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Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 12:09 PM
Reds lineup:

Zack Cozart SS
Drew Stubbs CF
Brandon Phillips 2B
Ryan Ludwick LF
Jay Bruce RF
Todd Frazier 1B
Scott Rolen 3B
Ryan Hanigan C
Johnny Cueto P

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 12:10 PM
Phillies lineup:

Jimmy Rollins SS
Juan Pierre LF
Chase Utley 2B
Ryan Howard 1B
John Mayberry CF
Domonic Brown RF
Kevin Frandsen 3B
Steve Lerud C
Tyler Cloyd P

cumberlandreds
09-03-2012, 12:16 PM
Oh boy! More Stubbs. Can't wait. :(

RedsMan3203
09-03-2012, 12:31 PM
I bet you Cueto is droolin' with that lineup.... He is used to seeing Cario and Valdez's names show up on his lineup card....

klw
09-03-2012, 12:34 PM
Cueto in Day Games this year is 11-0 with a 1.89 ERA in 13 starts and 89 ip.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/28955/johnny-cueto



Cloud made his first MLB start the other day after a very impression season in the minors.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120829&content_id=37535712&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

The right-hander is 12-1 with a 2.35 ERA in 22 starts this season with Lehigh Valley, and 15-1 overall in the Minor Leagues this season. He has allowed 105 hits, 38 walks and struck out 93 in 142 innings. Cloyd does not have great stuff -- his fastball is in the 85- to 89-mph range -- but he has been good enough to be named the International League's Most Valuable Pitcher.

http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=t1410&t=p_pbp&pid=543031
His only loss did come in a day game FWIW.

The loss came at the hands of the Louisville Bats, led by a grand slam by Neftali Soto.
http://www.milb.com/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2012_05_20_louaaa_lhvaaa_1

WrongVerb
09-03-2012, 01:01 PM
With the AAA pitcher in his second start, I'd have loved seeing Gregarius get the start today. Would have been a good intro to the majors.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 01:55 PM
Totally forgot about the early Labor Day start, I was wondering why lineups were already posted.

alloverjr
09-03-2012, 02:01 PM
Totally forgot about the early Labor Day start, I was wondering why lineups were already posted.

You change avatars more often than I change underwear.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 02:10 PM
You change avatars more often than I change underwear.
I wish I could find the perfect one that defines my posts, but I'm just a ramblin man.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:12 PM
Rollins strikes out swinging.

alloverjr
09-03-2012, 02:13 PM
I wish I could find the perfect one that defines my posts, but I'm just a ramblin man.

How 'bout Drew Stubbs? :p

RedsMan3203
09-03-2012, 02:13 PM
Cueto got the change up rolling....

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:13 PM
Pierre singles to right

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:16 PM
Utley grounds into a 4-6 FC. 2 outs.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 02:17 PM
How 'bout Drew Stubbs? :p
http://www.sportsautosttm.com/drewstubbs.JPG

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:18 PM
Howard strikes out swinging. 0-0 mid 1st.

alloverjr
09-03-2012, 02:19 PM
http://www.sportsautosttm.com/drewstubbs.JPG

THAT is perfect! I may steal that.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:21 PM
Cozart fouls out to 1st.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 02:23 PM
Cozart and Stubbs doing Cozart and Stubbs things.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:23 PM
Stubbs flies out to center. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:25 PM
Phillips flies out to left. 0-0 after 1.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:28 PM
Mayberry grounds out to 3rd.

Screwball
09-03-2012, 02:28 PM
Mayberry grounds out to 3rd.

Great play by Rolen on the short hop.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:29 PM
What a play by Cozart. 2 outs.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 02:29 PM
Wow, Cozart.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:31 PM
Bloop hit to right by Frandsen

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 02:32 PM
Wow, Cozart.

Succinct and precise analysis!

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:32 PM
Ground out to short. 0-0 mid 2nd.

