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cumberlandreds
08-14-2012, 03:50 PM
No Rolen again.


1. Zack Cozart (R) SS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=cozarza01&year=Career&t=b)
2. Drew Stubbs (R) CF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=stubbdr01&year=Career&t=b)
3. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=phillbr01&year=Career&t=b)
4. Ryan Ludwick (R) LF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=ludwiry01&year=Career&t=b)
5. Jay Bruce (L) RF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=bruceja01&year=Career&t=b)
6. Todd Frazier (R) 1B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=frazito01&year=Career&t=b)
7. Wilson Valdez (R) 3B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=valdewi01&year=Career&t=b)
8. Ryan Hanigan (R) C (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=hanigry01&year=Career&t=b)
9. Mat Latos (R) P (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=latosma01&year=Career&t=b)

cumberlandreds
08-14-2012, 03:52 PM
I am worried about this series. At the end of the broadcast Sunday it was mentioned Goerge Grande would be doing this series. I doesn't seem like he has announced a winning Reds game this season. :eek:

WVRedsFan
08-14-2012, 04:03 PM
I can't figure this out. With five announcers (Thom, Marty, Chris, The Cowboy, and Kelch), where is there room for George and why? I listened to Charlie Steiner call the Dodger-Pirates game last night and parts of the White Sox game on TV. IN both cases, the announcer was a homer, but professional. George is, at best, a baseball fan, who gives credit for the opposition's great feats. Something I do not want to hear when I'm rooting for the Reds, I guess the ownership likes him, but I'd just as soon he went away to the retirement home, which is what I thought was going to happen. Yes, we have Marty, but not so much anymore, but there hasn't been a time he wasn't rooting for the Reds. Just like Vince Scully, you know who's side Marty is on. I never know with George...

reds1869
08-14-2012, 04:05 PM
I really wish they would retroactively DL Rolen. Going without a player for a few days is one thing, but going shorthanded when you are already running with a skeleton crew is tough. The Reds like to let a guy linger day-to-day long enough that they would almost be done with a DL stint when they are ready to return.

CySeymour
08-14-2012, 04:07 PM
I really wish they would retroactively DL Rolen. Going without a player for a few days is one thing, but going shorthanded when you are already running with a skeleton crew is tough. The Reds like to let a guy linger day-to-day long enough that they would almost be done with a DL stint when they are ready to return.

Is it totally a 40 roster situation?

reds1869
08-14-2012, 04:12 PM
Is it totally a 40 roster situation?

I doubt it. Several AAA infielders are on the 40 man. No reason not to pull one of them up for two weeks.

Puffy
08-14-2012, 04:41 PM
I am worried about this series. At the end of the broadcast Sunday it was mentioned Goerge Grande would be doing this series. I doesn't seem like he has announced a winning Reds game this season. :eek:

Crap. Looks like I will listen to the Mets feed.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 04:43 PM
I doubt Rolen will be out much longer. If they expect him to be out much more, I do think the Reds would have DL'd him. Maybe he can pinch hit tonight.

Henry Rodriguez has been slumping at AAA, I don't know the Reds have a natural replacement for third base. They could add a first baseman and play Frazier at third. Reds may prefer Valdez at third because of defense.

With RADickey tomorrow, Reds certainly could use this first game. Third game they face rookie Harvey, good stuff, mixed results so far. Lot of Ks, lot of walks.

For tomorrow, against Dickey, I'd guess Xavier Paul will play for Ludwick; as will Cairo instead of Valdez. I'd also guess Stubbs will sit for Heisey.

cumberlandreds
08-14-2012, 05:43 PM
Meet your Mets:

1. Ruben Tejada (R) SS

2. Mike Baxter (L) RF

3. David Wright (R) 3B

4. Ike Davis (L) 1B

5. Daniel Murphy (L) 2B

6. Jordany Valdespin (L) LF

7. Andres Torres (S) CF

8. Josh Thole (L) C

9. Chris Young (R) P

Kc61
08-14-2012, 05:49 PM
Meet your Mets:

1. Ruben Tejada (R) SS

2. Mike Baxter (L) RF

3. David Wright (R) 3B

4. Ike Davis (L) 1B

5. Daniel Murphy (L) 2B

6. Jordany Valdespin (L) LF

7. Andres Torres (S) CF

8. Josh Thole (L) C

9. Chris Young (R) P

The lefty brigade. Latos fares better against righties, although he's been tough on everyone lately. Overall Latos has some trouble with lefties.

