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Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 05:08 PM
Zack Cozart 6
Drew Stubbs 8
Jay Bruce 9
Ryan Ludwick 7
Todd Frazier 5
Miguel Cairo 3
Wilson Valdez 4
Ryan Hanigan 2
Johnny Cueto RHP

No Rolen, no Phillips.

CySeymour
08-23-2012, 06:05 PM
Why does it always seem to me that Cueto gets the Sunday Special style team behind him?

nemesis
08-23-2012, 06:17 PM
This line up befuddles me. I know Dusty loves to get playing time for his bench but under no circumstances should Cairo and Valdez be in the starting line-up at the same time.

Bruce is having a hard time against LHP right now and you have the pitcher. I'm cool with Rolen having the day off but, no way Phillips being our main Lefty Killer, should be out against one of the 2 or 3 best LH Starters in the Senior Circuit.

cumberlandreds
08-23-2012, 06:46 PM
Here's the Phils lineup:

1. Juan Pierre (L) LF

2. Kevin Frandsen (R) 3B

3. Chase Utley (L) 2B

4. Ryan Howard (L) 1B

5. Domonic Brown (L) RF

6. Laynce Nix (L) CF

7. Erik Kratz (R) C

8. Michael Martinez (S) SS

9. Cole Hamels (L) P

Gizmo
08-23-2012, 06:54 PM
I have no problem resting some guys tonight. We have a pitcher who hopefully can keep us in it even with less offense, we've already got atleast a split this series. I want my best players playing this weekend when we can almost lock the division up going into the final month. If that means they sit tonight, then they sit.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 07:11 PM
I have no problem resting some guys tonight. We have a pitcher who hopefully can keep us in it even with less offense, we've already got atleast a split this series. I want my best players playing this weekend when we can almost lock the division up going into the final month. If that means they sit tonight, then they sit.

Yes, and it's too bad this is Cueto's turn. I know it's a great pitching matchup but I would love Cueto and Latos to pitch the first two Cards games.

Phillips really needed the day off. He's played a ton lately. He struggled against the Cubs but has hit pretty well against the Phils. While Hamels is a lefty, Brandon needs the day before the Cards.

Maybe Cairo and Valdez will come through.

Phils resting Rollins.

Brutus
08-23-2012, 07:56 PM
Cairo and Valdez will both haunt their former team tonight.

powersackers
08-23-2012, 07:57 PM
I am at the Crosstown Showdown and DVRing the Reds so don't anybody spoil it for me here. LOL.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:12 PM
Seriously, when are the Reds gonna get cute ball-girls? *grin*

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:13 PM
Love this start. Zack & Drew with leadoff singles.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 08:13 PM
Cozart and Stubbs each ground singles to left. Bruce up. Raining.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 08:15 PM
Bruce Ks. Don't quite get Bruce hitting third against Hamels. Maybe Frazier three, Ludwick four would have been better.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-23-2012, 08:16 PM
Wow, if the Reds win this game, it will be a minor miracle.

klw
08-23-2012, 08:16 PM
Bruce Ks. Don't quite get Bruce hitting third against Hamels. Maybe Frazier three, Ludwick four would have been better.

Gotta split up the righties dude.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:16 PM
New Reds drinking game. Take a swig everytime Ludwick smacks his right hip. :O)

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 08:16 PM
Ludwick walks. Bases juiced.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 08:17 PM
Gotta split up the righties dude.

Only way the Reds can split up all the righties would be to swap out half the team.

Bases loaded, walk to Lud.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:18 PM
Time for the "home-town" boy to step up! :O)

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 08:19 PM
kitty litter has been poured on the mound, back to action

Kc61
08-23-2012, 08:19 PM
They are now putting some dirt down to dry out the pitching mound.

This is obviously a diversionary tactic designed by the Phils, the umpires, MLB, and all of organized sports to disadvantage the Reds in some way.

Let's hope it doesn't work.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:21 PM
How does he hit the ball that far with that kind of swing?!? I just don't get it. :O)

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:22 PM
Looks like it's stopped raining.

CrackerJack
08-23-2012, 08:23 PM
29 pitches for Hamel already? 30?

