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cumberlandreds
08-21-2012, 02:43 PM
Here are tonights lineups. Ludwick and Frazier back in there.


1. Zack Cozart (R) SS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=cozarza01&year=Career&t=b)
2. Drew Stubbs (R) CF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=stubbdr01&year=Career&t=b)
3. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=phillbr01&year=Career&t=b)
4. Ryan Ludwick (R) LF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=ludwiry01&year=Career&t=b)
5. Jay Bruce (L) RF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=bruceja01&year=Career&t=b)
6. Scott Rolen (R) 3B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=rolensc01&year=Career&t=b)
7. Todd Frazier (R) 1B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=frazito01&year=Career&t=b)
8. Ryan Hanigan (R) C (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=hanigry01&year=Career&t=b)
9. Homer Bailey (R) P (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=baileho02&year=Career&t=b)

(http://www.baseballpress.com/lineup_team.php?team=PHI)1. Jimmy Rollins (S) SS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=rolliji01&year=Career&t=b)
2. Juan Pierre (L) LF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=pierrju01&year=Career&t=b)
3. Chase Utley (L) 2B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=utleych01&year=Career&t=b)
4. Ryan Howard (L) 1B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=howarry01&year=Career&t=b)
5. John Mayberry (R) CF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=maybejo02&year=Career&t=b)
6. Domonic Brown (L) RF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=browndo01&year=Career&t=b)
7. Kevin Frandsen (R) 3B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=frandke01&year=Career&t=b)
8. Erik Kratz (R) C (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=kratzer01&year=Career&t=b)
9. Cliff Lee (L) P (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=leecl02&year=Career&t=b)

cumberlandreds
08-21-2012, 03:00 PM
Wouldn't be surprised that Mez's suspension has started since Hanigan is starting.

CySeymour
08-21-2012, 03:04 PM
Wouldn't be surprised that Mez's suspension has started since Hanigan is starting.

Could be. Could also be that Dusty want's to see if having Hanny catch him might snap Homer out of his funk.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 03:12 PM
Could be. Could also be that Dusty want's to see if having Hanny catch him might snap Homer out of his funk.

Just a guess here that Dusty is very unhappy that his team plays so poorly against the Phils. Dusty doesn't like being a doormat for anybody, and I'm guessing he was very displeased last night.

Don't know about Mes' suspension but you'd think after all this time Reds could have worked it out to take place when Bailey and Leake were NOT pitching.

Add to that Cy's very good point that Homer may need a change to help turn him around.

Overall, I think Dusty really wants this game tonight and Hanigan catching may be related to that. Just speculation, obviously.

I'd also speculate that Homer will pitch inside to several batters tonight. And that Marshall and Chapman will be used tonight at the drop of a hat.

reds44
08-21-2012, 03:16 PM
Just a guess here that Dusty is very unhappy that his team plays so poorly against the Phils. Dusty doesn't like being a doormat for anybody, and I'm guessing he was very displeased last night.

Don't know about Mes' suspension but you'd think after all this time Reds could have worked it out to take place when Bailey and Leake were NOT pitching.

Add to that Cy's very good point that Homer may need a change to help turn him around.

Overall, I think Dusty really wants this game tonight and Hanigan catching may be related to that. Just speculation, obviously.

I'd also speculate that Homer will pitch inside to several batters tonight. And that Marshall and Chapman will be used tonight at the drop of a hat.
No. Mesoraco's suspension was announced.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 07:08 PM
Cozart goes 2-2 against Cliff Lee and then fans swinging.

Stubbs goes full then fans swinging.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:11 PM
Cozart and Stubbs doing what they tend to do, but at least they made Lee work.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 07:12 PM
Phillips doubles to right.

And Ludwick flies to right.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:15 PM
16 pitches for Lee. It's a start, but he's a workhorse who won't just be removed at 100 pitches for the sake of it.

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 07:15 PM
From the way Lee is throwing, I'd say 1st pitch swinging is the best strategy.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:17 PM
BP error. Not how you want to start it...

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 07:18 PM
Philadelphia has become like LA used to be for the Reds

PickOff
08-21-2012, 07:18 PM
BP error. Not how you want to start it...

At least the no hitter is still going, though.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:20 PM
Pierre flies out to center

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:22 PM
Utley singles, Rollins was running. 1st and 3rd, 1 out.