Mets with a lefty hitting team, that should help Homer B on Thursday, Homer has been excellent against lefties this year.

traderumor
08-14-2012, 06:49 PM
The lefty brigade. Latos fares better against righties, although he's been tough on everyone lately. Overall Latos has some trouble with lefties.

Mets with a lefty hitting team, that should help Homer B on Thursday, Homer has been excellent against lefties this year.hopefully because its a collection of mediocre/bad lefty hitters, Latos will be in charge.

Sabo Fan
08-14-2012, 07:40 PM
No Rolen again.


1. Zack Cozart (R) SS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=cozarza01&year=Career&t=b)
2. Drew Stubbs (R) CF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=stubbdr01&year=Career&t=b)
3. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=phillbr01&year=Career&t=b)
4. Ryan Ludwick (R) LF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=ludwiry01&year=Career&t=b)
5. Jay Bruce (L) RF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=bruceja01&year=Career&t=b)
6. Todd Frazier (R) 1B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=frazito01&year=Career&t=b)
7. Wilson Valdez (R) 3B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=valdewi01&year=Career&t=b)
8. Ryan Hanigan (R) C (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=hanigry01&year=Career&t=b)
9. Mat Latos (R) P (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=latosma01&year=Career&t=b)

The bad news: Valdez is playing

The good news: he's not hitting second.

At least it's progress. Maybe.

I still think Rolen should be DL'd and Overbay signed to play 1st for a week.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:12 PM
Tejada grounds out to 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:14 PM
Baxter fiies out to left.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:17 PM
Wright strikes out swinging. 0-0 mid 1st.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:20 PM
Cozart lines a single to left.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:23 PM
Stubbs flies out to left.

Screwball
08-14-2012, 08:24 PM
Stubbs flies out to left.

Young got away with two 85-mph fastballs right down the middle that at-bat. Stubbs should've done much better than a pop up.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:25 PM
Phillips strikes out swinging.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:27 PM
Ludwick grounds out to 3rd. 0-0 after 1.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:31 PM
Davis pops out to 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:32 PM
Murphy lines out to 2nd.

BCubb2003
08-14-2012, 08:35 PM
Excellent defense by the ball boy.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:36 PM
Valdespin singles to center.

Screwball
08-14-2012, 08:38 PM
Excellent defense by the ball boy.

Purely anecdotal. Do you have any UZR info to back that up? ;)

BCubb2003
08-14-2012, 08:41 PM
Purely anecdotal. Do you have any UZR info to back that up? ;)

Jim Edmonds would have dove, but he made it look easy.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:43 PM
Torres reached on catcher's interference.

Thole lines out to left. 0-0 mid 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:45 PM
Bruce lines a double off the wall in right.

Screwball
08-14-2012, 08:46 PM
Bruce lines a double off the wall in right.

That's more like it. Young's stuff is terrible. Reds need to beat up on this guy.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:46 PM
Frazier pops out to 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:47 PM
That's more like it. Young's stuff is terrible. Reds need to beat up on this guy.

Yes Frazier should have crushed that last pitch. A hanger right down the middle.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:48 PM
Valdez strikes out looking.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:49 PM
Intentional walk to Hanigan

Homer Bailey
08-14-2012, 08:49 PM
85 MPH fastball, and Valdez is caught looking.

Na, we're good. No need for Overbay.

Homer Bailey
08-14-2012, 08:51 PM
Aroldis Chapman has thrown sliders 9 MPH faster than Chris Young's fastball.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:51 PM
Latos strikes out swinging. 0-0 after 2.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:55 PM
Young flies out to right.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 08:55 PM
I think Jay Bruce is going to catch fire at home. Hopefully it lasts for the rest of the season. Bruce has good lifetime numbers in the late part of the season and, of course, at home.

Too bad about that last inning. Frazier missed the pitch and Valdez doesn't hit much.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:56 PM
Tejada doubles to left.

Screwball
08-14-2012, 08:57 PM
So, do you pitch to Wright here?

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 08:57 PM
Baxter grounds out to 2nd. Runner to 3rd. 2 outs.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 08:58 PM
So, do you pitch to Wright here?

You have to pitch to him, Davis is a power lefty up next, but you pitch carefully to Wright.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:00 PM
Wright strikes out looking. 0-0 mid 3rd.

Screwball
08-14-2012, 09:00 PM
You have to pitch to him, Davis is a power lefty up next, but you pitch carefully to Wright.

Good call. Latos pitched him tough, painting the black for strike three.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:00 PM
Wright Ks looking.

Latos has been sensational lately, Reds need to start scoring runs for him.