Kc61
08-23-2012, 08:24 PM
Reds luckily score on grounder to third. Third baseman brain lock threw to first, not home.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:24 PM
1-0 Reds. Easily should've gone home with that. Not sure what Frandsen was thinking there.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 08:25 PM
1-0 Reds. Easily should've gone home with that. Not sure what Frandsen was thinking there.

Welsh, I think correctly, says third bagger thought there were two out.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 08:26 PM
33 pitches for Hamels.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 08:26 PM
damnit

Kc61
08-23-2012, 08:27 PM
damnit

Easy, lucky they got anything. 1-0 Reds.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:27 PM
So close. Miggy almost beat that out. But we strike first. 1-0 Redlegs. Plus we've put a lot of pitches on Hamels. 35'ish.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 08:28 PM
Easy, lucky they got anything. 1-0 Reds.
Not mad at the Reds, mad at Martinez for making that play.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:32 PM
Pierre grounds out to Valdez. rain coming down in buckets now.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:33 PM
Frandsen grounds out to Cozart on the first pitch. 2 down.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 08:34 PM
1-2-3 first inning for Cueto.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:35 PM
Utley grounds out to Valdez. 1-2-3. Me likey.

Homer Bailey
08-23-2012, 08:37 PM
Never been busier with work and studies, yet I can't pull myself away from streaming the Reds game while I do both. What a season.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:39 PM
Valdez with a soft flyout to RF

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:40 PM
Hanny flies out to 2nd. Quickly 2 down.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:42 PM
Cueto K's. 1-2-3 for Hamels.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 08:42 PM
Chris and Kelch discussing Mes' ability to be on the post-season roster. With due respect to them, I don't agree with their statement of the rules on this.

Three outs.

Brutus
08-23-2012, 08:44 PM
My understanding in the past was always that if you were active prior to August 31 at any point, you were eligible. But ever since I've seen the actual rule itself, I just don't read it that way. It seems you have to be active or on a DL as of August 31 at midnight. I'd like to see this confusion cleared up as all of the Reds' beat guys and announcers seem to be saying Mesoraco would be eligible. I just don't think that's the case.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:46 PM
K

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:47 PM
Brown with a rope...right at Stubbs. 2 down.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:48 PM
Fire up your daynce mix! Popeye at the dish.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 08:51 PM
Nix syngle

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:52 PM
Phillips would've had it.

Homer Bailey
08-23-2012, 08:52 PM
Will that syngle be on the daynce myx album?

I'll see myself out.

Brutus
08-23-2012, 08:53 PM
Nix syngle

Cueto didn't stand a chaynce

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:53 PM
Kratz is a big boy.

RedsfaninMT
08-23-2012, 08:54 PM
Nix syngle

That was a heckuva at bat...unfortunately.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 08:54 PM
an 0-2 single. c'mon Johnny.

RedsMan3203
08-23-2012, 08:54 PM
Paul Janish would have gotten that.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 08:55 PM
Paul Janish would have gotten that.

LOL. Nice.

Got that breaking ball up. First one I've seen in a while he's missed his spot on up.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 08:55 PM
Kratz is a big boy.

Lot of power. Seems like a AAAA player, but he's hit a couple of long homers.

Johnny, get this eighth hitter SS guy, c'mon.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 08:59 PM
Geez, Michael Martinez looks like Joe Mauer here.

Brutus
08-23-2012, 08:59 PM
This is a little disappointing that Cueto can't miss Nix, Kratz and Martinez' bats.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:00 PM
Martinez pops out to Frazier. 1-0 reds after 2 full.

Some solid ab's by the Phillies that inning.

Homer Bailey
08-23-2012, 09:03 PM
The Reds will either be 10-1-1 or 9-1-2 in their last 12 series after tonight.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:03 PM
Cozart grounds out to 3rd. 1 down.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:05 PM
Stubbs tagged out by Howard. That hesitation out of the box was costly. Drew thought it was going to be foul at first.