PickOff
08-21-2012, 07:24 PM
These next two at bats may just be the biggest of the game.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:25 PM
Howard with a long single off the wall. Rollins scores, Utley to third.

1-0 Philadelphia

1st and 3rd again, 1 out.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 07:25 PM
Ryan Howard wondering if Reds pitchers can throw batting practice to him tomorrow.

RedsfaninMT
08-21-2012, 07:25 PM
BP's flub is looming very large.

reds44
08-21-2012, 07:26 PM
We need another starting pitcher.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:26 PM
We need another starting pitcher.
We need to get the hell out of Philadelphia.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:27 PM
Mayberry K's

p.s. Ludwick gave a foul ball away to Phillies fans. Half expect them to throw it at his head when he turns around and knock him out.

Screwball
08-21-2012, 07:28 PM
We need to get the hell out of Philadelphia.

Yep. We caught them at the wrong time. All their guys are hitting rockets all over the place.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:29 PM
Brown K's looking on 3-2.

1-0 Phillies after 1.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:30 PM
25 pitches for Homer that inning.

SirFelixCat
08-21-2012, 07:31 PM
25 pitches, but a really, really good job of pitching smartly to Mayberry and Brown.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 07:32 PM
Homer settled down nicely there. Has to avoid making it too good to Utley and Howard, those guys can really do damage.

Got lucky that Howard's shot stayed in the park and got a favorable call on that last strikeout.

Only one run, still a ballgame.

PickOff
08-21-2012, 07:33 PM
That called third strike was just in the zone, if it was at all. Looked pretty low to me, but Homer needed that one.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:33 PM
25 pitches, but a really, really good job of pitching smartly to Mayberry and Brown.
Indeed. I was very impressed with the way he didn't walk anyone despite falling behind against several batters.


Bruce K's.
Rolen flies out to right.

Vottomatic
08-21-2012, 07:34 PM
I can't wait to read the Leake vs. Bailey thread later.

George Foster
08-21-2012, 07:34 PM
Lee is hitting his spots early...

Screwball
08-21-2012, 07:35 PM
Anybody else notice the scout behind home plate with the radar gun? He's been clocking Lee all game. Wonder if there's anything to that...

Vottomatic
08-21-2012, 07:35 PM
Lee going for the strikeout record tonight.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 07:36 PM
Frazier has some kind of power.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:36 PM
Frazier doubles off the wall. Just like BP, a two out double.

George Foster
08-21-2012, 07:36 PM
Anybody else notice the scout behind home plate with the radar gun? He's been clocking Lee all game. Wonder if there's anything to that...

what is the order of the weigher(sp?) wire?

another 2 out double...

PickOff
08-21-2012, 07:37 PM
Lee is hitting his spots early...

And Frazier is hitting the spots off the ball - Love to watch this kid bat.

George Foster
08-21-2012, 07:38 PM
with that call this will be a long night

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:38 PM
Hanigan lines out to short.

1-0 bad guys to the bottom of 2.

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 07:38 PM
That called third strike was just in the zone, if it was at all. Looked pretty low to me, but Homer needed that one.

Ump seems to have a low and narrow zone tonight.

Brutus
08-21-2012, 07:38 PM
We need another starting pitcher.

I'm not too worried about it for this year. Leake and Bailey are good enough, especially considering the Reds have built-up a sizeable lead with them. And in the playoffs, they wouldn't likely be starting anyhow.

But next year, I'd certainly like to replace one of them, preferably Bailey, with Chapman. I still think Leake's ceiling is higher than it's given credit for, but he's also younger, has less professional experience, is cheaper and is a good hitter as a bonus.

Vottomatic
08-21-2012, 07:38 PM
Anybody else notice the scout behind home plate with the radar gun? He's been clocking Lee all game. Wonder if there's anything to that...

Yeah, Reds are sending Bailey, Mez, Soto, H-Rod, Gregorius to the Phils for Lee. Phils throwing in $10M per year to cover expenses.

George Foster
08-21-2012, 07:39 PM
Phillies have scored in 8 out of nine innings they have batted in this series.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:41 PM
Frandsen grounds out to short
Kratz K's

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 07:42 PM
Good rebound inning from Bailey. Phillies are playing like everyone thought they would right now.