Homer Bailey
08-14-2012, 09:01 PM
Love me some Latos.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:03 PM
Cozart doubles off the wall in left center.

Degenerate39
08-14-2012, 09:03 PM
Cozart padding his doubles record

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:03 PM
Mets TV announcers commenting that it's odd Reds have two low OBP hitters at the top of the order.

Tell me about it.

Another lead off double for the Reds.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:04 PM
Stubbs sacrifices the runner to 3rd.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:05 PM
Stubbs bunts the runner to third. I hate the bunt there, but Stubbs could easily K.

It was the right call - but only if it works. Otherwise, terrible decision.

Homer Bailey
08-14-2012, 09:05 PM
#bunttowin

BCubb2003
08-14-2012, 09:06 PM
One team gives up an out to get a runner to third, one team concedes a run in hopes of getting an out.

cincrazy
08-14-2012, 09:06 PM
I can't wait until Hamilton is up. That way he can steal second, third, and home.... all on one pitch. Bunting no longer necessary.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:07 PM
Full count on Phillips. Fouls it off.

Walk, first and third, one out, Ludwick up.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:07 PM
Phillips walks. 1st and 3rd.

cincrazy
08-14-2012, 09:08 PM
Extreme flyball pitcher vs. flyball hitter. I like our odds here. Just sayin'.

OldXOhio
08-14-2012, 09:09 PM
Ludwick is going yard tonight

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:09 PM
Ludwick flies out to shallow right. He misses the cutoff man letting Phillips go to 2nd.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:10 PM
I think Cozart would have scored had he tagged up and ran. Bad throw by right fielder. Was shallow, understandable to hold, but. . . .

cincrazy
08-14-2012, 09:11 PM
Extreme flyball pitcher vs. flyball hitter. I like our odds here. Just sayin'.

Well, that's the last time I do that.

Homer Bailey
08-14-2012, 09:12 PM
Well, that's the last time I do that.

Na, I liked it. We're bound to get this guy. Positive thoughts are always good.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:12 PM
Bruce flies out. 0-0 after 3.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:12 PM
Reds with lead off doubles in two consecutive innings and don't score.

One time they played it straight up, one time they bunted.

Where are you Joey?

OldXOhio
08-14-2012, 09:12 PM
More wasted opps, but you have to feel runs are forthcoming.

Homer Bailey
08-14-2012, 09:13 PM
Wait, the pitcher only got two outs right? Why is the inning over?

Oh yeah.... we literally gave them an out. Right.

mbgrayson
08-14-2012, 09:13 PM
After three innings, Reds 0, Mets 0.

Latos at 47 pitches, 37 strikes.
Young at 52 pitches, 33 strikes.

CrackerJack
08-14-2012, 09:14 PM
This team needs to see a psychiatrist, or more pitches

RedsMan3203
08-14-2012, 09:14 PM
Love me some Dallas Latos.

There fixed it for you.

cincrazy
08-14-2012, 09:15 PM
Na, I liked it. We're bound to get this guy. Positive thoughts are always good.

You're right. We're going to get him soon. He's like a righty version of Eric Milton on this ballpark.

Homer Bailey
08-14-2012, 09:15 PM
You're right. We're going to get him soon. He's like a righty version of Eric Milton on this ballpark.

That being said, it doesn't exactly appear as if the Reds are seeing him that well so far tonight.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:16 PM
Leadoff walk to Davis.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:16 PM
Wait, the pitcher only got two outs right? Why is the inning over?

Oh yeah.... we literally gave them an out. Right.

True, but also the Mets played the infield back with Phillips up, man on third.

Brandon seems to be having some trouble with this pitcher. Ultimately walked, but could have knocked in the run with a simple grounder in the infield.

While I didn't like the bunt either, Reds had the middle of the order up, man on third, Mets giving up the run.

Should have scored. Now the Mets with two on, no out.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:17 PM
Murphy singles to right. 1st and 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:18 PM
Perfect bunt by Valdespin. Latos just gets him at first. 2nd and 3rd.

cincrazy
08-14-2012, 09:18 PM
This game just has a feeling to it.

OldXOhio
08-14-2012, 09:18 PM
Now that's how you bunt, you know if you're into that sort of thing

mbgrayson
08-14-2012, 09:18 PM
Latos fastball this inning only hitting 89 to 90. Isn't that low for him?

There, 92...

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:20 PM
This game just has a feeling to it.

