronson Breakdown."

Flatt and Scruggs did that one, didn't they?

[redsfaninbsg]

Really need to get Gallardo out of the game to get to the 'pen

[Kc61]

Reds swept the Brewers last time. Law of averages says that Reds won't sweep the Brewers in this series. And, Reds are facing Brewers' ace tonight.

Still it's frustrating to see the Reds unable to break through with some runs.

[edabbs44]

Drew Stubbs might be the most overrated defender I've ever seen on the Reds.

It is amazing how many theoretical gold gloves Stubbs has won in his career.

[NJReds]

Bruce pops out to left.

[redsfaninbsg]

Bruce tardy on a fastball down the middle

[NJReds]

Pirates win 4-0.

[NJReds]

Ludwick pops to RF.

[Kc61]

Fly ball after fly ball after fly ball.

[Tom Servo]

Man, Gallardo hasn't looked very good but the Reds aren't breaking through.

[NJReds]

Rolen singles.

[NJReds]

Reds need Frazier to come through here.

[WrongVerb]

This is looking like a team that needs Votto back.

[WVRedsFan]

Maybe he's good tonight. Either way, we have to get some runs somehow

[BCubb2003]

Aoki is one shaky outfielder. He seems to break the wrong way every time, but gets to the ball.

[NJReds]

Single for Frazier. 1st and 2nd ... 2 outs.

[redsfaninbsg]

Big AB for Hanigan here

[Tom Servo]

c'mon Manigan

[NJReds]

Hanigan grounds out.

[redsfaninbsg]

Weak AB by Hanigan

[WVRedsFan]

First stinking pitch.

[reds44]

This is looking like a team that needs Votto back.
Yup. It was going to happen eventually.

[WVRedsFan]

Gallardo at 95 pitches.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

Any word on when Votto comes back? Just got back from a softball game...

[reds44]

Post ASB: Frazier: .244/.268/.436/.704 Rolen: .355/.466/.548/.944.

[reds44]

Any word on when Votto comes back? Just got back from a softball game...
Sounds like he's getting close.

[NJReds]

Buster Posey solo HR. Cards/Giants tied 2-2 after 6.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

Sounds like he's getting close.

This series? Cubs? When the Reds return home? Any speculation?

[redsfaninbsg]

Isn't there an article out saying 10-14 days more?

[Tom Servo]

Rotoworld was still saying "no timetable", which is never a good sign for it being soon.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

McCoy said on Sunday that he was speculating when the Reds return home. Appears they are needing him NOW!

[NJReds]

Braun flies out to RF.

[reds44]

Ehhh. He was running at full speed today and is taking BP and fielding. I'll say in Chicago or at the latest when we get back to GABP.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

I hope by Sat as I will be in attendance on the rooftop wearing RED!

[Tom Servo]

damnit

[NJReds]

2-0. HR Ramirez.

[WVRedsFan]

Bronson Blowup. I never trust close games with Arroyo.

[Brutus]

Bronson Blowup. I never trust close games with Arroyo.

A solo homer constitutes a blowup?

[NJReds]

3-0. Corey Hart ... a moonshot.

[Tom Servo]

damnit again

[WVRedsFan]

See

[smith288]

Good GOD Arroyo needs an L screen...geez.

[WVRedsFan]

Getting the ball up. You could see it coming.

[NJReds]

See

Doesn't matter if the Reds hitters put up a 0.

[kbrake]

See

You always assume the worst possible outcome you're bound to be right occasionally.

[NJReds]

Single for Weeks.

[redsfaninbsg]

Bronson Blowup. I never trust close games with Arroyo.

I'm with you, I'd rather see anybody else pitch.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

Rickie Weeks is a terrible batter. Arroyo missing locations and getting pounded.

[NJReds]

Bryan Price not with the Reds tonight on "personal business." Jenkins the acting pitching coach tonight.

[NJReds]

LeCure warming.

St. Louis leading SF now ... 3-2 in the bottom of the 6th.

[WVRedsFan]

Rolen singles.


You always assume the worst possible outcome you're bound to be right occasionally.

History shows that Bronson's soft stuff is dangerous when he's getting the ball up. He got lucky with Braun, but when he's up in the zone, look out. That's not doom and gloom, that's history. And Welsh agrees.

[WVRedsFan]

Bryan Price not with the Reds tonight on "personal business." Jenkins the acting pitching coach tonight.

