9/4/2012 Phils at Reds

[cumberlandreds]

Stubbs leading off and Valdez 2nd. Ooh boy.............


1. Drew Stubbs (R) CF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=stubbdr01&year=Career&t=b)
2. Wilson Valdez (R) SS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=valdewi01&year=Career&t=b)
3. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=phillbr01&year=Career&t=b)
4. Ryan Ludwick (R) LF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=ludwiry01&year=Career&t=b)
5. Jay Bruce (L) RF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=bruceja01&year=Career&t=b)
6. Todd Frazier (R) 1B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=frazito01&year=Career&t=b)
7. Scott Rolen (R) 3B (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=rolensc01&year=Career&t=b)
8. Ryan Hanigan (R) C (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=hanigry01&year=Career&t=b)
9. Mat Latos (R) P (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=latosma01&year=Career&t=b)

[CySeymour]

Stubbs leading off and Valdez 2nd. Ooh boy.............


1. Drew Stubbs (R) CF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=stubbdr01&year=Career&t=b)
2. Wilson Valdez (R) SS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=valdewi01&year=Career&t=b)

http://mudpuddle.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/bang-head-here.jpg

[Wonderful Monds]

Honestly what does Valdez offer that Gregorious could not have done for even one start?

[CarolinaRedleg]

Honestly what does Valdez offer that Gregorious could not have done for even one start?

Veteranness :D

[mace]

Heisey must have expressed a severe distaste for merlots and Bob Marley.

[WVRedsFan]

Oh Boy.

[Tom Servo]

1. Drew Stubbs (R) CF (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=stubbdr01&year=Career&t=b)
2. Wilson Valdez (R) SS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=valdewi01&year=Career&t=b)
http://i.imgur.com/XNhfI.gif

[Virginia Beach Reds]

Nothing like putting 2 sure outs at the top of the order, day in and day out. Looking forward to tomorrow with Votto in the lineup to see if BP is batting leadoff and to see who is batting #2. In my opinion, no chance at an extended playoff run with Stubbs and Valdez/Cozart batting in the top two spots.

[PuffyPig]

Nothing like putting 2 sure outs at the top of the order, day in and day out. Looking forward to tomorrow with Votto in the lineup to see if BP is batting leadoff and to see who is batting #2. In my opinion, no chance at an extended playoff run with Stubbs and Valdez/Cozart batting in the top two spots.

Firstly, Baker has already said that Philips would bat leadoff when Votto was back.

Secondly, the Reds are 4th in runs scored since the all star break with those two batting 1-2 and no Votto in the line up.

Thirdly, an extended playoff run, in baseball, is as much a matter of luck than anything else. Look at the world series winners the last 15 years or so. If a lineup is good enough to get you to the playoffs, it's good enough to win you the world series.

We'd all like to see high on base guys batting 1-2. But it's not obvious who those would be on this team.

[Tom Servo]

Bow-tie Tuesday.

[Kc61]

Nothing like putting 2 sure outs at the top of the order, day in and day out. Looking forward to tomorrow with Votto in the lineup to see if BP is batting leadoff and to see who is batting #2. In my opinion, no chance at an extended playoff run with Stubbs and Valdez/Cozart batting in the top two spots.

I agree on Stubbs, his season like last has disintegrated on offense and he's a liability in the batting order, really wherever he bats.

I don't agree on Cozart being a "sure out." It's probably just Redszone hyperbole, but maybe we shouldn't be lumping these two guys together so much.

Cozart has 32 doubles this year, to lead all MLB shortstops. He also has 15 homers and a slugging percentage over .400. Now, yes, his OBP is subpar and perhaps he's not ideal leading off, but he's been productive on offense for a SS.

I think Phillips leading off and Cozart hitting second would be a reasonable one two punch. I'd prefer a lefty OBP man, but with the current group, this would be acceptable to me.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rollins flies out to center.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frandsen strikes out swinging.

[Reds Fanatic]

Utley grounds out to 2nd. 0-0 mid 1st.

[alloverjr]

I think Phillips leading off and Cozart hitting second would be a reasonable one two punch. I'd prefer a lefty OBP man, but with the current group, this would be acceptable to me.

I'd like to see, given the current roster, Phillips 1, Rolen/Frazier 2.

Good inning from Latos.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

I agree on Stubbs, his season like last has disintegrated on offense and he's a liability in the batting order, really wherever he bats.