George Foster
08-21-2012, 07:43 PM
here is a thought...keep Chapman as the closer and convert Madson into a starter.

Does Madson have any ML experience starting?

PickOff
08-21-2012, 07:44 PM
Bailey had a great sequence against Katz. Keep it up, Bailey.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:44 PM
Lee K's

1-0 Phillies after 2

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:49 PM
Bailey K's
Cozart pops up to short center to the 2B
Stubbs K's looking


Cozart and Stubbs didn't look much better than Homer did at the plate.

1-0 Phillies to bottom of 3

Kc61
08-21-2012, 07:52 PM
I have some questions how successful Bailey can be without striking out more hitters or getting more ground balls.

But watching him tonight, I must say, Homer is light years ahead of previous seasons. He is mixing up his pitches well and has made some very good pitches when ahead in the count. He just seems like he knows what he's doing out there.

Earlier this season, it was also good how he got stronger near the end of games.

Just hope something clicks for Homer somewhere along the way. He's a talented guy who just seems an inch away from being a very good pitcher.

Stubbs, c'mon.

George Foster
08-21-2012, 07:52 PM
Stubbs 1 for the last 12 at-bats....here we go again....

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:55 PM
Rollins flies out to center

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 07:56 PM
Going to have to try to make Lee work enough and keep it close to get to the Phillies 'pen, looks like

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:57 PM
Pierre grounds out to 1st

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:58 PM
Utley singles past BP. Same spot as his last one basically.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 07:58 PM
Utley and Howard, Howard and Utley, Utley and Howard, Howard and Utley.

Just don't groove any pitches to them, Homer, you can handle the others.

George Foster
08-21-2012, 07:58 PM
Utley could hit us in hospice....

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 07:59 PM
Howard K's

1-0 Phillies after 3.

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 08:00 PM
Homer settling in a bit

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:04 PM
BP K's
Ludwick flies out to center on the first pitch
Bruce K's


one can sense the Lee complete game coming

Vottomatic
08-21-2012, 08:07 PM
Lee, 7 K's in 4 IP

Kc61
08-21-2012, 08:08 PM
Lee is tough on everyone, especially lefties. Jay has been hot, but Lee's a tough matchup for him.

RedsfaninMT
08-21-2012, 08:10 PM
Billy Hamilton with 2 SB's through 2 innings. I think that ties the record???

klw
08-21-2012, 08:10 PM
Looks like Hamilton has two steals tonight already to tie the MILB record.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:12 PM
Mayberry grounds out to 2nd

Kc61
08-21-2012, 08:13 PM
Hamilton broke the record, three steals.

Homer Bailey
08-21-2012, 08:13 PM
Hamilton just broke the record!

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:14 PM
Brown grounds out to short

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 08:14 PM
Hamilton just broke the record!

:beerme:

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:16 PM
Frandsen singles off Cozart's glove on a jumping effort

Kc61
08-21-2012, 08:16 PM
Quite a jump by Cozart. Great effort by the acrobat.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:18 PM
Kratz grounds out to short.

1-0 Philly after 4.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:22 PM
Phillie fans seem to be really obnoxious about getting a foul ball. That's twice I've seen grown men throw up their arms and act like they're hot stuff for grabbing one.


Rolen flies out to right.
Frazier lines out to left.

Hanigan singles to center.

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 08:23 PM
Phillie fans seem to be really obnoxious about getting a foul ball. That's twice I've seen grown men throw up their arms and act like they're hot stuff for grabbing one.

.

Same guy, wasn't it? The white haired guy with the jersey down in the corner, I think.

Apparently the Reds can't get a hit unless there're two outs!

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:24 PM
Same guy, wasn't it? The white haired guy with the jersey down in the corner, I think.
I just saw the white haired guy, but before it was down the rightfield line that a 30 something guy did it with even more of 'C'MON EVERYBODY, PRAISE ME' look on his face.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:25 PM
Bailey K's. 8th for Lee.

1-0 Phillies to bottom of 5.

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 08:25 PM
I just saw the white haired guy, but before it was down the rightfield line that a 30 something guy did it with even more of 'C'MON EVERYBODY, PRAISE ME' look on his face.