Wasn't he gone yesterday? Didn't someone else come to the mound?

[WVRedsFan]

Blowup complete.

[NJReds]

2-run HR for Maldonado.

[Tom Servo]

fail

[reds44]

And the regression of the Reds pitching continues.

[NJReds]

Wasn't he gone yesterday? Didn't someone else come to the mound?

Maybe. I had company and I was watching on the computer w.the sound off.

[redsfaninbsg]

Arroyo blow up, WV Reds is right, its as predictable as the sun rising.

[NJReds]

Double switch. LeCure coming in to pitch.

[alloverjr]

Ludwick doesn't look overly athletic out there :laugh:

[smith288]

When this team is off, THEY ARE OFF. Ugh.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

Ludwick doesn't look overly athletic out there :laugh:

Yeah, he got 2 inches of vertical and the ball needed 3.

[Tom Servo]

Going forward, Dusty has got to have a quicker hook with Arroyo.

[CrackerJack]

Wow you'd never know this team had the best record in baseball some times, they can look absolutely terrible, geesh. That said, Dusty at this time of year is trying to squeeze way too much out of his rotation - who are piling up innings like crazy.

[WVRedsFan]

Arroyo blow up, WV Reds is right, its as predictable as the sun rising.

No, I always assume the worst, so I get lucky once in awhile and call it right :).

Seriously, it's easy to see when Arroyo is losing it. He gets the ball up and gets pounded. And once he does that, carnage ensues. Like Welsh says, it happens so fast, you can't get anyone warm fast enough.

[Brutus]

Blowup complete.

You sound proud of that.

Like someone said, make that prediction often enough and it's bound to be right at some point. A broken clock is accurate twice a day.

[reds44]

Every single team in baseball looks terrible at times, the Reds are no exception.

[WVRedsFan]

You sound proud of that.

Like someone said, make that prediction often enough and it's bound to be right at some point. A broken clock is accurate twice a day.

Hey Brutus, it was just a comment, nothing more. I saw it coming just as Chris Welsh and everyone in th Reds dugout did. What in the h e double toothpicks is wrong with that?

[Tom Servo]

Every single team in baseball looks terrible at times, the Reds are no exception.
Pretty much. Sucks, but it's true.

[WVRedsFan]

Going forward, Dusty has got to have a quicker hook with Arroyo.hard to do. He blew up too fast, as Welsh said. I wonder if Bronson is a five inning pitcher these days?

[NJReds]

Cozart HR. 5-1.

[Tom Servo]

hard to do. He blew up too fast, as Welsh said. I wonder if Bronson is a five inning pitcher these days?
That's basically what I meant. He goes through these bad stretches, but even then Dusty tries to keep him out there as long as possible. I say get 5 or so from him in these games where guys are banging it off the wall and don't push your luck.

[Tom Servo]

Cozart :jump:

[Brutus]

Hey Brutus, it was just a comment, nothing more. I saw it coming just as Chris Welsh and everyone in th Reds dugout did. What in the h e double toothpicks is wrong with that?

You "see it coming" every time he's on the mound, just as every time Homer is on the mound and every time Leake is on the mound. At some point, it just starts to get old. It's one thing to be pessimistic, but these game threads sometimes take pessimism to a whole other level.

[smith288]

Can Stubbs quit looking at peas down the middle?

[WVRedsFan]

You "see it coming" every time he's on the mound, just as every time Homer is on the mound and every time Leake is on the mound. At some point, it just starts to get old. It's one thing to be pessimistic, but these game threads sometimes take pessimism to a whole other level.

And I am the sole reason for that? Give me a break.

[kbrake]

And I am the sole reason for that? Give me a break.

You're not the sole reason but you definitely lead the league.

[NJReds]

And in St. Louis ... Cards 5, SF 2.

[smith288]

Pretend you're in a bar and your friends are all watching the game... this is EXACTLY how the conversation goes.

We are fans...we are happy when they are playing well, and peeved off when they look like poo.

[Tom Servo]

Need to get BP going again. He was on fire before the injury.

[Brutus]

And I am the sole reason for that? Give me a break.

Did I say you were?

[BCubb2003]

It's weird how I never notice these things if not for the backlash. I figure let's let everybody be themselves.

[reds44]

Pretend you're in a bar and your friends are all watching the game... this is EXACTLY how the conversation goes.