Brutus
08-23-2012, 09:05 PM
Hamels' pitch count is suddenly looking not-so-high.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:05 PM
Bruce with the warning track power. But 1-2-3 go the Reds. 11 pitch & 8 pitch 2nd and 3rd innings for Hamels. Drat.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:08 PM
I think we get to Hamels tonight. I like the swings that Cozart, Stubbs & Frazier have had on him. A couple of those guys will go deep on him.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:08 PM
Hamels grounds out to 2nd. 1 down.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:10 PM
Everything up for Cueto.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:11 PM
Pierre walks. Cueto having some problems.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 09:11 PM
Walks Pierre on 3-2 pitch. Not a good batter for Cueto. No reason to walk him, he can't go long anyway. Might as well let him hit it.

Cueto seems off tonight and has over 50 pitches already.

RedsMan3203
08-23-2012, 09:11 PM
Everything up for Cueto.

That wasn't up... That's for sure.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:12 PM
That wasn't up... That's for sure.

True. But those last 2 pitches he was making adjustments. Hanny was trying to get him to change something mechanical.

RedsMan3203
08-23-2012, 09:14 PM
Oh Johnny..... HBP... Utley up....

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:14 PM
Plunked Frandsen. *sigh* Cueto just doesn't look right.

RedsMan3203
08-23-2012, 09:15 PM
Wow!

Kc61
08-23-2012, 09:15 PM
Great throw by Stubbs.

gilpdawg
08-23-2012, 09:15 PM
Did that just happen?

Homer Bailey
08-23-2012, 09:15 PM
Stubbs!!

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:15 PM
Single to center. Bullet by Stubbs. NAILED!!!

RedsMan3203
08-23-2012, 09:16 PM
Hell of a throw from Stubbs to nail Pierre at the plate.... Wasn't even close... Hanigan blocked the plate like a pro.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 09:16 PM
Hanigan completely blocked off the plate. Pierre couldn't get near it.

Now Howard, let's not get too giddy.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 09:19 PM
Walk to Howard, bags full. Dominic Brown.

Cueto 64 pitches.

RedsMan3203
08-23-2012, 09:21 PM
Cueto will be lucky to get through 5 tonight.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:22 PM
KK

Kc61
08-23-2012, 09:23 PM
Johnny gets out of it.

Was lucky to get the Stubbs throw cutting off a run.

But it wasn't luck how the inning ended. Cueto pitched pretty brilliantly to end that inning.

Went full to Howard and didn't give in to him. Walked him rather than tempt the big home run hitter.

Then got Dominic Brown, who is not Ryan Howard, to go fishing for a K.

Excellent job.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 09:25 PM
Hole Camels officially in a rhythm.

RedsMan3203
08-23-2012, 09:29 PM
Miggy with a single....

Kc61
08-23-2012, 09:29 PM
Each pitcher with 68 pitches, but Hamels is an inning ahead of Cueto.

Homer Bailey
08-23-2012, 09:31 PM
Wilson Valdez has a .453 OPS. You kind of have to laugh at that.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 09:32 PM
In light of new evidence, I declare this game officially played under protest. Cole Hamels is legal, binding property of the Padres.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/cole-hamels-once-signed-lifetime-contract-san-diego-160618445.html

Homer Bailey
08-23-2012, 09:34 PM
There are 5 players in baseball with a minimum of 100 PA's and an OPS below .460. The Reds are starting two of them on the same side of the infield tonight.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:37 PM
KKK

Kc61
08-23-2012, 09:38 PM
There are 5 players in baseball with a minimum of 100 PA's and an OPS below .460. The Reds are starting two of them on the same side of the infield tonight.

You likely mean position players.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:39 PM
Ground out to Cairo. 1-2-3 for Cueto. Much better.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 09:39 PM
Cueto at 81 pitches, Hamels 72 through four innings.

Homer Bailey
08-23-2012, 09:40 PM
You likely mean position players.

I do.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 09:42 PM
I do.
Don't leave me hanging, who are the other 3?

Kc61
08-23-2012, 09:42 PM
Don't leave me hanging, who are the other 3?

three guys on the Reds bench, LOL.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:42 PM
Hanny takes the 5 pitch walk.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 09:43 PM
Walk to Hanny, popped up bunt by Cueto.