RollyInRaleigh
09-03-2012, 02:36 PM
Cozart is really good at short.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:37 PM
Ludwick strikes out swinging.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:38 PM
Bruce homers to right!!! 1-0 Reds!

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 02:38 PM
Goodbye!

RedsMan3203
09-03-2012, 02:38 PM
Boom! :jump: Bruce!

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:38 PM
30th homer of the year for Bruce.

Screwball
09-03-2012, 02:39 PM
30th homer of the year for Bruce.

Hung a change-up and Bruce clobbered it.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:40 PM
Frazier strikes out looking.

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 02:40 PM
Ball below the knees for strike 3

RollyInRaleigh
09-03-2012, 02:40 PM
Looks like Bruce might be on one of those streaks!

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:41 PM
Rolen flies out to center. 1-0 Reds after 2.

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 02:43 PM
Already starting to get bats on the ball against this kid - second time through the order could be entertaining for Reds fans!

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:44 PM
Astros up 1-0 on the Pirates in the 1st.

Cloyd grounds out to 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:45 PM
Rollins flies out to left. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:46 PM
Fantastic play by Frazier! 1-0 Reds mid 3rd.

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 02:46 PM
Fantastic play by Frazier! 1-0 Reds mid 3rd.

:beerme:

757690
09-03-2012, 02:48 PM
FSO keeps showing the ushers at GABP. I'm guessing the job includes all you can eat skyline ;)

elfmanvt07
09-03-2012, 02:48 PM
Fantastic play by Frazier! 1-0 Reds mid 3rd.

That ball is EASILY a base hit against the Phils' D.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:50 PM
Hanigan soft liner to the pitcher.

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 02:51 PM
Weird flight of the ball there - looked like it had more on it and then suddenly dropped into Cloyd's glove. Looked more like a curveball pitch than a hit!

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:52 PM
Light rain at the park

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:52 PM
Cueto strikes out swinging.

BCubb2003
09-03-2012, 02:54 PM
That ball is EASILY a base hit against the Phils' D.

Most pitchers wouldn't be ready to take the throw either. Cueto is becoming a smart ballplayer.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:55 PM
Cozart strikes out swinging. 1-0 Reds after 3.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 02:58 PM
Utley flies out to left.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:04 PM
Long AB by Howard. Now 12 pitches.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:04 PM
Howard grounds out to 1st. 13 pitch AB. 2outs.

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 03:05 PM
Whoo! Howard made Cueto work for that one!

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:07 PM
Mayberry strikes out swinging. 3 Ks for Cueto. 1-0 Reds mid 4th.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:10 PM
Stubbs pops out to short on the first pitch.

Raining a little harder now.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:11 PM
Phillips grounds out to 3rd.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 03:11 PM
I don't believe that Frandsen plays this as well against anybody else other than the Reds.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:13 PM
Good hustle. Ludwick doubles to left.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 03:13 PM
Ludwick's first extra base hit in 2 weeks!

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 03:13 PM
Love the hustle!

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:15 PM
Bruce strikes out swinging. 1-0 Reds after 4.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 03:18 PM
Johnny's mom's umbrella matches her shirt.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:19 PM
Brown flies out to center.

Red in Chicago
09-03-2012, 03:19 PM
Johnny's mom's umbrella matches her shirt.

If she was in front of me with that umbrella, we would be exchanging some not so kind words. Just sayin.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:20 PM
Frandsen grounds out to short.

mth123
09-03-2012, 03:21 PM
One more out and open the skies.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:21 PM
Astros now up 2-0 on the Pirates. I would not be surprised if the Brewers end up passing the Pirates in the standings.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:22 PM
Lerud singles to center.

alloverjr
09-03-2012, 03:23 PM
One more out and open the skies.

Don't think it's gonna last. I'm 5 miles SW from the stadium and we've had sun and blue skies for the last 15 minutes.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:23 PM
Cloyd singles to center. His first ML hit. 1st and 2nd.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 03:23 PM
C'mon Johnny, rookie catcher and pitcher with base hits?

mth123
09-03-2012, 03:23 PM
Don't think it's gonna last. I'm 5 miles SW from the stadium and we've had sun and blue skies for the last 15 minutes.