Saw the white haired guy twice but didn't see the guy down the right line.

The Philly fan rep continues to impress - in the wrong way.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 08:26 PM
Same guy, wasn't it? The white haired guy with the jersey down in the corner, I think.

Apparently the Reds can't get a hit unless there're two outs!

That dude better buy a lottery ticket...it was the same guy. He was less exuberant the second time.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:28 PM
Lee K's

Kc61
08-21-2012, 08:29 PM
Cards lead Stros 1-0. Run scored on a balk.

Les Astros.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 08:29 PM
Bailey is settling in against a hot Phillies team. What portion of this statement can be attributed to Ryan Hannigan, who seems to call a pretty good game behind the plate.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:29 PM
Rollins singles to right

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 08:29 PM
Homer over 70 pitches now, with Lee sitting at 64

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 08:30 PM
Bailey is settling in against a hot Phillies team. What portion of this statement can be attributed to Ryan Hannigan, who seems to call a pretty good game behind the plate.

The phillies broadcast (mlb.tv) made a point of saying that Homer's numbers are actually better with Mesoraco than with Hanigan.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:32 PM
Pierre pops up to short

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 08:33 PM
Will Chase Utley rap another one through the hole between 1st and 2nd?

Kc61
08-21-2012, 08:33 PM
The phillies broadcast (mlb.tv) made a point of saying that Homer's numbers are actually better with Mesoraco than with Hanigan.

Since Mes catches him virtually all the time this year, wouldn't the games with Hanigan be a small sample?

Unless they are looking to previous years, when Bailey was younger, had injuries, whatever.

Kind of an odd comparison I think.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:34 PM
Rollins gunned down at 2nd. Great throw by Hanigan.

1-0 Phillies after 5.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 08:34 PM
Brilliant throw by Hanigan.

Wow.

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 08:34 PM
Since Mes catches him virtually all the time this year, wouldn't the games with Hanigan be a small sample?

Unless they are looking to previous years, when Bailey was younger, had injuries, whatever.

Kind of an odd comparison I think.

Just two games this year until tonight.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 08:34 PM
Since Mes catches him virtually all the time this year, wouldn't the games with Hanigan be a small sample?

Unless they are looking to previous years, when Bailey was younger, had injuries, whatever.

Kind of an odd comparison I think.

Was just going to post that. Small sample size...I think on the whole, Hannigan is better caller and thrower behind the dish. But he is normally catching better pitchers on the staff so tough to pull out the numbers.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:37 PM
Cozart singles up the middle

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 08:37 PM
Nice leadoff hit

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:38 PM
Stubbs singles to right

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 08:39 PM
Firing it up

Nice

Kc61
08-21-2012, 08:39 PM
Astros have fallen behind the Cards 4-0 in the first with men on base, inning still going. And this is the Stros best pitcher going.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 08:40 PM
Would you bunt BP here? I might consider it.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 08:40 PM
Would you bunt BP here? I might consider it.

I would not bunt. It's a risk with BP's DPs. But Brandon is doing well this series, hits lefties.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 08:41 PM
Looked like he had a hanger there, and missed it...Dang!

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:43 PM
BP bloop single to center.

Bases juiced, no outs.

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 08:44 PM
Ludwick has to be drooling right now!

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 08:44 PM
Brown and Mayberry are pretty slow in the outfield. Wow. I was amazed how slow Brown looks in right,

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:45 PM
awww jeez. Diving stop at third, Cozart thrown out at home.

Bases loaded, 1 out.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 08:45 PM
Huge play there to get the force. Too bad Lud didn't hit the fly ball.

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 08:45 PM
Hell of a play, very heads up. Gotta give him credit!

WebScorpion
08-21-2012, 08:46 PM
Hell of a play, very heads up. Gotta give him credit!Cozart should not have slid...it was a force out, he should have run full speed across the base.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:47 PM
Bruce GIDP.


Jesus.

kbrake
08-21-2012, 08:47 PM
At least he didn't strike out...

KYRedsFan
08-21-2012, 08:47 PM
sad

dougdirt
08-21-2012, 08:48 PM
And Jay was safe at first.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:48 PM
I hate the Phillies.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 08:48 PM
Ludwick needs to hit the fly ball there.

Bruce can't hit Lee, it's been obvious all night.