I don't agree on Cozart being a "sure out." It's probably just Redszone hyperbole, but maybe we shouldn't be lumping these two guys together so much.

Cozart has 32 doubles this year, to lead all MLB shortstops. He also has 15 homers and a slugging percentage over .400. Now, yes, his OBP is subpar and perhaps he's not ideal leading off, but he's been productive on offense for a SS.

I think Phillips leading off and Cozart hitting second would be a reasonable one two punch. I'd prefer a lefty OBP man, but with the current group, this would be acceptable to me.

You are right. He's just a streaky player just like most rookies. I like his bat, just not up at the top. As someone else said, there aren't many other options.

[Reds Fanatic]

I think Phillips leading off and Cozart hitting second would be a reasonable one two punch. I'd prefer a lefty OBP man, but with the current group, this would be acceptable to me.

Hopefully this happens tomorrow with Votto back. There is no reason when Votto plays that Phillips should not be leading off.

[Reds Fanatic]

Leadoff walk to Stubbs.

[alloverjr]

OB machine

[Tom Servo]

Even when he walks Stubbs doesn't look too good. Those pitches were too close to take, honestly. I'll take the baserunner though.

[Reds Fanatic]

Valdez grounds into a 6-4 FC on the first pitch

[hebroncougar]

Even when he walks Stubbs doesn't look too good. Those pitches were too close to take, honestly. I'll take the baserunner though.

Tough crowd. Guy walks and the pitches are too close to take.......:confused:

[Tom Servo]

Tough crowd. Guy walks and the pitches are too close to take.......:confused:
I'd say the same if it were anybody else, they were too close to take.

[Reds Fanatic]

Valdez steals 2nd.

[OesterPoster]

Valdez grounds into a 6-4 FC on the first pitch

Awesome AB there, gave Stubbs zero pitches to steal.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frandsen robs Phillips. Bare handed play. Runner to 3rd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ludwick flies out to left. 0-0 after 1.

[Reds Fanatic]

Howard singles to right.

[Reds Fanatic]

Mayberry flies out to center.

[Reds Fanatic]

Brown flies out to left.

[RedsfaninMT]

Didn't give Latos a clear, low strike.

[RedsfaninMT]

or the high one either.

[Tom Servo]

BRUCE!

[Reds Fanatic]

Wow. What a catch by Bruce!

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce grounds out to 2nd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier flies out to center. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Utley robs Rolen. 0-0 after 2.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kratz strikes out swinging.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kendrick stikes out. 3 Ks for Latos.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rollins grounds out to 2nd. 0-0 mid 3rd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hanigan singles to left.

[Reds Fanatic]

Latos bunts into a 2-6 FC.

[Reds Fanatic]

Stubbs singles to left. 1st and 2nd.

[OesterPoster]

Stubbs with a hit off a righty. Celebration.

[Wonderful Monds]

Man I'm so glad the lineup was constructed the way it was so Wilson Valdez is up in this scenario.

[Reds Fanatic]

Valdez grounds into a 6-4 FC. 1st and 3rd. Seriously why is Valdez on the roster.

[OesterPoster]

Doesn't seem like Valdez ever gets one out of the infield.

[Tom Servo]

jeezus

[Reds Fanatic]

Ugh. Latos gets caught off 3rd. 0-0 after 3.

[Wonderful Monds]

......

[Wonderful Monds]

What was Latos doing there?

[Jamz]

Looked safe to me.

[Reds Fanatic]

That was a dangerous play with Latos going in with his pitching hand.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frandsen pops out to 1st.

[kbrake]

Looked safe to me as well.

[Wonderful Monds]

I know it's because of the playoffs phantom HBP but


There is just something about Chase Utley's face I don't like.

[Reds Fanatic]

Utley doubles to right center.

[Reds Fanatic]

Howard hit by the pitch. That kind of looked like a foul ball.

[Wonderful Monds]

Nice catch by Hanigan

[Wonderful Monds]

What's a Curly's BBQ? Never heard of this.

[Tom Servo]

squeezed

[Reds Fanatic]

Wow that pitch looked good. Walk. Bases loaded.

[Wonderful Monds]

Need a DP here Mat

[Wonderful Monds]

And here's Reds killer Dominic Brown

[Tom Servo]

What is wrong with this team against the Phillies? Jeez.