I'm 80 miles west and its pouring.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:24 PM
It does look like there is a larger area of rain building up to the west would be good to make this official.

alloverjr
09-03-2012, 03:24 PM
I'm 80 miles west and its pouring.

Keep it!

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 03:24 PM
Bad.

alloverjr
09-03-2012, 03:24 PM
It does look like there is a larger area of rain building up to the west would be good to make this official.

Not now :(

Red in Chicago
09-03-2012, 03:24 PM
Well that sucked real fast

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:24 PM
Ouch. Rollins homers to right. Maybe we don't want this to be official.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:25 PM
Infield hit for Pierre as Cueto gets to the bag late.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:28 PM
Utley flies out to left. 3-1 Phillies mid 5th.

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 03:28 PM
All right - time to knock the rookie out of the game!

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 03:31 PM
Local internet not getting the mlb.tv feed very well - keeps freezing up and I lose the sounds a lot as well.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:32 PM
Frazier lines a single to left.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:35 PM
Rolen strikes out swinging. 6 Ks for Cloyd.

Red in Chicago
09-03-2012, 03:35 PM
Rolen need a rest?

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 03:35 PM
Gotta say it's pretty disappointing to see a guy making his ML debut outduel Johnny Cueto so far.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:35 PM
Cardinals up 1-0 on the Mets in the 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:36 PM
Hanigan fouls out the catcher.

Gizmo
09-03-2012, 03:37 PM
Gotta say it's pretty disappointing to see a guy making his ML debut outduel Johnny Cueto so far.

We seem to have a habit of making new guys look really really good.

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 03:37 PM
Hanigan fouls out the catcher.

Hanigan's pretty strong but I don't think he could hit the catcher into the stands! ;)

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:38 PM
Cueto strikes out swinging. 7 Ks. 3-1 Phillies after 5.

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 03:41 PM
We seem to have a habit of making new guys look really really good.

Not just the Reds do that - takes a few games for the scouting to get caught up on new pitchers. Lots of them have good first couple of outings before the hitters figure them out.

This is his second start, btw.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:42 PM
Howard strikes out swinging. 4 Ks for Cueto.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 03:43 PM
This is his second start, btw.
You are right, my bad.

I dunno, I think we can still get to him. But I'm just disappointed in Johnny's apparent lack of concentration with 2 outs in the 5th.


And there's another HR. :(

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:43 PM
Mayberry homers to the first row in left. 4-1 Phillies.

OnBaseMachine
09-03-2012, 03:43 PM
You can't just throw the ball right down the middle to the pitcher and expect to get away with it. It seems like the Reds get burned quite a bit by opposing pitchers with the bat.

Thank God the Phillies aren't going to the playoffs, because they own the Reds.

Tony Cloninger
09-03-2012, 03:44 PM
Come on Offense...Cueto is trying to win 20 games this season. This guy is a RH version of Tom Browning. Let's go! :D

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:44 PM
Brown pops out to 2nd. Nice catch. 2 outs.

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 03:45 PM
You are right, my bad.

I dunno, I think we can still get to him. But I'm just disappointed in Johnny's apparent lack of concentration with 2 outs in the 5th.


And there's another HR. :(


He doesn't look very focused after a pretty good start. Something got him out of his rhythm and zone.

So long as the lead doesn't get too big, they can come back against this kid.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:45 PM
Frandsen singles to left.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:47 PM
Lerud grounds out to 1st. 4-1 Phillies mid 6th.

Gallen5862
09-03-2012, 03:48 PM
Thanks for the pbp.