Welcome to the Reds offense. Extra base hits, easy. A simple single with men on base. Difficult.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:21 PM
Good pitch. Torres strikes out looking. 3 Ks for Latos.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:21 PM
Big K. Now walk the eighth man. That's what Dusty will do, bags full, pitcher coming up.

NJReds
08-14-2012, 09:21 PM
Nice breaking pitch from Latos.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:21 PM
Yes Intentional walk to Thole

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:22 PM
Pirates and Dodgers are scoreless at Pittsburgh in the second.

cincrazy
08-14-2012, 09:23 PM
HOLY CRAP Brandon Phillips. What a snag. Saved two runs. That almost backfired.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:23 PM
Web gem from Phillips. Great play.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:23 PM
Nice catch by Phillips. 0-0 mid 4th.

NJReds
08-14-2012, 09:23 PM
Thank goodness for BP.

mbgrayson
08-14-2012, 09:23 PM
Young lines out to BP, I thought that was 2 runs...

Homer Bailey
08-14-2012, 09:24 PM
Regardless of whether BP caught that ball or not, that was the right move by Dusty, IMO. And that's from a Dusty "hater".

Sounds like it was a great play by BP.

cincrazy
08-14-2012, 09:25 PM
That's a play that isn't made when BP is out with his calf troubles. A lot of those balls got through that wouldn't have normally made it through.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:27 PM
Frazier pops out to 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:28 PM
Valdez flies out to center.

Brutus
08-14-2012, 09:28 PM
Wait, the pitcher only got two outs right? Why is the inning over?

Oh yeah.... we literally gave them an out. Right.

The Reds increased their chance of scoring a run by 13% with that bunt. If they'd had a normal at-bat and Stubbs had struck out, they would have decreased by 10%. That's a 23% swing by giving up the out there.

Screwball
08-14-2012, 09:29 PM
Valdez flies out to center.

Not quite to the warning track in center. And not trying to pile on the guy (even though I will anyway), but I honestly think that's as far as he can hit a ball.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:29 PM
Hanigan doubles off the wall in right.

mbgrayson
08-14-2012, 09:30 PM
We need to get these doubles all in the SAME inning....

Homer Bailey
08-14-2012, 09:30 PM
The Reds increased their chance of scoring a run by 13% with that bunt. If they'd had a normal at-bat and Stubbs had struck out, they would have decreased by 10%. That's a 23% swing by giving up the out there.

Their win expectancy decreased with that bunt. The point is that the goal shouldn't be to score one run. It should be to avoid outs. It's silly to chase 1 run in the 3rd inning.

BCubb2003
08-14-2012, 09:31 PM
Mets announcers say the possibility of R.A. Dickey winning the Cy Young would be the highlight of the rest of their season.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:31 PM
Dbacks-Cards, Dodgers-Pirates no score.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:31 PM
Walk to Latos. 1st and 2nd.

mbgrayson
08-14-2012, 09:32 PM
Mets announcers say the possibility of R.A. Dickey winning the Cy Young would be the highlight of the rest of their season.
We need to hammer him to help our guy's chances....

Brutus
08-14-2012, 09:33 PM
Their win expectancy decreased with that bunt. The point is that the goal shouldn't be to score one run. It should be to avoid outs. It's silly to chase 1 run in the 3rd inning.

Their run expectancy increased by .3 with a runner at third and one out as opposed to a runner at second and one out. Granted, there's always the chance Stubbs could have reached base, but given his low OBP and propensity to strikeout, I would say that's statistically the correct call.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:34 PM
Cozart flies out to right. 0-0 after 4.

Through 4: Mets have left 6 runners on base, Reds have left 7 runners on base.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:35 PM
This is a LOB fest for the Reds. I didn't love the bunt, but the team has had many chances to score. Including man on third less than two outs when Phillips and Ludwick left the man on.

Key is for Latos to hold the fort, Reds will break through.

P.S. guess it is a LOB fest for the Mets too. But that's not my prob.

mbgrayson
08-14-2012, 09:36 PM
After 4 innings, Reds 0, Mets 0.
Latos at 66 pitches, 46 strikes.
Young at 71 pitches, 45 strikes.

757690
08-14-2012, 09:36 PM
With all these runners left on base, I have a feeling the game will be won on a cheap solo homer.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:38 PM
Tejada flies out to left.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:38 PM
One out. Get the next guy and pitch very carefully to Wright.

757690
08-14-2012, 09:39 PM
Their run expectancy increased by .3 with a runner at third and one out as opposed to a runner at second and one out. Granted, there's always the chance Stubbs could have reached base, but given his low OBP and propensity to strikeout, I would say that's statistically the correct call.