When Bruce came up in the key spot, the inning was in jeopardy.

WebScorpion
08-21-2012, 08:48 PM
I sure hope the Phillies don't make it to the playoffs. They own our team. :rolleyes:

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 08:48 PM
And Jay was safe at first.

Agreed - homefield call, there.

Vottomatic
08-21-2012, 08:48 PM
Well, that was a laugher. Unreal.

SirFelixCat
08-21-2012, 08:48 PM
And Jay was safe at first.

Sure thought so too.

KYRedsFan
08-21-2012, 08:48 PM
hope we see a replay.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 08:49 PM
Sure thought so too.

On my big screen, I thought he was out.

klw
08-21-2012, 08:49 PM
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

Darth Vader NO! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s)

dougdirt
08-21-2012, 08:49 PM
I watched it in slow motion, he looked safe to me.It was close though.

reds44
08-21-2012, 08:50 PM
Clearly safe.

KYRedsFan
08-21-2012, 08:50 PM
terrible replays. think he is safe but you gotta see that from glove side

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:50 PM
Utley HBP


apparently

KYRedsFan
08-21-2012, 08:50 PM
another nice call blue

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 08:50 PM
LOL. HBP. Not even close!

reds44
08-21-2012, 08:50 PM
Utley HBP
That brings back bad memories.

redsfaninbsg
08-21-2012, 08:50 PM
Now Utley "hit" again

kbrake
08-21-2012, 08:50 PM
I want Utley smoked with a pitch. This is getting old.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 08:51 PM
These must be the same umps who called Halladay's no hitter in the playoffs.

You remember, every pitch was a called strike no matter where it went.

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 08:51 PM
I want Utley smoked with a pitch. This is getting old.

It didn't even brush his uniform - totally ridiculous.

Utley must be made of glass or something,.

WebScorpion
08-21-2012, 08:51 PM
I want Utley smoked with a pitch. This is getting old.smoke and mirrors... :D That's your no-pain beanball right there.

CrackerJack
08-21-2012, 08:52 PM
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

Darth Vader NO! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s)

Sums it up.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:52 PM
Howard flies out to left

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 08:53 PM
Now Utley "hit" again

Not even close! How can a major league umpire even call that? He can't hear a ball hitting a jersey? Must have taken Utley's word for it.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:53 PM
Mayberry GIDP.


1-0 Team I hate after 6.

WebScorpion
08-21-2012, 08:53 PM
Maybe this will piss off the Reds. I predict they win this one. :thumbup:

Matt700wlw
08-21-2012, 08:53 PM
Next time up, drill Utley, and tell him "that one hit you."

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 08:54 PM
Maybe this will piss off the Reds. I predict they win this one. :thumbup:

Me too! :beerme:

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 08:56 PM
Nice inning for Homer - just 6 pitches. Right at 90 pitches. Lee at 85.

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 08:57 PM
Just showed the throw home that got Cozart - now I think he was safe too!

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 08:57 PM
Rolen leadoff double

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 08:58 PM
and Philly fans rejoice!

Kc61
08-21-2012, 08:58 PM
Just showed the throw home that got Cozart - now I think he was safe too!

Watching live I thought both Cozart and Bruce were out.

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 08:59 PM
Time for Frazier to go yard

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 08:59 PM
Watching live I thought both Cozart and Bruce were out.

I concur KC.

WebScorpion
08-21-2012, 08:59 PM
Name the only 2 positions the Phillies haven't had an All-Star in the 2000's:

I guess Left Field and Catcher.

RedsfaninMT
08-21-2012, 09:00 PM
Name the only 2 positions the Phillies haven't had an All-Star in the 2000's:

I guess Left Field and Catcher.

LF and 3B?

Kc61
08-21-2012, 09:00 PM
LF and 3B?

I think Polanco made it.

WebScorpion
08-21-2012, 09:01 PM
LF and 3B?
Rolen was still their 3B in 2000-2001. Did Abreu play left field or right?

RedsfaninMT
08-21-2012, 09:01 PM
I think Polanco made it.

You're right. He did. Forgot that.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 09:01 PM
Todd Frazier is fast climbing into one of my favorite players on this team. Easy guy to root for.

RedsfaninMT
08-21-2012, 09:01 PM
But so did Ruiz as a C?