WVRedsFan
09-03-2012, 03:48 PM
Reds can come back, but they must start now. And look who's up...

alloverjr
09-03-2012, 03:49 PM
OK. Sun is gone. It's POURING now.

cbowen2112
09-03-2012, 03:49 PM
Time to score a couple of runs. Heck, let's make it four or so.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:50 PM
Cozart pops out to 2nd.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 03:51 PM
Cozart and Stubbs.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:52 PM
Stubbs grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

WVRedsFan
09-03-2012, 03:52 PM
Cozart and Stubbs.

And just like that 2 outs. Black holes.

cbowen2112
09-03-2012, 03:54 PM
Okay, how about we just get to first base...

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:54 PM
Phillips flies out to left. 4-1 Phillies after 6.

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 03:55 PM
Another 7th and 8th inning rally on the way

OnBaseMachine
09-03-2012, 03:56 PM
Over their last three games, the Reds have scored 2 runs combined vs Lucas Harrell, Bud Norris, and Tyler Cloyd.

Lucas Harrell, Bud Norris, Tyler Cloyd.

CrackerJack
09-03-2012, 03:56 PM
Formula for beating Reds in post season: Start right-handers against them, win series. (made easier by Dusty's insistence on playing Stubbs against them)

It's one thing to beat up on the D-backs, Cubs or Stros, but good teams actually score runs against their pitching.

WVRedsFan
09-03-2012, 03:58 PM
Cozart and Stubbs.


Formula for beating Reds in post season: Start right-handers against them, win series. (made easier by Dusty's insistence on playing Stubbs against them)

It's one thing to beat up on the D-backs, Cubs or Stros, but good teams actually score runs against their pitching.
True. And when your ace pitches poorly, like today, you're in trouble.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 03:58 PM
Over their last three games, the Reds have scored 2 runs combined vs Lucas Harrell, Bud Norris, and Tyler Cloyd.

Lucas Harrell, Nud Norris, Tyler Cloyd.
http://i51.tinypic.com/2qmoj84.gif

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 03:59 PM
Cloyd grounds out to 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:00 PM
Rollins strikes out swinging. 5 Ks for Cueto.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:01 PM
Astros now up 5-0 on the Pirates

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:01 PM
Pierre grounds out to 2nd. 4-1 Phillies mid 7th

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 04:02 PM
Astros now up 5-0 on the Pirates

Hopefully the Mets can do the same to the Cards! Still 1-0 Cards to start the 2rd

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:04 PM
Nix in to play left

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:05 PM
Infield hit for Ludwick

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 04:08 PM
sigh

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:08 PM
Bruce strikes out swinging. 8 Ks for Cloyd.

George Foster
09-03-2012, 04:08 PM
I'm at the game...poor internet connection... what cueto did in the 5 th was inexcusable. 2 outs..give up a hit to #8,#9 then a 3 jack by rollins. Just a lasps in concentration. Not exactly elite caliber.

WVRedsFan
09-03-2012, 04:09 PM
I'm at the game...poor internet connection... what cueto did in the 5 th was inexcusable. 2 outs..give up a hit to #8,#9 then a 3 jack by rollins. Just a lasps in concentration. Not exactly elite caliber.

Mind elsewhere?

BCubb2003
09-03-2012, 04:10 PM
I'm at the game...poor internet connection... what cueto did in the 5 th was inexcusable. 2 outs..give up a hit to #8,#9 then a 3 jack by rollins. Just a lasps in concentration. Not exactly elite caliber.

I think I jinxed him with my comment about him becoming a smart ballplayer.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 04:10 PM
double sigh

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:10 PM
Frazier strikes out looking. 9 Ks.

OnBaseMachine
09-03-2012, 04:10 PM
Tyler Cloyd had a 5.93 K/9 in AAA. He has 9 K's in 6.2 innings today.

WVRedsFan
09-03-2012, 04:11 PM
Tyler Cloyd had a 5.93 K/9 in AAA. He has 9 K's in 6.2 innings today.

That's our Reds. :)

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:11 PM
Rolen flies out to the track in left. 4-1 Phillies after 8.

BCubb2003
09-03-2012, 04:12 PM
That's our Reds. :)

They only hurt your feelings.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:13 PM
Cards now up 2-0 on the Mets in the 3rd.