[Reds Fanatic]

2-0 count. Latos needs to calm down.

[Wonderful Monds]

C'mon Mat. Let it go.

[Reds Fanatic]

big trouble here. 3-0 count

[Tom Servo]

ugh

[Reds Fanatic]

4 pitch walk. 1-0 Phillies.

[Wonderful Monds]

Not even close that AB.

[PuffyPig]

That pitch was a strike and he swung.

But Matt needs to learn to deal with .c

[alloverjr]

Kid's a head case. Get over it and quit throwing balls in the dirt.

[Reds Fanatic]

6 straight balls

[Jamz]

Getting squeezed hard. Wow.

[Reds Fanatic]

LeCure warming up. 3 good innings by Latos and all the sudden he has lost it. The ump not helping.

[Wonderful Monds]

That was a strike?

[Tom Servo]

That wasn't caught.

[Homer Bailey]

That was a strike?

Yes

[Reds Fanatic]

Wow I need to see this again. yes it was not caught. Did they call that caught.

[Wonderful Monds]

That was a trap. If this is a DP, Phillies just got completely hosed.

[kbrake]

Didn't think that was even close to be caught.

[Tom Servo]

I had the volume down so I have no idea what exactly the Phillies did on the basepaths, but Stubbs definitely trapped that.

[Wonderful Monds]

Yes

That pitched looked way far and away to me.

[Reds Fanatic]

If they called that caught that is a horrible call. It was clearly trapped

[Homer Bailey]

That pitched looked way far and away to me.

Gameday had it easily in.

[Wonderful Monds]

Gameday had it easily in.

Hm. Guess I'm viewing the game from a weird angle.

[Wonderful Monds]

Huge lucky break.

Forgot about the potential force at 2nd though lol

[Reds Fanatic]

Well if he did trap it Howard would have been out at 2nd on a force play. I don't get where out 3 came from. Gameday is totally confused and I don't blame them. I have no idea how that would be scored.

[Reds Fanatic]

They called that a catch. Wow what a break.

Phillips grounds out to short.

[Wonderful Monds]

Well if he did trap it Howard would have been out at 2nd on a force play. I don't get where out 3 came from. Gameday is totally confused and I don't blame them. I have no idea how that would be scored.

It was ruled a catch and doubled off 2nd. Couldn't have been a force at 2B because that would have removed the force at home no?

[Reds Fanatic]

So that play goes as an 8-4 DP to end the inning.

[Captain Hook]

Well if he did trap it Howard would have been out at 2nd on a force play. I don't get where out 3 came from. Gameday is totally confused and I don't blame them. I have no idea how that would be scored.

Me either but the Reds could've easily got the third out.Touching home wouldn't of got it though.The force out was made at second.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ludwick flies out to center.

[Tom Servo]

I'm begging for some offense. First it was Harrell and Norris. Now it's Cloyd and Kendrick?


C'mon.

[OldRightHander]

Yep, force at second but at that point there was a runner heading back into second and all Brandon had to do was tag him for the other out anyway instead of throwing home. Philly got screwed on that call, but it should have been a double play either way.

[Reds Fanatic]

That play to end the inning is one of those plays that in the future would go to replay.

[PuffyPig]

Me either but the Reds could've easily got the third out.Touching home wouldn't of got it though.The force out was made at second.

Once they threw to 2nd, the force at home and third was gone. So, the Reds would have only got one out if they called it a trapped ball..

[OldRightHander]

Once they threw to 2nd, the force at home and third was gone. So, the Reds would have only got one out if they called it a trapped ball..

The runner headed to third was moving back to the second base bag. Phillips could have tagged him easily.

[Reds Fanatic]

Infield hit for Bruce.

[Captain Hook]

Jay was moving pretty good up the line on that play.Looked like a CF to me.

[PuffyPig]

The runner headed to third was moving back to the second base bag. Phillips could have tagged him easily.

But he didn't, he threw home? Why I don't know.

But if they had originally signalled a trapped ball, the runners would have moved forward, and only the out of 2nd would have been made.

[OldRightHander]

But he didn't, he threw home? Why I don't know.

But if they had originally signalled a trapped ball, the runners would have moved forward, and only the out of 2nd would have been made.

Brain cramp?

[Captain Hook]

But he didn't, he threw home? Why I don't know.

