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cumberlandreds
08-08-2012, 12:17 PM
Get away day special.

. Chris Heisey (R) CF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=heisech01&year=Career&t=b)
2. Wilson Valdez (R) SS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=valdewi01&year=Career&t=b)
3. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=phillbr01&year=Career&t=b)
4. Jay Bruce (L) RF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=bruceja01&year=Career&t=b)
5. Ryan Ludwick (R) LF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=ludwiry01&year=Career&t=b)
6. Todd Frazier (R) 3B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=frazito01&year=Career&t=b)
7. Miguel Cairo (R) 1B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=cairomi01&year=Career&t=b)
8. Dioner Navarro (S) C (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=navardi01&year=Career&t=b)
9. Mat Latos (R) P (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=latosma01&year=Career&t=b)

(http://www.baseballpress.com/lineup_team.php?team=MIL)1. Norichika Aoki (L) RF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=aokino01&year=Career&t=b)
2. Carlos Gomez (R) CF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=gomezca01&year=Career&t=b)
3. Ryan Braun (R) LF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=braunry02&year=Career&t=b)
4. Aramis Ramirez (R) 3B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=ramirar01&year=Career&t=b)
5. Corey Hart (R) 1B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=hartco01&year=Career&t=b)
6. Rickie Weeks (R) 2B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=weeksri01&year=Career&t=b)
7. Martin Maldonado (R) C (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=maldoma01&year=Career&t=b)
8. Jean Segura (R) SS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=segurje01&year=Career&t=b)
9. Randy Wolf (L) P (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=wolfra02&year=Career&t=b)

CarolinaRedleg
08-08-2012, 12:20 PM
Looks like a 7-run lineup to me :beerme:

kbrake
08-08-2012, 01:12 PM
I'm fine with it. I just want to see anything different at the top of the lineup.

Kc61
08-08-2012, 01:41 PM
Hanigan and Stubbs are much better hitters v. lefties than righties. I don't quite understand why they started last night but are sitting today.

toledodan
08-08-2012, 02:08 PM
Hanigan and Stubbs are much better hitters v. lefties than righties. I don't quite understand why they started last night but are sitting today.


dusty says hi. :D

toledodan
08-08-2012, 02:09 PM
Looks like a 7-run lineup to me :beerme:

heck i will be happy with 7 hits! :lol:

redsmetz
08-08-2012, 02:44 PM
Looks like a 7-run lineup to me :beerme:

I researched it and we've averaged 3.7 runs per game in our get-away games this season. But we're 11-6 in those games thus far. We've only had two games with anything close to 7 runs; one 8 run game and another at 6 runs (which averages, of course, to 7 runs in those games). Also one of those "get away" games was the Mets game where we got away to the Bronx.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 03:14 PM
Reds go 1-2-3 in the first.

cumberlandreds
08-08-2012, 03:14 PM
Reds go out very quietly in the first.

Homer Bailey
08-08-2012, 03:15 PM
Stubbs has a .891 OPS vs. Lefties. He's sitting today. Digest that.

cumberlandreds
08-08-2012, 03:15 PM
According the Uek, Randy Wolf is 11-4 in his career against the Reds. Hopefully that means nothing at the end of the day.

Homer Bailey
08-08-2012, 03:18 PM
According the Uek, Randy Wolf is 11-4 in his career against the Reds. Hopefully that means nothing at the end of the day.

I'd say the career .837 OPS current Reds hitters have against Wolf says more than that record.

OldXOhio
08-08-2012, 03:20 PM
Stubbs has a .891 OPS vs. Lefties. He's sitting today. Digest that.

true, but in 11 career AB against Wolf he's had only 2 hits.

makes perfect sense

Homer Bailey
08-08-2012, 03:21 PM
Brewers go 1-2-3 as Latos K's Braun.

cumberlandreds
08-08-2012, 03:21 PM
Easy inning for Latos too. Nil to nil after one.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 03:24 PM
Bruce is in a fog.