Plus those runs/win expectancy charts are just general guides. The precise situation needs to be considered.

Personally I don't bunt there because Young is very hittable, but I can understand it with Stubbs and his high K rate.

Brutus
08-14-2012, 09:39 PM
Plus those runs/win expectancy charts are just general guides. The precise situation needs to be considered.

Personally I don't bunt there because Young is very hittable, but I can understand it with Stubbs and his high K rate.

If it were most anyone else in the Reds' lineup, I wouldn't be supportive of bunting there. But Stubbs' skillset doesn't lend itself well to advancing runners a high percentage of time.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:40 PM
Dodgers take the lead on the Pirates. Victorino gets the ground ball with men on base, run scores. You know, what the Reds didn't do.

Matt700wlw
08-14-2012, 09:41 PM
The Reds need tonight.

I don't like their chances against R.A. Dickey tomorrow, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:41 PM
Baxter singles to center.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:43 PM
Wright flies out to the track in right. 2 outs.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:44 PM
Wright flies out to deep right. Nice catch Bruce.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:45 PM
Nice play Frazier, inning over.

Good defense by the Reds tonight. Need to hit.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:46 PM
Davis grounds out to 1st. 0-0 mid 5th.

Playadlc
08-14-2012, 09:46 PM
The Reds need tonight.

I don't like their chances against R.A. Dickey tomorrow, and there is nothing wrong with that.

For some reason I think the Reds knock Dickey around tomorrow. Not sure why I think that, just a gut feeling.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:46 PM
Update. 1-0 Dodgers over Pirates, no score DBacks and Cards, both games in third inning.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:47 PM
For some reason I think the Reds knock Dickey around tomorrow. Not sure why I think that, just a gut feeling.

You expecting some trades overnight?

Just joking, go Reds.

Sabo Fan
08-14-2012, 09:47 PM
Is Latos' velocity down tonight? Following on Gameday and I've yet to see a pitch clocked at over 90.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:48 PM
Bloop hit to left for Stubbs.

NJReds
08-14-2012, 09:49 PM
Is Latos' velocity down tonight? Following on Gameday and I've yet to see a pitch clocked at over 90.

The Mets broadcast has some pitches at 92-93. Not a lot, but some.

Tom Servo
08-14-2012, 09:50 PM
ugh

NJReds
08-14-2012, 09:50 PM
Bad baserunning by Stubbs there. Nice play by Murphy, though.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:50 PM
Phillips lines into a 4-3 DP.

Screwball
08-14-2012, 09:51 PM
Reds finding ways to not score tonight.

NJReds
08-14-2012, 09:51 PM
Of course ... another double.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:51 PM
Ludwick lines a double off the wall in left.

Tom Servo
08-14-2012, 09:51 PM
lol of course

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:52 PM
4 straight innings the Reds have lined a double off the wall.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:52 PM
Phillips lines into a 4-3 DP.

FWIW, I thought Stubbs got back to the bag in time. Disagreed with the DP call. Very close.

NJReds
08-14-2012, 09:52 PM
I miss Votto. Hopefully Bruce can come through ... if they pitch to him.

_Sir_Charles_
08-14-2012, 09:53 PM
FWIW, I thought Stubbs got back to the bag in time. Disagreed with the DP call. Very close.

I also don't think it was a bad baserunning move either. That was such a sharp liner, almost any lead and he's toast.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:53 PM
DBacks with a Reds-like missed opportunity against Cards, still no score.

cincrazy
08-14-2012, 09:54 PM
4 straight innings the Reds have lined a double off the wall.

Let's move the fences in! :).

What? Everyone else is doing it!

NJReds
08-14-2012, 09:54 PM
I also don't think it was a bad baserunning move either. That was such a sharp liner, almost any lead and he's toast.

Murphy plays a deep second base, almost on the grass, and that play was right in front of Stubbs. Should've been able to get back.

NJReds
08-14-2012, 09:56 PM
Young gets his first swing and miss on his 85th pitch.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 09:56 PM
Bruce Ks in a very poor at bat.

According to Mets announcers, that was the first swing and miss of the game against Mets pitcher.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:56 PM
Bruce strikes out swinging. Another runner left on base. 0-0 after 5.

Screwball
08-14-2012, 09:56 PM
I don't get it. Bruce roped the first fastball he saw from Young, but after that he's been late on just about every offering. How can you be behind Young's not-so-fastball?