But if they had originally signalled a trapped ball, the runners would have moved forward, and only the out of 2nd would have been made.

We all agree that no one knows where the third out came from.I guess the boys in blue just assumed it.

[OldRightHander]

We all agree that no one knows where the third out came from.I guess the boys in blue just assumed it.

Truth is, if that call had been made against the Reds, we'd be going ballistic.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frandsen is becoming a pest. Frazier grounds out. 1-0 Phillies after 4.

[BCubb2003]

We all agree that no one knows where the third out came from.I guess the boys in blue just assumed it.

They assumed the catch.

[smith288]

Kendrick is hitting his spots. I hate the phillies.

[PuffyPig]

We all agree that no one knows where the third out came from.I guess the boys in blue just assumed it.

The 2nd out was the catch, the third out was throwing to 2nd (the runner had left he bag without tagging up).

[Captain Hook]

They assumed the catch.
So they called it a catch?

[alloverjr]

Kendrick is hitting his spots. I hate the phillies.

Seems like a lot of starters are hitting their spots against the Reds recently.

[BCubb2003]

So they called it a catch?

Yep.

[PuffyPig]

So they called it a catch?

yes

[Tom Servo]

Seems like a lot of starters are hitting their spots against the Reds recently.
A lot of mediocre starters at that.

[Captain Hook]

Well that was a terrible call but wouldn't you guys agree that if they'd called it a trap that a DP would've been made anyways?

[Reds Fanatic]

Kratz singles to center.

[Wonderful Monds]

Well that was a terrible call but wouldn't you guys agree that if they'd called it a trap that a DP would've been made anyways?

No, not if the play happened as it did. The force at 2nd would've removed the force at home.

[BCubb2003]

Well that was a terrible call but wouldn't you guys agree that if they'd called it a trap that a DP would've been made anyways?

The Reds would have had to get the out at first or tagging the runner going back to second, I think.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kendrick strikes out on a foul bunt attempt.

[BCubb2003]

Kratz singles to center.

Kratz and Frandsen sound like a muttered made-up oath.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rollins doubles to right on a ball that takes a big bounce over Frazier.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rollins' 2000th hit

[Wonderful Monds]

Mat has been having too many of these games lately. He can't be doing this in the playoffs.

[Captain Hook]

No, not if the play happened as it did. The force at 2nd would've removed the force at home.

None of the runners advance though.Seems like if Phillips had thought they rulled the Stubbs play a trap he could've some way got two outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frandsen grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

After a rain delay Pirates up 1-0 in the first. Cards scoreless in the 2nd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Utley grounds out to Valdez in the shift. 1-0 Phillies mid 5th.

[Wonderful Monds]

Really toeing the line tonight

[alloverjr]

Valdez fields it cleanly. Good job of Latos getting out of that mess. Let's see if the offense cares to show up.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

Well that was a terrible call but wouldn't you guys agree that if they'd called it a trap that a DP would've been made anyways?

Yes, good heads up play by Stubbs to get it in quick. The Phillies had no idea what to do because the ump made the wrong call...and as many have said, it wasn't even close!

[Reds Fanatic]

Rolen grounds out to short.

[PuffyPig]

Mat has been having too many of these games lately. He can't be doing this in the playoffs.

1 run in 5 innings isn't exactly getting hammered.

In his last 9 starts, he's given up more than 2 runs once.

[alloverjr]

Feels like it's 8-0. Fortunately, it's not.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hanigan singles to left. His 2nd hit.

[Wonderful Monds]

1 run in 5 innings isn't exactly getting hammered.

In his last 9 starts, he's given up more than 2 runs once.

He's also benefitted by several very very lucky plays and one huge blown call in his favor.

[Reds Fanatic]

Latos lucked into a succesful sacrifice bunt. As he stood there and Hanigan goes to 2nd.

[Reds Fanatic]

That looked like clear interference. Lucky for the Reds this crew is not too with it tonight.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cards now up 2-0 and still batting in the 2nd.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

But, shouldn't the runner be allowed to proceed to second on that bunt as he normally would with a ball in fair play? I don't think that is interference.

[Tom Servo]

sigh

[PuffyPig]

He's also benefitted by several very very lucky plays and one huge blown call in his favor.

He was lights out through 4.

The 4th inning likely wouldn't have occured without the blown strike out call.