We are fans...we are happy when they are playing well, and peeved off when they look like poo.
Depends what kind of friends you have I guess.

The Reds aren't even playing like pooh. They're about to lose back to back games. This is baseball, was that not going to happen the rest of the year?

[WVRedsFan]

It's weird how I never notice these things if not for the backlash. I figure let's let everybody be themselves.

Not gonna happen here. Every losing game thread has someone calling out someone. Human nature.

[smith288]

Depends what kind of friends you have I guess.

The Reds aren't even playing like pooh. They're about to lose back to back games. This is baseball, was that not going to happen the rest of the year?
Good pitching makes this team look like pooh. It's science.

[kbrake]

Good pitching makes this team look like pooh. It's science.

Isn't that kind of the point of good pitching?

[reds44]

Isn't that kind of the point of good pitching?
Reds should light up everybody and never lose.

[reds44]

But when they do lose, it's Dusty's fault.

[kbrake]

But when they do lose, it's Dusty's fault.

Well that argument I can understand.

[WVRedsFan]

But when they do lose, it's Dusty's fault.

But of course. Since the beginning of time, it's always the coach or manager's fault. It was also Hutchinson's fault for losing the 61 series and Jack McKeons fault the Reds didn't win in 2000. Even Sparky caught heat.

[smith288]

Reds should light up everybody and never lose.
Youre right. We should all sing kumbaya all game and when the reds fail, go kick the dog instead of post our frustrations on a forum patrolled by the happy police.

No sense of humor here anymore. No freedom to just vent when a game (this is a game thread) goes sour because the team looks lousy. Geez.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

Youre right. We should all sing kumbaya all game and when the reds fail, go kick the dog instead of post our frustrations on a forum patrolled by the happy police.

No sense of humor here anymore. No freedom to just vent when a game (this is a game thread) goes sour because the team looks lousy. Geez.

I think the problem when it's gets excessive and always pessimistic. Get's a little tiring.

[edabbs44]

Youre right. We should all sing kumbaya all game and when the reds fail, go kick the dog instead of post our frustrations on a forum patrolled by the happy police.

No sense of humor here anymore. No freedom to just vent when a game (this is a game thread) goes sour because the team looks lousy. Geez.

There's a difference between venting and what goes on in these threads.

[WVRedsFan]

Youre right. We should all sing kumbaya all game and when the reds fail, go kick the dog instead of post our frustrations on a forum patrolled by the happy police.

No sense of humor here anymore. No freedom to just vent when a game (this is a game thread) goes sour because the team looks lousy. Geez.

I feel your pain. I am your pain, but it's only a few like that. I'd quit even coming here if I had any sense, but I don't as some would tell you :).

[VottoFan54]

Solid AB by Bruce.

[VottoFan54]

If you think this game is over, you are giving the Brewers bullpen too much credit.

[smith288]

I think the problem when it's gets excessive and always pessimistic. Get's a little tiring.
I've been here for a long time, seen many a game thread. I don't really see any difference in behaviors.

Use the ignore if you see patterns. I just want to have the freedom to be a frustrated fan from time to time.

[alloverjr]

This team better hope Ludwick doesn't turn back into a pumpkin.

[edabbs44]

I've been here for a long time, seen many a game thread. I don't really see any difference in behaviors.

Use the ignore if you see patterns. I just want to have the freedom to be a frustrated fan from time to time.

I guess the question is, what is so frustrating about a team with the best record in baseball?

[WVRedsFan]

Rolen continues to hit.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

I've been here for a long time, seen many a game thread. I don't really see any difference in behaviors.

Use the ignore if you see patterns. I just want to have the freedom to be a frustrated fan from time to time.

Well, I've been here a long time too...maybe you are right. The game threads are fun and shouldn't be regulated. Just gets a little tiring when one or two seem to be overly sky is falling when one or two things negative occur.

I think all of us knew this team wasn't going to win 80% of our game the rest of the way.

[VottoFan54]

Tying run is at the plate.

[reds44]

Meanwhile, the tying run is up.

[kbrake]

Well, I've been here a long time too...maybe you are right. The game threads are fun and shouldn't be regulated. Just gets a little tiring when one or two seem to be overly sky is falling when one or two things negative occur.

I think all of us knew this team wasn't going to win 80% of our game the rest of the way.

This says it all for me. Well put.