CySeymour
08-08-2012, 03:27 PM
Bruce is in a fog.

Very much of a disappointment this season. I expected him to step it up a little bit more this season.

OldXOhio
08-08-2012, 03:28 PM
Very much of a disappointment this season. I expected him to step it up a little bit more this season.

what were your expectations?

Mine were .270-35-100

cumberlandreds
08-08-2012, 03:29 PM
Gone in order again for the Reds.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 03:29 PM
1-2-3 again, but Kelch makes me feel a bit better by noting that Wolf is usually pretty good in the first two innings and then he blows up.

cumberlandreds
08-08-2012, 03:30 PM
1-2-3 again, but Kelch makes me feel a bit better by noting that Wolf is usually pretty good in the first two innings and then he blows up.

I agree with Kelch on that. The times I have seen Wolf he goes throught the order the first time pretty good. After that they usually get to him. I can only pick up the Brewers audio on MLB.com for some reason. So I am listening to Uecker, which isn't bad at all. He said Wolf had all of 7 quality starts this season.

757690
08-08-2012, 03:32 PM
Where's Vin Scully when you need him? I wanted to hear his translation of Frazier's reaction to that strikeout, lol.

CySeymour
08-08-2012, 03:32 PM
what were your expectations?

Mine were .270-35-100

probably .280/.360/.520 or somewhere around there. His seasons total so far actually isn't totally off base from that, but I had hoped he would be much more consistent. It just seems his stats are living off of one month.

cumberlandreds
08-08-2012, 03:39 PM
Reds lead the series all time against the Brewers 124-110. Just some useless information to think about in the middle of the week.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 03:41 PM
Nice job by Latos after a leadoff walk to Ramirez.

0-0 after 2.

cumberlandreds
08-08-2012, 03:41 PM
A lead off walk is all the Brewers can muster in the 2nd. 0-0 after two.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 03:44 PM
Cairo bloop single to right!

CySeymour
08-08-2012, 03:45 PM
Cairo bloop single to right!

Rally!

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 03:45 PM
Navarro! :jump:


2-0 Reds!

cumberlandreds
08-08-2012, 03:45 PM
Hey! Hey! A Navarro HR!!! 2-0 Reds

OnBaseMachine
08-08-2012, 03:46 PM
I haven't read the thread yet so maybe someone already covered this, but why did Dusty pick today to give Cozart and Stubbs a day off? Cozart is hitting .281/.317/.427 - .744 vs LHP (.680 vs RHP) and Stubbs is hitting .300/.347/.544 - .891 OPS vs RHP (.637 vs RHP). That makes zero sense to me.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 03:46 PM
Slugger Latos with a single up the middle.

cumberlandreds
08-08-2012, 03:46 PM
Latos singles.

CySeymour
08-08-2012, 03:46 PM
Two run dinger! Yeah, baby!

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 03:50 PM
Heisey K's
Valdez FC to third, Latos out at 2nd
BP singles to center
Bruce grounds out to first

Reds leave 2 on


2-0 Reds to the bottom of 3.

Homer Bailey
08-08-2012, 03:55 PM
Yikes. Bruce's lack of hustle costs him an infield hit there. Throw went high, Wolf leaped to catch it, and tagged out a jogging Bruce. Lord knows I'm a huge Bruce supporter, but that is really disappointing.

Kc61
08-08-2012, 03:56 PM
I haven't read the thread yet so maybe someone already covered this, but why did Dusty pick today to give Cozart and Stubbs a day off? Cozart is hitting .281/.317/.427 - .744 vs LHP (.680 vs RHP) and Stubbs is hitting .300/.347/.544 - .891 OPS vs RHP (.637 vs RHP). That makes zero sense to me.

I commented about Stubbs and Hanigan sitting against the lefty. Hanigan has a big split between lefty/righty.

Somebody posted an article about Dusty addressing the Hanigan thing, saying he needs to get him fresher and plans to play Mes two games in Chicago. And, of course, Navarro homered so who needs Hanigan today (joke).