Rollins double last inning was a chopped ground ball.

What are the very very lucky plays other than the blown call ? I haven't seen any?

[Reds Fanatic]

But, shouldn't the runner be allowed to proceed to second on that bunt as he normally would with a ball in fair play? I don't think that is interference.

I would think Latos would be out as he ran into the catcher and I am not sure but Hanigan if that was interference I would think could not have advanced.

Stubbs strikes out. 1-0 Phillies after 5.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Stubbs swung 45 min late on that pitch

[Reds Fanatic]

Cards now up 3-0 in the 2nd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Howard grounds out to 1st.

[Reds Fanatic]

Mayberry grounds out to 3rd. Nice stop by Rolen.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice pitch. Brown strikes out swinging. 5 Ks for Latos. 1-0 Phillies mid 6th.

[Reds Fanatic]

Valdez strikes out swinging.

[NC Reds]

Valdez batting second boggles the mind.

[Tom Servo]

stellar night for Valdez

[dsmith421]

Paul Janish: all is forgiven. Please come home. I didn't realize it at the time, but it could get worse.

[Reds Fanatic]

Valdez batting second boggles the mind.

Valdez even being in the starting lineup boggles the mind.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

Not to pile on, but should a MLB player (even part timer) be on a MLB roster at this point batting under .200? Don't the Reds have two of them? Haven't checked recently but Valdez is and isn't Cairo?

[Tom Servo]

What is BP swinging at?

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips grounds out to 1st.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

A 1-0 loss will be really hard to take.

The Reds do realize that, come October, they won't be facing the cubs, AAstros and dbacks, don't they?

[dsmith421]

Ugly, ugly offensive performance again tonight. Four straight days that they look a bit lost against a middling starter. Hopefully Votto gives them a shot in the arm, because the guy going tomorrow is not a middling starter.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ludwick singles to right.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Not to pile on, but should a MLB player (even part timer) be on a MLB roster at this point batting under .200? Don't the Reds have two of them? Haven't checked recently but Valdez is and isn't Cairo?

You really think Dusty is gonna agree to release his favorites in September?

[max venable]

This team has been painful to watch lately.

their bats have gone to sleep.

[Tom Servo]

Bruce! :jump:

[Wonderful Monds]

JAY BRUCE

[Virginia Beach Reds]

You really think Dusty is gonna agree to release his favorites in September?

Not bashing Dusty at all. Putting these outs into the lineup is a crime though, especially with the expanded rosters.

Bruce :beerme:

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce homers to the first row in right!!!! 2-1 Reds!!

[alloverjr]

They're alive!

[dsmith421]

I withdraw my objection and beg Jay Bruce's permission to flush my own head in the toilet.

[Brutus]

Jay Bruce is hitting his annual late August/early September hot streak.

[Reds Fanatic]

That was a straight line drive right out of the park.

[edabbs44]

Kid's en fuego. Would love to see it carry over into October a bit.

[max venable]

Bruce for MVP

[CrackerJack]

Seeing the guy knocking around what I assume is his girlfriend for that HR ball - classy, then again I'm not sure she's his, especially after that.

[Reds Fanatic]

That is 31 homers and 91 RBI for Bruce .

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier strikes out swinging. 2-1 Reds after 6.

[reds44]

Jay Bruce proving haters wrong one at a time.

[BCubb2003]

That is 31 homers and 91 RBI for Bruce .

Somebody must be getting on base.

[kaldaniels]

Seeing Valdez mentioned (earlier I'm late)I checked the other day and his WAR is -1.1....in the limited amount of time he has seen the field. That's impressive.

[oregonred]

Nice to say Jay carrying the offense again

[PuffyPig]

The Reds do realize that, come October, they won't be facing the cubs, AAstros and dbacks, don't they?

Against the contenders, the Reds have one of the better records in the NL.

IIRC, the Cards are last.

[oregonred]

Not bashing Dusty at all. Putting these outs into the lineup is a crime though, especially with the expanded rosters.

Bruce :beerme:

Exactly, with a 30+ man roster starting either Valdez or Cairo should be an option of dang near last resort. Slightly ahead of putting Valdez in the #2 hole.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

I withdraw my objection and beg Jay Bruce's permission to flush my own head in the toilet.