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:01 PM
Frazier walks.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 09:02 PM
Do you bunt with Hanigan? He is very, very slow. Risk of DP.

If he swings it could be a DP also.

Tough call.

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 09:03 PM
Todd Frazier is fast climbing into one of my favorite players on this team. Easy guy to root for.

If he played for an east coast team, he'd be the front runner for ROY

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 09:03 PM
If he played for an east coast team, he'd be the front runner for ROY

He's a front runner for ROY in a midwest town!

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:03 PM
Lee at 99 pitches, Phillies have relievers warming.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 09:04 PM
I'm not big on bunting with position players.

But the Reds cannot bunt.

The Operator
08-21-2012, 09:04 PM
This team is really, really bad at bunting.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:04 PM
I'm not big on bunting with position players.

But the Reds cannot bunt.
This. I say don't even bother since they obviously can't do it anyway.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 09:04 PM
5-8 last 8 batters. No bunt!

Kc61
08-21-2012, 09:05 PM
5-8 last 8 batters. No bunt!

Not bunting any more.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 09:06 PM
Not bunting any more.

Only Cueto can bunt.

George Foster
08-21-2012, 09:06 PM
Major league at-bat by hanny

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:06 PM
Hanigan singles up the middle!

1-1 game!

KYRedsFan
08-21-2012, 09:07 PM
HOLLA

The Operator
08-21-2012, 09:07 PM
Yea! 1-1

WVRedsFan
08-21-2012, 09:07 PM
Great AB for Hanny.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:07 PM
Cutoff throw was an error, runners both move to 2nd and 3rd. Still no outs.

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 09:07 PM
There we go!

Let's get some more!

The Operator
08-21-2012, 09:07 PM
The Reds need to do big damage this inning. Go for the kill.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 09:07 PM
Ryan Hanigan, the most underrated player in the history of organized sports, singles home the run, second and third on a misplay.

George Foster
08-21-2012, 09:07 PM
win or lose that is the best at-bat of the year...down 0-2 and battled for like 10 minutes..

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 09:07 PM
And Ryan Howard cannot handle the cutoff which allows both runners to move up. Bailey staying in and no pinch hitter.

PuffyPig
08-21-2012, 09:07 PM
3 great AB's by the Reds.....

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:08 PM
Lee staying in, Homer staying in.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 09:08 PM
Howard is a shadow of himself in the field. Looks like he is still hurting.

LoganBuck
08-21-2012, 09:09 PM
More faith in Homer than Valdez or Cairo

Kc61
08-21-2012, 09:09 PM
Don't see how you can let Bailey hit here. Hope it works but just an odd move.

George Foster
08-21-2012, 09:09 PM
Howard is a shadow of himself in the field. Looks like he is still hurting.

you are never the same after that injury

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:09 PM
Bailey K's

Kc61
08-21-2012, 09:10 PM
Given the circumstances, the difficulty winning in this stadium, just cannot believe Dusty let Bailey hit in that spot. Oh well.

George Foster
08-21-2012, 09:10 PM
Bailey K's

with what is coming up to bat...i would of liked to have seen Paul pinch hit

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:10 PM
Gameday says Lee after 105 pitches gets hit at a .381 average.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 09:11 PM
with what is coming up to bat...i would of liked to have seen Paul pinch hit

Not going to use Paul against the lefty. But Heisey or even Cairo.

Seriously, I can't believe Dusty did that. Maybe it will work, I don't know.

WebScorpion
08-21-2012, 09:12 PM
C'mon Cozie, lay off that high one...

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:12 PM
Cozart Sac Fly to center!


2-1 Reds.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 09:12 PM
Good inning for the Reds.

The Operator
08-21-2012, 09:12 PM
Yes sir! Cozart sac flies him in.

2-1!

George Foster
08-21-2012, 09:12 PM
finally a good at-bat by Cozart...

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 09:13 PM
Bailey in a sweatshirt so he might be done. Why not pinch hit?

Kc61
08-21-2012, 09:13 PM
As much as I disagree with leaving Homer in, I can't believe Manuel still has Lee out there. He's obviously lost his best stuff for tonight.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:13 PM
As much as I disagree with leaving Homer in, I can't believe Manuel still has Lee out there. He's obviously lost his best stuff for tonight.
Indeed.