As for Stubbs, I agree that it is odd timing.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 03:56 PM
They're showing footage of Joey running and sliding...looks good to me. :dunno:

cincrazy
08-08-2012, 03:58 PM
Yikes. Bruce's lack of hustle costs him an infield hit there. Throw went high, Wolf leaped to catch it, and tagged out a jogging Bruce. Lord knows I'm a huge Bruce supporter, but that is really disappointing.

Something just isn't right with him this season. He just seems out of sorts mentally. That could be any number of things, on or off the field. But I actually think he's taken a small step back this year instead of a leap forward, which is disappointing. Still a productive player, but not having the season a lot of us hoped for.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 04:00 PM
Segura grounded out to third
Wolf flied out to right
Aoki bloop half-swing single to left
Gomez grounds out to short

2-0 Reds after 3.

cincrazy
08-08-2012, 04:05 PM
I haven't read the thread yet so maybe someone already covered this, but why did Dusty pick today to give Cozart and Stubbs a day off? Cozart is hitting .281/.317/.427 - .744 vs LHP (.680 vs RHP) and Stubbs is hitting .300/.347/.544 - .891 OPS vs RHP (.637 vs RHP). That makes zero sense to me.

I agree on Stubbs, I think he should be in the lineup over Heisey. But I don't mind Valdez over Cozart. Cozart's really been struggling, and even though he hits lefties better than he does righties, it's not like he tears them up like Stubbs does. And the best bet of getting some production out of Valdez is against a lefty I would think.

dsmith421
08-08-2012, 04:07 PM
I really like Aoki. Seems like a very useful ballplayer. I'd say we should have tried to acquire him, but given his contract and his skill set I don't know why Milwaukee would want to move him.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 04:09 PM
Ludwick flies out to left
Frazier K's
Cairo hits one hard up the middle but Wolf snags it and throws him out


2-0 Reds to the bottom of 4

Kc61
08-08-2012, 04:12 PM
I agree on Stubbs, I think he should be in the lineup over Heisey. But I don't mind Valdez over Cozart. Cozart's really been struggling, and even though he hits lefties better than he does righties, it's not like he tears them up like Stubbs does. And the best bet of getting some production out of Valdez is against a lefty I would think.

Cozart has had his problems, I agree, but right now he's pretty hot. He's OPS'd .922 for the last seven games and I thought he was terrific in the Pirates series.

The guy who needs some bench time is Todd Frazier. He's hitting .160 with a .542 OPS over the last seven games and he's fanned twice today. He looks tired to me, or just not his usual feisty self. But I guess resting Rolen, day game after night game, took precedence. When Votto comes back, maybe Todd will get some days off.

OnBaseMachine
08-08-2012, 04:18 PM
Latos has fanned Braun twice today.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 04:18 PM
1-2-3 for Latos

2-0 Reds after 4

OnBaseMachine
08-08-2012, 04:23 PM
Latos is also 2-for-2 at the plate today.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 04:24 PM
Navarro flied out to center
Latos singled to shallow center
Heisey lined out to third
Valdez K's

2-0 Reds to the bottom of 5

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 04:28 PM
Frazier seems to be doing his best Rolen impression today, gotta figure he's learned quite a bit from Scotty. :)

OnBaseMachine
08-08-2012, 04:31 PM
Two quick outs as Latos gets Weeks and Maldonado to ground out to Frazier.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 04:33 PM
n/m

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 04:34 PM
Wolf K's

2-0 Reds after 5

OnBaseMachine
08-08-2012, 04:34 PM
5 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 5 K, and 71 pitches for Latos.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 04:39 PM
Wolf with a curve that registered at 49 MPH according to Welsh :lol:

Doc. Scott
08-08-2012, 04:39 PM
Gameday says Wolf's sixth pitch to Brandon Phillips was an eephus. Seriously?

VR
08-08-2012, 04:40 PM
Gameday says Wolf's sixth pitch to Brandon Phillips was an eephus. Seriously?