Cozart coming up man on first, one out, one zip Reds, fifth inning.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:43 PM
Ugh. Bad bunt by Cueto. 1 down.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:45 PM
Zack k's swinging.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 09:45 PM
well that was disappointing

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 09:49 PM
Votto gets to that.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-23-2012, 09:49 PM
Votto gets to that.

Frazier gets to that as well. Cairo is a statue.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:52 PM
Where in the world was Cozart?

That was tailor made to get the runner at 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:53 PM
Now a balk on Cueto. Hamels at 3rd.

RedsMan3203
08-23-2012, 09:54 PM
Man, this game is DRAGGIN.....

Homer Bailey
08-23-2012, 09:55 PM
Don't leave me hanging, who are the other 3?

Chris Coghlan (what happened to him??)
Brent Morel
Hideki Matsui

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:55 PM
KKKK

Big k there.

Vottomatic
08-23-2012, 09:57 PM
kkkk

big k there.


big k

i agree. :d

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:58 PM
A rope right at Bruce. 3 out. *whew*

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 09:58 PM
LOL. Nice catch Vottomatic. :O)

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 09:59 PM
Chris Coghlan (what happened to him??)
Brent Morel
Hideki Matsui
The Brent Morel Hot Dog Play of the Game.

Vottomatic
08-23-2012, 10:00 PM
#:>)

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 10:01 PM
nice solid hit for Jay.

Vottomatic
08-23-2012, 10:02 PM
Bruce singles to center

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:02 PM
Now lets DO something with this one!

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 10:03 PM
Finally the Phillies infield gives us a break.

RedsfaninMT
08-23-2012, 10:03 PM
Now lets DO something with this one!

Something positive would be my vote. ;)

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:04 PM
That shot just about undressed the shortstop.

elfmanvt07
08-23-2012, 10:04 PM
Come on, Dorn! Don't give me any of that Olé BS.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 10:04 PM
yeah Frazier! 2 run triple!

3-0 Reds.

NJReds
08-23-2012, 10:05 PM
Ludwick roped that ball, and Martinez didn't want anything to do with it.

paintmered
08-23-2012, 10:05 PM
If you're going to put Laynce Nix in center field, you're going to have a bad time.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:05 PM
YES!!! Triple for Frazier! Nix misreads that one.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 10:06 PM
The scorers give Frazier a double with an error on Nix.


Gotta get Frazier in here with no outs.

elfmanvt07
08-23-2012, 10:06 PM
If you're going to put Laynce Nix in center field, you're going to have a bad time.

You're welcome. (http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qlvhw/)

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:06 PM
The scorers give Frazier a double with an error on Nix.


Gotta get Frazier in here with no outs.

That seems fair. He played that pretty badly.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 10:06 PM
aaaand Cairo grounds out to Hamels for the first out.

Vottomatic
08-23-2012, 10:06 PM
No freakin' outs. Time to lay on the mustard. :D

alloverjr
08-23-2012, 10:07 PM
bunt

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 10:07 PM
holy crap, that was awful. Valdez pops up to 2nd. 2 out.

Vottomatic
08-23-2012, 10:08 PM
Cairo, Valdez. Yep. Good thing Frazier was up with 2 men on.

One lousy freakin' fly ball and it's 4-0. But noooooooooooooooooooooooooo

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:08 PM
Murderer's row it ain't. LOL.

Brutus
08-23-2012, 10:08 PM
Thank you, Philly, for letting the Reds get the pitcher's spot out of the way.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:08 PM
FEAR THE MANIGAN!!!! *grin* IBB

Homer Bailey
08-23-2012, 10:09 PM
Exhibit A of why you should give your worst hitters the lowest chance of coming to hit. (Hanigan should be hitting 6th in this lineup.)

Vottomatic
08-23-2012, 10:09 PM
Cueto due for his big hit of the year.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 10:09 PM
Exhibit A of why you should give your worst hitters the lowest chance of coming to hit. (Hanigan should be hitting 6th in this lineup.)
Catcher bats 8th, dude. :(

Vottomatic
08-23-2012, 10:09 PM
Yeah, I seriously question Dusty on that lineup miscue. Hanigan shoulda been battin' after Frazier.

RedsMan3203
08-23-2012, 10:10 PM
I'll take it.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 10:10 PM
Cueto grounds outs to Hamels. Terrible job by Cairo and Valdez.