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 09:15 PM
Bailey in a sweatshirt so he might be done. Why not pinch hit?

Dusty's done this a few times this season. He's trying to save the bench bats to PH when the bullpen guys are scheduled up.

The Operator
08-21-2012, 09:15 PM
3-1!

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:15 PM
Stubbs singles to left! Hanigan scores.

3-1 Reds.

WVRedsFan
08-21-2012, 09:15 PM
Uncle!

KYRedsFan
08-21-2012, 09:15 PM
Gigantic. Great inning and let's do this!

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 09:15 PM
Two hits for Stubbs tonight

George Foster
08-21-2012, 09:15 PM
thank-you for keeping Lee in....

kbrake
08-21-2012, 09:15 PM
Dusty knew we would get both runs in regardless. Genius.

RedsfaninMT
08-21-2012, 09:16 PM
As much as I disagree with leaving Homer in, I can't believe Manuel still has Lee out there. He's obviously lost his best stuff for tonight.

To me, Marshall, Broxton, Chapman.

Not Bailey for another inning. If it's typical Dusty, he'll pull Homer after he gives up a leadoff single.

Listen to me rant like the Reds are in last place.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:16 PM
god bless Juan Pierre's noodle arm :usa:

LoganBuck
08-21-2012, 09:16 PM
Lee to the showers.

reds44
08-21-2012, 09:16 PM
I swear everytime I tweet something bad about a red they do something good.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 09:17 PM
To me, Marshall, Broxton, Chapman.

Not Bailey for another inning. If it's typical Dusty, he'll pull Homer after he gives up a leadoff single.

Listen to me rant like the Reds are in last place.

I believe you will get your wish. Bailey was just making an out, which I don't agree with.

George Foster
08-21-2012, 09:17 PM
Can Chapman pitch 3 innings?

Kc61
08-21-2012, 09:17 PM
Manuel belatedly removes Lee.

Thinking ahead. 6-8 batters due for the Phils. If Reds can get through the seventh, they have Marshall and Chappy rested and ready for the lefty brigade.

Hmm. How to get through the seventh. Leave Bailey in sweatshirt and all? Lecure?

I would think Broxton might figure in some place.

Interested to see how Dusty handles this.

Gizmo
08-21-2012, 09:17 PM
I swear everytime I tweet something bad about a red they do something good.

I say be a bird!:lol:

PuffyPig
08-21-2012, 09:18 PM
Given the circumstances, the difficulty winning in this stadium, just cannot believe Dusty let Bailey hit in that spot. Oh well.

I think it has a lot to do with the fact that Bailey is pitching great, and also the fact that our bullpen is a bit short and scuffling a bit lately.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:18 PM
BJ Rosenberg in to pitch for Philadelphia.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 09:18 PM
You know Stubbs is running here.

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 09:18 PM
Apropos of nothing - does Homer Bailey sweat more than any other human alive? His jersey is two shades darker than his pants!

George Foster
08-21-2012, 09:19 PM
he needs to steal...if he get thrown out Phillips leads off next inning. If he steals it another RBI chance for Phillips

WebScorpion
08-21-2012, 09:19 PM
Nice hit Stubby! Reds lead 3-1!! :thumbup:

That trivia question is ticking me off. I think left field is the only position the Phils haven't had an AS in the 2000s.

1B - Howard
2B - Utley
SS - Rollins
3B - Rolen
C - Ruiz
RF - Abreu
CF - Victorino
P - A bunch of them.

Hmmm.... :bang:

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:20 PM
BP infield single, Utley knocked it down but that was it.

WebScorpion
08-21-2012, 09:20 PM
BP infield single, Utley knocked it down but that was it.
Utley got played by the ball. ;)

Kc61
08-21-2012, 09:20 PM
Phillips has that right field stroke going.

Remember when he pulled everything?

He owes much of his success to hitting to right.

They call that an error apparently.

Tadasimha
08-21-2012, 09:20 PM
Rookie mistake - looking up before he had the ball!

George Foster
08-21-2012, 09:21 PM
E-4

LincolnparkRed
08-21-2012, 09:21 PM
Apropos of nothing - does Homer Bailey sweat more than any other human alive? His jersey is two shades darker than his pants!