Where's Tony Perez when you need him?

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 04:44 PM
BP walks
Bruce K's
Ludwick singles, BP goes to third

MikeS21
08-08-2012, 04:44 PM
Gameday says Wolf's sixth pitch to Brandon Phillips was an eephus. Seriously?
Supposedly, an "eephus" is a junk pitch, thrown at a velocity of 55 mph or less. It is thrown as a normal pitch, but approaches the plate at a slow velocity.

Come to think of it, that's the only pitch I have ever thrown ...

Doc. Scott
08-08-2012, 04:45 PM
Supposedly, an "eephus" is a junk pitch, thrown at a velocity of 55 mph or less. It is thrown as a normal pitch, but approaches the plate at a slow velocity.

Come to think of it, that's the only pitch I have ever thrown ...

I know what it is/was, I was just fascinated that a) that's the descriptive term Gameday would use, and b) Randy Wolf apparently throws one, either deliberately or not.

reds44
08-08-2012, 04:46 PM
Gameday had it a 49 mph! 49!

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 04:46 PM
Frazier walks, bases juiced


Wolf over 100 pitches

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 04:48 PM
Cairo flies out to shallow right, nothing doing. You don't wanna mess with Aoki.

2 out.

OnBaseMachine
08-08-2012, 04:48 PM
Why is Miguel Cairo still on this roster?

MikeS21
08-08-2012, 04:48 PM
I know what it is/was, I was just fascinated that a) that's the descriptive term Gameday would use, and b) Randy Wolf apparently throws one, either deliberately or not.
lol! But I DIDN'T know what it was! At least now I know what my specialty pitch is (deliberate or not, that's ALL I got)! :lol:

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 04:50 PM
jesus. Navarro robbed by Ramirez at 3rd. Reds thus lead them loaded.

2-0 Reds to the bottom of 6.

OnBaseMachine
08-08-2012, 04:50 PM
Aramis Ramirez robs the Reds of three runs. Inning over. Horrible atbat by Cairo.

MikeS21
08-08-2012, 04:51 PM
Aramis Ramirez robs the Reds of three runs. Inning over. Horrible atbat by Cairo.
Interesting ... a week ago, those balls in play were getting by the fielders.

OnBaseMachine
08-08-2012, 04:54 PM
Latos K's Aoki swinging to begin the bottom of the 6th.

OnBaseMachine
08-08-2012, 04:58 PM
Gomez homers to make it 2-1. Not liking where this game is headed. Reds wasted a huge scoring opportunity in the top of the inning.

_Sir_Charles_
08-08-2012, 05:01 PM
2-1 Reds heading to the 7th.

I agree with OBM that we wasted a great opportunity in the top half...but I didn't really see us do anything wrong there. Simply great defense on those last 2 plays by the Brewers.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:04 PM
The Mighty Latos with a leadoff walk

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:06 PM
Aoki kills us again. Bloop single but Latos beaten to 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
08-08-2012, 05:07 PM
Latos had no chance there. Just screwed in no-man's land.

VR
08-08-2012, 05:08 PM
Mat now with a .469 OPS, Miggy at .406.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:08 PM
Valdez FC to Veras but a good slide by Heisey prevents the DP. 2 out.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:12 PM
BP K's

2-1 Reds to the bottom of 7

Kc61
08-08-2012, 05:13 PM
Time to get Marshall/Broxton/Chapman to start thinking about pitching.

_Sir_Charles_
08-08-2012, 05:13 PM
Wow...one of the ugliest swings I think I've ever seen. Falling out of the batters box backwards and still swings. Phillips laughing at himself. Sorry Brandon, not funny.

RedFanAlways1966
08-08-2012, 05:14 PM
Gomez homers to make it 2-1. Not liking where this game is headed. Reds wasted a huge scoring opportunity in the top of the inning.

Gomez needs a rude awakening for his display after that HR. An arrogant fling of the bat, a smack of the helmet with left hand as he rounds 2nd, blows a kiss and points to the crowd about 15 feet before touching home... then one more kiss and point after touching home.