3-0 Reds to the bottom of 6.

alloverjr
08-23-2012, 10:11 PM
3 off Hamels not bad. Valdez should have bunted though. Lefty with a right handed batter. And he can't hit.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:11 PM
Yeah, I seriously question Dusty on that lineup miscue. Hanigan shoulda been battin' after Frazier.

At this point, I think it's a comfort issue with Hanigan rather than Dusty.

Yeah, it's a reach...but nothing else really makes any sense.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:14 PM
Foul. *whew*

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:15 PM
Arredondo warming.

George Foster
08-23-2012, 10:16 PM
just joining the thread. Why not squeeze bunt valdez with Frazier on 3rd? he can't hit. Just get the bunt down and the run scores. That run was big with this being Cueto's last inning.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:18 PM
just joining the thread. Why not squeeze bunt valdez with Frazier on 3rd? he can't hit. Just get the bunt down and the run scores. That run was big with this being Cueto's last inning.

One of the few times a bunt would be a good idea...and Dusty decides against it. It was odd I agree.

George Foster
08-23-2012, 10:18 PM
this guy burning up Cueto's pitch count

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 10:19 PM
Take Cueto out.

George Foster
08-23-2012, 10:19 PM
this game is far from over...it will take more than 3 runs.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 10:20 PM
Arredondo in.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:20 PM
double by Brown. 2nd & 3rd, no outs. Time for the hook. Arredondo in.

mbgrayson
08-23-2012, 10:20 PM
Does Heisey catch that one? Maybe...

George Foster
08-23-2012, 10:21 PM
5 innings....really needs to work on his pitch counts. His only weakness. Hopefully this will come in time.

RedsMan3203
08-23-2012, 10:21 PM
Does Heisey catch that one? Maybe...

Nope. But Adam Dunn would have tracked it down.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 10:22 PM
Now is an opportunity for some of these bullpen guys to prove their worth.

I don't love this bullpen except for Chapman and, to a lesser extent, Marshall.

Jose has good numbers but too many walks and lately homers.

Let's see him come through here and hold the Phils to one run.

Then let's see the other relievers help Johnny out.

George Foster
08-23-2012, 10:22 PM
Nope. But Adam Dunn would have tracked it down.

:laugh::lol::laugh::lol::eek::p

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:22 PM
5 innings....really needs to work on his pitch counts. His only weakness. Hopefully this will come in time.

It really hasn't been much of an issue this season IMO. This was a rare outing for Cueto. He lost his location for the 2nd & 3rd innings and that's what cost him.

dman
08-23-2012, 10:23 PM
It really hasn't been much of an issue this season IMO. This was a rare outing for Cueto. He lost his location for the 2nd & 3rd innings and that's what cost him.

That rain and the resulting dampness could've been factoring heavily as well.

kaldaniels
08-23-2012, 10:23 PM
Would it ever make sense, if this was say a playoff game, to bring Chapman in here? I assume the answer is yes.

George Foster
08-23-2012, 10:23 PM
It really hasn't been much of an issue this season IMO. This was a rare outing for Cueto. He lost his location for the 2nd & 3rd innings and that's what cost him.

you know, your right...I'm thinking of the head case we sent to the Padres...he has pitch count issues.

Vottomatic
08-23-2012, 10:24 PM
Maybe the Reds are trying to get to Hamels lineup position with runners in scoring position, so the Phillies pinch hit for him?

I doubt it.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 10:24 PM
Would it ever make sense, if this was say a playoff game, to bring Chapman in here? I assume the answer is yes.

Yes, but Chappy has pitched in five of six so I wouldn't do it tonight.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:25 PM
you know, your right...I'm thinking of the head case we sent to the Padres...he has pitch count issues.

It certainly used to be a major problem for Cueto. But not this season (and most of last season).

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:25 PM
Sac fly. 3-1 Reds.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 10:25 PM
damn sac flies

3-2 game

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:26 PM
Crud. 3-2. Back to back sac flies.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 10:26 PM
Those are the sac flies the Reds couldn't get last inning with Frazier on third.