_Sir_Charles_
08-14-2012, 09:57 PM
It looked to me like they were attempting to pitch around Bruce there. And he's hacking at those balls on the outside black or further out? Odd.

alloverjr
08-14-2012, 09:57 PM
I don't get it. Bruce roped the first fastball he saw from Young, but after that he's been late on just about every offering. How can you be behind Young's not-so-fastball?

He's had runners in scoring position the other times

Matt700wlw
08-14-2012, 09:57 PM
For some reason I think the Reds knock Dickey around tomorrow. Not sure why I think that, just a gut feeling.

I hope you're right!

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 09:58 PM
Murphy flies out to left.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 10:00 PM
Mets announcers correct themselves, Bruce K was the first swing and miss against Young in 34 pitches.

Screwball
08-14-2012, 10:00 PM
He's had runners in scoring position the other times

Ha, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:01 PM
Valdespin grounds out to short.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 10:01 PM
Dodgers with bases loaded no outs against Bucs. Let's see if they can hit in the clutch.

alloverjr
08-14-2012, 10:01 PM
Tonight reminds me of the interview with Latos a couple weeks ago when he said it's nice to go out and not think you have to throw a shutout each time after a game where the Reds scored some runs.

Wake up offense, geesh.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:02 PM
Torres grounds out to Latos. Bare handed play. 0-0 mid 6th.

_Sir_Charles_
08-14-2012, 10:03 PM
Latos channeling his inner Phillips. :laugh:

alloverjr
08-14-2012, 10:03 PM
Ha, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

I think he just puts too much pressure on himself.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:04 PM
Frazier flies out to center.

Tom Servo
08-14-2012, 10:04 PM
Wake up offense, geesh.
To be fair they are awake, just not fully in-synch.

alloverjr
08-14-2012, 10:05 PM
BTW, this is Grande's fault. Just go away man.

_Sir_Charles_
08-14-2012, 10:05 PM
Dodgers up 4-0 on the Bucs.

WVRedsFan
08-14-2012, 10:05 PM
4-0 Dodgers

Kc61
08-14-2012, 10:05 PM
Dodgers up 4-0 on Pirates. Cards-Ariz still tied, Cards missed an oppty with man on third.

Playadlc
08-14-2012, 10:06 PM
Anyone know of a good Pirates board?

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:06 PM
Valdez fouls out to 3rd.

_Sir_Charles_
08-14-2012, 10:07 PM
Anyone know of a good Pirates board?

Like that plank they make you walk on the ship? Most of those are oak I think. :p

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:08 PM
Hanigan singles to center.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 10:09 PM
Two hits for Janish tonight.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:10 PM
Latos singles to left center. 1st and 2nd.

cincrazy
08-14-2012, 10:10 PM
Latos a hit... runners at 1st and 2nd with 2 outs for Cozart. Yet ANOTHER opportunity. This is getting old.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 10:10 PM
I would be an impulsive manager. I would put in a runner for Hanigan, he's so slow, we need a run.

Probably a terrible move.

cincrazy
08-14-2012, 10:11 PM
Can anyone on this team hit a breaking ball?

cincrazy
08-14-2012, 10:11 PM
Last two at bats, Young has started off Cozart with two breaking balls for strikes.

kbrake
08-14-2012, 10:12 PM
I would be an impulsive manager. I would put in a runner for Hanigan, he's so slow, we need a run.

Probably a terrible move.

Hahaha exact same way I feel I would act as a General Manager. I would have cut at least half this first place roster by now.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:12 PM
Wild pitch moves the runners to 2nd and 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:13 PM
Cozart walks. Bases loaded for Stubbs. Pitching change.

Screwball
08-14-2012, 10:13 PM
Way to battle back after being down 0-2.

Tom Servo
08-14-2012, 10:14 PM
I wish I had any amount of confidence in our #1 and #2 hitters in the batting order.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:16 PM
Ramon Ramirez in to pitch

Brutus
08-14-2012, 10:16 PM
In six of the eight games in the 5th inning or beyond so far tonight, at least one team is being shut out. One of those nights, I guess. Neither team has scored in the Rangers-Yankees game either.

RedsMan3203
08-14-2012, 10:17 PM
Lets bunt!

Kc61
08-14-2012, 10:17 PM
Holliday puts Cards up by two.

Bucs still trail by 4.

WrongVerb
08-14-2012, 10:17 PM
In six of the eight games in the 5th inning or beyond so far tonight, at least one team is being shut out. One of those nights, I guess. Neither team has scored in the Rangers-Yankees game either.

A lot of aces going tonight?