Lots of guys have a routine (BP of course), but Gomez crossed the line IMO. Too much.

_Sir_Charles_
08-08-2012, 05:17 PM
As the season has worn on, Frazier is looking more and more comfortable at the hot corner. I know some attribute that to Rolen working with him (and I'm sure that certainly can't hurt) but I think more reps is what it's mostly attributed to. I'm still surprised some people kept trying to convince me that his best position was LF.

OnBaseMachine
08-08-2012, 05:18 PM
Hart grounded out to Frazier and Weeks struck out. 7th K for Latos. Two outs in the 7th. Reds still up 2-1.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:19 PM
1-2-3 for Latos

2-1 Reds after 7

Chip R
08-08-2012, 05:19 PM
1-2-3 for Latos

2-1 Reds after 7

Keep him in or bring in Broxton?

OnBaseMachine
08-08-2012, 05:20 PM
Latos K's Maldonado to end the 7th.

7 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 8 K, 97 pitches for Latos. I'd send him out for the 8th but pull him if he allows a baserunner.

kaldaniels
08-08-2012, 05:20 PM
Hopefully Chapman will pitch to Gomez.

Brutus
08-08-2012, 05:20 PM
Latos definitely has been looking more like the guy the Reds hoped they'd acquire here in the past several weeks. That's encouraging. I feel really good about Cueto-Latos at the top. I just hope Homer/Leake would be more consistent. Arroyo is what he is at this point, though I don't say that in a bad way.

_Sir_Charles_
08-08-2012, 05:21 PM
Latos is just looking great today. Only odd thing I've seen is the high number of breaking balls he's thrown into the dirt in front of home plate. Considerably in front of it.

And yes, I send him back out.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:21 PM
It's a tough call, but I'm with OBM, I think I send Latos back out and pull him if they get somebody on.

Chip R
08-08-2012, 05:22 PM
Latos is just looking great today. Only odd thing I've seen is the high number of breaking balls he's thrown into the dirt in front of home plate. Considerably in front of it.


He was like that last time.

kaldaniels
08-08-2012, 05:22 PM
I'd take the 7 IP 1 R from Mat and call it a day. Let Brox and Chap finish it.

Can't argue with the contrary however.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:23 PM
Latos definitely has been looking more like the guy the Reds hoped they'd acquire here in the past several weeks. That's encouraging. I feel really good about Cueto-Latos at the top. I just hope Homer/Leake would be more consistent. Arroyo is what he is at this point, though I don't say that in a bad way.
So you're saying it WASN'T the worst trade in Reds history?

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:25 PM
Bruce grounds out to 2nd
Ludwick K's
Frazier flies out to left

2-1 Reds to the bottom of 8

Kc61
08-08-2012, 05:27 PM
There's a voice I hear in the background someplace whispering. "Joey, where are you?"

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:29 PM
There's a voice I hear in the background someplace whispering. "Joey, where are you?"
Out shopping for fancy clothes and expensive coffee.


Or in the dugout. Either one.

Brutus
08-08-2012, 05:29 PM
So you're saying it WASN'T the worst trade in Reds history?

As daring as that is, I suppose that is one way of putting it lol

:thumbup:

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:29 PM
Latos out, Broxton in.

Kc61
08-08-2012, 05:30 PM
Just get Marshall ready for Aoki.

Homer Bailey
08-08-2012, 05:30 PM
Brox is in.

OnBaseMachine
08-08-2012, 05:33 PM
Latos was cruising and was only at 97 pitches. I would have left him in.

Kc61
08-08-2012, 05:35 PM
Latos was cruising and was only at 97 pitches. I would have left him in.

Me too.

Homer Bailey
08-08-2012, 05:37 PM
Two down.

_Sir_Charles_
08-08-2012, 05:37 PM
Latos was cruising and was only at 97 pitches. I would have left him in.