NJReds
08-23-2012, 10:26 PM
Phillies doing what the Reds couldn't.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:27 PM
2.47 for Cueto now. Still leading the NL.

George Foster
08-23-2012, 10:28 PM
Would it ever make sense, if this was say a playoff game, to bring Chapman in here? I assume the answer is yes.

i'm of the opinion that you bring in your closer, your "shut down" pitcher at the most crucial part of the game.

With that being said, it's hard to get him warmed up in time. You don't know ahead of time Cueto was going to get in trouble. We had our middle inning guy warming up just in case. You don't wear out Chapman's arm in warming up to "maybe" come in.

alloverjr
08-23-2012, 10:28 PM
Not a bad effort by Jose. Wish he wouldn't have hung that ball to Nix with 2 strikes. Need about 8 runs this inning.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 10:29 PM
I'm figuring Jose comes out there again for the seventh. Then Marshall when the lefty power comes up. Then Broxton to try and close.

Thinking Dusty will try to avoid Chapman tonight.

edabbs44
08-23-2012, 10:30 PM
i'm of the opinion that you bring in your closer, your "shut down" pitcher at the most crucial part of the game.

With that being said, it's hard to get him warmed up in time. You don't know ahead of time Cueto was going to get in trouble. We had our middle inning guy warming up just in case. You don't wear out Chapman's arm in warming up to "maybe" come in.

It would probably be a no brainer if you could predict what the most crucial part of the game was before it happened. Not sure that the Kratz/Nix combo would qualify.

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:30 PM
Somebody's going to need to take over the PBP for me. Bath time for the kiddos.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 10:30 PM
i'm of the opinion that you bring in your closer, your "shut down" pitcher at the most crucial part of the game.

With that being said, it's hard to get him warmed up in time. You don't know ahead of time Cueto was going to get in trouble. We had our middle inning guy warming up just in case. You don't wear out Chapman's arm in warming up to "maybe" come in.

Chapman has his hands full pitching all the ninth innings. This team doesn't score huge numbers, often those ninths are close.

If the Reds don't have other guys who can handle the other leverage situations they need better relievers.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 10:31 PM
Cozart grounds out to short

_Sir_Charles_
08-23-2012, 10:31 PM
I'm figuring Jose comes out there again for the seventh. Then Marshall when the lefty power comes up. Then Broxton to try and close.

Thinking Dusty will try to avoid Chapman tonight.

I think we'll see Hoover tonight.

George Foster
08-23-2012, 10:32 PM
when was the last time Stubbs hit a homer?? Seems like months ago

alloverjr
08-23-2012, 10:33 PM
when was the last time Stubbs hit a homer?? Seems like months ago

Is Cordero pitching :)

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 10:33 PM
Stubbs flies out to center

George Foster
08-23-2012, 10:34 PM
Is Cordero pitching :)

that's what I was thinking...the Houston series.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 10:34 PM
I think we'll see Hoover tonight.

Ordinarily would agree, except the Phils have about 58 lefties in the lineup tonight. So I expect mostly Arredondo and Marshall.

If it gets to the ninth, Brox or Chappy.

Maybe Hoover if they need someone to strike out a righty hitter or if extras.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 10:35 PM
Bruce K's

3-2 Redlegs to the bottom of 7

George Foster
08-23-2012, 10:35 PM
that was 2 easy...

alloverjr
08-23-2012, 10:36 PM
that's what I was thinking...the Houston series.

Nah, I think he hit one on the homestand to RF. At least it was more recent than Houston.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 10:36 PM
This game could come down to the ninth inning without Chapman. Need an insurance run or two.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 10:38 PM
One out, Jose still on the bump.

George Foster
08-23-2012, 10:39 PM
If we win tonight, the cards would have swept the astros and only picked up 1/2 game on their off day monday. That's a hard pill to swallow..:D

Kc61
08-23-2012, 10:39 PM
Pierre now up. Marshall warming. If it gets to Utley we'll see Sean.

Jose's fastball has some snap tonight. Sometimes he's all splitters. Tonight he's using the fastball. 1-2 on Juan P.

August is national sandwich month.

Valdez with a Phillips like play, two out.

mbgrayson
08-23-2012, 10:40 PM
Nah, I think he hit one on the homestand to RF. At least it was more recent than Houston.