Granted if pictures will be posted :eek:

[Brutus]

Jay Bruce proving haters wrong one at a time.

I really think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone that hates Jay Bruce. Almost all the frustration with him comes from thinking he has a world of talent and they hope he lives up to the talent. I'd argue the frustration comes from immense respect for his ability.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nasty pitch. Schierholtz strikes out swinging. 6 Ks.

[Wonderful Monds]

Mat is cruising now

[Reds Fanatic]

Kratz grounds out to short.

[max venable]

Against the contenders, the Reds have one of the better records in the NL.

IIRC, the Cards are last.

Reds are 6-6 vs. Cards, 2-5 vs. Wash, 4-3 vs. SF, 1-2 vs. Dodgers...worries me a lot if we have to face any of those teams in the post season. Especially given the fact that the first two games will be on the road.

[Reds Fanatic]

Laynce Nix hitting for Kendrick

[Wonderful Monds]

Laynce Nix daynces into the box

[Tom Servo]

Reds are 6-6 vs. Cards, 2-5 vs. Wash, 4-3 vs. SF, 1-2 vs. Dodgers...worries me a lot if we have to face any of those teams in the post season. Especially given the fact that the first two games will be on the road.
We played almost entirely even with all of those teams, the record against the Nats is particularly deceptive.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nix flies out to left. 2-1 Reds mid 7th.

[Reds Fanatic]

100 pitches for Latos. Not sure if he will be back for the 8th as he is due up 3rd.

[Brutus]

Side note:

If Tampa Bay can hold on against the Yankees (they lead 5-2 in their bottom half of the 6th), the Yankees will be tied with Baltimore for the division and TB will be just a game and a half out of first.

[max venable]

100 pitches for Latos. Not sure if he will be back for the 8th as he is due up 3rd.

I'd run him back out there.

[BCubb2003]

This is the Latos who could pitch in the playoffs.

[WVRedsFan]

100 pitches for Latos. Not sure if he will be back for the 8th as he is due up 3rd.

Bring in the hammers.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

Jay Bruce proving haters wrong one at a time.

I believe Bruce is at least the top two most loved players on the current Reds roster. I also believe that Reds supporters are just waiting for him to be a player he likely won't be.

Even the player he is, is still mighty good and well above league average. I don't think anyone 'hates' Jay Bruce. Not from what I've seen from my many treks to GABP this year.

[PuffyPig]

Reds are 6-6 vs. Cards, 2-5 vs. Wash, 4-3 vs. SF, 1-2 vs. Dodgers...worries me a lot if we have to face any of those teams in the post season. Especially given the fact that the first two games will be on the road.

IIRC, they are 6-1 vs. the Braves.

[Reds Fanatic]

Josh Lindblom in to pitch

[Wonderful Monds]

Oops!

[oregonred]

I believe Bruce is at least the top two most loved players on the current Reds roster. I also believe that Reds supporters are just waiting for him to be a player he likely won't be.

Even the player he is, is still mighty good and well above league average. I don't think anyone 'hates' Jay Bruce. Not from what I've seen from my many treks to GABP this year.

I would agree with this assessment. It's that potential word, being touted as the #1 overall prospect in baseball and his magical entrance into the big leagues with a walk off homer.

The Reds LTC to Bruce is going to pay some nice dividends.

[max venable]

Oops!

juuuust a bit high...

[WVRedsFan]

I believe Bruce is at least the top two most loved players on the current Reds roster. I also believe that Reds supporters are just waiting for him to be a player he likely won't be.

Even the player he is, is still mighty good and well above league average. I don't think anyone 'hates' Jay Bruce. Not from what I've seen from my many treks to GABP this year.

It's just frustration, VBR. Lots of folks were expecting .350/40 HR/130 RBI seasons out of Jay. Jay is Jay, nothing more.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rolen strikes out swinging.

[BCubb2003]

juuuust a bit high...

What did the ump call it?

[max venable]

Rolen strikes out swinging.

this team strikes out... A LOT.

[Reds Fanatic]

Broxton and Marshall warming up

[Reds Fanatic]

Frandsen with another good play. 2 outs.

[Tom Servo]

Broxton and Marshall warming up
I'd rather have Hoover.

[Tadasimha]

Frandsen with another good play. 2 outs.

Phils seem to have found themselves a pretty good third baseman

[oregonred]

Frandsen would be in the HOF if he could play against the Reds 40 times a year.