I would've leaned that way too. But it's kinda hard to argue with pulling him. Best pen in the bigs, 1 run game...

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:39 PM
Broxton gets the first two, but now another patented Aoki swinging bunt fora single.

_Sir_Charles_
08-08-2012, 05:40 PM
Color me unimpressed with Navarro's catching techniques. Too much reaching, too little feet movement. He does block the ball pretty decently, but he rarely gloves those balls in the dirt...just keeps them in front of him. I guess I'm spoiled from watching Hanny.

Kc61
08-08-2012, 05:40 PM
Keep it in the park.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:41 PM
Aoki, Aoki, Aoki...

_Sir_Charles_
08-08-2012, 05:42 PM
Crud. Broxton nearly puts one in the batters ear. Then Navarro throws it into center. Aoki to third.

OnBaseMachine
08-08-2012, 05:42 PM
Tie game.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:42 PM
tie game

Degenerate39
08-08-2012, 05:43 PM
Janish would've had that

Doc. Scott
08-08-2012, 05:43 PM
Crappy throw, bloop single. Bad luck.

Homer Bailey
08-08-2012, 05:43 PM
Wow that is a tough one to take.

Cozart probably has that ball.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:43 PM
:bang:

_Sir_Charles_
08-08-2012, 05:44 PM
Crappy throw, bloop single. Bad luck.

Broxton's got to want to pull his hair out. Really crummy luck there.

Always Red
08-08-2012, 05:44 PM
Is Brox that bad at holding runner on, or is Navarro that bad defensively?

_Sir_Charles_
08-08-2012, 05:44 PM
SB. Navarro drops another one. I can't wait to get Mes back.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:44 PM
Don't forget this started with a stupid swinging bunt hit with 2 outs. :(

alloverjr
08-08-2012, 05:45 PM
Score 2 runs. You just ask for little things to beat you. This was Randy Wolf.

bucksfan2
08-08-2012, 05:45 PM
Paging Joey Votto, Paging Mr. Votto.

OnBaseMachine
08-08-2012, 05:45 PM
Losing 3-2.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:45 PM
jesus christ

Degenerate39
08-08-2012, 05:46 PM
Stupid lose

kbrake
08-08-2012, 05:46 PM
Score 2 runs. You just ask for little things to beat you. This was Randy Wolf.

Yep. This offense is just so limited. Even with Votto.

OldXOhio
08-08-2012, 05:47 PM
Remember that run of bad luck & losses that we feared would come after the hot streak?

Homer Bailey
08-08-2012, 05:47 PM
Not having Stubbs-Cozart in the field killed the Reds this inning. But we know those guys in their late 20's need their rest.

And now Ondrusek. Sweet.

Brutus
08-08-2012, 05:47 PM
I suppose when a team wins 22 of 25 games, it naturally is going to use up its fair share of fortuitous bounces. Now the delicate balance of nature is thumbing its nose at the Reds for being too generous in the first place.

OnBaseMachine
08-08-2012, 05:47 PM
Latos was pretty much just dominating. There was no reason to pull him. But you can pin this one on the offense too. Bases loaded, one out, and nothing to show for it.

_Sir_Charles_
08-08-2012, 05:48 PM
Not having Stubbs-Cozart in the field killed the Reds this inning. But we know those guys in their late 20's need their rest.

And now Ondrusek. Sweet.

Stubbs is in center. Came in on a double switch when Broxton came in.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:49 PM
Latos was pretty much just dominating. There was no reason to pull him.
He pitched 7 innings, about 100 pitches, and we have the best bullpen in the majors. Aoki just made contact and got on base with two outs. I'm mad as anyone about this game but pulling Latos was a coin toss.

edabbs44
08-08-2012, 05:49 PM
Stubbs is in center. Came in on a double switch when Broxton came in.

Forget it, he's rolling.

_Sir_Charles_
08-08-2012, 05:50 PM
Latos was pretty much just dominating. There was no reason to pull him. But you can pin this one on the offense too. Bases loaded, one out, and nothing to show for it.

