Cardinals @ Reds: 6/10/08

Bruce is back.

single for Bruce... C'mon

Janish with the sac... Sure would be nice to have a hitter in the 2 hole... Here comes Griffey to make it 5-4...

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Originally Posted by reds44

The Reds problem has been finding the arms, I'm not really sure they've ever had arms to develop. Have there been many Reds arms where you say, "wow, he has a golden arm, hopefully he can put it all together", and it never happens? If the first names that come to your head are Todd Coffey and Ryan Wagner then that tells you all you need to know.

I'm not really arguing against you here. I don't think a change in his delivery (which I don't even see), is why he has lost 7 MPH on his heater.

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I agree. I can't blame the Reds because Bailey isn't a fully formed pitcher at age 22. His command issues, his pitch selection, all that will come with experience.

The problem I see is that his velocity seems way off. I'm willing to let Bailey mature if the stuff is there, but where's the stuff? Injury? Mechanics? That's the concern.

Griffey pops to center... 2 down

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Originally Posted by reds44

The Reds problem has been finding the arms, I'm not really sure they've ever had arms to develop. Have there been many Reds arms where you say, "wow, he has a golden arm, hopefully he can put it all together", and it never happens? If the first names that come to your head are Todd Coffey and Ryan Wagner then that tells you all you need to know.

I'm not really arguing against you here. I don't think a change in his delivery (which I don't even see), is why he has lost 7 MPH on his heater.

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Homer (and most human pitchers) are going to struggle transitioning to the big leagues. If we had a real soild pitching development staff maybe that transition goes a little more smoothly.

It's just one aspect of the overall "Homer" situation.

That was my only point.

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Originally Posted by reds44

Age 22 is way too early to start taking velocity off of your fastball to try to get it over. If that really is the case, then he (or the Reds) are stupid.

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I agree completely.

Bailey had previously been a high velocity guy who was wild. Now he's a low velocity guy who's still wild.

I'd much rather him go back to being high velocity and wild than pedestrian (as you accurately described him) and wild.

I'm hoping by the time he gets to age 23 he's back to high velocity.

after 5... 5-2 Cards...

Brandon should not bat cleanup against righties. Poor lineup construction strikes again.

Boggs out of there... very smart...

2 quick outs...

Lincoln has thrown 17 strikes and 3 balls...

1-2-3 inning for Lincoln again... 7 up, 7 down... mid 5 5-2 Cards...

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Originally Posted by jesusfan

Janish with the sac... Sure would be nice to have a hitter in the 2 hole... Here comes Griffey to make it 5-4...

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Giving away outs with the top of your order, while trailing by 3 runs in the 5th inning... have to love the self-defeatism that is Dustyball. Meanwhile, the major run scoring in this game has resulted from big blast(s) following *walks*. But, by all means, throw some more Outs away while trailing.

We get 4 innings of LaRussa manging his bullpen.

This one is going to go 4 hours.