Tom Servo
08-14-2012, 10:17 PM
fail

cincrazy
08-14-2012, 10:17 PM
This. Is. Pathetic. 12 stranded through six.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 10:18 PM
What is 287?

Number of men left on base by the Reds tonight.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:18 PM
Ugh. Stubbs grounds out to 2nd. 11 left on base. 0-0 after 6.

Playadlc
08-14-2012, 10:18 PM
Unlucky.

Tom Servo
08-14-2012, 10:18 PM
Kinda wish Dusty had pinch hit X-Man for Stubbs.

Plus Plus
08-14-2012, 10:18 PM
For what it's worth, the NL record for most men stranded in a game is 18, and the MLB record is 20.

Blitz Dorsey
08-14-2012, 10:18 PM
Wow do we need replay in baseball. Ball is a foot inside and it's called a strike. Amazing. Give each manager 3 challenges per game. It would take 2 seconds per challenge.

Brutus
08-14-2012, 10:19 PM
Good news... 12 runners on base in six innings.

Bad news... 12 runners left on base in six innings lol

BCubb2003
08-14-2012, 10:19 PM
It takes a pretty good offense to strand a lot of runners.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:19 PM
Everything starts to go bad when George "The Cooler" Grande shows up

_Sir_Charles_
08-14-2012, 10:20 PM
It takes a pretty good offense to strand a lot of runners.

I agree. Just some bad luck/timing tonight. We're hitting well, just not 'timely' hitting. Keep at it and we'll break thru in a big way.

Unfortunate that this inning's rally all started with 2 down. And with the first 2 called "strikes" to Stubbs, his chances were pretty limited.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:21 PM
Thole singles to right.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:22 PM
Cedeno pinch hitting

Kc61
08-14-2012, 10:23 PM
Big play in this game was Stubbs' inability to get back on the Phillips liner. Even though I thought he did get back in time.

Ludwick then doubled, who knows how many runs might have scored.

Frustrating game so far.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:24 PM
Cedeno sacrifices the runner to 2nd.

Gallen5862
08-14-2012, 10:25 PM
Thanks for the pbp.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:26 PM
The next pitch will be pitch 100 for Latos

Kc61
08-14-2012, 10:27 PM
Cards still lead 2-0 mid-fifth. Bucs trail L.A. 4-0 in fifth.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:29 PM
Tejada strikes out looking. The pitch looked outside. 4 Ks for Latos

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:30 PM
Baxter flies out to left. 0-0 mid 7th.

BCubb2003
08-14-2012, 10:32 PM
Excellent game by Latos.

Tom Servo
08-14-2012, 10:32 PM
Alright. It should be Mets bullpen vs. Reds bullpen. C'mon offense.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:32 PM
Bobby Parnell in to pitch

Kc61
08-14-2012, 10:34 PM
Marshall warming. Guess is that Latos pitches to Wright, then a change. Depending on Reds' offense, of course.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:35 PM
Leadoff walk to Phillips. Have to get this run home.

Screwball
08-14-2012, 10:35 PM
Another leadoff man reaches. Reds need to make this one count.

RedsfaninMT
08-14-2012, 10:35 PM
Getting to the point that I dread our leadoff hitter getting on.

Nice AB BP.

_Sir_Charles_
08-14-2012, 10:35 PM
RALLY CAPS! Don 'em fellas!

_Sir_Charles_
08-14-2012, 10:36 PM
LOL. That cracks me up EVERY TIME. Brandon gets back up after diving back into first and he always dusts off his hands on the first baseman's butt. Too funny.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:37 PM
Ludwick strikes out swinging.

Homer Bailey
08-14-2012, 10:37 PM
I still feel quite strongly that the Reds are going to win this game. Have some faith boys.

Brutus
08-14-2012, 10:38 PM
5-0 Dodgers, top of 7th with runners at first & third; one out

Brutus
08-14-2012, 10:38 PM
Correction... top of 6

Tom Servo
08-14-2012, 10:39 PM
yeesh

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:39 PM
Bruce strikes out swinging.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:40 PM
Frazier singles to center. 1st and 3rd.

Homer Bailey
08-14-2012, 10:40 PM
Bruce has no shot if that pitch well off the plate for strike 2 is going to be called a strike.

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:41 PM
Paul hitting for Valdez

Screwball
08-14-2012, 10:41 PM
Atta boy Frazier. X-man's time to shine.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 10:41 PM
LOL, first and third for the Reds. Valdez due up.

XMan will pinch hit.

This game is an OBP correction for the Reds. Lots of men on base. No runs so far.