No reason? Well he was right at 100 pitches and the pen has been absolutely nails.

And sure, you could blame the offense, but I think you've got to hand out equal portions of responsibility there to the Brewers defense. They've played VERY well today with the leather.

Homer Bailey
08-08-2012, 05:50 PM
Stubbs is in center. Came in on a double switch when Broxton came in.

All I saw was what looked like Heisey diving. Watching on my phone is less than optimal. Where was the ball hit?

Kc61
08-08-2012, 05:50 PM
Thing about Broxton, he doesn't put guys away. So a lot of balls are hit. And luck plays its role, today bad.

I would have put Marshall in to face Aoki, as I said before.

Welsh asking why the NEW pitcher throws the intentional walk. Announcers always say the earlier pitcher should do it.

Reason must be that you can remove a pitcher after he faces one batter.

Bad game so far.

_Sir_Charles_
08-08-2012, 05:51 PM
Forget it, he's rolling.

Nice edabbs

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VR
08-08-2012, 05:51 PM
Stubbs is in center. Came in on a double switch when Broxton came in.

Absolutely classic. Stubbs would have had that one!!! :lol:

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 05:52 PM
All I saw was what looked like Heisey diving. Watching on my phone is less than optimal. Where was the ball hit?
to left, where Heisey is playing

_Sir_Charles_
08-08-2012, 05:52 PM
All I saw was what looked like Heisey diving. Watching on my phone is less than optimal. Where was the ball hit?

It was hit in front of Heisey. It was his play all along. But yes, Stubbs was in center.

But to be fair.....Janish would've had that. *grin*

Homer Bailey
08-08-2012, 05:54 PM
It was hit in front of Heisey. It was his play all along. But yes, Stubbs was in center.

But to be fair.....Janish would've had that. *grin*

Gotcha. I was wrong there. Guess I shouldn't have said that having only seen a zoomed in replay.

Brutus
08-08-2012, 05:54 PM
After a 22-3 stretch, who didn't expect everything to go wrong at some point? It was bound to happen. Hopefully it just doesn't happen for too long.

edabbs44
08-08-2012, 05:56 PM
After a 22-3 stretch, who didn't expect everything to go wrong at some point? It was bound to happen. Hopefully it just doesn't happen for too long.

More importantly, the Cards and Pirates were almost equally as hot as Cincy. They will likely cool off as well.

Homer Bailey
08-08-2012, 05:59 PM
Two down, no balls put into play.

wheels
08-08-2012, 06:01 PM
I'm getting a 1999 feeling again. In a bad way.

_Sir_Charles_
08-08-2012, 06:02 PM
Drew works the walk.

Hollcat
08-08-2012, 06:02 PM
Steal second base!

WVRedsFan
08-08-2012, 06:03 PM
Good thing we had that 5.5 game lead

dsmith421
08-08-2012, 06:04 PM
Walt needed to upgrade the bench and he still does. Now would be a good time.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 06:04 PM
Well this one hurt

A lot.

Swept in Milwaukee. We're still bad.


Go kill the Cubs.

WVRedsFan
08-08-2012, 06:04 PM
Bad sweep

alloverjr
08-08-2012, 06:05 PM
Hope that team chemistry is still good. :laugh:

Kc61
08-08-2012, 06:06 PM
Reds scored six runs in that series.

_Sir_Charles_
08-08-2012, 06:06 PM
Pbtbtbtbtbtbtbtbtb!

And that's all I have to say about this one. :(

REDREAD
08-08-2012, 06:06 PM
Well this one hurt

A lot.

Swept in Milwaukee. We're still bad.


Go kill the Cubs.

Milwaukee always seems to step it up when they are in a spoiler role vs us.
It's really annoying.

Hopefully Pitt loses tonight.

dsmith421
08-08-2012, 06:07 PM
What's worse is that we just lost Cueto and Latos's starts. The rest of those guys have been marginal recently.