Astros up 5-1 on the Pirates in the 6th.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:14 PM
Hoover in to pitch

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:15 PM
Utley flies out to center.

cbowen2112
09-03-2012, 04:16 PM
Does everyone realize that if Cueto didn't have to pitch in that one hard downpour of rain, this score would be tied and all of this moaning would not be taking place. I do not see why they couldnt wait that downpour out. To me that would have been enter then a slick ball and a slick mound with your ace. Not a recipe for success and definitely not the safest conditions.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:16 PM
Howard lines out to right.

cbowen2112
09-03-2012, 04:16 PM
Good thing is, Phillies bullpen is not good.

mth123
09-03-2012, 04:18 PM
Votto 0 for 3 with 2 K's in his rehab game.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 04:19 PM
Nice work as usual from President Hoover.

WVRedsFan
09-03-2012, 04:19 PM
Hoover gets the job done.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:20 PM
Mayberry strikes out swinging. 4-1 Phillies mid 8th.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:22 PM
Justin De Fratus in to pitch

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 04:22 PM
Hoover gets the job done.

Cleans up! :D

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:23 PM
Hanigan grounds out to short

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:23 PM
Phipps hitting for Hoover

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 04:23 PM
Justin De Fratus in to pitch

Proud of his family history in an ancient Roman frat, no doubt! ;)

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 04:25 PM
Nice job Phipps!

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:25 PM
Good Ab for Phipps. He walks.

Screwball
09-03-2012, 04:27 PM
Proud of his family history in an ancient Roman frat, no doubt! ;)

:D

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 04:29 PM
christ

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:29 PM
Cozart grounds into a 5-4-3 DP. 4-1 Phillies after 8.

WVRedsFan
09-03-2012, 04:29 PM
Black hole. :confused:

Screwball
09-03-2012, 04:29 PM
Cozart's had a rough day at the dish. Yeesh.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:30 PM
Cards now up 4-0 on the Mets in the 4th.

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 04:30 PM
Cozart's had a rough day at the dish. Yeesh.

Thought he was starting to come around but it was fleeting.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 04:32 PM
oh good god, Ondrusek.

Tadasimha
09-03-2012, 04:33 PM
Enough for today - time to get the labor part of Labor Day started. Neighbor's apple tree has dropped a bushel on my lawn and I'm going to be mowing tomorrow!

With luck, I'll miss an amazing come back! :thumbup:

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:33 PM
Brown grounds out to short.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:34 PM
Frandsen flies out to left. 2 outs.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 04:35 PM
Thom defending Ondrusek. My blood pressure is rising.

dougdirt
09-03-2012, 04:36 PM
Thom defending Ondrusek. My blood pressure is rising.

Future closer. Though that wasn't Thom.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:36 PM
LeRud strikes out looking. 4-1 Phillies mid 9th.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:37 PM
Stubbs (please pinch hit), Phillips and Ludwick due up

edabbs44
09-03-2012, 04:37 PM
Does Dusty have a crazy amount of different eyeglass frames or is it me?

WVRedsFan
09-03-2012, 04:38 PM
Does Dusty have a crazy amount of different eyeglass frames or is it me?

Yes, I think he has four. I have two, but I need a spare because I'm blind without them.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 04:38 PM
Does Dusty have a crazy amount of different eyeglass frames or is it me?
Probably got them in bulk along with the wristbands and chewing sticks.

And the lineup cards with 1. Cozart 2. Stubbs printed on them as well.

edabbs44
09-03-2012, 04:39 PM
Yes, I think he has four. I have two, but I need a spare because I'm blind without them.

Today's are pretty gaudy. Too much gold.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:39 PM
Phillippe Amount in to pitch

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:40 PM
Stubbs the gift that keeps on giving grounds out to 2nd.

WVRedsFan
09-03-2012, 04:41 PM
Let's not forget Cozart also. A combined 0-8 today.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:43 PM
Phillips singles to center.