[reds44]

Rolen continues to hit.
The middle of the Reds order should be pretty dang good if Ludwick and Rolen continue to hit when Votto is back

Votto
Phillips
Bruce
Rolen
Ludwick

That's a strong 3-7.

[alloverjr]

Well, I've been here a long time too...maybe you are right. The game threads are fun and shouldn't be regulated. Just gets a little tiring when one or two seem to be overly sky is falling when one or two things negative occur.

I think all of us knew this team wasn't going to win 80% of our game the rest of the way.

I would recommend ignoring those 1 or 2. What's actually worse is when posters start calling other's out and making an issue out of something that's not.

Be nice to have a lefty on the bench that could hit one out right about now.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

Wow. K Rod is on a severe downturn. Falling off the mound, overthrowing many pitches. Boo'd off the field.

[reds44]

Apparently Axford hopes actually taking a bath for once will stop him from sucking.

[smith288]

I guess the question is, what is so frustrating about a team with the best record in baseball?
I watch the games in a vacuum. Expectations are raised when they are doing this well so when I see Bruce looking like a middle schooler or Stubbs stare at 2 BBs down the middle and then flail at a slider in the dirt I get annoyed and will be more critical than in season when they suck hard and I don't expect them to play at a higher level.

In the end, I like to be more sarcastic than "sky is falling" though. The happy police is probably as annoying to this thread as the debbie downer ones.


ANYWAYS.... The Reds have definately looks more competent this inning so I'll save my sarcastic criticism until Cairo gets up. :D

[reds44]

Wow Paul for Hanigan?

[kbrake]

Wow Paul for Hanigan?

Hanigan was already out. Paul for Heisey.

[smith288]

Apparently Axford hopes actually taking a bath for once will stop him from sucking.
Axford looks like an ENTIRELY different dude.

[reds44]

Hanigan was already out. Paul for Heisey.
Then why didn't he just double switch Paul in to start with?

[smith288]

Hanny was double switched

[alloverjr]

Wow Paul for Hanigan?

Pitcher's spot

[Virginia Beach Reds]

Axford looks like an ENTIRELY different dude.

Quite a difference what a shower and a shave can make!

[WVRedsFan]

Is Aoki's arm that good to hold the runner?

[smith288]

Quite a difference what a shower and a shave can make!
Yet he still inefective.

[kbrake]

Then why didn't he just double switch Paul in to start with?

Double switched Navarro in for Hanigan. I'm hoping the hand isn't serious for Hanigan.

[reds44]

Shows how much I've been paying attention lol

[NJReds]

31,000 ... good crowd for the Brewers considering their spot in the standings.

[VottoFan54]

3-1 count to Navarro.

[AmarilloRed]

Quick question-who would be likely to take Arroyo's rotation spot after his contract ends?

[WVRedsFan]

Whoa. What a swing!

[redsfaninbsg]

Wailing away at one in his eyes

[alloverjr]

Pitch almost hit him in the face

[reds44]

Swung at ball 4.

[NJReds]

Chased ball 4.

[VottoFan54]

Nice catch by Aoki.

[smith288]

Needed that ball to fall...oh well, good sac fly

[redsfaninbsg]

Unreal play, may have saved the game

[reds44]

My God he's been catching everything.

[WVRedsFan]

What a catch. Been happening all night.

[NJReds]

Unreal. What a catch by Aoki.

[smith288]

Fudge. Aoki likely just won the game with that catch.

[NJReds]

Cozart pops out. Ugh.

[Tom Servo]

:(


I can't believe that Aoki catch.

[George Foster]

Cozart pops out. Ugh.

Going back to the pirates series...he's done that alot.

[redsfaninbsg]

2-3-4 in the 9th

[WVRedsFan]

I sincerely wish Dusty would bat Phillips lead off.

[cincrazy]

Who's closing for Milwaukee?

[Virginia Beach Reds]

I sincerely wish Dusty would bat Phillips lead off.

My hope is he will once Votto is back in the lineup. Cozart much better down in the lineup IMO.

[reds44]

Cozart of the 2 hits and a HR for the Reds tonight variety.

[Tony Cloninger]

Wow you'd never know this team had the best record in baseball some times, they can look absolutely terrible, geesh. That said, Dusty at this time of year is trying to squeeze way too much out of his rotation - who are piling up innings like crazy.


I think the bullpen is the one pitching too much lately.... these starters have not even hit 150 innings yet...and people act like they have been overworked.

