Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold

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Originally Posted by Sea Ray

Let's accept that and move on

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No thanks

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Originally Posted by LeatherPants

This is one of the worst non-criminal PR days a team has ever done to themselves. It's amazing.

And it's all self inflicted, which is the amazing thing.

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They're not good at PR. I agree with you

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Originally Posted by RedTeamGo!

This is legitimately insane. Dude looks like used car salesman from the Bronx named Tony Dollars.

This is like something out of a bit from prime Simpsons

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He reminds me of a character out of a Cassavettes flick or something.

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Originally Posted by RedTeamGo!

No thanks

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You wanna just do this? :bang:

The local media better start asking really tough questions. They are weakened. This the equivalent of a bully hassling you and then you punch him in the face and he gets up and between tears says "That didn't hurt at all, hit me again! I ain't goin nowhere!" and then you go to hit them again and they run away.

Time to ramp up the pressure somehow.

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Originally Posted by RedTeamGo!

The local media better start asking really tough questions. They are weakened. This the equivalent of a bully hassling you and then you punch him in the face and he gets up and between tears says "That didn't hurt at all, hit me again! I ain't goin nowhere!" and then you go to hit them again and they run away.

Time to ramp up the pressure somehow.

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The Athletic is the only hope for this.

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Originally Posted by RedTeamGo!

The local media better start asking really tough questions. They are weakened. This the equivalent of a bully hassling you and then you punch him in the face and he gets up and between tears says "That didn't hurt at all, hit me again! I ain't goin nowhere!" and then you go to hit them again and they run away.

Time to ramp up the pressure somehow.

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You hate on them and they go home to their mansions in Indian Hill "to suffer". They're not weakened. You can't touch 'em. They don't care

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Originally Posted by Sea Ray

You hate on them and they go home to their mansions in Indian Hill "to suffer". They're not weakened. You can't touch 'em. They don't care

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They're embarrassed because not everyone recognizes their "birthright" and aren't a bunch of glad handing yes men. The emperor has no clothes and people are starting to call them on it and they have no answer, that's why the ownership has gone so far off the rails and are self-destructing.

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Originally Posted by Sea Ray

You hate on them and they go home to their mansions in Indian Hill "to suffer". They're not weakened. You can't touch 'em. They don't care

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If that's the case, they certainly don't need your defense.

Imagine defending these knuckleheads today.

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Originally Posted by Rdirtypirates

I am a huge Reds fan and i use to be right there defending them. There is no since has said in five different ways he could careless what we think. Think about the madness of you defending a team who hasn't won a playoff series in 25 years with such furor thinking you are the only one in the right. Regardless what you say they are a **** organization and they have been for a long time now. There is no debating that

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I’ve called them incompetent countless times in this thread. I think people are taking the fact that I think they spend enough money to make a winner so long as they use it competently as some sort of reason for me to be cool with them putting a bad to mediocre product on the field most years or as me defending them. This past offseason is really the first one where I think they made the hard calls they needed to make in order to create a winner. Prior to that I think they were mostly pissing in the wind or throwing money at a wall in FA since 2013. If they would have just fire sold this past off-season, I’d be livid. I really think they finally decided cut the sentimentality to make the tough calls on players and create a pipeline of young talent. It’s pretty much the last sliver of goodwill I have left.

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Originally Posted by Sea Ray

You hate on them and they go home to their mansions in Indian Hill "to suffer". They're not weakened. You can't touch 'em. They don't care

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If they don’t care this scumbag wouldn’t be throwing a tantrum on the radio and tv

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Originally Posted by LeatherPants

Imagine defending these knuckleheads today.

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it is certainly a choice one could make I guess

This is what narcissist energy looks like in its purest form.

I'm not sure if he's still with Redleg Nation or not, but Jason Linden just tweeted this:


Jason Linden (@JasonLinden) · Twitter

The current Reds payroll is almost exactly covered just by what they get from revenue sharing. In case you were wondering what “profitable” meant to Phil.

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Originally Posted by LeatherPants

I'm not sure if he's still with Redleg Nation or not, but Jason Linden just tweeted this:


Jason Linden (@JasonLinden) · Twitter

The current Reds payroll is almost exactly covered just by what they get from revenue sharing. In case you were wondering what “profitable” meant to Phil.

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I would absolutely LOVE to audit these books.

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Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds

Holy **** lol!!!! What are they doing?????

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It sounds like he thinks they built a winner and fans should come cheer for them.

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Originally Posted by Old school 1983

It sounds like he thinks they built a winner and fans should come cheer for them.

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Lol what

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Originally Posted by Old school 1983

It sounds like he thinks they built a winner and fans should come cheer for them.

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uh huh, sure, that's what they are saying.

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Originally Posted by RedTeamGo!

...those cities and the surrounding areas are wayyyyyyyyyy nicer than the Cinci area.

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You just admitted a few posts before this one that you've never lived in the Cincinnati area. WTF? You live in Cleveland and somehow know that Charlotte and Raleigh are wayyyyyyy nicer than Cinci?

I mean... is it that unbelievable that dude has spent time in Charlotte and Raleigh? We aren't talking about Paris or Munich here.

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Originally Posted by Slyder

They're embarrassed because not everyone recognizes their "birthright" and aren't a bunch of glad handing yes men. The emperor has no clothes and people are starting to call them on it and they have no answer, that's why the ownership has gone so far off the rails and are self-destructing.

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I don't know that they're embarrassed. I don't think they care. I also don't see them doing anything differently in response to this "pressure".

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Originally Posted by RedTeamGo!

If they don’t care this scumbag wouldn’t be throwing a tantrum on the radio and tv

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He was clearly a little rattled by it.