Josh Hancock would say hello here but I will do it for him

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:21 PM
They call that an error apparently.
The Man holding DatDude down.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:22 PM
Ludwick K's. Tough night for him.


3-1 Reds to the bottom of 7.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 09:22 PM
Tough night for Ludwick. Leaving lots of ducks on the pond.

George Foster
08-21-2012, 09:23 PM
0-4 for ludwick...

WebScorpion
08-21-2012, 09:23 PM
Apropos of nothing - does Homer Bailey sweat more than any other human alive? His jersey is two shades darker than his pants!Perhaps a distant relative of Senor Sweat? ;)

The Operator
08-21-2012, 09:23 PM
Ludwick is still the man though. :)

3-1 heading to bottom of the 7th!

reds44
08-21-2012, 09:23 PM
Nice hit Stubby! Reds lead 3-1!! :thumbup:

That trivia question is ticking me off. I think left field is the only position the Phils haven't had an AS in the 2000s.

1B - Howard
2B - Utley
SS - Rollins
3B - Rolen
C - Ruiz
RF - Abreu
CF - Victorino
P - A bunch of them.

Hmmm.... :bang:
Didn't Ibanez make it one year in LF?

The Operator
08-21-2012, 09:24 PM
David Bell and Polanco

RedsMan3203
08-21-2012, 09:25 PM
Why the hell was Larkin swinging at the ball in his eyes?

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:26 PM
Did Rolen get All-Star nods in 00-02? I don't know that he necessarily did.


Brown fouls out to left.

George Foster
08-21-2012, 09:26 PM
Dunn would not of had that..

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 09:27 PM
Nice hit Stubby! Reds lead 3-1!! :thumbup:

That trivia question is ticking me off. I think left field is the only position the Phils haven't had an AS in the 2000s.

1B - Howard
2B - Utley
SS - Rollins
3B - Rolen
C - Ruiz
RF - Abreu
CF - Victorino
P - A bunch of them.

Hmmm.... :bang:

Have you figured this out yet?

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:27 PM
Frandsen singles to left

RedsfaninMT
08-21-2012, 09:28 PM
Have you figured this out yet?

Werth was in there too. Wasn't he in LF?

George Foster
08-21-2012, 09:28 PM
time for another arm...good night Homer...good game.

WebScorpion
08-21-2012, 09:28 PM
Did Rolen get All-Star nods in 00-02? I don't know that he necessarily did.


Brown fouls out to left.I checked: He was an All-Star in 2002 for Philly, then got traded to St. Louis after the break. Also, Reds44 is right. Ibanez made it as a left fielder in 2009. So that's every position. Grrrr...:angry:

George Foster
08-21-2012, 09:28 PM
Werth was in there too. Wasn't he in LF?

Right Field

Virginia Beach Reds
08-21-2012, 09:29 PM
Werth was in there too. Wasn't he in LF?

Well, yes he did I believe.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:29 PM
Kratz doubles. 2nd and 3rd, 1 out...

WVRedsFan
08-21-2012, 09:29 PM
Time for Homer to head for the showers.

George Foster
08-21-2012, 09:30 PM
one batter to late Dusty

The Operator
08-21-2012, 09:30 PM
Marshall coming in. Good work Homer!

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:30 PM
Good start by Homer regardless. Even this inning wasn't that bad, a groundball single and a ball that, while hit very hard, was just fair.

Kc61
08-21-2012, 09:31 PM
I see what Dusty was doing, Bailey has been tough on that part of the batting order, but he should have hit for him and used Marshall or Brox in the seventh.

Hate to lose this game because Bailey was left in too long. Two hits by the bottom of the order.

C'mon Marshall.

The Operator
08-21-2012, 09:31 PM
one batter to late DustySeems that happens a lot doesn't it.

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:33 PM
Seems that happens a lot doesn't it.
As long as it's before the lead is gone (tonight) and not after (yesterday), I can live with it.

George Foster
08-21-2012, 09:33 PM
Seems that happens a lot doesn't it.

once #7 hit it hard against Homer it should of been over..then #8 hits a double

George Foster
08-21-2012, 09:34 PM
what on earth...

Tom Servo
08-21-2012, 09:34 PM
Wigginton walks on 4 pitches...