Redsfan320
09-03-2012, 04:43 PM
Another excellent 0-4 day for Stubby. Every day more failure, every day starting and batting 2nd again.

320

WVRedsFan
09-03-2012, 04:43 PM
Nm

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:46 PM
Wow that was close. 6-4 FC.

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:48 PM
Ludwick went to 2nd on fielders indifference

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:50 PM
Bruce singles to center. 4-2 Phillies.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 04:50 PM
oh Reds, getting my hopes up here

BuckeyeRedleg
09-03-2012, 04:51 PM
I'd like to see a better angle on BP's force out. Looked safe to me.

redsfaninbsg
09-03-2012, 04:51 PM
For all the belly aching about Jay Bruce, the guy is going to end up with 30 + HR and 100 RBI or so. Not bad for a guy making $5 million.

Screwball
09-03-2012, 04:52 PM
Not sure Frazier coulda hit that one with a telephone pole.

WVRedsFan
09-03-2012, 04:54 PM
Reds lose. :(

Reds Fanatic
09-03-2012, 04:54 PM
Frazier grounds out to the pitcher. Reds lose 4-2.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 04:54 PM
well that sucked. we're bad again.

Tony Cloninger
09-03-2012, 05:24 PM
Not sure Frazier coulda hit that one with a telephone pole.

One thing he seems unable to do is lay off close pitches. He likes to hack.....but he has been doing it very well, when he does.

Losing to basically a couple of average pitchers. Awesome.

traderumor
09-03-2012, 05:41 PM
I'm at the game...poor internet connection... what cueto did in the 5 th was inexcusable. 2 outs..give up a hit to #8,#9 then a 3 jack by rollins. Just a lasps in concentration. Not exactly elite caliber.Seriously? two dribblers through the middle by the minor league callup catcher and minor league callup pitcher, and a missed pitch due to a slick mound. Do you seriously think that Cueto just mentally checked out as a very likely explanation there? Is it maybe just possible that this is a random game full of unpredictable craziness that makes us sit there for hours day after day and wonder what's going to happen? Why does it always have to be "inexcusable, mental lapse, get their heads out of their butts?" Can't it just be that sometimes things happen in this game that are unexpected, even when you do the right thing, like get an 8 and 9 hitter to hit weak grounders?

Ok, sorry for the rant, this kind of conclusion just drives me ABSOLUTELY batty.

Tom Servo
09-03-2012, 05:50 PM
I don't know. In general, I'm against the idea that it's always the pitcher's fault but I do think Johnny coasted just a bit after those 2 outs in the 5th and it bit him.

I don't remember the LeRud hit, but Cloyd's wasn't a 'dribbler' nor was it particularly weak. It was as much a base hit up the middle as Bruce's was in the 9th. I just think if Johnny had really bored down, he could have gotten Cloyd out. But he didn't. Hey, it happens.

redsmetz
09-03-2012, 08:19 PM
Seriously? two dribblers through the middle by the minor league callup catcher and minor league callup pitcher, and a missed pitch due to a slick mound. Do you seriously think that Cueto just mentally checked out as a very likely explanation there? Is it maybe just possible that this is a random game full of unpredictable craziness that makes us sit there for hours day after day and wonder what's going to happen? Why does it always have to be "inexcusable, mental lapse, get their heads out of their butts?" Can't it just be that sometimes things happen in this game that are unexpected, even when you do the right thing, like get an 8 and 9 hitter to hit weak grounders?

Ok, sorry for the rant, this kind of conclusion just drives me ABSOLUTELY batty.

Back home now, took our daughter to the airport in Dayton after the game. I said at the game that I wish Cueto would have had them work on the mound before he did. I think it might have made a difference.

What is it about young pitchers that we make them look like the 2nd coming of Cy Young?

Big Klu
09-03-2012, 09:23 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Brandon Phillips - 139
17. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Joey Votto - 133
19. Jay Bruce - 130
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101