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Originally Posted by WildcatFan

If that's the case, they certainly don't need your defense.

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I'm not defending them. I think they're doing a very poor job running this team. I see a lot of nepotism. I'm also stating the reality that they're not going anywhere. They're not selling

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Originally Posted by LeatherPants

Imagine defending these knuckleheads today.

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I guess we disagree on defending them. What's your example of me or anyone here defending them?

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Originally Posted by OesterPoster

You just admitted a few posts before this one that you've never lived in the Cincinnati area. WTF? You live in Cleveland and somehow know that Charlotte and Raleigh are wayyyyyyy nicer than Cinci?

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I’ve lived in Charlotte. Visited Cinci and Raleigh quite a few times. Went to U of Dayton as well. Charlotte is a lot nicer. So is Raleigh.

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Originally Posted by Old school 1983

It sounds like he thinks they built a winner and fans should come cheer for them.

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If your captors are threatening you harm, start a new thread about Reds Legend Jeff Keppinger and we will send help

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Originally Posted by bm1475

I mean... is it that unbelievable that dude has spent time in Charlotte and Raleigh? We aren't talking about Paris or Munich here.

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Lol, I’ve also been to Munich and Paris. Also nicer than Cinci

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Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds

Also glossed over in that interview is Castellini saying the plan for now on is to “stick to developing our own guys” or ruling out on spending on free agents ever again. Which was already clear to everyone I think, except old school.


There was something also ominous sounding about even that as he said something like developing our own guys, and keeping them around “for as long as their affordable.” Count me out of that too. If they’re gonna do some incompetent version of the """"Rays model"""" and trade guys like Greene or India or whoever as soon as they hit arbitration or shortly after, I’m not interested in that either lol

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Yep. "Try our best to develop homegrown players, then dump them when they get expensive" is not a legitimate plan.
Winker, Suarez and Gray used to be considered "the core" (among other players).
Since Walt left, there has not really been a core, other than Votto.

I lived in Charlotte, Cincinnati and Chapel Hill. Charlotte is the best of the three major cities. I loved Chapel Hill, but I thought Raleigh was just fine. I wouldn't necessarily rank Raleigh ahead of Cincinnati.

Well, other than the fact that it was 30 minutes from Chapel Hill and 2 hours from the ocean, and Cincinnati is obviously neither of those.

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Originally Posted by RedTeamGo!

Lol, I’ve also been to Munich and Paris. Also nicer than Cinci

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Originally Posted by RedTeamGo!

I’ve lived in Charlotte. Visited Cinci and Raleigh quite a few times. Went to U of Dayton as well. Charlotte is a lot nicer. So is Raleigh.

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I could see that like 10 years ago, but Cincinnati is pretty legit now. As a city, I’d take us over most other mid sized cities in the midwest/south.

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Originally Posted by Old school 1983

It sounds like he thinks they built a winner and fans should come cheer for them.

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I don’t think even he believes that lol

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Originally Posted by HammerTime

He was clearly a little rattled by it.

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You know, there’s actually a reasonable point under it all: Grow your own, be ready to say goodbye to them before you really want to, go out and win with an exciting young core, look at what happened in Atlanta.

It’s the saltiness that ruins that message. They should know they haven’t earned the benefit of the doubt. Every answer should be about “The fans have a right to expect big things. We haven’t earned it. We’re going to go out and do that. Watch us do that.”

This guy literally stood on the actual field on opening day and said “what’re you gonna do, stop being a Reds fan?”


Yeah buddy I’m way ahead of you!!!!!

What are the chances that he comes on air during the game to "clarify"?

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Originally Posted by NebraskaRed

What are the chances that he comes on air during the game to "clarify"?

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Oh god please yes

Me thinks they don't know the difference between being a Reds fan and a Castellini fan. I've never seen anyone wearing that name on the back of a jersey.

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Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds

Oh god please yes

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I hope he says "I made a comment earlier tonight that I guess went out over the air that I am deeply ashamed of. If I have hurt anyone out there, I can't tell you how much I say from the bottom of my heart I'm so very, very sorry. I pride myself and think of myself as a man of faith - as there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos that will be a home run."

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Originally Posted by BCubb2003

You know, there’s actually a reasonable point under it all: Grow your own, be ready to say goodbye to them before you really want to, go out and win with an exciting young core, look at what happened in Atlanta.

It’s the saltiness that ruins that message. They should know they haven’t earned the benefit of the doubt. Every answer should be about “The fans have a right to expect big things. We haven’t earned it. We’re going to go out and do that. Watch us do that.”

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It's a hard message to sell that to the fans after they just sat through 4-5 years of tanking, when the fans were promised the tanking would set up the Reds to be competitive again.
The rebuild after Cueto and Leake left was a disaster. Sure, we got a few good young players out of it, and some guys still on the farm.
Yet, the Reds had to go on a big free agent spending spree to just be able to field a team a few games over 500.
Then they promptly burnt it down.
They owed it to the fans to at least try to compete this year. Or at least field the best team that you can.
But instead, they got greedy and went to the "boo hoo, we are a small market team, nothing we can do" sob story.
And on top of that Krall is completely incompetent.
I mean seriously, does anyone think the 2023 or 2024 Reds are going to be better than the 2022 Reds?
Most people are just assuming that Castillo and Mahle will be dealt relatively soon (within 1-2 years)... I mean, the cheap skate Reds can't afford to keep good pitching around.
The Reds are on a downward spiral, have an imcompetent GM and ownership that doesn't care about winning.
Nothing to be optimistic about. Maybe if Krall is fired, there will be some new hope, but that's about the only hope there is.
Castalleni Jr is probably going to own the team when his dad dies, and I am not sure I am going to outlive CAstallani Jr.