Homer Bailey
08-14-2012, 10:41 PM
Please do not let Valdez hit for himself here. Thank you Dusty.

Brutus
08-14-2012, 10:41 PM
6-0 Dodgers, mid 6th.

Tony Cloninger
08-14-2012, 10:41 PM
Bruce has no shot beacuse Bruce is just not hitting very well in general.

_Sir_Charles_
08-14-2012, 10:41 PM
Frazier singles to center. 1st and 3rd.

"Need ya on third Brucie!" We need to see more of that 1st to third.

dman
08-14-2012, 10:42 PM
I'm really trying to have some faith in Jay Bruce, but it's at the end of the rope now. He was on that tear early on in the season, but not much since... Somebody wake his Rip Van Winkle of a bat up!!!!!

Screwball
08-14-2012, 10:42 PM
Bruce has no shot if that pitch well off the plate for strike 2 is going to be called a strike.

Yep. Instead of 2-1, it's 1-2 and Bruce has to chase another one out of the zone on strike 3.

kbrake
08-14-2012, 10:42 PM
Paul is going yard.

Tony Cloninger
08-14-2012, 10:42 PM
LOL, first and third for the Reds. Valdez due up.

XMan will pinch hit.

This game is an OBP correction for the Reds. Lots of men on base. No runs so far.

Reminds me of A LOT of games i saw the Reds hit in 1982.....especially April/May/June.

That team actually had #1 BA into June. Yes..i thought BA meant more than it did back then.

Kc61
08-14-2012, 10:44 PM
Cards now up 3-0.

Tom Servo
08-14-2012, 10:45 PM
X-Man Walketh

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:45 PM
Paul walks. Bases loaded for Hanigan

cincrazy
08-14-2012, 10:45 PM
Before the year I was ridden pretty hard for saying David Freese was a better hitter than Jay Bruce. Freese has an .843 OPS this year in a more neutral park, and Bruce has an .811 OPS with an OBP about .40 lower.

cincrazy
08-14-2012, 10:45 PM
I like what I've seen from Paul so far in his short stint. Very good eye. Why can't he buy a start in center or right more often?

George Foster
08-14-2012, 10:45 PM
another quality at bat by Paul....take note Bruce..

Kc61
08-14-2012, 10:46 PM
Before the year I was ridden pretty hard for saying David Freese was a better hitter than Jay Bruce. Freese has an .843 OPS this year in a more neutral park, and Bruce has an .811 OPS with an OBP about .40 lower.

Bruce has a double tonight. Maybe he'll come around. There's plenty of time for a late season hitting streak.

NJReds
08-14-2012, 10:46 PM
Before the year I was ridden pretty hard for saying David Freese was a better hitter than Jay Bruce. Freese has an .843 OPS this year in a more neutral park, and Bruce has an .811 OPS with an OBP about .40 lower.

Bruce has looked overmatched unless he guesses right or gets a mistake pitch. Either he's hiding an injury or he's not what we thought he was going to be.

RedsfaninMT
08-14-2012, 10:46 PM
Before the year I was ridden pretty hard for saying David Freese was a better hitter than Jay Bruce. Freese has an .843 OPS this year in a more neutral park, and Bruce has an .811 OPS with an OBP about .40 lower.

If this weren't a family oriented site, I might comment on that...

Tom Servo
08-14-2012, 10:46 PM
lol

NJReds
08-14-2012, 10:46 PM
Another fail.

cincrazy
08-14-2012, 10:46 PM
Lol. Strand three more. This is incredible.

BCubb2003
08-14-2012, 10:47 PM
At this rate, the game will last forever.

Screwball
08-14-2012, 10:47 PM
What is that, 15 stranded runners?

George Foster
08-14-2012, 10:47 PM
good pitching...hats off..

Degenerate39
08-14-2012, 10:47 PM
I'm sure George is a nice guy but lord I can't stand him

cincrazy
08-14-2012, 10:47 PM
If this weren't a family oriented site, I might comment on that...

What's your point? Pretty sure you can make it while being respectful.

RedsMan3203
08-14-2012, 10:47 PM
Rather get no hit or leave 15 runners on base?

Kc61
08-14-2012, 10:47 PM
Middle of the order up for the Mets. Reds need to get through this half inning. Keep it in the ballpark.

Frustrating game tonight.

Brutus
08-14-2012, 10:47 PM
So 15 left on base without a run. Anyone know the MLB record for base runners stranded without a run?

Reds Fanatic
08-14-2012, 10:48 PM
14 left on base. Pitiful.