Stubbs last HR was August 5th against the Pirates. That is his only HR this month so far....

alloverjr
08-23-2012, 10:40 PM
Chris started to say Juan Valdez. Wasn't he the coffee guy?

George Foster
08-23-2012, 10:42 PM
Jose's hardest out is the last one..he walks them alot..

Kc61
08-23-2012, 10:45 PM
Kevin Frandsen is up. Has had a good series.

Lots of talk on telecast about cheesteaks and national sandwich month.

Kevin fouling various pitches off.

Full count. Good at bat by Kevin.

Walk. High pitch not close.

LoganBuck
08-23-2012, 10:45 PM
Dark Helmet at it again.

George Foster
08-23-2012, 10:46 PM
wow..

Kc61
08-23-2012, 10:46 PM
We need a good Marshall tonight to get Reds through this next part of the order.

Brutus
08-23-2012, 10:46 PM
That was not a good outcome. It would have been nice to finish him off to end the inning and let Marshall come in next inning to face the three lefties in a row. Now by having to bring him in this inning, if it gets to Marshall's spot in the order this inning, the Reds have to decide whether to bat for him.

Tadasimha
08-23-2012, 10:47 PM
Playoff intensity this whole series - love it!

alloverjr
08-23-2012, 10:49 PM
Another crowd shot please...

Kc61
08-23-2012, 10:49 PM
That was not a good outcome. It would have been nice to finish him off to end the inning and let Marshall come in next inning to face the three lefties in a row. Now by having to bring him in this inning, if it gets to Marshall's spot in the order this inning, the Reds have to decide whether to bat for him.

Ludwick leads off so we can only hope the Marshall spot hits. Would mean an active inning.

George Foster
08-23-2012, 10:49 PM
all Utley has to do is hit it to the left side and it's a hit...

alloverjr
08-23-2012, 10:52 PM
nice!

RedsMan3203
08-23-2012, 10:52 PM
Sit down....

Kc61
08-23-2012, 10:52 PM
K looking. Absolute beauty by Marshall.

Curve ball of the decade. Wow.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 10:52 PM
Utley K's looking. Nice job Sean.

yab1112
08-23-2012, 10:52 PM
HUGE

George Foster
08-23-2012, 10:52 PM
DA HOOK...

OesterPoster
08-23-2012, 10:52 PM
That is one wicked uncle charlie.

Tadasimha
08-23-2012, 10:53 PM
Stone cold strikeout - nicely done, Marshall!

Brutus
08-23-2012, 10:53 PM
That was wick-ed.

George Foster
08-23-2012, 10:53 PM
those were called balls last night..especially to the second batter marshall faced.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 10:55 PM
Waiting for the board's reaction when Broxton tries to close this game. Which is what I expect.

Tough decision for Dusty if this game stays so close.

Chappy with a lot of work lately and Cards coming up.

But Brox doesn't really miss bats and Phils can hit.

Tough call for Johnny B.

kbrake
08-23-2012, 10:56 PM
No way I would go to Chapman tonight.

George Foster
08-23-2012, 10:57 PM
Waiting for the board's reaction when Broxton tries to close this game. Which is what I expect.

Tough decision for Dusty if this game stays so close.

Chappy with a lot of work lately and Cards coming up.

But Brox doesn't really miss bats and Phils can hit.

Tough call for Johnny B.

With the Reds winning so much, Chapman can't close every night. Good problem to have.

I remember years past when we would not see CoCo for a week.

OesterPoster
08-23-2012, 10:57 PM
No chappy please. I'd use Hoover, but it will be Brox.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 10:57 PM
No way I would go to Chapman tonight.

I agree. Absolutely no way. Should be completely unavailable. No exceptions.

But if it's real close . . . .

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 10:57 PM
Ludwick robbed by Rollins of a base hit.

Frazier flies out to center.

Tadasimha
08-23-2012, 10:58 PM
Ludwick just not fast enough to make that close.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 11:01 PM
Inability to get that fourth run in looms large in this game. Too bad.

Need to make up for it with a dinger.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 11:01 PM
Cairo walks

Tadasimha
08-23-2012, 11:02 PM
A little patience from Ludwick and Frazier and the bases might be loaded - this guy's control isn't the best!