[WVRedsFan]

You don't pinch hit here with two out and nobody on do you?

Guess you do. X Man up.

[Reds Fanatic]

Paul hitting for Latos

[max venable]

Phils seem to have found themselves a pretty good third baseman

No kidding. He did that to us when we played them in Philly, too.

[Reds Fanatic]

Paul doubles to left.

[Tom Servo]

X-Man double

[Reds Fanatic]

Really good start by Latos: 7IP, 4H, 1ER, 2BB, 6K

[oregonred]

Certainly the Reds won't keep the X-man off the playoff 25 - would they...

[redsfaninbsg]

Paul has been a very nice pickup for the Reds.

[Reds Fanatic]

Certainly the Reds won't keep the X-man off the playoff 25 - would they...

No way. He is the best pinch hitter they have.

[alloverjr]

If Stubbs reaches without Paul scoring. PH Votto for Valdez? The Bat Boy?

[Tom Servo]

If Stubbs reaches without Paul scoring. PH Votto for Valdez? The Bat Boy?
Yes.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

It's just frustration, VBR. Lots of folks were expecting .350/40 HR/130 RBI seasons out of Jay. Jay is Jay, nothing more.

Well, in essence exactly what I typed ;)

[Tom Servo]

3-0 and he strikes out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Stubbs does what he does and strikes out swinging. 2-1 Reds after 7.

[alloverjr]

3-0 and he strikes out.

On ball 4. Getting booed at home again. Feel sorry for the kid.

[max venable]

this just in: Drew Stubbs stinks

[Brutus]

3-0 and he strikes out.

Even at 3-0, it felt like the most likely outcome.

[WVRedsFan]

Stubbs' approach at the plate is horrible. Took the only pitch he could hit for a strike and then swung at a high ball 4 to strike out. Goodness!

[Virginia Beach Reds]

3-0 and he strikes out.

At a ball 6 inches off the plate inside. Frustrating, this guy! Not sure what the solution is, other something radical like benching and moving Bruce to CF, which isn't happening this year.

[Reds Fanatic]

I can't wait to see tomorrows lineup. With Votto back no way Stubbs should ever bat above 7th.

[Reds Fanatic]

Broxton in to pitch

[Virginia Beach Reds]

Broxton's entrance song, Iron Man, is mighty strong!

[Reds Fanatic]

Whew. Rollins flies out to the track in right.

[WVRedsFan]

Gulp...:eek:

[Tom Servo]

Hard not to remember this part of the Phils lineup beating the crap out of Broxton and Marshall 2 weeks ago.

[BCubb2003]

Hard not to remember this part of the Phils lineup beating the crap out of Broxton and Marshall 2 weeks ago.

Drives me crazy that the announcers make such a huge deal about how good the Reds bullpen is when we've seen them struggle.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frandsen grounds out to Broxton. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

I agree with this move to leave Broxton in .

[Reds Fanatic]

Now Ondrusek also warming up

[Tom Servo]

Ondrusek warming? God, Dusty hasn't learned anything.

[Virginia Beach Reds]

Baker with his fly down. Ugg. HD on 70 inch screen, just saw too much.

[Reds Fanatic]

Good job. Utley grounds out to 2nd. 2-1 Reds mid 8th.

[Jefferson24]

Chapman time!

[Tom Servo]

Why exactly is it that Broxton hardly strikes guys out anymore even if he still gets it up there at a high velocity? What did he used to finish batters off with?

[Tadasimha]

Broxton looked good, smart to leave him in for Utley. :thumbup:

[WVRedsFan]

Baker with his fly down. Ugg. HD on 70 inch screen, just saw too much.

Wondered if anyone else saw that. The perils of live TV

[Virginia Beach Reds]

Why exactly is it that Broxton hardly strikes guys out anymore even if he still gets it up there at a high velocity? What did he used to finish batters off with?

Doug Dirt is standing by :lol:

[BCubb2003]

Wondered if anyone else saw that. The perils of live TV

Under what circumstances in a key moment of the game would that happen?

[OesterPoster]

Whoa. Thought it was Heisenberg pitching here at first.

[Reds Fanatic]

B.J. Rosenberg in to pitch

[Tadasimha]

Whoa. Thought it was Heisenberg pitching here at first.

Based upon what principle? ;-)