Kc61
08-08-2012, 06:08 PM
What's worse is that we just lost Cueto and Latos's starts. The rest of those guys have been marginal recently.

Back of the rotation is due for resurgence. Better be. Not exactly facing Walter Johnson in the Cub series, should be able to score a few more than in Milwaukee.

Hollcat
08-08-2012, 06:08 PM
8 runs last four games!
at least it's still a 5.5 game lead in the wild card race

WVRedsFan
08-08-2012, 06:09 PM
Milwaukee always seems to step it up when they are in a spoiler role vs us.
It's really annoying.

Hopefully Pitt loses tonight.

Fingers crossed.

Tom Servo
08-08-2012, 06:09 PM
8 runs last four games!
at least it's still a 5.5 game lead in the wild card race
Wildcard is a last ditch resort. Division or bust.

Brutus
08-08-2012, 06:10 PM
I don't worry much about this offense. There is still that guy named Votto that will be back soon. I hear he's pretty good. The Reds most certainly did more without him than anyone could have ever expected. Now he'll be back soon and the offense will be fine. Not great, but good enough to get them winning again.

Kc61
08-08-2012, 06:12 PM
The Reds now face Volstad with a 7.22 ERA. Justin Germano who has a lifetime 4.83 in the majors. Travis Wood who is 4-8 with a 4.77. And Brooks Raley, a lefty in his second career start who got hit hard the first time.

I mean, it's time to win some games.

WVRedsFan
08-08-2012, 06:19 PM
What's worse is that we just lost Cueto and Latos's starts. The rest of those guys have been marginal recently.

Those guys pitched well enough to win. So did Milwaukee. Someone told me last night that we were facing Wolf and he would prove why Milwaukee was nor a good team. Surprise. Apparently the bats have cooled off. Top five today were 2-20. Brutal. Of course a lineup that features Heisey (0-5), Valdez (0-4), Bruce (0-4), etc couldn't beat many teams (the way Bruce is playing). Then the bullpen fails. Bad luck. Hope it ends soon. And it will. It's the law of averages.

Homer Bailey
08-08-2012, 06:19 PM
Reds will be fine. 22-7 their last 29. 16-7 without Votto. The order of those happening is less important than the fact that its awesome that they did this.

757690
08-08-2012, 06:38 PM
My memory of Broxton seems to be correct. He's fine most of the time, but doesn't handle adversity well. Some bad luck there, but it seemed liked that swinging bunt by Aoki with two outs really threw him, compounded but the Navarro throwing error.

I am not looking forward to seeing him close out close games.

PuffyPig
08-08-2012, 07:51 PM
My memory of Broxton seems to be correct. He's fine most of the time, but doesn't handle adversity well. Some bad luck there, but it seemed liked that swinging bunt by Aoki with two outs really threw him, compounded but the Navarro throwing error.

I am not looking forward to seeing him close out close games.

Threw him?

He gave up 3 lucky singles.

It's not like the initial luck was followed by two gap doubles or a HR.

The Reds have hit into horendous luck the last 3 days. It was likely due.

We were ovbiously lucky during the 22-3 run, as even the best team in the world can't do that without a healthy dose of luck.

CySeymour
08-09-2012, 10:55 AM
Is Navarro really that bad defensively or did he just have a bad day?

Big Klu
08-09-2012, 11:06 AM
Is Navarro really that bad defensively or did he just have a bad day?

I was thinking the same thing. He certainly has been less than impressive since his arrival from Louisville.

CySeymour
08-09-2012, 11:23 AM
I was thinking the same thing. He certainly has been less than impressive since his arrival from Louisville.

If he is really that bad, then next time the team needs another catcher, I say bring Corky back. Sure he can't hit, but he won't hurt you behind the dish.

cumberlandreds
08-09-2012, 11:58 AM
Is Navarro really that bad defensively or did he just have a bad day?

There is a reason he had to accept a minor league assignment from the Reds. Good defensive catchers are hard to find and that no one was willing to sign him to a major league deal says a lot. I would say he's that bad.