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 11:03 PM
A little patience from Ludwick and Frazier and the bases might be loaded - this guy's control isn't the best!
Ludwick went to 3-2 and had a base hit right up the middle if Rollins doesn't make that play. Frazier, yeah, he swung at the first pitch.

Tadasimha
08-23-2012, 11:04 PM
Ludwick went to 3-2 and had a base hit right up the middle if Rollins doesn't make that play. Frazier, yeah, he swung at the first pitch.

Ludwick swung at the first two pitches, one of which was up and in.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 11:04 PM
Valdez grounds out to pitcher.


3-2 Redlegs to the bottom of 8

George Foster
08-23-2012, 11:05 PM
That's what he should of done in the 6th and Frazier scores

Kc61
08-23-2012, 11:05 PM
I thought Valdez beat that one out. Oh well, Hanigan leads off next inning which isn't bad in a close game.

Brutus
08-23-2012, 11:06 PM
I thought Valdez beat that one out. Oh well, Hanigan leads off next inning which isn't bad in a close game.

People will get their Hanigan-to-leadoff wish :)

Kc61
08-23-2012, 11:07 PM
Last three games at Philly have provided their share of tension. Game two was unbearable. Yesterday, a bit less so for me.

Tonight, we'll see.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 11:07 PM
Marshall pitching to Howard. Three lefties due but could be changes by Manuel.

Howard just misses a double down the line, foul.

Tadasimha
08-23-2012, 11:08 PM
People will get their Hanigan-to-leadoff wish :)

Just a fantasy moment but enjoyable anyway.

George Foster
08-23-2012, 11:08 PM
game of inches....:eek:

alloverjr
08-23-2012, 11:09 PM
Bull. That was a strike for Hamels earlier.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 11:09 PM
I feel like that 0-2 pitch by Marshall was called a strike for the Phils earlier.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 11:09 PM
Doesn't matter though, Marshall K's Howard.

Tadasimha
08-23-2012, 11:09 PM
Nasty curve!

George Foster
08-23-2012, 11:09 PM
A

B

C..ya

Kc61
08-23-2012, 11:09 PM
Howard fans. Marshall and Chapman against lefties are just unreal.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 11:10 PM
Brown singles past Valdez.

gilpdawg
08-23-2012, 11:11 PM
Masset would come in handy on those nights where you don't wanna use Chapman. Then Marshall could close instead of Broxton.

Kc61
08-23-2012, 11:11 PM
Now Dusty will switch off to a righty to face Mayberry the pinch hitter. Lecure.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 11:11 PM
Marshall out, LeCure in.

Brutus
08-23-2012, 11:11 PM
And here I thought the Phillies would let Nix bat against Marshall lol

RedsMan3203
08-23-2012, 11:11 PM
LeCure on his way in..........

alloverjr
08-23-2012, 11:12 PM
Is Simon still on the 25 man?

George Foster
08-23-2012, 11:12 PM
Why is LaCure warmed up and looking out toward the field??

I know now.....:eek::eek:

I prefer the big boy throwing gas...

Tadasimha
08-23-2012, 11:13 PM
Is Simon still on the 25 man?

It's like he's the 6th starter in a five man rotation!

Kc61
08-23-2012, 11:13 PM
Use of Lecure here indicates no Chapman.

Broxton would normally come in but is being saved for the ninth.

Sam is coming off injury, has been a little shaky.

Not sure Lecure and Brox is going to do it, but we can hope.

George Foster
08-23-2012, 11:14 PM
Is Simon still on the 25 man?

he is not used enough....

kbrake
08-23-2012, 11:15 PM
Use of Lecure here indicates no Chapman.

Broxton would normally come in but is being saved for the ninth.

Sam is coming off injury, has been a little shaky.

Not sure Lecure and Brox is going to do it, but we can hope.

I'm thinking the same thing but I'd rather let this game go than use Chapman. Just not worth it to me. These guys need to be able to get 5 outs between the two of them.

Tom Servo
08-23-2012, 11:15 PM
Mayberry single up the middle. 1st and 2nd, 1 out.