[redsfaninbsg]

This minor comeback is a prime example of why Arroyo should never, ever be given the benefit of the doubt for one more inning or batter. With the Reds pen it's just dumb.

[George Foster]

Me and the 1st pick of the 2022 baseball amateur draft are going to Chicago this weekend for the weekend series...just booked the flight. Spur of the moment thing...wanted to do something special for him before school started. I won't tell him until friday afternoon:)

[WVRedsFan]

My hope is he will once Votto is back in the lineup. Cozart much better down in the lineup IMO.

I don't know. He likes Phillips there in 4th for some reason. It has worked, but when Votto comes back, it would make sense. Lots of pressure for a rookie there.

[reds44]

I really wish Rolen would have retired.

[NJReds]

Rolen can pick it at 3rd.

[redsfaninbsg]

If there was a way to only let Rolen play after the All-Star break he'd be golden.

[cincrazy]

I don't know. He likes Phillips there in 4th for some reason. It has worked, but when Votto comes back, it would make sense. Lots of pressure for a rookie there.

Well he likes him fourth for a good reason, because he's been crazy productive there. But I do agree, with Ludwick's resurgence, now is as good a time as any to make the switch. But, is BP's calf healthy enough for Dusty to want to hit him leadoff?

[Tony Cloninger]

I've been here for a long time, seen many a game thread. I don't really see any difference in behaviors.

Use the ignore if you see patterns. I just want to have the freedom to be a frustrated fan from time to time.

It's when people go off the tracks and start spouting hyperbole and nonsense..... that it becomes annoying. It's like they are being fed what to post by Falls City Beer. :D

[George Foster]

If there was a way to only let Rolen play after the All-Star break he'd be golden.

except for 2010....

[WVRedsFan]

Me and the 1st pick of the 2022 baseball amateur draft are going to Chicago this weekend for the weekend series...just booked the flight. Spur of the moment thing...wanted to do something special for him before school started. I won't tell him until friday afternoon:)

Good form. Surprised my son several times and plan to do it again soon.

[alloverjr]

I don't know. He likes Phillips there in 4th for some reason. It has worked, but when Votto comes back, it would make sense. Lots of pressure for a rookie there.

I doubt it. I think everybody just moves down one if Votto comes back this year

[Brutus]

This minor comeback is a prime example of why Arroyo should never, ever be given the benefit of the doubt for one more inning or batter. With the Reds pen it's just dumb.

That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.

With that logic, every time Arroyo gives up a baserunner, he should be yanked.

[WVRedsFan]

Well he likes him fourth for a good reason, because he's been crazy productive there. But I do agree, with Ludwick's resurgence, now is as good a time as any to make the switch. But, is BP's calf healthy enough for Dusty to want to hit him leadoff?

Good question. I think Dusty likes speed at the top of the order and lately, I haven't seen that out of Brandon. And your point is well taken. We don't know much about his health.

[redsfaninbsg]

That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.

With that logic, every time Arroyo gives up a baserunner, he should be yanked.

With Arroyo if it's past the 5th inning and it's close, you better be ready to pull him.

[NJReds]

Passed ball on Navarro

[WVRedsFan]

With Arroyo if it's past the 5th inning and it's close, you better be ready to pull him.

Hmmm

[NJReds]

Cardinals win 8-2.

[WVRedsFan]

Oh well

[kbrake]

I doubt it. I think everybody just moves down one if Votto comes back this year

If?

[George Foster]

say goodnight Gracie...

[Tom Servo]

That just about does it. I will say that even if we end up losing it was nice to see the offense wasn't dead. A little bit of luck and it would be a tie game or the Reds ahead.

[NJReds]

Arredondo just made a comeback a little tougher.

[WVRedsFan]

High pitches to the Brewers are lethal to the Reds.

[NJReds]

6-3 Brewers heading to the 9th.

It's rally time!

[NJReds]

Oh well

In all fairness, you thought the game was over when the Brewers took a 1-0 lead. :D

[WVRedsFan]

That just about does it. I will say that even if we end up losing it was nice to see the offense wasn't dead. A little bit of luck and it would be a tie game or the Reds ahead.

And a rightfielder that took at least 4 hits from the Reds.

[Tony Cloninger]

Arredondo and Ondrisek are turning into Pedro Borbon and Manny Sarmiento circa July-August 1978.